Actually it is known why he left Boston. Allan Eagleson never informed him that Boston offered him an ownership stake in the Boston Bruins

@Joeblow12349

22 күн бұрын

Did you actually watch the whole thing?

@andygrenn680

17 күн бұрын

@@Joeblow12349 That’s what went down in Boston. On top of that Orr retired owing more than he had earned…that’s right broke! Physically and financially…

While there may have been some serious questions as to how negotiations between the Bruins and Eagleson were handled, the bottom line is that Orr retired because his onee could not handle the rigors of playing pro hockey. He loved the game way too much to walk away at 30 unless he was physically unable to play. As for Fischler, disregard anything he says or writes. Check out his first Hockey Top 100 list, where he ranks Orr number 13 all-time, plus some of his rankings involving Rangers players. Art Coulter ahead of Guy Lafleur?

@MarvinThiessen

22 күн бұрын

Fischler is a self-appointed hockey "expert", doesn't know sh*t from shinola.

@johnwillimott8122

22 күн бұрын

13th??? Report to drug testing…

@robertstanford1778

18 күн бұрын

Your right on Stan Fischler what he knows about hockey couldn't fill an 8 ounce cup. Orr is my number 1 all time and I am a 67 year old life long Leaf fan.

@reggiecleveland

17 күн бұрын

I once sent him a letter disagreeing with something he wrote about a local hockey player. He responded with a two page letter full of insults and unhinged claims about his greatness. I mean who goes off on anonymous fan in a letter? Had he stayed around until twitter he would have gotten himself fired.

@todd4317

15 күн бұрын

Perhaps Fischler has been trolling us all these years, just to get under our collective skins so that we respond the way we do. Or perhaps I'm giving him too much credit. Go with the latter.

Bobby Orr gave me his autograph in London Ontario at the London Gardens during their pre season, Thanks again Mr Orr, for a kid that was a wowza moment ☘️

Well if he got the 6 million of the guaranteed contract, when he was almost finished physically, a good payday, but you dont talk about his infamous crooked agent, Alan Eagleson, that is as big a story as Bobby Orr. Fischler was wrong about Bobby Orr, the greatest defenceman ever. He changed the game on a par with Wayne Gretzky, they would be one two on the list if he had played as many games and maybe even Orr on top.

@dicksonfranssen

17 күн бұрын

When we moved I mentioned at a family dinner the local prison is where that a-hole Eagleson did his time. My sister went nuts waving her arms around, apparently my wiener brother in law is buddies with him.

Gretzky himself has said, Orr changed the game more than any player ever did.

Stan Fischler is wrong. 1967-1967 was not a weak period for the NHL. It was a strong period. The original 6 era had mediocre players, as well. I should know - I was there. In fact, some of the original 6 players would not have made some NHL teams in the 1967-1977 era. I'll stand by that. Some couldn't skate, stick handle or shoot as well as the 67-77 players. Again, I was there.

@tomwilliams3783

18 күн бұрын

The league was definitely watered down when it doubled in size with expansion....it took 4 years before an expansion team won a single playoff game against the original six (North Stars vs Canadiens in April 1971).

@republica7337

17 күн бұрын

I completely agree. Some of those players in the original 6 era couldn't skate backwards. Lateral movement, not all. Nostalgia is one thing, facts are another.

@mike196212

13 күн бұрын

I agree.

@ticats2009

8 күн бұрын

​@@republica7337get lost

@republica7337

7 күн бұрын

@@ticats2009 did you ever hear Jacques Plante explain why he wondered outside his crease. One guy couldn't skate backwards. One guy couldn't move to one side. A lot has been said about some of those pros back in the day. This isn't a revelation. Go Ticats.

Bobby Orr was my first NHL hero

Having to retire at 30, with his exceptional skill: what a travesty to hockey. Still on the hockey Mt Rushmore.

@canadianroot

3 күн бұрын

Too bad this horribly edited video barely included any decent clips of that exceptional skill.

@fredbmurphy

3 күн бұрын

@canadianroot you know what's even worse? As a Canadian, I have come to the realization that hockey now is an American sport where Canadians go to play. I used to think Vancouver could never win a Cup; but now it's spread to the whole country. McDavid will have to leave Edmonton for an American franchise if he wants a ring. Bedard will win a Stanley Cup with Chicago before Edmonton even makes the finals again. Petterson probably doesn't care about a Stanley Cup since he can milk the Canucks for a mansion (not in Vancouver of course, that would require a billionaire). I miss the days of Gretzky and Lemieux. I miss watching my idol, and infinitely more important: Mario's idol: Guy Lafleur and the Habs capturing Cup after Cup.

