I live in Oosterbeek.. A friend of mine found a Dorset emblem a long while ago while metal detecting at the river.. So sad what happened here.. We the people who live here will never forget. Not only were the Dorsets sacrificed.. The entire 1st AB division was and with them my grandparents and all the people that lived here.. My town still bears the scars of that onslaught.. Sadly this year the commemorations were cancelled except for high ranking vip's (as usual) due to covid.. Personally I am involved in a group who organizes "the race to the bridge".. a commemoration drive from the landing fields at Renkum towards the bridge at Arnhem and back for British vehicles only.. Over the years though American junk and German vehicles joined and sometimes over 300 ww2 vehicles are on the road just for this commemoration drive.. But not this year.. And yet the people who live here remembered.. like every year...

@hughgrection4205

3 жыл бұрын

I have so much respect for the Dutch people and their never ending gratitude to Canadian and British fallen

@jonny7491

3 жыл бұрын

I sometimes wonder if England had been invaded and suffered like the people of Holland, that our youth of today would be more grateful of the sacrifice others made on their behalf.

@user-ze8nc7uf6e

Жыл бұрын

That's absolutely brilliant

This is fast becoming my favourite KZread channel along with Mark Feltons channel. Informative, well researched and accurate telling of history. I thank you. RIP to the men who gave their lives to ensure that fascism was defeated. Lest we forget.

Well done video. Sadly, the sacrifice of the 4th Dorsets at Arnhem seems to get left out as an afterthought. Lest we forget.

My grandfather was with Tilley when he surrendered, surrounded in the woods. He is still alive. We think he may be the last surviving member of the Dorsets that crossed the Rhine and are searching for any others.

@mannymarin7317

3 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome I wish you luck 🙏🏽

@myview5840

3 жыл бұрын

How has your journey progress 8 months later.

@philharvey3957

3 жыл бұрын

@@myview5840 seems he is the last

@myview5840

3 жыл бұрын

@@philharvey3957 respect to the man, and best wishes for the future.

@graemelothian1762

2 жыл бұрын

Mr Harvey, I stumbled on your message just now and was amazed there was anyone still alive (well, 11months ago anyway) from Arnhem ....and especially who would've known my grandfather Lt Col Gerald Tilly. If your Grandfather is still alive it would be fascinating to know how they had to surrender to the Germans on the 25th Sept '44. The shame I've always had was never once curious enough to ask him anything about the war. But years later when I was 20 I had my very long hair cut, silly beard shaved off and joined the Parachute Regiment and also jumped into Arnhem in 1982. The Dutch were(and still are) absolutely wonderful during the whole Arnhem remembrance weekend. As official war artist to the Army during the Afghan campaign (Op Herrick), going on five tours there and when with 5Rifles in Nar e Saraj, Helmand many of the soldiers were in the Dorsets originally knew more about their Regiment from Normandy to Germany , especially Arnhem, than I did. Thanks for persevering through the above and was delighted to see above video of the Dorset's at Arnhem. Graeme Lothian.

Dad was with 130 brigade 43rd Wessex. He's 98 this year and still remembers the campaign from landing on Sword Beach on 20 June (his 21st birthday) up to when he was wounded on 15 October 1944.

Wow, thank you for this video!. A week ago I had the honour to talk to a British veteran who fought at Arnhem. It was very impressive and (i didn't expect this) realy emotional. I met him during my visit to Schijndel (I live in Eindhoven) for an airdrop in rememberance of the start of Market Garden, at exactly the same place and time. It was so very special. Even more because two of the men that jumped 75 years ago, made that jump again. A very humbling experience. Because if those men all had stayed home 75 years ago, I wouldn't have had the freedom I have now. So thanks for your video. People should never ever forget what happend.

Thank you for this. While I was never a British soldier, it is my custom to remember all fellow warriors, especially those whose sacrifice history does not remember quite as well as it should.

As a Devonian I'm proud of my Westcountry brothers, and devastated that their lives were thrown away

@mrbritannia3833

11 ай бұрын

As a dorset lad I am proud of all the lads who fought for our country, sovereignty and freedom.

