Don't hate the player. Hate the game. It's interesting the trouble they went thru to make her the king's mistress

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

It is! The king really was the absolute monarch at that point though, so everyone had to find a way to do as he asked.

@harrietharlow9929

Жыл бұрын

Precisely. Born into that era, I might well have played the game the same way. There weren't exactly a ton of options for women.

@bloochoob

Жыл бұрын

What would be really awful, was if Henry VIII liked the look of you 🤯

@harrietharlow9929

Жыл бұрын

@@bloochoob That's just scary to think about.

@bloochoob

Жыл бұрын

@@harrietharlow9929 I live very close to the Tower of London, I walk past quite often and see the exact spots on the green where so many people (including three Queens) were murdered. Can’t imagine how people would go to watch, like a family day out 😳

I admire her,she did what she did and if a man would have been looked upon different.All in all she was a good kind generous person.Telling in the fact of the first thing she asked of the king,which was to pardon someone she didn't know from being guillotine as well for another person.Enjoyed this episode, thanks so much.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊 I agree, she had very limited options for rising to the top, and du Barry found a way to do it that was acceptable within her society.

@psychonauty2020

Жыл бұрын

Same. I love fvcking up. ♡♡♡

@editorblip9658

Жыл бұрын

Or she was used by men …

@honey-feeney9800

Жыл бұрын

@@editorblip9658 her beauty used men. I rather think that’s a smarter approach.

@patriciaarrington6429

10 ай бұрын

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Definitely not the most scandalous mistress of Versailles, in my opinion. That would be, as far as I've read and studied, and that is a great amount, Madame de Montespan, Louis XIV's longtime mistress and mother to several of his illegitimate children. She, upon being userped from her pedestal at the Palace by Louis, invoked the infamous " Affair of the Poisons", where she nearly poisoned the King and many others in the palace.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely - I have got Madame de Montespan on my list for another video! You're right, in that the question for my thumbnail is really 'no', although Jeanne was viewed by horror within the courtiers of Versailles for her past and low social status. To them, they would have 'yes!' from their very skewed way of seeing the world.

@Mftjan2000

Жыл бұрын

usurped.

She would have been an Instagram star in today’s world. Interesting life. Thank you - not heard of her before.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

You're right - I think she would have done well in today's world! Glad you enjoyed the video. 😊

Du barry is a fascinating story of a much more caring soul and determined individual than is depicted. Thank-u for this more realistic portrayal of her. It would be wonderful to see a movie about her much like the Marie Antoinette story.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed the video! 😊 She really does seem to come across as a sweet and caring person who had something of an interesting life when I researched what's known about her, but often gets sidelined as 'Louis XV's mistress' and nothing more. I think a full-length movie about her would be a great idea!

@psychonauty2020

Жыл бұрын

@@HistorysForgottenPeople you kno I think she was the only one who truly loved the king as a man toward the end of his time with her too

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

@@psychonauty2020 I got that feeling as well - being careful to look at evidence and not impose romantic feelings on it, of course. They were very close, and the fact she wanted to stay with him at the end when he was ill is another indicator. There's certainly no reason to believe she didn't love him, even if obviously that's not how their relationship began.

@rathertiredofthemess2841

Жыл бұрын

Lol! Gold-diggers are Gold-diggers. I’ll admit she is a survivor, but she was a gold-digger.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

@@rathertiredofthemess2841 Yes, you're right. Madame du Barry was indeed after wealth, and getting it from rich men was the easiest way for her. In her defence, however, it's very different to now when career options would have been open to her, and women in the past had to make different decisions to now.

I absolutely loved this story. What a remarkable woman.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

I think so, too! It makes you wonder what she might have made of herself in modern times, but certainly in the context of her day, she used what she had at her disposal.

This is the best documentary about Madame du Barry I’ve yet watched!

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Aww, thank you! 😊 I'm glad you enjoyed it.

How interesting! French history never ceases to amaze.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 😊 French history surrounding Versailles is especially always rather strange or surprising!

I adore her! Who could acuse her for her actions, even on terms of today's professional possibilities for women, who end up extremely often using their charms in order to take or maintain a job! Nothing has really changed throughout the centuries, just the ways of doing the same things...

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

You're right - but I think especially women throughout the centuries had to find ways to make something of themselves in whatever way they could, or they wouldn't make anything at all. More options were open to men (although, of course, it was still hard if you were a poor man!), but Jeanne was smart enough to recognise that she could use her looks to gain her fortune.

