Churchill is like a kid who’s been getting beat up everyday at lunch and begs his bigger siblings for help. I laugh when Brits think that they defeated the Germans.

@robertcottam8824

4 ай бұрын

Vietnam! 😂😂😂😂 Cuba! 😂😂😂😂 Somalia! 😂😂😂😂 Eye-raq! 😂😂😂😂 Afghanistan! 😂😂😂 Forgive me if you’re not ‘Murcan, son but I love it when the Big-Hats-N-Banjos start a-hootin’ and a’gibberin’ ‘bout fightin’… Its just I remember knowing Yankee-Doodle-Turkey-Cocks in the 80s, in Germany, when they gobbled and strutted a lot but couldn’t fight their way out of wet paper bags… 😂😂😂😂

@francishooper9548

4 ай бұрын

The American Generals behaved like petulant children and their refusal to listen to the British cost thousands of USA troops lives in WW11. At Guadacanal their anti aircraft defences shot down more of their own planes than they did of the Japanese . In Vietnam I know the NZ troops soon learnt to ignore American intelligence reports because often the USA patrols would go a short distance from their base and on return would report no vietcong in the area they were supposed to patrol. The viet cong could smell them coming - they smoked both cigarettes and pot when on patrol and were very noisy.

@blueclover9918

3 ай бұрын

​@@robertcottam8824how would you know where he's from?

@bsaintnyc

2 ай бұрын

The british tied down huge portions of germany's airforce and navy for the entire duration of the conflict

@farhanahmed7274

2 ай бұрын

Montgomery is even funnier he reckons he won all those battles and the war on his own? fkn Pommies so entitled 🤡🤡

Тактично оправдали бомбардировку Дрездена! Браво, журналюги!

@dimakruis

4 ай бұрын

А почему не Гамбурга, не Ганновера?

@user-gj5gb7fd6n

2 ай бұрын

​@@dimakruisOr all three?

@henryseidel5469

Ай бұрын

@@dimakruis In Cologne the Americans bombed the city centre with all its civilians - but the FORD plants remained untouched - for after. Americans usually came up after the Soviets had accomplished the dirty jobs. My city was still bombed three weeks before the end - without there being any soldiers in town. Only women and children. Great liberators !!

@KenFisher-vf8vf

Ай бұрын

It was done for the Russians

Muito obrigado sempre!❤🇧🇷👍🤝

27:02 This image right here really shows, in great detail, how disturbing the slaughter truly was. It's good that we can all see it with such astonishing clarity so future generations won't repeat these crimes.

@sapulpaorganics5402

Ай бұрын

WHAT???? It's completely blurred out and can't see anything

@wingy200

Ай бұрын

@@sapulpaorganics5402 I thought I laid the sarcasm on really thick there. I guess I should have gone harder.

@sapulpaorganics5402

Ай бұрын

@@wingy200 LOL, yes you did. So much that I thought you were seeing something I didn't 😋

@umpman04

Ай бұрын

What Drugs Are You Taking ? ? ? These crimes haven't stopped since the industrial production of war material began. Now it only happens on a smaller scale so we don't have to spend the money to rebuild massive amounts of real estate ! ! That cuts into war profits. Read The Unseen Hand by Ralph Epperson, War Is A Racket by Smedley Butler. Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler by Anthony C. Sutton, Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution by Anthony C. Sutton and stop pandering to propaganda like so many other sheep ! Educate Yourself and others if you want to really help to try to avoid these heinous crimes against humanity. There's too many people drunk with distractions like professional-sports that are put out there to take our eye off the ball. EDUCATE THEM TOO ! ! It's your duty as a citizen of humanity ! !

@Alsatiagent-zu1rx

28 күн бұрын

@@wingy200 I'm just relieved they blurred out the loin cloths.

i love war documentaries specially with actual videos.

@ArnelButlig

Ай бұрын

same

@henryseidel5469

Ай бұрын

So do I. I prefer original documents to Hollywood-made scenes.

A wonderful and distinctive channel that deserves admiration and appreciation. You provide accurate, wonderful, and very useful information. A thousand greetings, great respect and great pride for these wonderful publications and distinguished efforts. I wish you lasting success. The utmost respect and appreciation.