@canadianroot

2 күн бұрын

@@fredbmurphy Same with me. I'm probably older by a bit, but I remember watching the Leafs win the cup in 67. I was just 7 years old, but the sport was probably 95% Canadian at the time. And yeah, it seems like Gary has it in for the Canadian teams, for some reason. The glory days are gone, my friend.

The GOAT.

Bobby Orr and Bobby Clark, two NHL players I remember and admire most from my teen years.

@parkerbohnn

6 күн бұрын

and the other Bobby, Bobby Hull.

Orr would dominate in any era

@davidbroughall3782

18 күн бұрын

Debatable. Today's average NHL player is bigger, stronger, and faster than anyone Orr ever played against. As skilled as he was, that skill was relative to that of the men he was playing against.

@kevingoodwin5177

13 күн бұрын

@@davidbroughall3782 If he were young today he would also have the advantages of better training techniques and his knee surgeries would have been less invasive... a scope instead of a knife. Orr also had to fight to protect himself... as did other stars in the old days such as Gordie Howe, Rocket Richard and Bobby Hull. Players were tough as nails in the late Sixties early Seventies.

@johnegan5

11 күн бұрын

​@@davidbroughall3782Serge Savard, Bobby Clarke, Gordie Howe, Jean Beliveau, Guy Lafleur, Larry Robinson, Bobby Hull, Scotty Bowman etc etc all beg to differ🎉

Bobby Orr was more than a Hockey player. Orr was a revolutionizing concept which changed the position of defense 4ever. NHL had never seen a player with this skill up until then. The great rushing defense men that have played after Orr are from his Hockey DNA. On a subtle note Orr skated his NHL career barefoot with no sock in his skates. Orr said the feel made him grip the ice better…Who is to argue…#4Forever.

@jz5005

17 күн бұрын

I agree except I can’t think of any such D worth mentioning in the same sentence as Orr, other than Coffey.

@andygrenn680

17 күн бұрын

@@jz5005 Coffey earns honourable mention compared to Number 4. Coffey is the closest descendant to Bobby Orr. In another Hockey galaxy Coffey and Orr together. Well…the game would need two pucks!

@drumagus2258

5 күн бұрын

yeah plus he invented diving.

@andygrenn680

5 күн бұрын

@@drumagus2258 please…Go find me a defender who has won two regular season scoring titles. You’ll get tired of looking to be sure. Orr’s feat may never happen again..

The winning goal you showed was VS the Blues.

I Beleive that the Skates they use today . Mainly the Blades are less likely to injure your Knees than the Older Blades . If Skates were like they are now . Orr would have played 20 yrs + Easy . I Would still Say . Doug Harvey and Bobby Orr are the 2 Best in my Lifetime . The rest are 3s and 4s .

@dicksonfranssen

17 күн бұрын

Not just skates. I had that old time knee surgery, a scar from my ankle almost to my hip. Now they mostly just scope you and it's straight to rehab. 30 years later I had a serious brain aneurysm, it was done with a scope and I was home the next morning.

How can anybody notice anything about the guy , He’s been outta the NHL for 50 years !!

Awesome ambassador for hockey I seen him in St.Lawrence Newfoundland in the 80s

"Solid gold puck" ✨️ nice to have 1 of these ...lock it up, in Canada 🇨🇦 😅

Orr #1 all time, slightly ahead of Gretzky & Lemieux, then Howe. And this from a diehard, lifelong, Montreal Canadiens fan

@marklittle8805

17 күн бұрын

Bobby was the greatest as far as Red Fisher was concerned, and I think Dick Irvin said similar. Those guys saw Rocket and Believau in their prime so that is high praise

@jz5005

17 күн бұрын

Agree on the first three. I can’t think of anyone else in their stratosphere. Howe was great, but not 50% better than anyone else on the ice of their era. He had longevity though.

@oasisbeyond

16 күн бұрын

Naw, Gretzky is the great one, changed hockey forever.

@appletile2887

16 күн бұрын

@@oasisbeyond Gretzky changed nothing. His career took place on a team made up of HOFers. Most of #99's points came from assists feeding a goal scoring machine. The Oilers are the only team to ever score 400 goals or more in a season. They did that 5 times. Orr won 2 scoring championship trophies as a defenseman. Orr won the Norris trophy a record number of consecutive times. How many Norris trophies did Gretzky win......NONE. Lemieux & Bossy were better goal scorers than Gretzky Orr has a better +/- rating than Gretzky playing half of the games Wayne played. Only someone who never saw Orr play would make your statement. Gretzky never won another Stanley Cup after leaving Edmonton but Messier won 2 Cups without Gretzky.

