Cochrane is a madlad

He ALSO basically led the tiny navy of Chile against the Spanish in Chile and Peru, then did the same with Brazil's then small navy against the Portuguese achieving the independence of these 3 nations. Let this sink in. And this lad sums it all into ONE bullet point.

@listenlearnlaughwithmichae7154

3 жыл бұрын

I shall post a slightly different talk about his positions in 5 navies.

The man was fearless!

@ivaneduardoarancibiaarias3258

27 күн бұрын

Tenía miedo y lo configuraba favor able 😢 dejemos lo está a y ....... mestizos chilenos seguidores de J.M. Carrera fueron tripulación del capitán Cochrane dueño y señor de la explosión de todo el pasifico Americanos de tierra del fuego asta Alaska solo lo puedo Aser con la flota del l misticismo del mestizaje que se le ofreció y el propio Capitán Cochrane seleccionó

Thanks to Cochrane, Mexicans from Acapulco still have a dance called "La Chilena", because good auld Thomas took the Chilean Fleet up to California. Due to his work and influence, the Chilean Navy is still shaped on the Royal navy.

This guy is a British Legend. Right up there with Nelson and Duke of Wellington.

@listenlearnlaughwithmichae7154

3 жыл бұрын

I, of course, believe that too!

@maxsimilion8193

3 жыл бұрын

No he isnt. He was whitewashed from conventional history taught in schools across the UK. We got to hear about Nelson and Hardy but not Cochrane. The English write the history for the whole of the UK and its bent towards English history at the expense of the history of the other 3 member Countries.

@brucemacallan6831

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxsimilion8193 Hear, hear, - He was, and considered himself a Scot, - NOT a Brit.

the most action packed and entretaining battles were in his time in the chilean navy. should have talked about that.

Excellent presentation!

@listenlearnlaughwithmichae7154

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you kindly!

power point presentation in Mr. Adams Military History class

The flag Cochrane used against El Gamo was US, not Danish. He used a Danish flag against another frigate, along with a flag which stated that the ship had the plague on board. this meant that no enemy would board the ship.

@listenlearnlaughwithmichae7154

3 жыл бұрын

You are correct, of course. I try not to use notes in order to provide a. more conversational approach. occasionally this results in my mixing up data. His use of subterfuge was extensive and intelligent.

24:41 "We passed Cartagena yesterday..." The Cartagena in the fly-bill is obviously the one in Colombia, not the one in Spain.

If "Thomas" was alive today, rather than calling him 'Sir, ' would you not call him 'Lord Cochrane' or 'your Lordship?'

@listenlearnlaughwithmichae7154

3 жыл бұрын

"My Lord" on first meeting him, "Sir" thereafter. A chance would be great!

@AussieMaleTuber

3 жыл бұрын

@@listenlearnlaughwithmichae7154 Yes! Wouldn't it be great to have the opportunity!

cochrane was descended from a line of viking settlers, who arrived sometime in the 9th century and settled the area around Ananndale, in southern Scotland, the clans origins are shrouded, but they became border reivers, renowned for hit and run tactics over the border into england, robbing cattle and holding blood ransoms, once empire began, the cochranes were also noted fighters and commanders, and the clan gained the reputation as front line specialists, even today "The Fighting Cochranes" are well known and remembered, and perhaps the most famous of the empires fighting clans.

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6:19 However Royal Navy Officers had to under go more Exams and leadership training then their Army counter parts at the time. Its more so the case to go up though the ranks in the Royal Navy, it more so based on merit then connections like in the Army. Captains Cook and Bligh began his Naval career as an Able - Seaman, Although the latter was only at that rank for a year before becoming a midshipman.

@listenlearnlaughwithmichae7154

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly and he did not have the money necessary to advance in the army.

All the heros based on Cochrane are English not Scots. Stolen glory.

Sorry I'm not buying your interpretation as to the character of Lord Cochrane Earl of Dundonald. He was born and raised a gentleman (and as you stated from a wealthy background) not some raised from the ranks rogue grubbing for money. Lord Cochrane spent much of his early life in Culross, Fife, where his family had an estate. He is also celebrated there with a statue to the great man. Do not believe he was a fraudster, he was either set up by "French intelligence" (who were frustrated at being unable to capture or kill him) or his enemy's at home. Don't believe he was paranoid as that suggests that he only thought that their were plot's against when in fact their were. Like anyone I believe he expected to get whatever was agreed to, but I think he was more interested in getting his loyal crew's due's. The fact that he was totally exonerated later in life should suggest to you that he was unjustly condemned. It should also be noted that Lord Cochrane spent huge amounts of his personal wealth improving the British Navy and research, which I believe proves this gentleman's integrity beyond question.