شكرا جزيلا دائما 😢❤

A wonderful channel that deserves the best regards, appreciation, admiration and pride. It provides accurate and useful information. I thank you for all the beautiful words and sincere feelings for your distinguished posts. I wish you continued success and all the best. My utmost respect and appreciation

I'm absolutely fascinated/obsessed with WW2 documentaries!!! 😊😊😊✌️

@henryseidel5469

Ай бұрын

If they are true !! But I bet there are still many Americans who believe they had won the war at the Bridge of Remagen or in IwoJima while the Russians only raped women. Hollywood-history !

Information for those who think that the Russians only "helped".- He suffered 80% of all Wehrmacht losses in World War II on the Eastern Front. The USSR destroyed 507 divisions of the Wehrmacht, which is about 6 million soldiers. Think about this figure

@MoeHamHead-bx7og

6 ай бұрын

More like 4 million on the Eastern Front and 1 million on the Western Front, and that was because more German soldiers were placed on the Eastern Front due to the Soviet Union's size.

@slavianskiy

6 ай бұрын

@@MoeHamHead-bx7og "because more German soldiers were placed on the Eastern Front due to the Soviet Union's size." -This explains everything (sarcasm). The rest of the German soldiers simply did not fit on the western front, because there is not enough space there. are you really a military expert?

@MoeHamHead-bx7og

6 ай бұрын

@@slavianskiy No, and you definitely aren't one either. Try using some common sense - the Soviet Union covered a huge area and had a large population. Where do you think the Germans would need to place most of their forces, genius?

@user-ju7cf9iu8z

6 ай бұрын

Вы ещё забыли японскую императорскую Квантунскую Армию численностью 1 350 000 человек, которую пришлось уничтожать Советскому Союзу в августе 1945 года.

@user-ld9hx7eh8b

6 ай бұрын

@@user-ju7cf9iu8z Americans don’t like to remember this because it turns out that Americans are a bunch of cowardly incompetents...

Another good documentary.very well done and put together very nicely. I really like watching your documentaries. Thanks for sharing. Respectfully herr Dave blackburn

@liamdaletv

6 ай бұрын

Cheers for that Dave.. all the best.. Liam Dale

@manoelandreisfernandes8747

3 ай бұрын

I second that!

VERY BEAUTIFUL AND VERY CHARMING DOCUMENTARY ..

Two comments: 1. The music is ridiculous 2. Schtop saying Schtalin

@patrickandries7412

Ай бұрын

Écoutez-le en français, pas de Schtaline.

Great doc to fall asleep to.

Interesting/informative/entertaining. Excellent photography job enabling viewers to better understand what the orator is describing. Special thanks to veteran soldiers sharing personal information/experiences thru diaries. Making this documentary more authentic and possible. 😉. Enjoying this presentation from the comfort of my computer room. Along the " Space Coast "🚀of Florida 🐊🐊🐊. ( 2-10-24 ). Wishing viewers a safe/healthy/prosperous (2024) 🌈🎉😉.

If they want to show what happened they should not blur scenes.

@asullivan4047

3 ай бұрын

Don't agree with censorship ideology either.

@LegitBobsYourUncle

Ай бұрын

Its a ZOG documentary.

@Alsatiagent-zu1rx

28 күн бұрын

Many of these images were shown on Canadian television, uncensored, in the 1970s, including flame engulfed Japanese soldiers being shot as they fled their burning caves. I assume they were being done a favour and I am not trying to be amusing. Time Life published graphic horrors from the concentration camps, also uncensored. It was not traumatizing. It was enlightening, awfully so.

@jol666jol

16 күн бұрын

censorship

@ibrahimbabangida6016

15 күн бұрын

Censorship is not suppose to be ,like this things happened so why censored

Мой прадед до Берлина дошёл!

@Xapiro

2 ай бұрын

He should have stayed at home.

@generalbenjaminarrola340

2 ай бұрын

Glórias a ele, glória ao exército vermelho

@generalbenjaminarrola340

2 ай бұрын

​@@Xapiroo exército vermelho é invencível 😊

@myriamrodriguez7650

Ай бұрын

​@@XapiroNo fue cobarde como tú.

@myriamrodriguez7650

Ай бұрын

Héroe!!!!

Essa narração é incrível

❤❤Excellent documentaire.

Great documentary.

Valeu!

