I feel like a lot of people missed it, so I just wanted to point something out: the elderly couple at the jail in Liberio were grandparents of Zeke and Eren. After Zeke betrayed Marley, his grandparents obviously lost their titles of honorary Marleyans and were thrown into prison.

@user-uu1hv8nv6i

Жыл бұрын

I feel sad for Annie and Airmin l hope she will happy with him 😢

@thelegacyofgaming2928

9 ай бұрын

@@user-uu1hv8nv6i ?

Just so you guys know, this episode covers 4 chapters, 131-134, not 2 chapters. It's just that they decided to split up this animated special into two 'chapters' -- 131&132 was the first 'chapter,' and 133&134 were the second 'chapter.' So all that's left to cover is chapters 135-139, which is 5 chapters, and we're guessing it'll take a little longer than an hour to cover all that.

@__Krystal__

Жыл бұрын

This ⬆️

@momame8258

Жыл бұрын

They didn’t adapt 134 fully tho. The first half gonna be in the next part probably

@slobertooth1358

Жыл бұрын

80 percent of that chuck of chapters is just action, they'll fly by that.

@patatebanine4278

Жыл бұрын

Also, they removed a dozen of pages of the chapter 134. We will probably see those pages (Historia's maternity and the rumbling 2.0 with the baby scene) in the cour 2

@imshubhajit

Жыл бұрын

134 not completely... They did 3.5 chapters total... The next TV special should be 1hr15mins in length or slightly more in runtime, that's all that is required.

Moblit pulling Hange up was everything.

@dtmt502

Жыл бұрын

it would have been cool if Hange mentioned his name

@aniket8350

Жыл бұрын

Always had her back

@jatinchanchlani8982

Жыл бұрын

Poetic in a way moblit was the one who was holding her hand during maria fight when bertholt transformed and died protecting her. Now welcoming holding her hand in heaven ❤️

@dearthofdoohickeys4703

Жыл бұрын

I wish he told her she was being too reckless, but it would’ve ruined the moment lol

@dinowibisono99

Жыл бұрын

Isayama really missed a golden opportunity there to have Hange gets her left eye back in the afterlife. The last and first thing her left eye sees would be Moblit.

24:01 The way you all feel silent when Hanji exploded. The whole room: SHOOK

The thing I don't see mentioned often and I think it is at the absolute core of the show is that it isn't even about Eldians, everyone so concern about the Titan problem and how to end that, but without Eldians, humans will find other ways to be in the same position of hate and destruction. This is why characters like Armin gets it, it is about empathy, coexisting and constant dialogue, there is no single solution you execute to magically get long lasting peace, it is a constant effort.

@DECENTcrew

Жыл бұрын

It is easy to put blame on a common oppressor. Remember WW2? who was the bad guy for everbody? Nazis. But that doesn't change the fact that "good guys" sent two nukes to a country and wiped away their citizens. As long as humanity exists there will always be conflict always people with no empathy and lust for power, this cannot change. So the solution is to wipe out or control a race that has the power to oppress others very easily, like becoming a Titan. So the only solution is to wipe out one side so everyone would be in equal grounds even if there is conflict in the future...

@aureliamonap

Жыл бұрын

The oriental woman, whose name I don't remember, said that too. When floch told her they were getting rid of all their enemies she said they would still have conflicts, they were just "shrinking the world".

@wordsoflove8787

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! The most underrated character in the series despite being so pivotal for it thematically!

@josecastanon3681

Жыл бұрын

In short, it's the cycle of human hate

@luckboy6886

11 ай бұрын

my man talking like he in an anime

The Rumbling is here. RIP Hange and Floch! We censored some stuff in case KZread Adsense gets angry. They have been angry at us a lot lately. ***NOTE: We had to mute the audio at the Mikasa and Annie scene due to copyright. It's about 40 seconds. Thanks for understanding!

