I think you mean “the rise and fall... and rise again of auto tune”

@gabrielsosa7349

4 жыл бұрын

thatdronekid torreto I see that Company man reference

@1thingtosay1

4 жыл бұрын

Company man!

@davehandelman2832

4 жыл бұрын

More like "the rise and then slight decline of...."

@lilkris3008

4 жыл бұрын

A man of quality content

@Caterfree10

4 жыл бұрын

Ah, a person of culture.

Can’t hate the tool, just the people that rely on it too heavily.

@hollywoodundead1010

4 жыл бұрын

I fully agree you there. N as someone who makes music but couldn’t sing well if you put a gun to my head. I look at it a tool to help the passionate but “unskilled” musicians. N I use unskilled very loosely here.

@rachelgarber1423

4 жыл бұрын

Ikr, I read that some singers are not as good as they sound with autotune. Furthermore, the read that Cher really doesn’t need autotune, she’s a good singer without it

@jackfille3910

3 жыл бұрын

It's being misused by people like Cardi B, who can't sing without it. It's being correctly used by bands like Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, it's clear that it's supposed to be super-electronic. Same thing with I'm blue by eiffel 65.

@unfortunatewitnessX

3 жыл бұрын

Sad, but true.

@HughMungus4655

Жыл бұрын

every single contemporary singer uses pitch correction lol

I guess we have to wait for the fall of autotune explained in another video.

@simon_patterson

4 жыл бұрын

I thought the same!

@JoeTheBroken

4 жыл бұрын

It never fell

@SouthsideHardhead601

4 жыл бұрын

It's on the decline now..everyone, literally almost everyone uses it..if everyone uses it its not unique anymore

@JoshGerhards

4 жыл бұрын

This seems like a recurring problem with cheddar videos...

@Liggliluff

4 жыл бұрын

The Rise Of Autotune - Cheddar Explains

*JaSOn DeRUloOo has entered the chat*

@erikbojay9925

4 жыл бұрын

Why did I read it with Auto-tune in my mind?

@jesseroel8362

4 жыл бұрын

I used to sit in front of a fan and go Jason Derulo

@amphibiangoddess

4 жыл бұрын

@Austin Martín Hernández *YeaYEAhYeahh*

@litzburger

4 жыл бұрын

LMAO 🤣

@napalm_lipbalm86

3 жыл бұрын

Or T-pain. They had an autotune 🎤 at Toys R Us that literally said T-pain autotune microphone 😂😂😂😂

Modern rappers: it’s free real estate

@theaddictofgaming9174

4 жыл бұрын

Rappers from Morden?

@colin73008

4 жыл бұрын

Modern buddy

@ranonchikanda1052

4 жыл бұрын

robittiget ok I’m just commenting on a video it’s not that deep

@user-nf9xc7ww7m

4 жыл бұрын

@robittiget memes never die. People are still doing the "last time I was this early..." 🤮

@shspurs1342

4 жыл бұрын

리주민 like people are still doing. Epstein didn’t kill himself.

Autotune is still being used, just not as obvious

@kolinmartz

4 жыл бұрын

It’s just back to being used as it’s intended.

@GenghisKhanner

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, just like the video said.

@veerchasm1

4 жыл бұрын

GenghisKhanner I’m clinically deaf/blind so I didn’t watch it

@kumhai

4 жыл бұрын

actually there's a ton of artist using autotune in a very explicit way, rosalia, frank ocean, travis scott, charli xcx, etcetc

@fuegococoa

4 жыл бұрын

Travis Scott & Future are 2 of the biggest musical acts on earth and blatantly use it to the point where it’s part of their style

06:56 "won a grammy" * cher holding an oscar * hmm..ok.

@yony_music

3 жыл бұрын

@The Lavian Yeah, like for exanple they often didn't show the actual autotune plugin, but a totally different one by antares

"Do you believe in life after love" To answer that question, I have a question to ask. *What is love? Baby don't hurt me*

@jorgesoler7753

4 жыл бұрын

good point but do you really want to hurt me?

@user-nf9xc7ww7m

4 жыл бұрын

@@jorgesoler7753 it hurts so good.

@quincekreb6798

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@sc1338

4 жыл бұрын

Go away!

@RainbowFlowerCrow

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-nf9xc7ww7m sometimes love doesn't feel like it should

when the 2000s hits started playing I felt oooooooooooold!

@djdigital3806

4 жыл бұрын

After 2000 hit l was glad l was old. I could deal with a 80's digital keyboard synthenzier 🎹 but can't deal with a digital synthetic voice 😬 (It's Fake).

@vaderladyl

4 жыл бұрын

It not that old!

@Freekniggers

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking i was all growed up heck i was 14 in 99.

@BurnedJello

4 жыл бұрын

@@djdigital3806 Oh ya? Do you feel like we do?

@SoNextJenn

3 жыл бұрын

@@djdigital3806 Except 80’s synths were analog, not digital.

Travis Scott* has joined the chat.

@deploy_leroy

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@ccubsfan94

4 жыл бұрын

When I first heard his name I thought he was a Bro Country guy.

@anshulbhandari9870

4 жыл бұрын

*Happy Travis Scott noises

@gingerelvira6587

4 жыл бұрын

U can go now

@darkkivi123

4 жыл бұрын

iT‘s LiIiIiT

As a former audio engineer: We love to hate it. But we need to use it

@seraphina985

4 жыл бұрын

Eh it's like most things in fashion though I guess something new (Or in the case of things like clothes where you can't rely on tech to make new things all the time old enough to seem new) comes along, gets popular, gets overused, gets old and it's time to find a new toy.