Thank you for sharing this documentary,but your map at 21:21 is not a map from the second world war,even not from 1914,the first word war,because in the south of balkan,there was no Turkey empire anymore from 1912 and forwards.

@mikeypiros6647

6 ай бұрын

ok, Ponce de Leon, thanks...

@nidalouachi2817

6 ай бұрын

that is exactly what i've noticed, the map is not from the years of second world war...

@indiplaymsk

5 ай бұрын

В этом видео слишком много киноляпов. На 24:30 рассказывают о вероломстве Сталина в 1945, а показывают бойцов в форме образца 1941 года.

@hdzhdz415

4 ай бұрын

Ses documentaires sont là pour déformé l'histoire réelle de la seconde guerre mondiale ne soyez pas naïf

Indeed, it is one of the best documentaries of World War 2.

You’ve gotta love this footage…!!!!!

@oldskool731

6 ай бұрын

except you cant see dead people

@liamdaletv

6 ай бұрын

@@oldskool731 Why do you NEED to see dead people.. how does that make the understanding of history greater? I don't like how this channel blurs my work, but neither do I like to read comments by people who feel the need to really look at corpses and people dying. This is a documentary not a pretend movie. Liam Dale (producer and narrator).

@blueclover9918

3 ай бұрын

The blurring keeps the reality of war from hitting home. I don't NEED to see dead people, but I also appreciate when the reality of war is shown. When people hide their heads in the sand or are kept ignorant of the experience of certain realities, it's more likely the same mistakes of war will be repeated over and over again.

All your documentaries should be in hindi also.🙏🙏🙏

What’s the fuss with Dresden’s bombing? Remember what happened to Warsaw, Leningrad, Stalingrad, etc…? Why they were not mentioned?

@henryseidel5469

28 күн бұрын

Because Warsaw and Leningrad happened in the course of war, when it was about winning or losing. Not some days before the end for the purpose of killing and destructing. See Hiroshima and Nagasaky.

@pac9764

27 күн бұрын

@@henryseidel5469 this is another myth. A war ends when there is a SURRENDER. Germans and Japanese have been losing for years … why they didn’t stop and kept returning fire? Because they were at war.

Viva ao Exército Vermelho ❤

The moral of the story is...WAR is not the answer......I thought us humans would have learned that by now...... Looks like we will never learn.

@henryseidel5469

Ай бұрын

RIGHT. Not even a little doggie will run against a tree a second time. But 'intelligent' human beings do !

Muito bom o vídeo

😅Digan lo que digan los gringos el glorioso ejercito ruso gano la WWII.

Documentário muito bom 👏🏼💯

Good doco

The Soviets*, not russians exclusively.

@user-gj5gb7fd6n

2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much Captain obvious.😆😆😆

@speakerb

2 ай бұрын

@@user-gj5gb7fd6n unfortunately not so obvious for many.

Alemanha era foda, lutou quase sozinha contra todas potências mundiais e ainda humilhou a França e quase meteu de joelhos a União Soviética

@alexcesaralves536

3 ай бұрын

*eram uns demônios!*

@eduardodamiao160

3 ай бұрын

Caso a Alemanha atacasse somente a União Soviética iriam ganhar, caso os Estados Unidos, França, Inglaterra entre outros aliados batesse de frente com a Alemanha iria perder também 😂😂😂 a única diferença era que a União Soviética bateu de frente contra a Alemanha, Bulgária, Finlândia entre outros países sozinhos 😂😂😂😂

Never, never sbustime le people russe. Ils sont nacionaliste e tres valient.

So IKE, against the advice and wishes of Churchill decided that Berlin was no longer an objective of the US, sent a note to Stalin and gave him the go ahead to deal with Berlin himself. What was the outcome? Answer, A divided Berlin, East & West, a divided Germany, East and West. Then, years of a Cold War between the West and Soviet Union.

Flame throwers and phosphorus, damn

6:23 Gen. MacArthur shown in the Philippines with his chief of staff Lt. Col. Eisenhower.

Ein sehr interessante Doku 👌🏻👍🏻

*que narração; que momento negro da humanidade!*

It’s unbelievable that a build up of German forces could happen Again in the Arden and Ike not knowing abt it.

@gonzalesfrederic6213

6 ай бұрын

No drones, no satellites, and ... though they were extant, no spies present where intelligence could be gotten. Also, everybody thought that the last German forces would dedicate all that was left to slowing the Soviets.