@AvatarTheLastPodcasters

Жыл бұрын

People say Eren is in the wrong but never come up with a solution that doesn't result in the Genocide of Eldia. There is no right or wrong, there is only your perspective. The point of the story is to communicate before it comes to this.

@upvotecomment2110

Жыл бұрын

Normies Sub crew was the best!

@Abhinab_Roy

Жыл бұрын

No Spoilers This 1-hour episode adapted 4 Manga Chapters not 2 So S4 Part 3-Part 2 will adapt remaining 5 Manga Chapters, therefore a 1.5-hour special episode will be enough

@neardarkroad1347

Жыл бұрын

Eren VA, Yuki Kaji tweet the next part is the last time. so, yes, we will finally have freedom in the fall.

@neardarkroad1347

Жыл бұрын

@The Normies, if you are aching for anime that gives almost same dread as AOT, try 86. Its have the same composers of AOT final season, Sawano and Yamamoto. -they have similar common enemy that threaten the whole world. - they have conflicting moral dilemma -they have badasses - sadly, their version of "TATAKAE" is not from protagonist but the antagonist.

You know you made a good show when people remember all the side characters' name.

@AlejandroMeridaDropTheLimits

Жыл бұрын

fkn true

@sebastianvilla2413

10 ай бұрын

The greatest 🙌

Hange made me cry a lot but honestly my heart is most broken for Levi, who lost everyone he loved and cared about and as humanity's strongest can barely hold his gear now.

29:38 "To discuss the fact that there's no need to have a discussion." So Eren just said "DID I STUTTER?"

Idk why but when Armin yelled “EREN” I got the meanest goosebumps

"Germany committed atrocities" "I know they did, and they got taxed heavily for that" "We committed atrocities" "I know we did and .. they let us get away with that tho" I'M HOLLERING LMAOOO

@thelegacyofgaming2928

9 ай бұрын

Almost like the reality of "whoever comes out on top, is the winner". Germany didn't come out on top, U.S. did. Guess who got to prosper? And no, there was no "talks" that magically resulted in everyone living happily ever after 😂

@droson8712

4 ай бұрын

It's sad because it's true

seeing marketa trying to hold back her reaction was entertaining. everybody else wondering what is about to happen and she just smiles. it was really fun to watch you guys.

@yas7689

Жыл бұрын

did marketa read the manga already?

@jaws9116

Жыл бұрын

​@@yas7689 i was wondering the same but yeah i think she did

@Raddahgon

Жыл бұрын

@@yas7689 She did. She got tired of waiting after one of the seasons ended. She gave her opinion on it in a book club video about a year ago, she said.

@Shurororu

Жыл бұрын

@@Raddahgon she finished it then? She likes that end ? Lmao

@KeangoDLuke

Жыл бұрын

​@@Shurororu lol, why is that so shocking. Very many people liked the ending

I really liked Marketa's input during the discussion. Also I'm not surprised Suraj missed reacting with the OG AoT reaction crew. The dub crew feels like watching a dad react with his kids 😂.

@user-uu1hv8nv6i

Жыл бұрын

Rianer and ainne and Jon are poor people l like them nver give us ❤

To answer Marketa's question, fighting and action scenes are adapted way faster than dialogue heavy chapters due to their fast pace. For example, you could turn AT MOST 1 and a half chapters of heavy dialogue Into a 20 minute ep, while for the action heavy ones, you could even stuff up to 3 chapters per episode sometimes.

@erikstrickland96

Жыл бұрын

Very true. I was thinking the exact same thing. While this battle will be extremely cool, it can’t be longer than half an hour or my eyes would fall out 😂

@evgenkhersonets880

Жыл бұрын

It depends on the manga also. If it's Jujutsu Kaisen, for example, then it can be up to 4 chapters of action per episode. But if it's JoJo, then the pacing is gonna be faster.

@dariusradu2369

Жыл бұрын

@@evgenkhersonets880 Yeah, you could do more for jjk of course, because a jjk chapter has only half the pages an AoT chapter has. Same for every other weekly series.