Just discovered this channel - outstanding work. Really enjoying the films - especially pleased to see the Dorsets remembered.

My grandad was captured at Arnhem. Was in the East Surrey regiment, then transferred to the Dorsets. He was captured and taken to POW camp Dresden.

Lots of good men never came home, remember them.

Today I visited the Oosterbeek War Cemetry. I thank you dear Brits for coming to help us.

@DaDaW9762

Ай бұрын

Thank you for visiting our glorious dead on our behalf..

True British man, much respect💙🇬🇧

Thanks for this video, gave me some tactical context. My great uncle, WIlliam Stewart Young, was RAMC, 4th Bat, Royal Dorset's. A Scottish Soldier from Blantyre, South Lanarkshire. He was Killed in action, on or around September 1944. He was 25 years of age. All I have is apocryphal and pictures of his re-interment at Oosterbeek war commentary. Initial burial records indicate Ossterbeek Church. To the everlasting glory of the infantry and the 4th Dorset's. I remember.

Great Narration. Thank you for telling me about the 4th Battalion Dorset Regiment!

The Carlisle mortar team at 2.20 Taken on Thursday 21 September this is one of a series of famous photos showing a 3 inch Mortar team from the 1st Border Regiment. The men are Corporal Jim McDowell (in the front of the picture) Private Norman 'Jock' Knight (to the left of the picture) and Private Ron 'Ginger' Tierney (facing the camera) all of Nº 23 Mortar Platoon, Support Company, 1st Border Regiment dug in close to the edge of the woodland to the south of Van Lennepweg, Oosterbeek.

@zen4men

4 ай бұрын

Poor Ginger looks severely shell-shocked - too tired to cover his ears, but opening his mouth to reduce pressure(?). It is good that their names are known! /

Such brave men. Lest we forget.

Thank you. You must have put a lot of effort into this. Subbed

I have an old photograph of 'A Company' The Dorsets, taken at Malin Head, County Donegal: Ireland, sometime before the outbreak of the First World war.

Very intersting documentary. Visited Arnhem and Osterbeek 10 years ago, but never ran over this sad and tragic military action. Thank you for your efforts, to show the site from todays perspective.👍🎗

Never should men be committed to a mission which "is doomed from the beginning".

@Pfsif

4 жыл бұрын

We are ruled by psychopaths.

@hanoitripper1809

4 жыл бұрын

Montys ego = good men dying

@hanoitripper1809

4 жыл бұрын

Barry White this was nothing more than an egotistical exercise for a selfish man

@mauryhan

4 жыл бұрын

I also think the "end the war by Christmas" mentality was dangerous. You should fight to end as soon as is feasible with as little loss of life as possible, not some date on a calendar.

@bigwoody4704

4 жыл бұрын

IKE should have over ruled this because of the one elevated road with no room to maeuver and having no immediate resupply in the highly unlikely event it did succeed

Excellent video. Another part of Market Garden I did not really understand. As with other details I am gut wrenched such brave and capable men were given a grim task with little chance. I will never forget and be forever thankfull the Commonwealth are allies.

I tried, but you can't put it into words. At least I can't. Very, very brave men.

My dad was with the 130 brigade, he remembers the Dorsets coming back from this mission.

Sad mistake. Rest in peace young men. your sacrifice was not in vain. Nobody will ever forget you brave warriors.

So sad to think about all the sacrificie and those lost boys,, never found 😔

Very interesting vid, covering an aspect of MG that rarely sees the light of day. Love your vids mate, keep em coming. 🇬🇧👍

Great video mate, as usual. Its really sad that so many brave men paid the ultimate price to rid Europe of the Nazi regime. May they all rest in peace. 🇬🇧🇺🇸✌✌

My Grandfsther George Ringshaw was part of the 4th Dorsets on this particular mission. Thank you for the video and the information sadly He was taken POW and sent too Stalag xIIA .

My grandad spent his 21st birthday in Arnhem. Went through whole war unscratched, got so drunk on birthday he had to have his stomach pumped 🤣

Proud to live in Dorset I am.