A man told a true,the German army loss 5 or 6 million soldiers fought against USSR,but the Russian more 8 or 9

@bunkerkorpf1440

4 ай бұрын

Around half of soviet soldiers losses (not "russians") were due to the fact that nazis killed around 60% of soviet soldier who surrendered, especially the millions captured in 1941

Europe did not learn anything - unbelievable!!

@redemption8980

6 ай бұрын

they never!

@stevehockley5036

6 ай бұрын

Still haven't

@stingingmetal9648

6 ай бұрын

Ukraine is losing. Europe is losing. USA is losing.

@CraigLee-vo9my

6 ай бұрын

Why do you say that? What should had learned?

@hymen2393

6 ай бұрын

Why not? Since the end of the second world war, there were no more wars between the great european powers. That is the longest timespan in the last couple thousand years!

it might be better to leave it black and white if this is the best colorization you have available

Good

t This is excellent for french language learning the french captions and speech are perfect together in this video, but the portuguese captions and speech not so much.

Melhor narrador e a melodia ao fundo top

@MUNDO.LOUCO_2

3 ай бұрын

Não o melhor narrador e o que faz a dublagem do documentário (Redescobrindo a segunda) , se não ja assistiu de uma olhada na dublagem e na melodia!

better than NETFLIX

@chronicillz1879

6 ай бұрын

definitely, but not better than HBO

@-BUILT_LIKE_A_BAG_OF_MILK

6 ай бұрын

Netflix isn't a high bar.

amo esto

The fire bombings don't bother me one bit. I'm 83 years old. I lived through the entire war. Germany declared war. on the US. Japan. chose a sneak attack. After the A bomb, my Dad came home. Many of my friends' Dads didn't . I notice a bit of bias in his discussion about Dresden. But that's ok. A very good video. You do excellent work. Thank you

@liamdaletv

6 ай бұрын

Dresden.. not an easy call. I TRY not to judge in my work.. all the best.. Liam Dale

@kosmokritikos9299

5 ай бұрын

The bombing of Dresden was an atrocity aimed at civilians and anyone so cruel in the deepest recesses of their icy heart as to glorify it is atrocious.

@donparky1812

5 ай бұрын

The US knew about the Japan's plan about the attack on Pearl Habour.

@christopherhall3894

5 ай бұрын

Speak for yourself. You clearly have no appreciation, understanding or respect of western civilization. I have no doubt you have no knowledge of the architects, craftsmen, painters, sculptors and architecture over centuries in places like Dresden, Wurzburg, Potsdam and many others. Even English Kenneth Clark in his book Civilization, stated how appalling what happened to Dresden was. You must take great happiness at the endless list of destroyed churches, cathedrals, palaces, etc. etc. And, the ugly rebuilding after the war to drives the destruction home even more. Wipe out any memory of what once was. Congratulations on being delighted that all of it is gone. And yes, I know all about what the Nazis did to Warsaw, Leningrad, etc. And I have never, ever, forgotten about our brave American boys who fought and died for freedom. The firebombings brought the level of the allies down to that equal to the Nazis. As I said, Speak for yourself.

@liamdaletv

5 ай бұрын

@@christopherhall3894 Yes... as above, Dresden writing not an easy call. Sometimes I've considered writing a bespoke documentary on it.. but it's a hard "justification" for the bombing. Cheers.. Liam Dale (Producer/narrator).

muito bom

Who is "Shtalin"?

Не только русские, казахи и остальные советские - тоже.

@user-is2vd2ly6z

4 ай бұрын

СССР!

Не русские а советские, без других национальностей русские поиграли бы первые годы войны

@henryseidel5469

Ай бұрын

Do not forget the Finns (Mannerheim), Norvegians (Quisling), Hungarians (Horthy), Slovakians (Tisso), Italians (Mussolini) and Romanians (Antonescu) were on Hitler's side as long as they expected a piece of the cake. That is exactly why Stalin insisted on keeping a buffer zone of influence in Eastern Europe after the war.