@eclipsewaves

Жыл бұрын

It's similar to OPM manga. Murata managed to stretch Tatsumaki vs Psykos Orochi fight into like what? 30 chapters or something?

To correct Marketta’s statement, this episode actually adapted Chapters 131-134, leaving us with only 5 left. 4/5 of those are straight action so I’d imagine it wouldn’t be too difficult to finish in an hour+

@projectomnia1997

Жыл бұрын

No one should ever listen to Marketta. Should have been Navi that read it.

@kairostimeYT

Жыл бұрын

@@projectomnia1997 wdym? Marketa's explanation of Eren's situation was pretty good.

@dejisauce6025

Жыл бұрын

@@projectomnia1997 She did a great job, did you not watch the reaction

@keno4770

Жыл бұрын

@@projectomnia1997 marketta’s a very insightful reader and she’s able to provide a lot of perspective for the crew you’re just an ass

@firionkaiser8291

Жыл бұрын

​@@dejisauce6025 They're just hatin

When Levi said Shinzou wo Sasageyo, I got chills!! And the The wall titans are literally the perfect weapons for Eren as they Just Keep Moving Forward no matter what!!

On the theme of children making mistakes in war, it contributes to one of the themes being to "keep the children out of the forest" like Sasha's dad expressed when given the chance to avenge his daughter.

Honestly the Attack on Titan OST is the greatest soundtrack I've heard I genuinely just describe the amount of emotions I feel from it... 😭

Honestly I'm not too upset about the wait because the animation in this special was insane. I get why it's taking time to do these.

I sobbed with Hange too guys. The animation is spectacular and her send off was epic. She went out like a boss! 💔🥲

Thank you Mappa y’all made me cry watching this 🥲 y’all did Hange Justice. I love Attack on Titan!!

@thelegacyofgaming2928

9 ай бұрын

Wit and Mappa created a masterpiece

“If I’m a Eldian, Ima just start praying to this thing” 😂😂😂

Love the discussion about freedom guys. The way the show depicts it in every character, but especially Eren with the paths and The Rumbling is what makes it so special for me.

This episode adapted from chapter 131 to 134, some scenes from chapter 134 were missing that I believe were left for the next episode, so there were 4 chapters, only 5 chapters were missing.

@mohamedelhediissa289

Жыл бұрын

I don't think we will see most of the 134 rumbling We got new scenes to make up for it and as of now we already got past that point, it will be weird if they stop everything to go back and show more of the rumbling (especially when they already showed alot like burning bodies, decapitated heads and limbs, crying children, babies and families and suicide and people fighting over a car I feel like all of that makes up for everything 134 has to offer except like the baby scene)

@boi1127

Жыл бұрын

​@@mohamedelhediissa289 nahh thay gotta do it, its the most iconic rumbling panel

@samwilson4597

Жыл бұрын

are u counting the very last chapter

Marketa already tearing up at the start when she sees Ramzi because she knows what's about to happen hits hard.

I’m very satisfied that you guys actually had a well thought & diverse discussion on this episode and show. This is like my 3rd watched reaction of this episode & I’ve waited on this, like the questioning of our morality and thinking deserves to be discussed with this show & all its intricacies. Thank you

That shot the FREAKING SHOT of are Alliance Squad in the clouds arriving to fight Eren with Splinter Wolf so freaking goood. Even get to hear the lyrics with the funny moment of Reiner transforming getting yeah I’m soo pretty haha. As many have pointed how the Fire animation of the Hange scene with additional kills compared to the manga. Finally seeing Eren’s perspective of the runmbling with the intense guilt. The Parallels of Eren and Reiner confessions. Annie and Mikasa moment. Eren’s Actor killing it as always. It been a pleasure watching it with you Manga readers, anime onlys, anime-day oneers, newbies, and more. Regardless of how the next half is like we can all acknowledge MAPPA for giving such a wonderful adaptation. See y’all when the dub drops and in the fall for the last episode of AOT!!!!