@Luca-hm4pl

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

Really enjoying and appreciating your content thank you.

A great and humbling video keep up the good work

The whole operation was a shambles from start to finish. Sosabowski and others were right from the start and were then shamefully scapegoated.

My Dad was with the 43 Wessex Infantry Division. He remembers the Dorset's return.

============================================ A well-made and sensitively spoken tribute to Brave Men! ============================================ One small quibble ... A battalion commander is the Commanding Officer. A company commander is known as Officer Commanding X Company. Presumably it was designed to reduce confusion. /

My Grandad, Bill Chutter was in the Dorsets at the time of this battle. Survived the war and went on to live until he was 100.

A waste of good men. May they rest in peace.

Wow talk about guts ..and consider they lost quite few in numbers killed ie 15 they still did what they did bravery at the utmost respect to you all.. God bless.

Surely Gen Thomas was aware of the plan regarding the FOURTH airborne division? No sooner had Urquhart seized both bridges (yes, the railway bridge to the west of the Arnhem road bridge was also a primary objective), they were then to secure Deelen airfield - about 3km north of the bridges. To that end both US Airborne Airfield engineers and the RAF's AFDAC airfield units had dropped with the 1st Airborne in order to prepare for the arrival of 52nd Lowland Inf Div (Air Portable). With the Arnhem area reinforced with this further fresh light infantry division, potential difficulties in holding the area just vanished. Gen Browning refused Gen Hakewill-Smith's offer to hurl 52nd Lowland into the Arnhem cauldron once the bridgehead had failed. Perhaps one of Browning's better decisions.

I find it very interesting how top heavy the British Army is, with majors as Company Commanders, while the American army, for instance 2-506th 101st Airborne had Captains as BN Commanders and junior Lt’s at platoon, if there were any officers...

These accounts are so sad, hearing of good men faithfully following orders then to be lost for no good reason.

@OpRaven-62

4 жыл бұрын

Peace Frog war is nasty.

First - and fantastic vid as always

Another fine video, thanks. Was the music by Arvo Part?

I served 12 years in the Royal Hampshire Regt, 1978-1990. During this time, or at least early on, there was a vicious rivalry between us and what had become 1 Devon & Dorsets. (At the time of Op Market Garden the Hampshires were not Royal as your graphic suggests. They received that honour in 1946 for distinguished actions on the Arromanches beach.) I didn’t understand the historical basis of the rivalry. It was serious stuff. Perhaps it stems from this op. Both regiments had been in non-stop action since D-Day. God bless all of us those who fought there and who fell there. It wasn’t for nothing.

Nice one. Thanks.

Superb! Love dox in detail!! Many thanx!

Nice to see the use of maps relevant to the battle.

Churchill knew the British army was badly led. Unfortunately, our victory allowed the poor actions to go uninvestigated & as history is rewritten by victors, sacrifices like this are edited out to protect the chosen few. Lest we forget the fallen who had NO choice but to obey " poor leadership".

@dulls8475

Жыл бұрын

Rubbish.

I cannot help but think about how much time effort planning and logistics that went on during WW2 to fight all because they could not reason together and share or work out the problems and so many families have suffered so greatly as the results of all these wars WW1 WW2 Korea Vietnam Desert Storm One and 2 and all these proxy wars that go on behind the scenes that sometimes you do hear about. The courage and bravery of individuals and units are so inspiring and the sacrifices of many to help the greater plan is really a special thing. So many families today suffer losses waking missing a loved one or seeing their loved completely ruined from what they experienced in those battles and the battle to try to be human again when they come home. Today as I look at the big picture you can see it happening again the lines are being drawn and forces getting prepared and prepositioned for the next conflict yet they proclaim the accomplishments of all this new technology yet still these leaders that are really in control behind the scenes see the only way to solve things is through death and annihilation in a winner take all mentality who are these MONSTERS that hide in the shadows and enjoy all this death and suffering.