17:50 - Quais ressentimentos antigos? Entre EUA e Inglaterra? Não ficou claro 18:03 - Eisenhower ordenou que Montgomery assumisse o comando de todas as forças britânicas e norte-americanas no lado norte do bolsão 18:52 - Não faz sentido os norte-americanos terem se aborrecido com Montgomery no comando pois ele não se auto-promoveu, quem colocou ele no comando foi Eisenhower, e por sinal Montgomery trouxe estabilidade no norte do bolsão, ou seja, fez um bom trabalho que fora designado à ele pelos norte-americanos

The title lies to you!

Il me semble que le titre est plutot: "Apocalypse 2eme guerre mondiale en couleur" Episode ???... Isn't it...??? Donc déjà vu sur d autres chaines youtube...

como era boa essa narracao

I have two grandfathers who fought for the Wehrmacht and spent five years in Russian gulags after the war and came back all puffed up like balloons . Make no mistake they weren’t that way because they were being fed well but because all the reds kept stuffing into them was a shit load of bread and water ! Ironically on the best side of my family tree which is on my Mom’s side and that’s the one I cherish and value the most and that is that I have Judaic blood in me because my mom’s grandmother was full blooded Jewish and I wish I was a 100% !!!!!

Russia has captured oil of Nazy in Romania and Hungary and coal + iron in Silesia, so that was German defeated !

So much about how the west didnt get to Berlin and not enough about how the russians got there and took it alone . How far did an allied leader have to drive for the surrender from the front lines again?

@r.w.bottorff7735

2 ай бұрын

Yes, history records that the soviets dealt the decisive blow to Nazi Germany... unfortunately, they also dealt the decisive blow to "it's" half of Poland alongside Germany the previous year, and attempted to with Finland. Worse still, when the soviets reached Berlin, they unleashed a wave of rape and atrocity on the German citizenry that you'd be hard pressed to justify. Maybe that's why the emphasis is on the other allies, because we can't fairly examine the triumphs of Soviet Russia without also examining it's abuses. The other allies ALSO committed war crimes, but no where near the level of the red army under Stalin. I'd bet THAT is why this program is framed the way it is. The Polish will never forget the massacre at Katyn at the hands of the red army and the NKVD.

os verdadeiros heróis exercito vermelho

What’s the point of the blurring, how are you supposed to understand how serious it was when you can’t see it.

Ótima reportagem, parabéns Americanos teve boa participação da vitória Russas

@generalbenjaminarrola340

2 ай бұрын

Pufff😂

Не было России !? Не было Англии и США!

When you sow the wind be prepared to reap the whirlwind

muitas perdas

@foliagetree

2 ай бұрын

Check out my comment

At first I thought it was the recent news))

I expected to see "The Russians advanced towards Germany" and instead I was watching the whole WWII history from the point of Battle of Bulge.

@henryseidel5469

28 күн бұрын

Indeed the landing at Normandy is shown by the media a million times, but hardly anyone shows what happened between Stalingrad, Leningrad and Berlin. Selective perception !

19:45 The more I read/hear about Monty, he becomes more and more of a Pratt!

😮😮

The caption text doesn't match the narration AT ALL! What is up with that?

0 pvo Russo sao parecidos com o povo brasileiro aguerrido e corajosos

Where's the Russians ???

لماذا لم تعد المانيا بهذه القوة العسكرية هذه ولم يعد لهم عزيمة رجال التي كانت لهم قديما

@Castleheights20s

2 ай бұрын

Because they got wiped out and they suffer still today

@user-dm8vl4wx8c

Ай бұрын

Пьют слишком много пива.

The Americans and British were happy to let the Soviets take Berlin. With good reason the Soviets lost more men just taking Berlin than USA lost in ENTIRE war

@Stren_bk

4 ай бұрын

Fake. The USSR lost about 80 thousand killed in the Berlin operation, against almost 800 thousand killed by the USA and Britain in the war.

Ist es schon wieder soweit? Schatz, wir müssen packen! 👀

I tried my best to listen to the whole thing but i could barely hear the poor narrator. The strange Halloween music 2/3 into the video ended it for me, too obnoxious. I love this videos, wish you'd turn down that background (more like foreground) music.

Eu nunca tinha visto vídeos de guerras reais agora sim tive a onra de saber como é uma guerra de verdade fiquei comedo de mais quantas vidas se perderam im from brazilian 😢😢😢😢😢😢

@thegreatone11

Ай бұрын

Hi, I'm from the 🇺🇸

Если бы не русские Европа в подавляющем большинстве своём , была бы в печах Освенцима.