Zamor Born Sidi, on the Bengal side, the young Zamor, a child, was sold by his family to English slavers shortly after his birth in 1763. Arrived in France, it was bought and offered to the Countess of Barry. The King's Mistress was then in the firmament. She reigns over the heart of Louis XV who covers her with gifts, the most beautiful woman in France. Madame du Barry loves this kid. She keeps him close to her, feeds him, teaches him to read, write, and music. She also likes to disguise him even as she dresses him in oriental costumes overflowing with feathers and fans. Gifted with a great sense of humor, Zamor seduces Louis XV himself, even if he makes the 400 blows, not hesitating to tear off the wigs of the courtiers who pass within his reach. He followed his mistress in exile at the death of Louis XV. The French Revolution will upset their relations with both of them. As an adult, Zamor, who was passionate about Rousseau, whom his mistress made him read, is committed to new ideas. So much so that there is a break with the countess and that Zamor is expelled from Louveciennes. The Revolution is not racist. He is appointed Secretary of Surveillance of the District of Versailles. A few years later, he testified at the trial of his former mistress. Convinced by his friends that she did not love him and saw in him only a small dog, nothing more, he pours on her a torrent of hatred that will not be for nothing in the condemnation of the Countess of Barry. It was guillotined on December 8, 1793. Zamor lives on his ass and then gives classes to the children in his apartment near Place Maubert in Paris. Ruined because he hit the children too much and his school closed, Zamor died of cold and hunger on February 8, 1820 at the end of a life that had seen him travel the globe, the gardens of Versailles, the king's apartments, the revolutionary cobblestones before becoming for history "The Traitor of the Barry" even though he loved her so much.

I would say madam de Montespan is the more infamous and scandalous. Giving her involvement on the affair of the poisons and her children being legitimised making her an ancestor of many noble and royal houses.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Yes, she was DEFINITELY more infamous - if I cover France in that time period at a later date, she will definitely be in there.

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Amazing story of a young girl who was what she she lived and loved history played out thank you for sharing this ❤

Anybody watching this really would enjoy the movie " Cheri " with Michelle Pfeiffer as an absolutely exquisite Parisian courtesan in this time period. Oh my g the beautiful gowns and decor alone are worth watching it for. ❤ this.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

I've heard of that film, but never seen it! I didn't really know what it was about. I'm adding it to my 'to-be-watched' list.

@elaineanderson4966

Жыл бұрын

I believe " Cheri " was based on books so if you want to read up more about that time period I think you can find those also if you enjoy the movie. ❤

@psychonauty2020

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the suggestion!♡

@heliedecastanet1882

Жыл бұрын

"Chéri" takes place in the early XX° century. Madame du Barry lived at the end of the XVIII°.

@Sept1973

Жыл бұрын

Wrong time period

Louis sure got to plenty of fun!… Usually, when talking of his mistresses, we speak only of Madame de Pompadour, so it’s refreshing to hear of someone other than her (not that her (Madame de Pompadour) story isn’t interesting, ofc :) Have a nice weekend in the company of History, as I sure will!

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

It's true - Madame de Pompadour herself could get a whole video! I think in modern times she would probably have ended up as prime minister of France, she had a very good head for politics, but could only wield it through Louis XV. It's quite a surprising list, reading through his mistresses, actually! 😂 Thank you, I hope you have a lovely weekend too!

@elaineanderson4966

Жыл бұрын

Yes I agree I would love to see something on madame de pompadour also!

@Mftjan2000

Жыл бұрын

One good quality King Louis XV seemed to have...wasn't a "snob!" Both Pompadour and Du Barry were not of noble birth.

I think she'd been a someone better in her life if the 18th century society wouldn't have been so tough with women and ''lower status people'' back then; yes, she was hedonist indeed, but as you said, she had a polite heart

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

I agree. If there had been more opportunities available, who knows who du Barry might have become?

Thank you for watching! I apologise once more for my butchery of the lovely French language - I really can't say 'Choiseul' properly. 😂 What are your opinions of Madame du Barry? Was she merely making the best of what she had? And was she guilty of the charges against her during the Revolution?

@stormwatkins1204

Жыл бұрын

I really doubt she was guilty of her charges.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

@Storm Watkins Same here. I just don't think she would have taken the risk when her whole life was about surviving and protecting what she had.