Someone in the higher up of the decision making body had sacrificed those poor lads into the coffin box place even knowing well that heavy German armoured battalion was present there and sent those lightly Armed Forces. Also, mainly because of the ego's of the General's of the allied forces those poor chaps had to endured the hell there. Without any assistances they were send behind enemy lines, the whole operations was doomed from the start, they were just left on their own.

There's always been a lot of controversy surrounding Market Garden, the blame was often laid at Monty's feet but Ike approved it and obviously had faith in the plan. 2 factors had a massive impact on the operation, the British Airborne units were dropped too far away from their objectives, about 8km, and the fact that the 9th and 10th SS Panzer divisions were refitting in the area, according to some, the Dutch resistance had photographed the Germans there and passed these onto British intelligence but some refute this. We can never be sure but what is definitely true is that the Allies lost a lot of men as casualties or captured for absolutely no gain whatsoever.

@spannerpasser

Жыл бұрын

Many incorrectly lay the blame at Monty’s door yet fail to appreciate the circumstances around the planning of the operation and this blame is mainly due to a book and a movie of the same name. Montgomery came up with the idea of Operation Comet which was to drop the 1st Airborne Division on the same objectives with the British 1st Airborne Division and the 1st Polish Parachute Brigade. He cancelled the operation in the early hours of the 10th September due to intelligence reports of a build up up German opposition in the are, which was backed up by the fighting taking place in Belgium after the Great Sawn and the liberation of Brussels and Antwerp in the early days of September. Eisenhower took Monty’s idea and handed it to the 1st Allied Airborne Army under Brereton to plan the airborne part of what was to become Operation Market Garden. The decisions taken by the airborne planners had serious repercussions for the airborne troops. The refusal by senior Air Force officers both US and British to fly 2 lifts on the first day as they said that the crews would be tired and the aircraft would need refused yet 2 drops were done in the South of France from Italy which was a longer distance. The refusal to do double tows with the gliders and also the Air Force selecting the dropping and landing zones with little to no input from the airborne troops themselves. The Air Force officers looked on the operation as just delivering the airborne troops to a destination and took no cognisance of the loss of the element of surprise, lack of troops able to move off to primary objectives etc. The failure of Gavin to ensure that Nijmegen bridge was captured on the first day also had repercussions as once XXX Corps arrived they had to fight to clear the city and the approaches to the bridge instead of just drive right on over as they were expecting. The ground element of the plan which did ultimately come under Monty as it was the 2nd British Army from 21st Army Group that was involved was the only part that worked. The advance of XXX Corps which some have critiqued for taking to long was typical of an armoured attack. On the first day they fought through the ambushes on the road to Valkenswaard and once there regrouped. The tanks would of been refused and rearmed, checked any issues sorted and then the men would of rested (that’s how armoured troops work). The next day they motored against very little opposition into Eindhoven and to Son where the bridge was blown. The Royal Engineers built the bridge overnight and the armoured column left before daybreak, they motored across the Grave Bridge and were diverted over the bridge at Molenhoek on the Maas Waal canal and entered Nijmegen from the south east. They then had to fight into the city centre and in coordinated attacks with the US paratroopers including the assault crossing of the Waal attacked towards the bridge. A troops of Sherman’s from the Grenadier Guards made a break for the bridge and under sporadic small arms fire made it across. At the far end of the bridge one tank went forward around half a mile to a railway bridge and was knocked out by an 88 FLAK gun. Another tank was damaged and the crew bailed out with some US paratroopers later crewing the tank gun. After fighting in Nijmegen again the tanks had to stop and refuel and rearm before moving off. By the time the fighting at Nijmegen had died down the British had been pushed away from Arnhem bridge which allowed the Germans to reinforce towards Nijmegen much faster than they had been doing using the ferry over the Rhine at Pannerden east of Arnhem. You are correct though Eisenhower could of not went ahead with the operation but he was under pressure from Washington to use the airborne troops ( no one who’s paying for something likes to see it not being used) and from London to liberate the Netherlands to stop the V2s which were being launched from there and hitting London. I also believe that the operation was mounted to get allied troops over the Rhine and up to the Zuiderzee which would of cut off the 15th Army in the Netherlands and would of made clearing the Scheldt easier as they ran out of supplies and also to secure the approaches to Antwerp thus securing the port for future use by the allies.

