IMHO Rivian R1S is the overall winner of any EV ever made. It's Boxy profile maximizes cargo capacity, headroom, visibility, and aesthetics. Clean horizontal and vertical lines are visually appealing. Ground clearance is amazing! It so roomy and a departure from all the crampt EV's with a high price tag. The Rivian R1S and the Hummer EV SUV truly are the most enviable examples of American Engineering on the road.

@scottleggejr

8 ай бұрын

So it's the winner of the special Olympics 💪

@csguak

6 ай бұрын

This car isn't for the poor 🤣😂

I agree 💯 the R1S is the best 3 row SUV you can buy. I actually think it's the best vehicle on the market period. It's faster than a Lamborghini Urus, more luxurious than a Cadillac Escalade and is more roomy than Mercedes GLS. But than again I'm pretty biased. I just got mine 2 months ago and I love it. By far the best car I've ever owned and I've owned a lot or luxury cars and SUVs

Best video I have seen yet for R1S review! No hype and I dont know how you talked so smooth and the entire time but lots of great info. Thank you

Super job Alex. Your reviews are always super-packed with factual information. Great to watch. Thanks again! The Rivian is extremely impressive in both its current versions - but too long for my garage so I am waiting for the upcoming smaller Rivian SUV (early 2026?).

I sure hope Rivian can have its breakthrough and become profitable eventually. The value is actually pretty impressive considering everything you’re getting

@RollGlide

8 ай бұрын

They need to simplify the design. It's largely over-designed.

@scottleggejr

8 ай бұрын

​@@RollGlideAll EV are because they are a giant rolling right to repair nightmare

@Expressionistix

8 ай бұрын

The brand will be gone in under 5 years,

I like Rivian's style of their vehicles. I'm waiting for the R2 to come out before deciding to buy one because the R1S is too big for me! Great review Alex.

Thanks for sharing. Rivian R1S is beautiful, it is definitely my next 7-seats family SUV, after I sell my Toyota mini-van. The large or max pack is what I'm planning to buy because it can do 350+ miles, so I don't have to worry about stopping half way for charging going from NC to DC.

@rtcapri9147

6 ай бұрын

Yes, you will love it. It is the biggest vehicle we have ever owned, but it fits all the grandkids and when not hauling people, we can literally haul doors and whatever we need by putting the seats down forward. Its like having a canopied truck. I bought it mainly because of its seating capacity though.There is definitely nothing like it right now.

Highly informative video. Thank you! About to take delivery of ours, this was super helpful.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

8 ай бұрын

Thank you for the feedback, hope you enjoy your Rivian! -Travis

There is a lot of Range Rover design cues here, and the presence is also here too. The quad motor powertrain is insane, ditto the battery sizes for a car this size (bigger than Q8 e-tron, EQS SUV and iX).

Good overview. There's also additional interior front seat closed storage under each of the front seats.

14:05 Can of tomatoes rolling around in the driveway! 🤣 THAT'S ME!

BTW, there are storage bins under the front seats instead of a glove box. Also, it appears that Rivian is planning on offering an optional pull out drawer to replace the camp speaker for even more storage. Since the speaker gets power from the car it's possible to make a drawer that either has a light or make it into a small frig.

Great job, really appreciate all of the detail on dimensions and storage/cargo capacity. Would’ve been even more interesting to toss in a few ICE 3 row SUVs for the interior dimension comparisons.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

8 ай бұрын

Noted, thank you for the feedback! -Travis

An excellent review, thank you!

This video is undeniably motivating! -- "Progress results from persistent effort.."

@scottleggejr

8 ай бұрын

It seems silly that we have "acceptable" trucks already today, yet putting ev power in *that* is seemingly too difficult for some reason 😂

Appreciate the content- Rivian is a cool looking Vehicle

Just wait for the Lucid Gravity next month Alex. I think you'll have a new favorite SUV.

@scottleggejr

8 ай бұрын

Lucid should definitely be on more people's radar. I think their product is far better build than Tesla.

Thanks as always Alex. I would have loved to hear your take on the different tire options. They have a big impact on range and it seems like pretty big trade offs in terms (20" great for off roading, terrible for range, 21" great for range but fairly proprietary so hard to swap, and the 22" etc.). Also, is the max battery worth it given the relatively little gain and the longer charging time.

For the road test, I hope you had the latest software updated. It changed the ride quality a lot.