@kellyharper367

Жыл бұрын

It's not like she could be a stenographer! Who knows if she was actually treasonous....sounds like she was trying to keep her remaining trinkets of prosperity safe.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

@Kelly Harper That was my sense of it, as well. More that she wanted to know those jewels were safe, and because of the awkward circumstances she found them in, I think du Barry was somewhat at the beck and call of those who had them in their position. I forget the name of the Englishman who was helping her, but I believe he actually WAS found to be a spy - I think he found a way to get information from du Barry, but I'm not convinced she was really certain of how she was being used. Just my opinion based on the evidence available, of course!

@psychonauty2020

Жыл бұрын

I love her. Your French is very sweet. You're doing a lovely thing here, ♡ thank you.

I didn't know she was killed that way wow.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

It does seem as though she was swept up in the blanket 'anyone wealthy who knew the royal family' round up of people that occurred during The Terror. We don't know if the charges against her were true or not, but they seem unlikely.

I adore Madame Du Barry; I even have a picture of her in my car! You have shown her life truly (and I have quite a few books on her). She was beautiful and kind; it's good to see her shown as she was. How I wish a "good" movie would be made about her (not the one from the 1930's or the new one from 2023)

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

She is definitely my favourite person of 18th century France, if I'm honest! And thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. 😊 I tried to have a lot of optimism about the film that just came out, but I suspected from the trailer it still wasn't going to really show Jeanne's life, sadly.

@LiliLycoris

8 ай бұрын

What do you think is unsatisfactory to your taste on the 2023 version? I just watched it and it's fairly good- not as good as sofia's marie movie but it opened my eyes to du barry's story. Just curious what u think abt it since I just discovered her story.

Most interesting. Yours is always the compassionate and balanced point of view. Many thanks.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 😊 I do try to see a 'good' side to the people I research, especially when there are so many unfairly negative narratives sometimes, such as in Madame du Barry's case.

This movie is going to be fire... We need it in the USA now!!! 😮😢

Absolutely fascinating. I have just watched Marie Antoinette on tv, which featured Madame du Barry, although I am not sure how accurate it was, so I was really interested in your video. Very well narrated, thank you.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'm pleased you enjoyed it! 😊 Someone else mentioned the BBC series, but I haven't watched it yet. I must take a look and see how du Barry is portrayed!

@myrtlesnow2397

Жыл бұрын

That was the worst portrayal of anything 18th century France ever.

@roro19527

Жыл бұрын

@@myrtlesnow2397 Oh dear! I thought that would be the case. I wish they would keep these historical dramas as factual as possible, we wold still enjoy them I am sure. I must say, I did enjoy watching this though.

@jacquesrenou2850

Жыл бұрын

I don't know think they portrayed her in a favorable or accurate manner.They portrayed her as dumb and conniving,cold and manipulative.I trust Nikki's hard work and her videos as an accurate portrayal of the subjects she covers and unbiased in her portrayal.She does Awsum work.⚜️

@myrtlesnow2397

Жыл бұрын

The BBC show was completely inaccurate lol. She would have never of been friends with Marie Antoinette, let alone in the private company of each other, KISSING nonetheless. They were not friends, nor had any relationship whatsoever. The whole show used basic information form wikipedia on the historical figures and changed everything else to suit their crappy tv plot designed to appeal to the uneducated. From watching this program, you can easily see a completely different human being from the one portrayed on the horrible BBC show.

Watching this, then realizing johnny depp as king louis in jeanna du barry! cant wait to watch it!!

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

I'm really curious about how that movie is going to turn out. I've seen a short trailer, and I know that seemed to mostly focus on her life at the palace - I hope I'm wrong, because the before and after of Jeanne's life at Versailles was so interesting as well!

She seemed really sweet and only did what she had to do to support herself and her mother in those times. 🕊️

@HistorysForgottenPeople

10 ай бұрын

It was so lovely researching her, because instead of finding this empty-headed harlot (which she is normally made out to be), I instead found Jeanne was a kind person full of life, who simply found a way to make a good life for herself and her family. Really, that's all anyone can try to do, and she did it at a time where there were few other options for women.

I just watched the excellent Maiwenn/Johnny Depp production of Jeanne DuBarry. Thanks for your factual biography. Both tell the same tale: a girl of rare beauty, intelligence, spirit and kindness who simply wanted a better life, and gave more than she ever could have taken. Shame on Zamor for his betrayal.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

8 ай бұрын

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊 To speak in Zamor's defence, I get the feeling he will have been pushed into what he did, with various people whispering in his ear. Sometimes, we can only guess at the motivations of people long gone, I suppose.