I literally just finished watching this episode!!! The rest of this season is gonna MURDER ME!!!

I love how I can't predict this story there was no way I saw Hange taking out more than 2 colossal titans in my mind because of the thunder spears but holy shit was I proven wrong what an absolute true commander Hange had become shouldering the weight of her people in a single moment as those before have just wow the technique needed the power momentum and rotational force of the 3D manoeuvre gear to slice a colossal titans nape and damn MAPPA WENT TF OFF!!! absolutely GOATED 🐐

After this episode the opening of s4 part 1 make so much sense. Children cling to their very last coins, angels in disguise with devils face, and right at the end monster, monster, monster, monster, as it pans to the attack titan

Marketas face watching knowing whats gonna happen is hilarious. Thats me watching with my friends

The ending Akuma no Ko kinda explains Eren as a whole. He's been fated to start the rumbling since birth and he cant change it. He was born to become a devil hence the song's title being Akuma no Ko (Child of the Devil).

@MishaHusnainAli

Жыл бұрын

Well, the world made the Eldian and especially the Paradis Eldians "the Devils" by treating and calling them that. Eren is the child of the devil/evil, so that hatred coming back to reflect on those who have been serving it. Absolutely out of line killing billions, but still he's the product of the world he was born in.

Ramzi and eren conversation gives us more perspective on his thoughts leading up to doing the rumbling. And he wished for it to happen.

This Special Episode of AoT was truly amazing you guys. 👍 They knocked it out of the park. Great stuff. The Rumbling was really terrifying. Hange's sacrifice was heartbreaking ✊ and animated so well. And the ending sequence was insane. Thanks be to MAPPA. And Thank You for the reaction! ♥

14:35 Annie and Armin sitting in a tree~ K I S S I N G First comes murder, then comes traitor, then comes sittin' in a crystal for later!

@erlindaalba1682

Жыл бұрын

Wtf?

I really liked listening to Marketa's view on/explanation of Eren's thoughts and actions and the way he experiences time, I feel like she did a really good job explaining how she interpreted certain things without giving spoilers for the final chapters

Fun fact: the Marleyan continent is actually…Africa! The AoT world map is our world map but flipped upside down, and Paradis is Madagascar. You can see this in this episode in the flashback when Yelena is showing Eren where the Marleyan airship base is. It’s Africa upside down! Another side note, this is interesting because their world history is also “flipped” compared to ours. The Marleyans are essentially the old Romans, and the Eldians are the old Germanic tribes (this is evidenced by their last names…Marleyans have Italian names while the Eldians have German names…food, culture, and in the Ymir origin flashback, their military uniforms.) In our world history, the Romans conquered and enslaved the Germanic tribes, however in this “flipped” world of AoT, the Germanic tribes stumbled upon the power of the Titans, and subsequently won those wars/battles against the “Romans”. There’s a whole lot more trivia to this show, especially pertaining to Norse mythology, but this comment is long enough already.

My man Levi won't even tear up eventhough know he is breaking inside..he truly deserves the title "Humanity's greatest soldier"🔥

Man during this episode I kept getting stuff in my eye..... I wasn't crying I promise.

Hange went out in the most literal way anyone can go in a blaze of glory

i was sobbing a lot of the time but when they reunited hange with moblit, i just lost it 😭 rip hange 🙏🏼

I’M SOOO PROUD! Splinter Wolf was playing during the entrance of The Alliances (Onyankopon trying to control the flying boat and them arriving at Eren exactly in Fort Salta) GOOSEBUMPS!!! So good to hear Splinter Wolf 🫀✊🏻🔥

This was beautifully done. MAPPA has truly killed it. So much love and effort was put into this series. The Hange scene, Even the Eren and Ramzi scene. Everything is just so beautifully done.

a Cinema LEVEL omg! ❤ Everything animated and paced perfectly! And the ost ❤ And the facial Expressions! They really outdone themselves.. *MASTERPIECE!*

Been waiting for this!!! This episode was tremendous...I don't even remember the last time a show made me whimper out loud, and ofc so much crying. Can't wait to relive this ep with you Normies!! Also can't wait to do it all over again with the dub crew!