@appletile2887

16 күн бұрын

@@marklittle8805 Beliveau also stated that Orr was the best he ever saw

I didn't hear anything that came close to a "scary truth" I didn't even hear anything new. I wonder what Orr's career would have looked like if he had available to him the surgical skills of today along with updated knowledge and tech?

The book '67 made me aware that Orr could have EASILY ended up with the Leafs. Just one more historic blunder by the Leafs. They could have had Brad Park too and possibly Ken Dryden.

I've read a few of Fischler's books and feel they do contain a certain amount of sentiment getting in the way of facts. He was a fan too. We all have our biases.

If Stan Fischler was right about Orr there would have been a few more players at the same time that were just as good - but there wasn't. To me he was and still is the best to have ever played hockey. Can any hockey fan name another player who skated better than Orr?

Lol When he was 13 he signed a jr. Contract with the Bruins

Don Cherry mentioned that the Blackhawks overplayed Orr. He said he wouldn't have had him out on the ice as much. PK, PP, etc. He would have cut down Orr's ice time. Not sure if that would have also continued in the playoffs.

@appletile2887

16 күн бұрын

It was Orr's skating style that did him in. He was a lighting fast skater and his blades bit into the ice heavy those first 3 steps. On gimpy knees you can't do that without more damage and pain. Too many surgeries & too much meniscus gone leaving bone-on-bone...... I hope they take some of Orr's DNA and clone him with the tech they have today. Likewise, Lemieux, Bossy, etc. Now those players would make a league so elite

One of the best players on the Boston Team? He was the hands down top player in the NHL Have you seen him play?

Stan Fischler is not very knowledgeable about hockey. He has written many books about the sport but he was never a fan of the Boston Bruins. Bobby Orrs knees gave out after many surgeries. Also Eagleson ripped Orr and other NHL players off fact did not have anything to do with Bobby Orr retiring from the game.

Hope that firend got $$$ for buying him skates at 4 lol. You need more commercials my dude to make this video almost unwatchable.

How many players of the original 6 era couldnt skate backwards? Did expansion really water down the skill level? Perhaps, but dont make it sound like pre expansion era was the gold standard of hockey excellence.

@appletile2887

16 күн бұрын

The post 1967 NHL era had talent sitting in the AHL that easily could make an NHL team but there were few spots open. When expansion happened there was a small uptick in goal scoring, but nothing like the uptick that happened post 1979 when a deluge of defensemen & goaltenders retired after long careers in the NHL. Orr played in a violent league where anything went to stop goal scoring. When Gretzky came in he played against really green defensemen & goaltenders which bears out in # of goals scored by both teams during the inflation 1980's,

@republica7337

15 күн бұрын

@@appletile2887 thanks for sharing. Something to think about.

Everyone has an opinion on who is the greatest of all time. There have been greats throughout the history of the game and there always will be. Only a few achieve the status of elite. In that I see them as equal. Orr, Gretzky, Lemieux, and Howe are members of that club. Many others can be considered on the cusp of belonging to this group. More will follow.

@salianni16

12 күн бұрын

The only others that I would put in that exclusive elite group for now with Orr, Gretzky, Lemieux, and Howe would be The Rocket and Bobby Hull. They dominated the game in their era and were so much better than everyone else that they were held to a higher standard and are still seen that way today.

@user-we2yt5on9b

12 күн бұрын

@@salianni16 I agree with you about Bobby Hull. When you factor in his WHA years he was truly an elite. I always found Richard to be an enigma. A truly great player, but he only captured the Hart trophy once and never won the Art Ross; he only led the Canadiens in scoring 5 times. No question he was the face and the heart of the franchise his entire career. I believe Crosby is on the cusp and when he retires could be considered for this group. McDavid; 12 years from now maybe.

@salianni16

12 күн бұрын

@@user-we2yt5on9b If you want to include Crosby, that's fine, but you would also need to have Ovechkin right there alongside him.

@user-we2yt5on9b

11 күн бұрын

@@salianni16 not sure yet about Crosby yet, but you are right about the player who will be the all-time goal scoring leader.

Nobody BETTER!

Only player I ever saw the top Russians in AWE of!!

To me and all my childhood friends, Orr was a hockey hero, standing up against the hated Canadiens. But you don't stay a child forever, and as you grow up, you realize that your heroes are human beings that can make some really bad choices. It was only quite recently that I was disappointed to learn that Orr was a great supporter of Donald Trump. I can't tell you how dismayed I was to hear that. I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised, with Orr being such great pals with that blowhard Don Cherry.