@listenlearnlaughwithmichae7154

11 ай бұрын

I would not for one moment characterise Lord Cochrane as a "raised from the ranks rogue grubbing for money" and it is unfair of you to attribute that quote to me, if you have watched my presentation. He is, in my view, as much national hero as Nelson, but he was neither a fleet commander nor an Establishment favourite. His achievements as an inventor are covered in my talk, as are the facts of the fraud charges against him. If you read "Napoleon is Dead" by Richard Dale you will see why I pose the question (and only the question) in my talk. Dale ends his book by with this final comment:- "... while this book has attempted tp put the record straight regarding a moment of recklessness in February 1814, he will always be remembered as a fearsome commander and liberator of nations." I have the same opinion - he was a great man and a magnificent sailor.

@coco-ry8jg

11 ай бұрын

@@listenlearnlaughwithmichae7154 He was the nephew of Admiral Sir Alexander Cochrane (not captain). While I am sure Mr Dale's book is most informative I am not at all confident of his conclusion's. It is difficult not to attribute modern day motivation to a 19th century gentleman that would die for honour, and who's devotion to duty was undeniable. Consider that this is a man that on being elected to the House of Commons as an MP in 1806 used it as a platform to attack the government's conduct of the war against France, and the corruption in the Royal Navy. His uncle Andrew Cochrane-Johnstone was said to have used him as a pawn in the Great Stock Exchange Fraud of 1814, and he was convicted after what is known to be a less-than-fair trial. As he was given a Royal pardon and all honour's reinstated I would suggest you drop the fraudster question, it is completely out of character.

@listenlearnlaughwithmichae7154

11 ай бұрын

@@coco-ry8jg If you have not read all the material, including Cochrane’s autobiography, how can you make such black/white comments. Thomas’ uncle was a Captain when he added his three year old nephew to his muster sheet. He rose to Admiral many years later. And, I am not asking anyone to ‘buy’ my interpretation. All I hope is that extraordinary people, like Cochrane, will be better known. I think we must agree to differ.

@coco-ry8jg

11 ай бұрын

@@listenlearnlaughwithmichae7154 Perhaps I felt mislead by the title of your talk "The Seawolf - Lord Cochrane, admiral of four navies" Expecting to hear more of his exploits rather than other aspects of his life. You could have mentioned any number of things such as while just in command of HMS Pallas when he is said to have made around £40,000 (over £1 million today) in captured-shipping prize money. Nothing I have said here is assumed, he was court martialled for duelling over a matter of honour in Malta, and while his father tried to profit from his inventions, Lord Cochrane applied his creativity to saving his men's lives and improving conditions and the safety of his miners. He also stopped the use of women and children in his mine workings (a common practice at that time as they were cheap labour) In 1876, his grandson received a payment of £40,000 from the British government (equivalent to £4,000,000 in 2021), based on the recommendations of a Parliamentary select committee, in compensation for Cochrane's conviction. The committee had concluded that his conviction was unjust. He died penniless but his grave in the central part of the nave of Westminster Abbey sums his career up in a few choice words. The inscription, written by Sir Lyon Playfair, reads: HERE RESTS IN HIS 85th YEAR THOMAS COCHRANE TENTH EARL OF DUNDONALD BARON COCHRANE OF DUNDONALD OF PAISLEY AND OF OCHILTREE IN THE PEERAGE OF SCOTLAND MARQUESS OF MARANHAM IN THE EMPIRE OF BRAZIL G.C.B. AND ADMIRAL OF THE FLEET WHO BY THE CONFIDENCE WHICH HIS GENIUS HIS SCIENCE AND EXTRAORDINARY DARING INSPIRED, BY HIS HEROIC EXERTIONS IN THE CAUSE OF FREEDOM AND HIS SPLENDID SERVICES ALIKE TO HIS OWN COUNTRY GREECE BRAZIL CHILI AND PERU ACHIEVED A NAME ILLUSTRIOUS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD FOR COURAGE PATRIOTISM AND CHIVALRY. BORN DEC 14th 1775. DIED OCT. 31st 1860

@bryces9951

23 күн бұрын

​@@coco-ry8jgall that is true and he was as amazing as any man has ever been but you may as well mention he kinda fucked greece over and charged them a exorbitant fee upfront, which i kinda get because of past experiences but still its kinda mercenaryish behavior. There was also the whole thing where he and his peer basically got a bunch of greeks killed because they couldn't get along and lead effectively. It takes nothing away from his legacy though but its worth mentioning just so we all know he was a real man with flaws and not some saint with nothing but the purest of intentions.

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Excellent presentation!

@listenlearnlaughwithmichae7154

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!