After this special,Eren cemented himself into my top 3 favourite MC's.

@user-lt5dg1ix6u

Жыл бұрын

Top 1

@TrideepNagg

Жыл бұрын

For 10 years at least?

@shinkounova8485

Жыл бұрын

The ending will unfortunately change that

@brionac2903

Жыл бұрын

Won't last long sadly

@crowzero7187

Жыл бұрын

​@@shinkounova8485 depends on the perspective boy! I still love him! ❤

“Just keep feeding it to me , I don’t even care” 😂😂😂

They covered 4 chapters in this first part 131-134. There are five chapters(135-139) left to adapt in the last part unless they decide to change things(aoe). That being said this special was so good and the Hange sacrifice had me in my feels. Waiting until fall is way too long

This is like going on the best date of your life and the person ending it with, "Alright, see ya in 7ish months!"

im really impressed by your discussion here, proving you deserve to be one of the top channels fr

I liked the ending too. It was a bit rushed, but ultimately I think it was true to the characters and the story. Isayama is Goated

With regards to the discussion of fate vs will, and most stories that tackle this topic reach the same conclusion: we willingly "follow" our destinies. Will and fate are not opposites, fate is just basically the result of our will, and if we started over again, with no knowledge of our previous lives and scenarios, we would make the exact same decisions, over and over again, because that's who we are. When asking which came first (his will or his fate?) I don't think it's an unsolvable paradox, the answer is actually his will. Time, in this case, is indeed circular, because when Eren visited the "past" and talked to his father, that needed to already have happened, which needed for the future to have happened, and so on. So there is indeed a loop, and it really has no starting point, but the key to the question is not the starting point of the loop, but actually what makes it MOVE in the direction it does. And that is his will. We shouldn't feel that because of the time "paradox" it wasn't his choice. It's the exact opposite. It always has been his choice and it always will be.

@kurtispowers5776

Жыл бұрын

thank u, eren does everything because he wants to, he saw the visions he saw because that was what he wanted and that was the only possible future given eren insatiable drive for his ideal, “freedom”

@anepicjourney

Жыл бұрын

@@kurtispowers5776 Exactly. I don't like people making excuses to feel sorry for him as if he only did it because he saw it in the future memories. He didn't do it because it was his fate, it was the opposite, that was his fate because he wanted it to be.

5 Chapters are remaining to be covered and they alone contain the Greatest animation required more than the whole Season 4 so It'll definitely take time to animate. That's why we will have to wait again for 7-8 months and I'm Damn sure the Last Episode will be 1hr 30min at least. The whole Mappa team has my Respect for dedicating their heart and providing movie level animation in this fkd up schedule 🛐

Great reaction and great discussion guys. One of the best vids you’ve guys had.

That "freedom" from eren's perspective is so twisted but kinda charismatic to his character

I had very high expectations and they really blew them all away. Definitely worth the wait and the hype

I like to think that the scene from the first ep was future Eren trying to show his kid self everything that was going to happen, maybe to try and see if that would give him enough time to find a solution to change the future. But kid Eren was only able to interpret it as a long dream, even tho deep down he was crying because of what his future self just showed him

they covered 4 chapters btw not 2, they just fused 4 into 2 for the anime. so theres 5 more chapters to cover.

I really like that we get some of Eren's thoughts again. I really missed that for the first two parts of season 4. Knowing something of his state of mind gives a whole other dimension

y'all say that you would go with the zeke's plan but then the world also wants Paradis' resources. They will never leave them alone

"We finally made it.. to this view. What do you think, Armin?" At that point, Eren had already visited each of his friends and said his goodbyes 😔

marketa's trying SO hard to be careful with her words to not spoil them, i feel you girl, i've been there before

Everyone is always horrified by Eren here but… as you said, “they caused this”. Exactly.