@altinaykor364

4 ай бұрын

universe has shown a lot mercy on Zamor after what he did, otherwise he would have been executed alongside with Robespierre and his minions

Very Interesting story of Madame du Barry and King Louis XV. In the point of view of her life it's common in the history of monarchies. The king tried to save her from contract a terrible disease a noble gesture from him. History of all countries have real stories like this...even today as to speak. Being born not knowing her upcoming today is considered quite normal....but not in those days when she lived. What as a scandal to others....is common practice among some elite groups. Very common indeed. This is the life of King Louis XV favorite mistress. Thank you

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊 And you're right in that had Jeanne lived today, she would probably have had a very different life.

@abrazalves

Жыл бұрын

@@HistorysForgottenPeople thank you very much for giving us the real story of this Jeanne du Barry.

Really enjoyed this video, what a fascinating woman. I would love to see a video about Cora Pearl sometime, there isn't much information about her.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 😊 And that's a great suggestion - I'll make a note for a future video. I read up on Cora Pearl a while ago (I get caught in tangents on the internet!) and she certainly had a very colourful life, but she was definitely a very determined woman who made her own path.

@Ghost_Makes_Noise

Жыл бұрын

@@HistorysForgottenPeople another favourite of mine is Mary Edwards Walker, M.D. very wesome, you should check her out!

The best post on Mme du Barry in English!

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you so much! I'm really glad you enjoyed the video. 😊

This is the first time I have found a documentary on this lady . She must have been very beautiful to get by just on her looks and she must have thought she had hit the jackpot by bagging the top man . I think it’s a shame she ended up like that , she really didn’t deserve it .

Merci pour le partage

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

De rien, je suis ravie que la vidéo vous ait plu! 😊

@dannybeun948

Жыл бұрын

Tjs 1 plaisir 🙏

Please make more vids about this time period in France 🇫🇷 Love your channel!

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

I promise I definitely am! 😊 I've got a few series going at the moment on my channel, so I'm trying to be fair and do them in order - today is my Castle and Manor House tours video, next week Anglo-Saxon Rulers, then African Rulers, THEN another 18th Century France video. But I promise it's coming!

This is the video that introduced me to your channel. I've fallen in love with your channel and I can't wait for more videos

@HistorysForgottenPeople

6 ай бұрын

Aww, thank you so much! It's good to have you here. ☺

Thank you for sharing with us. Great documentary.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! I'm pleased you enjoyed it. 😊

It was a fantastic video, I really appreciate learning all this.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it! 😊

She did what so many women do,survived with what she'd been given by God. Her beauty,and her charm. She was kind hearted, and good,I Feel pity and great admiration for her.

Very well made. I throughly enjoy it! The narrator was absolutely brilliant!!

@HistorysForgottenPeople

8 ай бұрын

Awww, thank you so much! I'm pleased you enjoyed it. 😊

I desperately wish I could back in time and rewrite history, giving these women (such as Joanna and Jeanne) the happier endings they deserved. Tragic.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

I know what you mean, it would be lovely to do that. I think we can at least honour their memory nowadays, though, by continuing to improve things for women, and telling their stories.

@kitkat2263

Жыл бұрын

@History's Forgotten People yes! You are doing very noble work with these videos. Amplifying their stories and not allowing them to be lost to history. Thank you for that! ❤️

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

@@kitkat2263 Aww, thank you! I feel very humbled by that. Honestly, I'm just having a blast doing what I love, and I love that you guys enjoy it too. 😊

For a moderately bright woman, Du Barry showed remarkable ignorance regarding the deteriorating social & political conditions in France….The fact that she was raised in relative poverty, and attended a convent school filled with poor girls, proves that she could hardly plead ignorance to the horrific conditions that the poor endured… Du Barry’s sins were of selfishness & folly. I have never heard of her using her wealth to help the poor-and to continue living luxuriously amongst so much poverty-not even bothering to flee France when she had plenty of opportunity to do so-rather highlights both her sense of entitlement and her sheer detachment from reality….

This some very good information. Other channels and their documentaries neglect to tell the whole story of which you've told. Thank you.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much - I do always try to find as much detail as possible, so that means a lot. ☺

What's scandalous is how hooked I am too this podcast!