My father was in the Dorsets but he must have been in a different battalion because he said he was not in that sector. Makes me shudder to think his story could have been so different.

THANKS FOR ALL UP DATES MORE FOR ALL THAT SHOULD BE REMEMBERED .

Market Garden was a great plan, but 'the Germans, the Germans!' As General Sosabowski (sorry about the spelling) warned Browning.

excellent vid,thank you

Great video of a unjustly forgotten brave action. One important point the Zuiderzee was indeed the objective of Market Garden by Monty. This in order to cut off the German 15th army. Yet Monty forgot to plan properly and ask the Dutch. The Zuiderzee had become the IJssellake. It wouldn't of trapped the 15th army anyway. Monty lied later on about this then knowing his mistake. Had he talked with the Dutch he could of excecuted the atack as the Germans had done in May 1940. Flighing boats. Also how to fix radio and what the ground was like. Same goes for this escapede. Not using availeble knowledge cost many brave men dearly.

@Peoples_Republic_of_Devonshire

4 жыл бұрын

The man was too obsessed with his ego and self image to be able to plan well objectively, instead believing that the great Montgomery could carry it through. The Americans wanted Alexander instead of Montgomery in Europe and he's who should have been selected for 21st Army Group instead of a man who was in love with his self image and offended practically every American above the rank of Sergeant making allied warfare bloody hard

@barthoving2053

2 жыл бұрын

Even without the causeway up north you have shipping to take in consideration. Something the British planners seemed to underestimate. Huge numbers of troops had already crossed the Westerscheld after the taking of Antwerp. Letting large parts of the defeated Germans units at Normandy escape and fight another day. But the idea was the Germans were already defeated and the Allies could get away with shoddy planning. But hasty planning was also unavoidable as Market Garden was only a month after the closing of the Falaise pocket. Iirc the 1st Airborne army had already been canceled several operations in the field made them unnecessary.

@keithcrispin1368

2 жыл бұрын

@@barthoving2053 the British planners weren't responsible for allowing the Germans to escape or close the falaise gap ,it was Bradley's decision not to advance to the Canadians and the poles because of a clash between each armies had he done so ,a right decision to make ,and let the air power finish them off in the corridor. However Monty should have cleared the straits ,walcheren first thus engaging the remnants and the 15th Army, but like everyone else, the general opinion was the Germans were retreating and a push into Germany,bypassing pockets would do the trick,.

@barthoving2053

2 жыл бұрын

@@keithcrispin1368 I might not made myself clear, i'm not talking about the Falaise gap. After the battle of Normandy a large amount of German troops who escaped the Falaise Pocket were trapped between the coast and the advance of the commonwealth troops into Brussel and Antwerp. The capture of Antwerp put the Westerscheld between those German forces and and a position were they could regroup and reequip. But they still got ferried over as it's an estuary making it hard to attack with naval source and not even safe for airpower. The port of Breskens was bombed but the ferries were missed and infrastructure not significant damaged. So the Germans kept crossing and were able to fight another day for example at Arnhem. Prioritising clearing the estuary would have opened up the supply lines and cut those troops of permanently. But like you said the thought they could just keep moving up, probably ignoring their logistics officers. And it would mean attacking the Atlantic Wall again. Not an idea that would popular, of course after Arnhem they still did. And the area behind the Atlantic Wall was made unfavourable for airborne assaults.

@keithcrispin1368

2 жыл бұрын

@@barthoving2053 i dont think the planners were ignoring logistics to be honest, all the allied forces were on stop due to lack of fuel and supplies, the Germans were retreating faster than the Allies could catch up until the Allies dd slow down then the next problem was were to attack, the Rhur or the Saar ,and coupled with the idea of taking a port without it been destroyed, Gen Horrocks 30 corps commander said he should have been allowed his advance right up to the approaches of Antwerp he reckoned he had enough fuel to do so but was ordered to halt.