Hanges scene almost brought me to tears and I haven’t cried in years 😭

9:25 The whole point is that they brought that to themselves. Silently enjoying their "peace" while aiming their anger towards innocents. And it all came back to bite them in the ass.

I think a true testament to how good the anime is is the fact that, even having finished the manga a year ago, I'm still tearing up at pretty much every scene. Knowing how this ends isn't making it any easier.

What an amazing post discussion. Well done Normies!

I think Chris's interpretation of Eren's freedom within the time stuff is the best. It's only predetermined because he knows he'll want to make the same choice again.

"Why Eren, why couldn't you do a soft rumbling?" Because the soft rumbling relies on Historia breeding kids for the sole purpose of slaughter in order to maintain the power of the Founder? People always seem to forget that.

@lumi3333

Жыл бұрын

They also forget the whole problem of the world becoming to advanced for a rumbling to even be productive

@bigbywolf1330

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. A soft Rumbling as what the fifty year plan was suppose to do. Cause financial issues but blackmail the world. It wasn’t gonna stop and technology was advancing. Given this set in the early 1900s based on technology, decades after you have jets, tanks, increase numbers of battleships, submarines, or a nuclear bomb. All that will leave the Rumbling obsolete.

This essentially brings us current through the end of chapter 134 of the manga, out of 139 chapters, and most of what's left is action sequences, so I'm feeling confident they can get it wrapped up with the second half. It's gonna be close though, there's so much still to get through.

I just love the intro haha u guys are amazing! And awesome react as aways!

wow, their reaction to the rumbling and Ramzi was very genuine and relatable. I love Marketa's reaction to Hange. I usually have the same reactions as her.

I cried too when I watched chapter 1. It was so heartbreaking. The destruction of rumbling, all those people dying, the kids and Hange. But at least we got to see all the fallen scouts/veterans. Shinzou Wo Sasageyo!!!

1:06:00 It's worth acknowledging Annie's point isn't just giving up to depression. It's a pretty fundamental question: I'm tired of killing people and fighting. Why should I go kill and fight for a world that will likely kill me after that? Keep in mind Marley treats Eldians _better_ than everywhere else in the world. Given she believes her father is already dead, you can't really blame her for not wanting to get involved in stopping Eren's omnicide when she honestly thinks that it will just lead to a genocide of the Eldians.

Suraj is such an AOT fan and I love it.