@costaricasurf66

7 ай бұрын

Yes and the update after that they enhanced and corrected the audio system and updated the main screen graphics and added a lot of functionality to it, including motor temperature and battery temp. First vehicle I have ever owned that they keep adding useful features to without charging you for it. If they will only add me a glovebox it would be perfect 🤣

I have been watching you many years and i still dont know why it is when u get in a trunk it makes me giggle in a good happy way. Jus sayin!♥️ thanks for that laugh. serious

@AAutoBuyersGuide

8 ай бұрын

So glad you enjoy the Exclusive Trunk Comfort Index! -Travis

Great review!

Absolutely love what Rivian has done here.

I have an R1T and actually prefer the self-contained front trunk design. I thought I would like the F150 Lightning style initially, but its nice to have your stuff stay put when the frunc opens, especially if you cram it in there. Also that's a nice design choice with the R1S tailgate for sure.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

5 ай бұрын

I think the preference in frunk design is going to mostly come down to regular use. -Travis

@sleepy670

4 ай бұрын

So you prefer to make it always awkward and physically challenging to load and unload heavier things so that the one time a year you buy 6 watermelons they won't roll out when you open the frunk?

Finally a vehicle that meets all my bacon microwaving needs; In that red it even looks like the love child of a microvave & a giant slice of bacon! Stunning!

How did you turn the battery percentage off and just show the range?? The percentage gives me range anxiety in mine and would love to know how you did it - I haven’t found it anywhere in settings!

According to Car & Driver Max Pack is 149 kWh gross and only available with dual motor.

Something that is very overlooked is the fact that the cargospace behind the second row is less than a 2017 toyot rav4.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

8 ай бұрын

Something else overlooked is that cargo measurement standards are not universal, Rivian doesn't measure all the way to the ceiling but Toyota did with the RAV4. Toyota actually tweaked their measurement process between 2017 and now so the current RAV is actually a little roomier according to the engineers than the old RAV even though it seems smaller on the spec sheet.

Are there any test numbers on efficiency between lowest/low/standard ride heights?

Love those floor mats.

Can someone explain Alex’s t-shirt at the end? Looks like a LOTR reference but I don’t recognize the object in the middle.

@laurenappa7233

8 ай бұрын

I believe that’s the NACS plug Tesla invented and the other manufacturers are adopting so it’s like the “one ring” to rule them all (?)

@1250ships

8 ай бұрын

One connector to rule them all. That is the Tesla EV plug.

Not sure if I missed it.. so the driver's seat doesn't bring as many features in all trims?

*tesla has left the chat* 😂😂😂

@justin9152

8 ай бұрын

The Model X looks ancient. lol

@jasonhillgiant

8 ай бұрын

Every feature on the R1S I don’t like is prefaced with the comment “just like in the Tesla”.

@petezee6645

8 ай бұрын

My neighbor just bought a Model X and I had to force a smile as he waffled on about it. All I could think is it looks so so old and he should’ve bought a R1S for the same. AND got a real third row. R1S for the win 🥇

@Bestfriend-650

8 ай бұрын

@@petezee6645Issue is that you can actually get Model X right now vs three year wait for R1S. I have reserved R1S but I am unsure if can wait for such long time.

@AP-lh1bq

8 ай бұрын

That’s the comment

Honest question? What would your reservation be about buying Rivian? I want the R1S but worried if they dont survive that a lot of their services and features will just stop working and fear of warranty

@TobyCostaRica

8 ай бұрын

Reports of phantom battery draining (which have been fixed?), accelerated tire wear from driving around a heavy vehicle. Sure electric is cheaper than gas now, but if you’re spending $2000 on tires every 10k it’s a wash

@servicedriveadvocate8591

8 ай бұрын

@@TobyCostaRicatires have more to do with 800HP and wear due to alignment settings at standard ride height (and consistently running it in low). You should set the alignment based on what drive height you are in the most. Also turn off auto height change!

@jissanhuq3792

8 ай бұрын

@@TobyCostaRica i don’t drive a lot so 10k is like 2-3 years for us. I’m not concerned about basic wear and tear i can replace anywhere. I’m worried about the actual Rivian parts

The white interior looks nice but how do you think it will look after 5 yrs? Does it seem to be durable and does it show dirt?

@servicedriveadvocate8591

8 ай бұрын

Have it with kids (3 under 6) coated the seats no issues so far. Wet wipes and stuff comes right off.