My dad was xxx cor dorsets he did not say much about it even on our visits there .

Capt. (Dr) Percy Louis RAMC, 133 Parachute Field Ambulance, MO 1st Airborne Corps Advanced HQ, made several trips into the Arnhem 'cauldron' [*] with the Dorsets, carrying fresh medical supplies and assisting with the cross-river evacuation of seriously wounded airborne troops. He went Missing in Action, 24th September 1944, body never found. Why do I mention this brave doctor/soldier? Because he travelled in Gen Fredk Browning's glider during the Corps lift. Consequently, the Browning haters - British and American - persistently disrespect and besmirch Capt. Louis' memory by claiming he was 'Browning's Doctor'. He was not. [1] yes, the German's called the Arnhem area 'Der Kessel' (the cauldron). This was a term they reserved for battle areas like Stalingrad.

My grandfather was in the 4th battalion - unfortunately he was KIA on the 15 July , so didnt make it to this action. Do you have any earlier footage of the 4th Battalion?

Sorry to make a correction but the aim of Operation Market Garden was actually to completely cut off and trap the German 15th Army in the Scheldt Estuary Area (approx +90,000 troops and a lot of armoured equipment). The idea that the operation was to swing around the Siegfried line into the north German plains was put forward by Montgomery himself many years after the war in his memoir. Eisenhower disputed this reasoning and said the operation was designed to annihilate the German 15th Army prior to a push into northern Germany. But I guess historians will always argue these semantics.

Ordinary soldiers pay the price with their lives when the higher ups mess up

Nice video and very informative and very entertaining and very satisfaction.

The Germans were waiting for them. There were 2 armoured divisions in the area allegedly “refitting”. It was perhaps from a resistance double agent or they broke the allied codes. The official line was a glider crashed and a German soldier found the plans but that’s all too convenient.

@spannerpasser

Жыл бұрын

The Germans were not waiting for them. The 2 units were refitting and the 9SS had already starting moving men back to Germany and had been ordered to turn over their remaining vehicles to the 10SS. The 2 SS Panzer Divisions were shadows of their former selves having been mauled in France. What little armour they had had been detached and the 10th SS had sent its PanzerJager battalion to the Neerpelt Bridgehead and were involved in the fighting during the XXX Corps breakout on the 17th Sept. The 9SS Reconnaissance Battalion still had many of its half tracks and attacked the north end of Arnhem bridge on the 18th September from the south and were repulsed. The men of the 9SS Panzer Regiment were acting as infantry as they had no vehicles. The Dutch Resistance were not told about the operation due to the Englandspiel and the fact that the British didn’t trust the resistance because of this. The armour that was used at Arnhem by the Germans was brought in during the following few days as there were very few tanks in the area which included antiquated tanks from the Herman Goering Panzer Davison Training School.

Montgomery. The more I hear about this campaign the less I doubt his real abilities.

RIP. PBI.

History hasn't been kind to Gen Thomas (often named as 'Ivor' rather than 'Gwilgym'). "I saw him once, looking every inch the thorough-going shit he was reported to be" noted a young 2nd Lt, Sherwood Forest Rangers, in his diary. Thomas - small, pugnacious and profane - was reputed to have little concern with battle casualties in his 43rd Wessex Div. earning him the soubriquet 'Butcher Thomas'. It may be no coincidence that Thomas was invited to that very bad-tempered meeting between Horrocks and Polish para Gen Sosabowski. It sounds like Gen Thomas was there as 'Bad Cop'.

An entirely different class of man.

Hero’s all and will never be forgotten!