I’m so Excited for this episode thank you normies for uploading this

*Key things to note for the next part: (No spoilers below)* 1. That initial scene with Mikasa saying goodbye was in the first chapter of the manga but for some reason, it was removed in the anime version. 2. Note that Eren doesn't have a definite "overarching" reason to initiate rumbling. He just saw bits and pieces of the the future where he would initiate it. However, no matter how many options he tried out, things happened exactly the way they did in the memories at the end. Just like all the other founding titans across time (the royal family, ymir, etc.), he too was a slave to time. In a way, you could think that time used Eren and all the other founding titans in the form of hallucigenia to change its own course; free will doesn't exist in AOT universe. 3. Eren doesn't know the specific details behind his memories. For example, Eren saw that one golden flower with blood spilled over it in one of his memories. Well, that could be that flower with his mom's blood when she died, flower present during Hannes' death or flower Ymir Fritz looked at when she was severely wounded. So, he has to live his present out to deduce which time he is at, since he has most of the memories from the start to the end, in a puzzling fashion. He might not be able to recall his memories in the moment accurately either. This is starting to sound more and more like dementia now. 4. Every eldian is connected to another if they are close enough in some way (through blood relations, contact or rarely mere thoughts). This is why people can even unlock other people's memories (especially in the case of titan shifters) but we saw Falco seeing visions of soaring across the sky in S4P1 and Reiner getting random visions of Falco and Gabi in Paradis. Historia saw Ymir's past and her being eaten by porco galliard just by touching the letter. Porco unlocked Marcel's memories by touching Reiner. 5. _"It's as if all the Subjects of Ymir are connected by something we can't see. One inheritor said they saw paths. The blood and bones that form a Titan, and at times, even memories and thoughts are sent through those paths. All the paths cross at a single coordinate. That's the Founding Titan. Every single Subject of Ymir is connected to that coordinate."_ Mikasa, Armin, Jean and Connie cannot just run towards Eren and get to that single coordinate because they are not founding titans. Paths transcend physical space and time. 6. In "Two Brothers" episode, when Eren enters the paths, he sees memories of various different things; some which are not even related to him. In one such memory (if you pause it at the right moment), he saw Falco using modified Jaw Titan flying to Fort Salta. 7. The ending credits is clearly about Mikasa. We saw black screen at first. Then, we saw Mikasa walking slowly over a patch of grass with rocks and pebbles here and there. Then, with Mikasa walking in the background, we saw a tree on a hill. We can infer that she is walking "towards the tree on that hill". This happens to be the title of the final manga chapter. I doubt this is a coincidence. 8. In an episode called "Outside the Walls of Orvud District" (from Season 3), you could see Eren's skeletal titan form for the first time; I think that it was supposed to be a vague representation of a future memory. 9. Eren's titan is the best environment for vertical maneuvering equipment; it is even better than forest of tall trees because not only can they up the tall pillar-shaped bones but they can go under the bones too, which allows so much versatility. This is why the team dodged Beast Titan's shots easily this time around and defeated it quickly. I feel like Zeke's Beast Titan is not a S tier titan but a low A or a high B tier titan because you need to set up circumstances for it to win. Otherwise, it will struggle landing its shots. Also, it's not particularly tanky either.

Your reactions and thought process are amazing ❤

its defintly worth that u guys didnt read the manga cuz the reactions are genuinely refreshing I salute you

The first 10 min of this ep are just incredible

29:32 Suraj's reaction to Eren's "Tatakae!" here is golden lol. Was anticipating this specific reaction the entire time. 😂

Without a doubt my favorite reaction and discussion on this channel. Marketa especially was phenomenal

I think people are forgetting that this is a war The World declared war on Paradis in the first part of s4. Eren and Paradis spent a couple years trying to make peace prior to that. But in the end the World decided to take Eldians out. Eren only has a couple years left to live at this time and Paradis still never found away to make peace with the world. Like when Hange said they failed to give him another choice. Which was hinted in ep10 of s4 when Eren was in prison and he asked Hange if she had any other ides on what to do. And that led to Eren doing what he's always done rather letting the world take his family's freedom he took their freedom first. A lot of people say do a partial rumbling but it wouldn't work because if you remember they attacked Marley in the first part of s4 that was suppose to hold them off for months but they came back in 2 weeks. The outside world was developing fast so they had way more knowledge then Eldians so they would've responded quickly. I think he's doing it to become the catalyst of hate so that they would come together and stop him. Which is why I feel like he wants Eldians to stop him so that the rest of the world would respect them giving he's family true Freedom.

BTW this actually covered 4 chapters and there are 5 left to be adapted, so we are looking to be good for another hour and half or so special. Also I really hope there is not anime original ending, the manga was NOT rushed and the ending is good, it just didnt go the way some ppl wanted it to so they just pretend its terrible throwing tantrums bc its not what they wanted.

@cameronweaver2013

Жыл бұрын

IMO, some parts could have been fleshed out more or worded better. But I do think it ended in a suitable way.

@francoisssangma996

Жыл бұрын

I agree we don't need an original ending. The manga ending is good. BUT it was rushed. Especially the last two chapters.

@nkft1

Жыл бұрын

It's just like the last of us part 2, people don't like getting something that they were not expecting. But IMO the ending suits perfectly to the whole thing.