@HistorysForgottenPeople

4 ай бұрын

Aww, thank you! I'm so glad you're enjoying it. ☺

I wonder if the man she favored and bestowed an education on ever regretted turning against her.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

I think it was more complicated than that in his case, as he was also enslaved by her. It would be like the phrase, 'living in a gilded cage'. Plus we don't really have any record of much personal correspondence between them, so it's possible he had asked for his emancipation and Madame du Barry had refused.

This video is amazing and I loved the different perspective it gave on such an interesting story. I was wondering (if possible) you could let me know what the first song in the background is. Once again, amazing video!

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊 The music is 'No.1 A Minor Waltz', by Esther Abrami. I love that piece of music, it's so happy-sounding.

@pdawg8143

Жыл бұрын

@@HistorysForgottenPeople thank you very much, It really captured the story of Madame du Barry if that makes sense. Have a great day, I love your videos, I can watch them for hours :)

When Mme du Barry was presented at court to Louis XV, she was 25 and a half years old, and the king was 59 (fifty-nine!).

You deserve a podcast

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Aww, thank you! Interestingly, I am toying with the idea of doing a podcast in the future.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. "for there is NOTHING NEW under the sun".

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

It's true, and the older you get, the more you notice it!

If you have seen madam blueberry on veggie tales this puts a whole new spin on things 😂😂

@noellejames84

Жыл бұрын

Omg yaaaas!! 🤣🤣 Now 'I'm so blue' song that I haven't heard in a couple of decades *eek...😶...already?!* Is STUCK IN MY HEAD!! 🤦🏻‍♀️😅

You would think the revolutionists would realize she pushed herself through the classes and survived. She was one of the pleebians. They killed one of their own. But maybe she forgot where she came from. What a balance you'd have to keep. You'd be shuned by both classes.

Fascinating she did what she had to do and went down in history 🎉

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Her story is a really interesting one, and it was nice to find it went beyond just being the King's mistress (although, of course, that was probably the high point).

People have been canceling each other for thousands of years. Let’s not bring back the guillotine.

Oh wow! What a woman! She was very smart and sweet natured

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

It was really lovely to discover new things about her when researching, because previously I had only known she was the king's mistress, with nothing else to add!

God Save The King. Long Live The King.

Thank you.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome, I hope you enjoyed it! 😊

All was admirable; her cleverness, self-advancement, etc. However, submitting names, to the Revolutionary Tribune, and behaving in an unattractive manner, on the scaffold, left a blot----on a generous life.....

Genius Russian writer Dostoevsky was so touched by the tragic story and life's end of Madame du Barry that he included her death's mentioning in his famous novel Brothers Karamazov... Very humane glimpse into last seconds of the doomed life - as he was himself on the scaffolding once, preparing to be executed as a socialist revolutionary - when Tsar's reprieve arrived... He never forgot this horrific moments, it seems...

@HistorysForgottenPeople

2 ай бұрын

I didn't know that! Thank you for that little fact, I'll try and remember that.

@aegontargaryen9322

20 күн бұрын

I never knew that either , thank you for that titbit

I loved this video, which brought to mindu studies and travels as a young woman. I look forward to Johnny Depp and Maïwenn's upcoming film!

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊 I haven't seen the film yet, but I've heard mixed results about it. I'm hoping it's good!

Thank you for sharing. Pity you don't mention the boumer + bassange necklace that the King had ordered for her and which was then offered to Marie Antoinette and added to reasons to exécuté the queen. Also interesting that she shares the same birthday, ambition, background etc to Chanel! Lets see what the depp movie reveals :)

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

I actually have a separate video about that necklace! 😊 It's a very interesting story in its own right, so I wanted to give that story its own space.

Tres Bien!

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Merci! I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊

Asia Argento didnt portray her in such a sympathetic light. Most likely due to the time alloted the movie and after all it was about marie antoinette. Im glad to have seen this!

@HistorysForgottenPeople

8 ай бұрын

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊 She really wasn't put in a good light in that movie! I can't comment on the recent one about her, as I haven't seen it, but I don't think much was changed about her portrayal, sadly.

Does anyone know why she was disliked by Marie Antoinette? Was it because she was a commoner? Surely it can't be because she was mistress to the King of France? My understanding is it was "expected" for the King of France to have mistresses. Something like that would be an accepted position by the court.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

It was a mixture of the rumours of Jeanne having once being a prostitute (apparently having sex for money was different to being a mistress!), and the fact that she was a commoner. While the King had mistresses, they had to be both married and noble by birth, which of course, Madame du Barry wasn't. I think Marie Antoinette was quite swayed by the opinions of the King's daughters (the 'Mesdames') when she first arrived, and so was coloured by their opinion of Madame du Barry. A further issue was that the Mistress of the King was also something of a political role (the King's mistress tended to advise him on matters, Madame de Pompadour did it very ably), and Jeanne had no training in politics whatsoever.