24:48 Guy had airpods before it was cool.

Trele morele wygrane na czyimś nieszczęściu to domena zdradków

Still can’t tell the difference between rushin and soviet …. Yes it matters , even if there are still people yattering on about related subjects that still don’t get it . Are the Scot’s , welsh , Irish dnd other such like English? It really is that simple . Orwell tried explaining that to his fellow English in the thirties …..

@CLARKE176

6 ай бұрын

They’re all British apart from the Irish.

@candlesinwoodenroom4888

3 ай бұрын

​​@@CLARKE176 my god these westerners.... Yeah, and they are all soviets. British= Soviet English= Russian And even then its not equal in reality. Because soviet union was highly againts different ethnicities and religions, so a kazakh was as soviet as a russian. Stalin was georgian, lenin himself was half tatar(kinda turkic. There were azerbaijani generals even.... it isnt simple.

"Основные цели СССР в Польше, это - западные земли Селезии богатые углем". А какие цели были у американцев в другом полушарии земли???

@Sirotomin

4 ай бұрын

бананы

Mes honneurs pour la 101 division aéroportés. Et la 82e division.

نرجو ترجمه فلم اللغه العربيه

Взять Берлин раньше союзников - это была не мечта Сталина. это родилось в народе ещё зимой 41 года , когда Гитлеровцев отбросили от Москвы. Но всерьез все восприняли это, как ключевую цель летом 1943 года, когда была освобождена граница СССР. Русские не первый и не последний раз доходят до старицы нападающего государства. Конкретно Берлин русские брали уже второй раз за свою историю. Translate

Stalingrad was the battle that determined the lose of the Hitler’s war.

@henryseidel5469

Ай бұрын

But don't forget the Nazis had marched there destroying the country and its people. After killing almost a million at Leningrad - by siege.

Германия и США и сейчас суют свой нос на Тайване и в Емене, далеко от своих границ,разжигая 3 мировую. И помогают возражать фашизм на границах россии.а Англия дала указания вести войну против России.

Os russos enfrentaram as piores batalhas.

Soviéticos brabos demais!!

Os corajosos defensores de Berlim ,deram trabalhos para os aliados ,com pouco recursos e a maioria dos soldados eram inexperientes.

⚡

They did not bomb iwo Jima for weeks it's was a few days

И вот такая благодарность России и всему советскому народу, вся Европа и США объединились против России,из за того ,что Россия бориться с возрождением фашизма.и несправедливостью в мире.

@user-is2vd2ly6z

4 ай бұрын

Им не понять. Они тупые! И поможет им только Грибок,как бы не жалко было нормальных людей. Но такие уроды что так переворачивают историю и организуют войны должны сгореть!

2024: chamar a URSS composta por 14~18 países durante seus 70 anos, de Rússia, se for historiador que posta, tenho certeza que nem mestrado um bicho desse tem, que posta conteúdo que nem entende o contexto.

What's the point in showing photos and film if you blur them completely out. Just don't show them!!

Why don't you put a translation in Arabic?

C'est bien dommage que les alliés aient gagné

I get sick of every documentary referring to the war against the Nazis , the Nazis were just a part of the german population , the allies were fighting against Germany and its allies , the Nazis were not a different country although that is what all the media would like us to think.

@pac9764

5 ай бұрын

Very pointed observation… the atrocities were not only Hitler’s or Nazi’s. They were all Germans and supported by the population

@henryseidel5469

28 күн бұрын

@@pac9764 Do you also think the people at Hiroshima and Nagasaky were killed by some Texan farmers ?? The population was happy when the whole shit was over.

@pac9764

27 күн бұрын

@@henryseidel5469 Not my point. No one says the Democrats or Truman dropped the A-bombs - we, the Americans did. The germans invaded the USSR. The germans committed the atrocities - not just the so-called “Nazis”

@henryseidel5469

27 күн бұрын

@@pac9764 You are right, it is always a whole country that is considered to be responsible. It was 'the Americans' that killed three million people in Vietnam....not a handful of politicians from Oval Office. Yet this kind of approach is wrong but has become a habit to make historiography more evident and manipulative. Was it 'the Americans' that killed their own indigenous people ? I think we should be a bit more careful about describing history for it is usually more complicated than the brains of some sensationalists.....that call themselves 'journalists'.