@ozyssah

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@@cameronweaver2013 i agree that it could be more fleshed out and definitely agree some things need better dialog

for example when even sees the kid getting beating he doesn't save him right away because he was trying to change the future by not saving him. but he makes the choice to save him and reaffirms his belief that the future cannot be change. he also does it with mikasa last season when he asks her how she feels about him knowing what her answer will be and hoping she will be truthful.

i honestly didn't expect this level of discussion, congrats.

@jeysonfritz9613

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it was filmbuff level discussion

29:17 "Is he like brain-dead because he is only a head" LMFAOOOOOOOO

48:00 I think that Eren does not necessarily experience all timelines at once until he merges with Zeke. Before that, he was only experiencing glimpses into the future. That's why he says "*most likely*, I save this kid" because he knows Ramzi appears in a future memory. He's already been shown that the future cannot be changed, because every single choice he makes brings him to another point in the memory, regardless. Whatever Eren "chooses" to do is what was always going to happen. Isayama is not just conveying a story about determinism, he's created a tacit rejection of a libertarian notion of "free will". More specifically, the idea that a person is the "author" of their own thoughts and, all things being equal, could have chosen option A just as easily as they could have chosen option B. In the case of Attack on Titan, every "choice" that Eren will make leads to a predetermined conclusion, because every choice that Eren makes is not of truly of his own volition. It's not truly of anyone's volition. If Eren had chosen to not save Ramzi in that instance, that's what was supposed to happen anyways, because in every timeline, Eren makes that same choice no matter how many times the scenario plays out. I also love how thorough Isayama's theme of "everybody's a slave to something" permeates throughout the series. He created a character so free that they're a slave to freedom itself. All of this is happening because Eren literally cannot accept the world trying to take his freedom away, even if he's fully aware that the better option might very well be for Eldia to perish instead. Incredible.

@pro7gamer

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Wat would you rather do?

the skit at the start was great 😭😭

Great reaction really enjoyed the post conversation. Looking forward to the ending and the post discussion and everyone's opinions with that.

The music throught Hange scence is so incredible

Eren is answering the morale question of killing 1 close person or many strangers. And he chose the 1 close person. Annie spent years inside a rock, now the world is about to end most likely and she thought her one and only family is dead ... Of course she just want to spend her last bit of time in peace.

That’s the tragedy of the show. Eren always wanted “freedom,” but as soon as he gained the power to see the future he realized nobody could ever really be free. Their world is predetermined on one path to one future, there is no free will.

HELL YEAH Ive been waiting for yall!!!

Wow it's finally here, also that skit at the beginning was great.

Chris, Suraj Navi, marketa, Micky! Around 10:30! The attack titan = shingeki no kyojin =進撃の巨人 「進撃」means advancing/charging in the context of a battle rather than attacking specifically, so the nuance is lost in the translation. There isn't much that the translators could've done unfortunately. The "Charging Titan" doesn't sound nearly as good as the "Attack Titan", and it doesn't have the broader meaning that the Japanese word does unfortunately 「の」 means of, 「巨人」 means titan But attack is usually 「攻撃」 not 「進撃」 in Japan. 「攻撃」, 「進撃」 and 「巨人」 are Chinese characters and have meanings on their own. 「進」 means advance forward, go up, improve, etc. 「攻」 means attack, learn 「撃」 means beating, attacking 「攻撃」 means attack. In Japan the attack titan means kogeki no kyojin, means 「攻撃の巨人」 but the creator, Isayama, chose to name it shingeki no kyojin! It is difficult to translate shingeki no kyojin to English. The name of the Titan and the name of the show is: The titan who attacks to advance forward. That Is the more correct meaning.

I almost caved my chest in doing the salute when Levi said Shinzo sasagye and again when I saw and heard Erwin

So many people miss the significance of Eren's confession to Ramzi. Definitely somewhat inspired by Walter White's confession: I did it for me.

I did hear someone ask, couldn’t society survive if they lived underground similar to that one city where Captain Levi was born in? I never really understood where that place was

We can't even imagine the pain Eren is feeling💔..All he wanted was freedom and this is what he is going through..