@destinyclark4133

Жыл бұрын

I heard Marie despised immoral women due to having grown up with her father openly loving his mistress more than her mother, causing her much pain. Because of the hurt it caused her mother, this made little Marie develop a bitterness towards mistresses and unfaithful women which was why she later made sure all of her ladies in waiting were of the upmost morality.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

@Destiny Clark That does make a lot of sense, and probably was the biggest influence on how she viewed 'mistresses'.

@leeannproctor2966

4 ай бұрын

I want to know is who really started the feud between these two ladies?

This is great... I love it... To see in her life... I wish she would have written some journals in her life of her life...

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

That would be amazing if she had! It would be interesting to be able to really see what her innermost thoughts were.

Perhaps you could do a study of La Petite Morphise.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion! I'll add it to my list. 😊

😢poor Madame du barry. Her final years the french revolutionary killed her for no reason. She was one of them. A commoner who wanted to better her life. Surely they could have understand her position. For she could not say no to become a mistress to the king of france. Madame du barry was probably the most kindest woman in france. It was the people who hated her because she was beautiful, favourite in court and was beloved by the king. She held a lot of strength to go to Versailles and presented herself there. I say she was the bravest woman in Versailles.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

9 ай бұрын

I think a lot of the feelings towards Madame du Barry (and others in her position, who had raised themselves above their social station by using the royal family) were posited as even worse traitors, for taking money from the royal family that came from the common people, but not even having the naivety to think it was her place to take that money. Really, it just boils down to jealously, or at least it reads that way, in that anyone who had managed to make something of themselves in a way connected with the royal family were punished. Another woman who was viewed this way (although she escaped) was Élisabeth Vigée Le Brun, who painted most of the famous portraits of the royals and nobles that we have today.

Yeah that stupid Marie Antionette movie with Kirsten Dunst certainly portrayed her as a bad woman.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I wasn't a big fan of that film - although I get that they were (I think) trying to get a younger audience interested in that period of history, and it probably worked, and I can appreciate that. But it was very shallow on the history!

her mother must have been pretty striking too if she could get herself an unwed mother to be invited by a prosperous man to paris. it made me wonder if being illegitimate or unwed parent were black marks on paper but wasn't actually viscerally repulsive to most people, unless the prospect of marrying them was involved....?

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

I agree, I think her mother must have been attractive as well - also marrying while an illegitimate mother, which was impressive for the time. It's an interesting point. I think there's a certain element of when you're lower in the social order, these things become less important. And then there's also a possibility of an element of someone desiring a beautiful woman enough that they push aside the social errors like illegitimacy.

She was a real life Becky Sharp!

THE CANNES FILM FESTIVAL 2023 SENT ME HERE THE FILM CALLED JEANNE DU BARRY BY JOHNNY DEPP IS TAKING MANY BY STORM. A GREAT MOVIE AND IT HAS DONE THIS WOMAN JUSTICE. A GREAT WOMAN WITH A HEART NO MATTER HOW SHE ASCENDED IN HER POWER. MAY 28 2023./////////////////////// JEANNE BELIEVED IN THE BONDS OF FAMILY. SHE PROVED THIS WITH HER MOTHER BEING WITH HER ON HER RISE IN THE COURT AT VERSAILLES.

wow, it's not easy being mistress to the king of France

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

It certainly wasn't! It was a weird position, historically, as it was also (usually) a political position that came with some power.

Please can you tell me the names of the piano pieces used in this video?

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Of course! One is 'A Baroque Letter' by Aaron Kenny, and the other is 'No 1 A Minor Waltz' by Esther Abrami. 😊

@bewilderedbrit8928

Жыл бұрын

​@@HistorysForgottenPeople Thank you so much ❤

Beloved Kingdom of France.

I wonder your thoughts on the latest dramatisation of Du Barry in the BBC series Marie Antoinette? I really enjoyed your video

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Do you know, I haven't seen it yet! I keep meaning to, but there's a constant fight in my house between Bluey, football, and what I want to watch. 😂 I heard the critics found it 'boring', but often that means there's more nitty-gritty details, which I quite like. I must watch it at some point and see how du Barry is presented!