Alex you have lost an insane amount of weight! Looking good.

Id love one. I also dont need a car that can tip the scales at roughly my remaining mortgage. R2 maybe? Hope it doesnt suck.

I hope Rivian has addressed the phantom battery drain you experienced with your R1T.

@manuelias86

8 ай бұрын

The vampire loss was 3.6% over 6 days, or 0.6% per day with Gear Guard off with the 22.34.0 software

@smallbusinessdreams

8 ай бұрын

Not an issue. Rivian already fixed it.

@AllenYatesJ

8 ай бұрын

We just left ours for 5 days in the garage, and it only lost 1%. Seems to not be much of a problem anymore as long as Gear Guard isn't running constantly.

@msh8816

8 ай бұрын

Lost 1%...? Tesla doesn't lose any. None of Volvo hybrids does either.

@AllenYatesJ

8 ай бұрын

@@msh8816 I have a Model 3 and this is just not accurate. It was parked at the same time as the Rivian and lost a similar amount.

Great video. Nice SUV, but the price is too high for me. One can buy an ICE vehicle around the same price with better features and more towing capacity and definitely less range and re-fueling anxiety and time. The problem I see is that a Rivian customer is one that wants “off-road” capability. I don’t think that’s a necessity for most consumers. Also, being a start-up company I am concerned that they will be here in 5 years. Hopefully, they can become profitable.

I’ve heard performance focused channels talk about how much worse this feels traveling at speed than the truck version. This has either a 3 second or 4 second 0-60 time. Either way this is clearly very fast. So, I feel like handling really matters. What is your take on how this feels when doing spirited driving in a vehicle with a 3 second 0-60 time?

@christopherpayne1850

8 ай бұрын

I have one. It handles just fine at speed and it is fast. 😁

@scottleggejr

8 ай бұрын

Such an odd comment. It's a truck, or isn't it?😂 I don't hear people talking about an f150 like this. Payload, cargo, towing, 4wd/off-road are the typical comments. Why not just use a typical suspension and shocks?

@zero11010

8 ай бұрын

@@scottleggejr this isn’t going to be used for off-roading. Not really. It’s going to be driven like a car. The reviews I’ve seen from people who drive vehicles pretty hard (channels like Throttle House where the host actually races cars for fun and they use a track for reviews) a common theme is that the truck version handles better than this version. That’s a key thing I’m looking to hear more about. It’s a thing Rivian will need to address at some point. This channel isn’t known for performance driving. I do like his “Everyman” approach. A vehicle enthusiast talking about cars. He’s doesn’t seem like he spends time going fast. So, I don’t really know if these are things he really recognizes (that’s not a slight).

I drive a yukon for uber, this would be a dream to drive

Excellent! Thank you.

Did anyone recognize the brand of his roller bag? It looks like it was built to hold up to luggage handlers.

Can't wait for the ev9

I like how the front looks friendly

@Carfan678

8 ай бұрын

Exactly looks pretty unique and distinct as well

its a very good SUV.. we are enjoy it, specially w todya's gasoline prices. Not perfect but very good for being a new car company.

Will you please review the Rivian R2 as early as you can, Alex?

Good video but you are incorrect on the climate zones. There are only two temp zones, the second row left and right get their temp from the front rows the second row screen just shows you the temp setting for front seats. Second row passengers can control fan speed and seat heaters only. Third row just recirculated heated air but does seem able to blow cold air. I own an R1S.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for expanding on that! -Travis

Does the R1S offer Vehicle 2 Load? V2L?

@RaoulHira

8 ай бұрын

Yes. It's supposed to I even support V2H but the software isn't there yet

Wonder about its long term reliability

Also the car has a mode that keeps it on for youtubers.

I don't like the front end. Looks like an anime character rather than elegant or rugged. Ugh.

@rodgerwill1042

8 ай бұрын

Thomas the tank engine.

@dash-ryan

8 ай бұрын

@@rodgerwill1042 OMG, now I can't unsee that! 😆

I feel that any BEV that has a 100kWh battery or larger, must have a 19/22kW on board AC charger. With the 180kWh battery option, that's going to be over 15hrs to charge at home with the 11.5kW charger. I live in AZ and we have a 6hr window of Super off Peak rates for EV charging. 80Amp vehicle capability is must for manufacturers to provide in the near future.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

18 күн бұрын

It's not just about vehicle capability but also household availability. How many houses in the US have 80 or more apps readily available for vehicle charging? -Travis

@joebullwinkle5099

18 күн бұрын

​@@AAutoBuyersGuide Any home built from the early 1980's onwards usually has a 200Amp Mains circuit, so many millions of homes are capable of using an 80Amp wall connector and those that are not can likely be upgraded at least to 200Amp. I looked at getting a 400Amp upgrade and it's available from the street side, it's just a matter of upgrading my main board.