@dicksonfranssen

17 күн бұрын

That was absolutely painful. Orr & his wife took out a full page ad in the local paper urging people to vote for carrot-head. TSN called it "Old white man privilege". Also Janet's gambling ring the NHL doesn't seem to recall.

@marklittle8805

17 күн бұрын

Regardless of his politics doesn't change who he was as a hockey player. As a Canadian, I can tell you Biden and Trump are idiots. I however don't hold ones political beliefs to who they are ..grow up

@davidbroughall3782

17 күн бұрын

@@marklittle8805 I'm Canadian too, but clearly paying more attention than you. You seem to think Biden and Trump are the same. They're the same like poached chicken and fried dog s*** are the same. And as for growing up, I'd venture to say that there isn't anyone alive who calls himself a sports fan, you included, that hasn't had a hero they later became disappointed in, for whatever reason, be it politics or worse. Would tell fans disappointed in the fact that OJ Simpson was a murderer to grow up?

@republica7337

17 күн бұрын

​@@dicksonfranssenJanet's gambling? Are you thinking of Janet Gretzky?

@dicksonfranssen

16 күн бұрын

@marklittle8805 Did I say or imply in any way his political beliefs should put an asterisk beside his name? *What you do in life DOES define who you are* This isn't a one time thing like getting drunk & dancing on the table. People still adore Ray Rice who continually beat his fiancée, Michael Vick who ran a dog fighting ring and of course Orenthal who sawed his wife's head off. It's when you support a racist politician who openly declares he'll be a dictator but "just for one day" that your character comes into question. Aside from Orr the list includes Jack Nicklaus, Tom Brady, Bobby Knight, NASCAR's France family, Paul O’Neill, Mike Ditka etc. *There's a common thread here, they're all old rich white guys out of touch with reality* I'm not the best judge of character and I've done some truly stupid things in life but have never shot my mouth off because of who I used to be. I'm 67, should I still "grow up" or just keep denying reality?

Until Gretzky pulverised all records...

@rman52

18 күн бұрын

Can't compare a defenseman to a foward. Like comparing MJ to Jabar.

@marklittle8805

17 күн бұрын

He took advantage of a weaker offense happy league too. But Gretzky said Orr changed the game more than he did. Maybe this is Gretzky just being modest but Orr says Gretzky changed the game and then when asked who the greatest was they say Howe

@rman52

17 күн бұрын

@@marklittle8805 Tells a lot about their character. In reality you could argue Orr was the first great offense defenseman. Gretzky was the greatest offense foward. And Howe the greatest two way player.

@appletile2887

16 күн бұрын

@@rman52 If Lemieux was on that Oiler team from the start of his career with a bodyguard....you would be saying Gretzky who. Mario was bigger and had many more tools than Gretzky as a center iceman

@rman52

16 күн бұрын

@@appletile2887 If I had wheels on my ass I would be a bus. If Lindros didn't get concussed as often as McDavid makes highlight of the day, he could have been the goat. And I guess if Mario had 300 more goals and 1000 more assists he would at least be tied with the goat Gretzky. That being said, Mario was a phenomenal player and a class act.

2nd BEST BEHIND GORDIE HOWE. CHANGED THE POSITION OF DEFENSE MAN TO WHAT IT IS TODAY

@appletile2887

16 күн бұрын

I watched both Howe & Orr play during their prime and say Orr was better. He controlled the game like no other player has.

Best NHL defenceman LARRY ROBINSON. Check the plus minus stats. He's still number one 😊😊

Orr played in the days players would gain 30 pounds in the off season drinking beer and eating fast food....he would be just another average player by today's standards.

lost respect for Mr Orr when he came out of the closet and declared to be a Maga man supporting Chump

@jvcelt

13 күн бұрын

there are no words to describe u, mr andiman....

@andiman45

13 күн бұрын

@@jvcelt Try harder then..

@juryklymko703

6 күн бұрын

That says a lot more about you than Bobby Orr, just shows you're a hateful bigot. Must love the suffering going on in Ukraine and the middle east. God bless Bobby Orr and Donald Trump.

The scary truth about Orr nobody is noticing is that he supports trump...HERO TO ZERO!!!

@johnwillimott8122

10 күн бұрын

Never a Zero🤬

@JustBreath123

10 күн бұрын

@@johnwillimott8122 Yup #4 is a Zero

@juryklymko703

6 күн бұрын

Hero to zero? You must be talking about yourself..... as usual.

@JustBreath123

6 күн бұрын

@@juryklymko703 YES hero to zero....anyone with such little intelligence to support a moron like trump cannot be that bright

@bosox411

11 сағат бұрын

That still stings