@Thedarkestduchess

Жыл бұрын

Hello Charlie, i am obsessed with anything European Royalty, and would LOVE to know where i, an American, can stream the show you speak of? I hadn't heard of it, at all. And i am so excited to watch. Thanks in advance

@elaineanderson4966

Жыл бұрын

Ooh I must check the BBC series out, haven't seen it yet thank-u!

@Thedarkestduchess

Жыл бұрын

@@elaineanderson4966 it's amazing! Im in the process of watching now. If you're in USA you'll have to watch BBC via a VPN. Happy Watching. It's literally perfect

@elaineanderson4966

Жыл бұрын

Thank u countess you are a film gem 💎 The BBC series of Marie Antoinette it is then. Love 😍 movie time.

I enjoyed that Madame du Barry wasn't shown as the Evil Vixen.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

10 ай бұрын

I definitely believe she wasn't! Researching her was so nice because it revealed a very kind, generous soul who just happened to have cottoned on that she could use her beauty and sexuality to make a life for herself and her family. Hardly the scandalous harlot of legend!

I did know that she was a mistress but did not know that she was kind person

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Anything of her personality is often swept aside, I think, in favour of the 'commoner mistress of the king' story of her. Like lots of people in history, du Barry was turned into a one-sided caricature.

1.25 is the perfect speed

Its better too be a old mans sweetheart , then a young mans slave. The men died.The jewels lasted. I lived it.

Until the 1970's, being born a woman was in itself a losing proposition. In many countries it still is.

Brilliant Video so informative. She appears to have been a woman who didn't forget her origins and supported charitable causes. 😢

@HistorysForgottenPeople

8 ай бұрын

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊 This is it, I agree in that I don't think she ever forgot being 'poor', but she equally enjoyed having a finer lifestyle. Obviously at the time that wouldn't have gone down well with people who were starving, but at the same time she wasn't enjoying her life maliciously.

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Only the death of the little dauphin, son of lous XVI is more horrible than that of madame Du Barry. The stories of the reign of terror have always colored my view of france. A country that can murder little children and kind women must live in everlasting shame. Poor woman. What sort of man can bear to hear such screams for mercy and not respond justly.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

8 ай бұрын

You're right, but in some defence of France, all countries of Europe (and other places) have, throughout different points in history, happily murdered children and adults of all kinds in the name of various things. It doesn't change how horrible the Revolution was, but France wasn't alone in committing atrocities, either. And apparently, they did have to speed her execution up as her pleas for mercy were actually turning the crowd, who as you say, were obviously moved by her terror. 🙁

Thank you

Beauty comes with a price.

How is it ok for a married woman to be a mistress of the king but not a single girl? Like what?

@HistorysForgottenPeople

8 ай бұрын

I know! I couldn't wrap my head around that one, either. Apparently, being a married woman meant she was respectable...even if she was then sleeping with the king. 😅

@NorthernLights2375

8 ай бұрын

@@HistorysForgottenPeople I think it was in case any illegitimate children were born from the affair with the King. These children could be passed off as the children from an existing marriage. These children were not allowed to inherit the throne. A Marriage was beneficial on two fronts Protection for the King & it protected his throne for his legitimate heirs.

@glen7318

Ай бұрын

@@HistorysForgottenPeople dont be silly. A husband was a protection for a woman, it made her respectable, gave a nominal father for her children

These days she would be considered a rich celebrity

@HistorysForgottenPeople

7 ай бұрын

I think she would have done really well in the modern period!

Sounds like a typical story on why men need to be present in their daughters lives . She did her business and when a man gave her attention ofc she was all for it because she never had a male idol in her life. Ive heard more scandal, sad she was beheaded. Sounds like she stood out and and

we have the same birthday

I heard the kiss story was actually Madame Pompadour! And Jeanne got TO COURT via that marriage. That was it's purpose.

Lol the length a king can go to make her his mistress. It's insane nothing in the world has changed. Men will do anything to install a pretty blond blue eyes girl to high status.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

It is funny how some things stay the same! I certainly don't blame Jeanne, mind you, I think she just found a way to play the system of her day. 😊

@TopSecretInformations

11 ай бұрын

That's why in my next life I want to be very physically attractive because people will do *anything* for you if you're good looking!!