Great review! Do people actually take $100K SUVs off road? Hope Rivian makes smaller, less capable, cheaper EVs. I'd buy Rivian because American made without Musk.

@servicedriveadvocate8591

8 ай бұрын

Living in Colorado yes bought it for that purpose otherwise much cheaper EVs to buy that could fit the family.

@dvader3263

8 ай бұрын

Sure, because the CEOs of all other car companies are honest angels.😂

@amberheywood2603

8 ай бұрын

Have you seen how expensive Jeeps are? It's not just Rivian that is so expensive it hurts.

@servicedriveadvocate8591

8 ай бұрын

@@amberheywood2603 or tahoes which this competes with

A small dent in the bumper will cost over $40,000 to fix as this vehicle is made in 1 body panel. Once they address this issue this will make for a very compelling vehicle.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

8 ай бұрын

That fix ended up being significantly cheaper but boy did that $40,000 headline stick. -Travis

I just realized that Alex without his glasses looks like Gru with hair from Despicable Me

@AAutoBuyersGuide

8 ай бұрын

Um, thanks?

Dream family car. Just wish the price was lower

Poor guy wants a hug.

Why is it best suv when the hood makes it too big, it has the same legroom as a Toyota Highlander, and it’s so large that it requires more serious charging (expensive charging) and also how expensive it is, as well as unknown future reliability? I’m trying to find an upside here, but it seems like you’re getting Range Rover pricing and reliability with Toyota interior room.

Spare tire?

The best 3row is one that people can afford.

Cybertuck is not bizarre, it's cartoonish.

One of the best vehicles I’ve ever owned so well rounded. Only worry is rivians long term life making it to profitability.

@hurlentropy6866

8 ай бұрын

They've cut losses per vehicle from 100+k to 70k to 33k. Significant strides

@scottleggejr

8 ай бұрын

That holds true for 100% of the EV market 😂

@hurlentropy6866

7 ай бұрын

@@scottleggejr What holds true? Lcid increased losses from 300+ k to 400+k. Tesla missed on expectations. Rivian beat on all levels

@scottleggejr

7 ай бұрын

@@hurlentropy6866 op said the worry was profitability. The whole ev market has that problem. They're all operating at a loss with one of the highest cost of cash points in history.

@hurlentropy6866

7 ай бұрын

@@scottleggejr If one is to worry, then they shouldn't invest in risky stocks and should just stick to safer options like big 7. Tesla is profitable so it's not the whole EV market that is not profitable but the whole EV market that is suffering due to high interest environment.

We took delivery of our R1S on 9/22 and one word that describes it all in CAPABLE for every condition. I even found myself driving it more than our Model Y.

Great review, interesting vehicle. Too bad Rivian will be gone within three years. They lose money on everything they sell. Their sales numbers preclude long term financial viability. I wish there was better news but the numbers just don’t add up.

@shinikyokai8815

7 ай бұрын

Tesla didn't add up for like the first ten years of its existence and even over a year into its Model 3 production.

I'm still not sold on the Rivian front end. Too much Fiat 500 to my eyes.

A most extraordinary vehicle. I mean, I don’t know what problems there might be as you rack up the miles, but the overall quality and the amount of work that’s gone into the car, is considerable. I know what Tesla will say about that 180kWh battery though…if the vehicle was more efficient, it wouldn’t need to haul that huge thing around. But, nothing detracts from the overall appeal. I’ll never be able to buy one, not used, not ever, but this is a nice friendly-looking SUV that is at the beginning of its evolution, not even begun life on the road en masse yet. Looking forward to seeing how it does. Thanks for the review, some of the very best on the toob.

@user-nu1vn3yy9s

8 ай бұрын

Yet they try to put a bigger battery to their weird Cybertruck. Maybe they have a contract with a movie producer to film a remake of some sci-fiction from the 1970s? And remember - Tesla is so far now from being the absolute leader. After SO MANY Elon lies I wouldn't trust Tesla in anything.

