Ooooo, no one's ever shut a door in his face before! 😁 Good one, Hurrem❣️👍

Hurrem the smartest sultana ❤

@izas5768

9 күн бұрын

Stupid*

The sultana that has a smart mind of all❤❤

@izas5768

9 күн бұрын

Stupid*

Hatice says that for many years the sultans didn’t marry while her own mother was married to Sultan Selim, Süleyman’s father

@Redluna32

20 күн бұрын

Yeah, the show continually creates its own alternate history only to actively contradict it. Everyone, including Hafsa, also kicks up a huge fuss over being the only one to bear Suleiman children, but all of the children born to Selim I apparently came from Hafsa (which is absolutely untrue in real life).

@sunidhinaruka2005

19 күн бұрын

Actually hafsa sultan was not an ordinary concubine, she is the daughter of Khan of the Crimea (the giray) , so it's a political marriage, she came here as a Sultana as legally married with sultan selim. ( Hafsa was a free royal muslim women not a slave. so, it is mandatory for sultan to marry her and not keep her as slave) While hurrem was a concubine so hatice said all of that.

@Balikkilab

19 күн бұрын

@@sunidhinaruka2005I know, but that’s not what Hatice said. She said, that, in general, the Sultans didn’t marry for many of years and that she shouldn’t dream about it. She didn’t said “the sultan didn’t marry a concubine for many years”

@sunidhinaruka2005

19 күн бұрын

@@Balikkilab she meant only that but. Ottoman customs were like that only...you can't marry one who is already your concubine/slave. And what hatice said was true also never in the history before Suleiman something like this happened But Suleiman's love for hurrem changed everything.

@FlamingoDove

14 күн бұрын

No no, for almost 200 years or something never has once a 'slave' been freed and legally married.

Hatice, implying Hurrem is a bad mother for letting herself get exciled. Hatice, years later, abandoning her children by unaliving herself just to get revenge on Suleyman and Hurrem.

So, what's wild is that, yes, there _is_ an account of this occurring but, if you have even a passing understanding of Ottoman history, it should be obvious that the report is born from European misconceptions and isn't at all factual (even the timeline is wrong, for example). "Ogier Ghiselin de Busbecq, ambassador of the Hapsburg emperor in the mid-1550s, was one diplomat who repeated the story that Roxelana had refused to sleep with Suleyman unless he married her. '[Concubines] earn their freedom...if they bear children,' he wrote *(in error)* . 'Advantage was taken of this privilege by Roxelana, Soleiman's wife, when she had borne him a son while still a slave. Having thus obtained her freedom and become her own mistress, she refused to have anything more to do with Soleiman, who was deeply in love with her, unless he made her his lawful wife.'"-Peirce, Leslie. _Empress of the East: How a European Slave Girl Became Queen of the Ottoman Empire_

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