My dad was Dorset regiment . Can I get the airborne pennant they were awarded

" Who's afear'd "

Lions led by upper-class donkeys in those days. Lions led by a corrupt and increasingly traitorous career political donkey class today. Many of the donkeys are of a similar type to back then, though. In fact, our ‘elite’ political classes of left/liberal and ‘supposedly’ conservative ideological persuasions are the biggest enemies democracy, the West, freedom, independence and the UK as a country have today. A problem of a similar type exists all over the West, in fact. The sacrifice of the Lions - united brothers from all over the British Isles, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Canada, Rhodesia, Kenya, India, Nepal, Pacific Islanders, Eire (many fought against the Axis), Norway, etc. should never be forgotten. Remember also the sacrifice of the US and the terrible cost to Russia! Their sacrifice must never be wasted either! Democracy and freedom is a very fragile thing - especially when up against well coordinated, hostile, most strategic, autocratic, fanatical (indoctrinated), huge industrial, long-termist and big money powers. Stand up for democracy, freedom, your rights, your private economy, security, civilisation, very identity and way of life against the rotten mainstream ruling classes (the donkeys) working today for global big capital and de facto global autocracy via a Davos-Beijing Axis. A great channel. Well done! I hope people appreciate their sacrifice - and don’t take it for granted. In this sense, they liveth forever more and must continue to do so!

Gwilgym now that's a name

Major General Thomas' name was Gwilym not Gwilgym. Gwilym is a welsh name, which translates into English as William. Might be worth correcting your video and getting the man's name correct.

As so often with the Brirish. The best soldiers in the world, wasted by poor equipment and bad high ranking oficers

The whole of Operation Market Garden was botcht from the Start Good men needlesly died almost for nothing Let's do them all a favor and remember them

Salute

There’s a great documentary about this on KZread by Jeremy Clarkson - it’s a must watch! Type in Jeremy Clarkson VC into KZread..

And the British officer corps got a free pass.

Monty did not believe intel reports that 2 SS panzer divisions were in the Arnhem area in Sept, 1944. And it turned out the 9th SS 'Hohenstaufen' & the 10th SS 'Frundsberg' were indeed in the area. That 'home by Christmas' b.s. is a detested pithy methapor in the military. That same blunder happened in Korea when they could be home by Christmas 1950 after the Inchon landings & the quick drive to the Yalu. But the chicoms intervened right after Thanksgiving prolonging the war until July 1953. Yeah, they got 'home by Christmas' but Christmas of 1953. Smfh. 😔😡😠

@davemac1197

11 ай бұрын

Incorrect. The presence of SS-Panzer troops moving into the Veluwe and Achterhoek regions on 7/8 September reported by the Dutch resistance was the reason Montgomery cancelled Operation Comet and replaced it with Market Garden on 10 September, upgraded to use three airborne divisions instead of just one. British 1st Airborne Division's anti-tank batteries were briefed to expect heavy armoured counter-attacks on the first day, including Panther and Tiger tanks that didn't actually arrive until later. Intelligence is not the reason Market Garden failed, but has become part of the mythology created by Cornelius Ryan's incomplete book, A Bridge Too Far (1974), published in an unfinished condition because he had terminal cancer.

Great video however wouldn’t it of made more sense for it to be a D-Day video such as the battle for Pegasus bridge etc as it’s the 75th Anniversary?

@livethforevermore

5 жыл бұрын

For the men of the 4 Dorsetshire Regiment, this was D-Day.

well done

Knowing the history, every time I hear the name “Market Garden”, I cringe.

Gen Hacket lost most of his men at Arnhem ....He later said to Horrocks...'Why did'nt you brass up that road to that bloody bridge...!'....Horrocks had no answer to Hackets request...just silence....It's no wonder the 'old boy network' is no longer 'good enough'....Horrocks ordered 'house clearing' in Nijmegen as being 'more important'....The ultimate blame must therefore lay at the feet of Monty...He was the 'glory boy' architect of this whole dubious 'venture'.

@H4CK61

5 жыл бұрын

Agree but its Hackett not Hacket

@sean640307

5 жыл бұрын

If Gavin had taken the bridge at Nijmegen on day 1, then XXX Corps would have been able to. However, like all of the other units, they had insufficient transports allocated to them so Gavin concentrated his efforts on protecting the landing zone from the (fictitious) threat of the 1000 tanks allegedly in the Reichswald. His decision to do this meant that by the time the advanced elements of XXX Corps got to Nijmegen, the bridge and the city were still very much in German hands. Gavin's decision was fatal to the entire operation, BUT even more damning was that Williams and Brereton (with Browning complicit as well) failed to allocate sufficient air transportation to enable ALL of the needed airborne units to be deployed at once. This, more than the plan or the "single road" is what doomed the operation. Montgomery gets plenty of blame, but the airborne operation was not his planning. Eisenhower SHOULD have ensured that it was either fully resourced or not undertaken at all.