The Rivian R1S is a good SUV EV compared to the competition like EQS suv and the Tesla model x, looks more practical and it can comfortably fit people and the price is within the competition.

That 400 mile range might work for me, if it's real even in a cold, snowy winter. Is the two motor front and rear (still all wheel drive) or 2wd ? Has Rivian said anything about NACS? edit: yes, no timeline

@fpartidafpartida

8 ай бұрын

You will loose some range in the winter. I see about 50 mile loss in MN with the Launch Edition R1S (quad motor middle pack). Yes, the 2 motor is all wheel drive. Yes, Rivian has signed up for NACS. I believe they will begging shipping built in 2025 built in to the vehicles (Although R2 will go with it right away). Current Rivian owners get access to the Superchargers and adaptors starting Spring 2024.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

8 ай бұрын

The dual motor is AWD. -Travis

Now you should review the model X

@justin9152

8 ай бұрын

Why? It's been out for like 30 years now.

if only i could afford one 😢

Alex, looks like you’re loosing some weight. Nice job 🤟Stay healthy friend.

we bought a 40A 240V charger.. plug in version. I get just under 10KW and Rivian gets around 19 miles per hour. The Rivian charger is only 32A and you get about 14 miles per hour. The external 40A charger Shockflo was under $250 shipped.

At least until the ev9 is out and comes in 30k cheaper for the top of the line model

@AAutoBuyersGuide

8 ай бұрын

Spatially it may be in the same category but it won't have nearly the off pavement capability. More features tends to cost more. -Travis

No captain chair option 😂

Wish I could afford one of these.

Congrats on the weight loss, helps with the 3rd rows I am sure. LOL 😂

Max Pack battery costs $10K more and only adds 50 miles of range. 😞

180kWh for the Max Pack is an outdated spec. It was announced to only be 149kWh.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

8 ай бұрын

You're correct, thank you for mentioning it. -Travis

For a vehicle that costs over $90k, call me lazy but the lack of power up and down third row, and rear lift gate is a miss (Range rovers have it). Also wish it had teslas charger and a f150 lightning styled frunk to reduce the lift over height. Oh and more third row legroom. Third row rear air vent direction cannot be adjusted.. like come on that’s like a 10 cent piece of plastic. Sorry too lazy to edit

@AAutoBuyersGuide

7 ай бұрын

If it had more rear legroom the whole thing would need to be that much bigger and I think it's a great compromise as it stands. -Travis

@chonyi

7 ай бұрын

@@AAutoBuyersGuide oddly I think that was the biggest miss. I wish they kept the same wheel base as the truck and gave the second row bigger doors. When I test drove the r1s my foot got stuck trying to shimmy into the third row.. and I’m only 5’9 size 10 shoes and quite nimble. It would also improve ride quality. I’m looking forward to try the Kia Ev 9. Kinda bummed the cybertruck isn’t make in a cybersuv shape. Thank you for all you do!

The Max Pack is not likely to be 180 kWh. Other outlets are reporting around 150 kWh usable.

@Reddeadregen

8 ай бұрын

149 kWh gross looks like…😮

See InsideEVs story from 12/26/2023: "Rivian R1T Owner Says His Truck Has Been Out For Repairs For Eight Months for a damaged side camera"

What’s your height bro? The SUV looks unrealistically huge!

Lack of Carplay, even wired, is a crazy oversight for a car of this level. That will be a deal-breaker for many. Otherwise, a very good first effort, and I look forward to their smaller offerings to compete with the likes of the Volvo EX30, etc.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

8 ай бұрын

I don't think Carplay was an oversight and they aren't the only manufacturer not putting it in their vehicles. I'm looking forward to the R2 line as well. -Travis

@joelbolton7252

8 ай бұрын

@@AAutoBuyersGuide the other manufacturers like Cadillac who are not including it as well are not reading their market correctly. People want and expect CarPlay more and more, and the manufacturers who use their own system or say that whatever they have is better are simply ignoring what the customers really want. I’m sorry to say it. I look forward to their future cars but it is important that they try and make an attempt to gauge from potential buyers if that is some thing they are going to want on future models, since cars as cheap as Mitsubishi offer CarPlay in some form.

It seems like a stellar vehicle but they really should have the option to opt for a standard suspension b/c people who want to keep these for more than a few years are going to in a world of hurt fixing the air suspension esp if they off-road at all. That might be a deal breaker for some people this was aiming at.