@HistorysForgottenPeople

11 ай бұрын

@@TopSecretInformations I hate to agree, but you're right! 🤣

a movie gonna come out with mme du barry with johnny depp

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

I'd heard of that! Not sure how I feel about it, I feel like he might go too far with Louis XV. The real Louis XV was apparently very shy and awkward!

@Lady_Angela1

Жыл бұрын

Amber Heard would play a great Du Barry.

Why is the screen that shows coin ,showing British coinage ?

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

Because sadly, using free footage (as I have to for the time being) means that sometimes I have to use a clip that might not be exactly what I want, but will be enough to illustrate the history.

@lynne523

Жыл бұрын

@@HistorysForgottenPeople I was just curious and in no way was my comment meant to be a slight on the fantastically informative content you create! Thank you so much . x

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

@Lynne No, it's totally fine! Honestly, I've been waiting for someone to ask. 🤣 Hopefully in a couple of years I can have the dizzying heights of a Getty Images subscription, and I'll make sure I have the right ones, haha!

All I know of her is from Sofia Copola's Marie Antoinette.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

It's a very entertaining film, but it also frustrates me because so much actual history is left out! 🙈 I think if you look at that movie as being from Marie Antoinette's point of view, that is likely how she saw her. Du Barry wasn't very well liked by the court, but it's a shame in that in that movie she is nothing more than a sexy playmate for Louis XV, when she was a deeper personality than that in real life. But I think that goes for most people in historical films, usually! 😊

You've written that ahe is the mistress of Louis XVI, in stead of Louis XV, Louis XVI never had a mistress, which made him very unusual for a French price or king.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

You're right, she was Louis XV's mistress, but I can't see where I've written Louis XVI? Perhaps if you could point it out to me? 😊

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

I've just realised you perhaps mean the title? It's just a vertical dash separating 'The Scandalous Mistress of King Louis XV' and 'Madame du Barry'. I do it on each video, so I have my title, and the keywords for the person I'm talking about.

@bewilderedbrit8928

Жыл бұрын

​@@HistorysForgottenPeople Your doing a splendid job, just ignore the nitwit.

Well she isn't here to defend herself is she? We need to get her an attorney! And YES SNOBS will "IGNORE" people....I think today it's called CANCELLED.

@Mftjan2000

7 ай бұрын

I was pleased you were fair about her.

@Mftjan2000

7 ай бұрын

She seemed to love him and he her....awww.

I am her. it's just she slept up. I slept way way down. It's Canada 2023. We are seeing some correlations here.

To to sad

I still think she was a much better person than Athenaïs Montespan. Jeanne didn't deserve so much ire, or to die the way she did.

@HistorysForgottenPeople

9 ай бұрын

I really don't, either. To be honest, before researching more about Jeanne, I didn't really think much of her, but the more I got to know about her, the more I really liked her. I've got a bit of a soft spot for her now, if you can have such a thing for a historical figure long since dead.

What’s a koifu,,,??? 14:10mins into documentary,,,, your describing her dress being gold and white,,, and she was late due to her ‘koifu being spectacular it was the cause of her being late.!!!’ What’s that.?!?! I don’t know if I’m spelling it correctly

@HistorysForgottenPeople

7 ай бұрын

No worries, it's 'coiffure' (my pronunciation might be a little off 😉). It basically means an elaborately styled hair-do, and during the late 18th century in France they became ridiculous amongst the elite! Ladies would take a long time getting them ready, and in this case, it was the cause of her being late. 😊

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My ancestors were enslaved by some of her family - the DeBerry family. Interesting

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

It is true that it's known many of du Barry's family did have slaves after she became wealthy, not least the boy who was enslaved to her.

@valenciasaintilus9573

Жыл бұрын

Ayisyen?

@iamjustsaying4787

Жыл бұрын

Was he really? I never heard of a slave being asked to resign from service.

@bewilderedbrit8928

Жыл бұрын

​@@iamjustsaying4787 Yes but remember in the age of woke, words have been altered to mean different things to their traditional definitions. 😊

@CAL-zq3dk

22 күн бұрын

​@@iamjustsaying4787Resign for service he was never paid for is like just kicking him out.

DId any of descendants escape to Ireland?

Eager to see Maiwenn and Johnny Depp's movie "Jeanne du Barry".

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

I'm so curious about it, but haven't seen it yet! I've heard both good and bad reviews.

How does one marry off a 6 year old or did I hear that wrong?

@HistorysForgottenPeople

Жыл бұрын

At 6 years old she was sent to a convent, definitely not married off!