A BABY bridge? Huh? Surely, a BAILEY bridge?

Failed landings just like the ANZACs at ANZAC cove aka ANZAC day. A failed operation just like...you guessed it, the battle of Gallipoli. Brave soldiers don't get me wrong, in both operations but the ignorance of their CO's using them like that 😔

How about showing the 51st InfDiv being left behind, whilst the rest of the BEF managed to get back to the UK. Then being reformed earned such fame, no other UK InfDiv could over come. And even Monty said this was his most solid Div.

@RicTic66

5 жыл бұрын

Instead of going on about a division that had nothing to do with Market Garden. How about showing some respect for the brave men of the Dorsets who paid the ultimate sacrifice? Or do you just troll KZread posting irrelevant comments?

@Ewen6177

5 жыл бұрын

@@RicTic66 Totally different Op i know, but I think it would be worth the coverage. Yes Op Market Garden nearly worked. And all involved did their damndest to make this plan work.

@dulls8475

4 жыл бұрын

@@RicTic66 English regiment so of no real interest to the flash divisions and the decisions with thee best press coverage. So good to see a little English regiment given credit.

Monty’s Folly. Poor planning and poor intel.

It is usually cock up, nothing more. A dash of incompetence is aften there as well"

F to pay respect

I don’t think you know how important you are!

Hey guys who are left must be thinking wghh.. Why, just look at the world now !!. What was it for guys ??.

Oxford n bucks

Montgomery was one of better high ranking commanders of the British Empire so how did he fuck up Operation Market Garden so badly? The only major disaster he caused but it led to alot of good British Empire and American soldiers losing their lives. I think Sir Richard O'Connell would have been better option to lead the campaign, depending on if he wasn't in a POW camp or not at that specific point in time.

@yveaux500

Жыл бұрын

"One of the better comanders?" Except for El Alamein (where he had a huge superiority in numbers) the man caused unecessary bloodshed almost everywhere he went. Caen, de Scheldt estuary, Market Garden all failures. Most arrogant and incompetent British commander ever.

A bridge to far...

Mobile radar that didn't work.

British planning at it's most incompetent. As a result, good men died. That whole area was still a German stronghold. Didn't the British take that into consideration when they sent these good men to their deaths

@allandavis8201

3 жыл бұрын

It wasn’t the plan that was at fault, it was actually the fault of the higher ranking leadership including Montgomery, IF they had listened to the intelligence that came from the resistance then the plan COULD have worked, but NO, they put their trust in the photo recon pictures, but, as you do, the German heavy armour in the form of tanks was under cover and hidden from prying eyes in the air. It was poor leadership of the highest order, and in my opinion Montgomery was trying to show the American generals like Eisenhower, Patton and Bradly that HE was the best and most effective general in the war, not just in the European theatre of operations but in the whole world, it was an act of pride, self importance and a hatred of the aforementioned American generals, IF they had had decided to believe the resistance intel then “Market Garden” could and should have been cancelled or delayed until the German forces left the area, but that’s not what Montgomery wanted, it was folly, and I am sure and hopeful that he, and the other leadership, carried the weight of the wasted lives lost for the rest of their lives, Eisenhower, as the “supreme” commander would have to approve the plan and giving it the green light to go, and for that he should have shouldered the blame for its failure as well as Montgomery. 😀👍🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Lots of bad people come back and that is the mystery

What a waste of good men. The excuse the Dutch had in 1940 was that the country was hard to defend in modern times. The Germans sadly proved them wrong in 1944, the terrain is awful for an attacker. Please do a documentary about the Peel region later in the year. The British took over from the Yanks successfully and again it was a battle of attrition.