@scottleggejr

8 ай бұрын

All EV have massive issues with right to repair.

S-tier EV for sure.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

8 ай бұрын

That's a good thing, right? -Travis

Wow, 135kwh is soo much battery for only 279 mi highway. Energy density is still a huge issue for EVs.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

8 ай бұрын

I would argue the biggest issue for EV's is charging infrastructure. -Travis

@jucarda572

8 ай бұрын

@@AAutoBuyersGuide That depends on many things like where you live, type of charger an plug, etc. But energy density makes electric cars extremely heavy. That makes them much more expensive than they should be. And that extra weight makes them less practical and less efficient. If we could have a 120kWh battery with a volume of just 80 liters, and weighing more than 300lbs that would make electric cars much more competitive with traditional ones.

What is that weird water falling out of the sky?

@juustjoshin

8 ай бұрын

It’s mist in the Santa Cruz mountains.

My man Alex has lost a ton of weight!

There is no way you can tell me a vehicle you have to use the infotainment screen to adjust the air vents is the best. Don't know why just because it's electric engineers have to overthink and over engineer things that don't need it.

@servicedriveadvocate8591

8 ай бұрын

How often do you really change your vents? I’ve set mine when I bought it and haven’t really adjusted it since.

@theBatmanGoeth2

8 ай бұрын

​@@servicedriveadvocate8591quite often. Depends on if I want heat or AC, whether or not it's sunny out, and any number of things. Plus, it's another thing that I can't adjust if the screen doesn't work or the motor breaks. Not to sound like a boomer, but I have hands perfectly capable of adjusting air vents. Also, if they went through the trouble and complexity to do this just imagine how over engineered the rest of the vehicle is. Doesn't scream reliability to me.

The integration of so many functions into a couple buttons and a screen is not user friendly. Yesterday one of these pulled up next to me at a stop light. I checked out the panel gaps while waiting. Not good. You can't lose $33,000 per vehicle sold and stay in business forever. Unlike Tesla, I don't see this company surviving.

A 1970's Frunk?

Beautiful EV, but I don't want a 3rd-row seat but am forced to buy it. No thanks, I'll wait.

Rivian R1S is the same size as the current Range Rover.

Go look at he video where they need to fix a rear dent for 41 000$ I sure will never buy that SUV lol

@franksmartin1

7 ай бұрын

That was a bs estimate

@L.L

7 ай бұрын

@@franksmartin1 well not really since those trucks are one piece body

@franksmartin1

7 ай бұрын

@@L.L I own one many people have has these dents fixed for a fraction of that price. They are also excellent candidates for PDR.

@L.L

7 ай бұрын

@@franksmartin1 that repair cost was at the Rivian repair shop itself so for them they probably just wanted to change the full side of the body

Another EV we will never be able to buy or afford. Rivian is losing ~$20k on each.

@arianjohnson272

8 ай бұрын

What ?? How???

@hurlentropy6866

8 ай бұрын

They were losing 100+k a yr ago. Now 33k per vehicle in q2

I'm sorry it can't be the best at that price. I want one, sure, but can real people afford one?

@AAutoBuyersGuide

8 ай бұрын

Enough people seem to be able to for the company to keep going. -Travis

How many people can afford an $80k to $100k SUV?

@steinwaymodelb

8 ай бұрын

Too expensive for me too, but so is the Suburban/Yukon, Wagoneer, Expedition/Navigator, Sequoia, all of which are similarly priced and quite successful models.

@williamerazo3921

8 ай бұрын

A lot of people. Look at all the Full size SUV in the market. The cheapest FS SUV you can get is the Ford Expedition base

@shawnmiller5636

8 ай бұрын

​​@williamerazo3921 more can not than can though. By a wide margin. Its no wonder people arent racing towards bankruptcy to save the planet and why the companies touting ev's because they care about the planet dont price them so regular people can afford them. The only green they care about is cash. Car companies are loving this save the planet cry.

@williamerazo3921

7 ай бұрын

@@steinwaymodelb yup

Beautifully designed inside and out. However the dash and center console are overly simplified and not very functional and interesting. Lack of luxury touches

The new 2025 model will have a Tri-Motor level that is more powerful than this Quad Motor with 850 HP 0-60 in 2.9 seconds. Price: $105k. Available: Summer 2024

this is a game changer