@PrincipalCowbellist

4 жыл бұрын

Not sure who you work with but thats' quite sad that you need to use it.

@BIG2hats

4 жыл бұрын

As an audio engineer I fucking LOVE IT

@arrgghh1555

4 жыл бұрын

@dread true If the end result sounds good they could use AI machine learning for all I care.

@mr.commenter7953

4 жыл бұрын

@@PrincipalCowbellist almost every artist uses autotune today... even if it is subtle. It's difficult to find someone who DOESN'T use it!

This was basically just a reading of the autotune page on wikipedia. The video also didn't even talk about the supposed "fall of autotune" . Not very interesting imo

@seanc.5310

4 жыл бұрын

To be fair, if the wiki is accurate and the video is accurate they should contain very similar info

@twoloavesofbread

4 жыл бұрын

a pretty unfaithful reading, too. I wish the host had at least researched enough to know how to pronounce timbre, vocoder, and Bon Iver :(

@alexbolton8402

4 жыл бұрын

Also Blue by Eiffel 65 used a harmonizer not autotune. They were trying to emulate the autotune sound before people knew what effect Cher was using

@markowalski1

4 жыл бұрын

@@twoloavesofbread Yeah that's what really got me. It's hard to take information seriously when they don't pronounce common industry words correctly

@ede_1

4 жыл бұрын

@@twoloavesofbread she's like a zombie reading some random text ...placed just under the camera

For all the people trying to find out who uses it. Almost everyone in the top 500 uses some form of pitch correction, even most live performances use pitch correction. It just makes the life of a singer a bit easier.

@mobogdan4683

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah pretty much every form of recorded vocals for music has some sort of pitch correction on it, just not all of it is noticeable.

@PrincipalCowbellist

4 жыл бұрын

top 500? The music world has genres. Call it like it is. Pop and Rap "artists" use auto-tune. R&B do sometimes, and basically no one else.

@LiterallyFRIST

4 жыл бұрын

​@@PrincipalCowbellist imagine living in 2020 and still discounting the artistry that goes into Pop and Rap xD

@Enourmousletters

4 жыл бұрын

@@PrincipalCowbellist Elitists gonna Elite aye?

@BIG2hats

4 жыл бұрын

Principal Cowbellist They ALL use it, it’s very hard to get a perfect recording without it.. it’s just very subtle especially they can actually sing

Autotune is definitely still around, as a tool. You hear it everywhere. They just happen not to use the intentionally crazy settings for the effect. And as for T-pain being the one who ruined things, it's really Kanye's 808s and Heartbreak that made that genre a fully realized thing. Also why isn't there an old picture of the NYC street grid? It's not a genuine Cheddar video without it

@Sprchkn

4 жыл бұрын

For sure, and it's hardly imperceptible on many tracks. It's particularly terrible on musical sitcoms. I like the way musicians have overtly used autotune in their songs. However, where it's used to excess the music falls flat. For example, Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah is great with his characteristic imperfect voice (even if I think one of the covers is better). An autotuned version would be a travesty, which is the way I feel about many a modern song.

@Official_KC

4 жыл бұрын

@@Sprchkn I feel the same, exactly. I feel like a lot of popular music is just too polished. I mean go listen to Bob Dylan's electric trilogy. The flaws are what make the performances great. They were all done live in one take as well, usually. I mean something like Visions of Johanna is just amazing, flaws and all. They add to it. With digital recording, a lot of producers use the same tools, the same settings, everything. Its like those action films with too much CGI. It all just turns into mush

@Official_KC

4 жыл бұрын

@Austin Martín Hernández I don't see what a certain genre of music has to do with what I said. Seems like you just wanted to talk about how you're a classical musician. But regardless, I am a musician. I think when certain musicians obsess over exact performances, they often lose out on creativity. For another example, when someone does this really intricate solo, perfectly duplicating the song they're performing, all I can think is "Cool. Now lets hear you write some songs" Even classical musicians (I'm talking about the 1700s-early 1900s) would add "imperfections" to make things more interesting. I mean go listen to Debussy playing his own music, with piano rolls. It's quite different than those playing his sheet music and try to "perfect" it. Having everything as quarter notes would be boring as hell. And that's my point.

@RalphDratman

4 жыл бұрын

@@Sprchkn Sterile sound. Many of the greatest singers in history have bent the pitch at various places, which can add emotion, a sense of informality that is endearing, or irony. If Woody Guthrie had been auto-tuned he never would have sounded like Woody Guthrie and might never have been known for the emotional value of his songs.

@RalphDratman

4 жыл бұрын

@@Official_KC A machine sound.

Fun fact: There was no autotune used in blue. The effect was done by a vocoder and a harmonizer. They wanted to use the same effect as cher, but they didn't know what it was so they tried the next best thing.

Edited: now you'll never know what I originally said

@MahdiRanger

4 жыл бұрын

She said that lol.

@duane_313

4 жыл бұрын

If you searched the whole things that's what she says.. .

@MrChair2

4 жыл бұрын

She said that

@faishalf1.4

4 жыл бұрын

Put the retune speed to 30 ish and you got a natural sounding autotune

@ShiningSakura

4 жыл бұрын

I do believe you when you say it has gotten better, but I can't help but notice disney's live action beauty and the beast autotune nightmare.

9:35 in the late *NAUGHTIES*

@cheddar

4 жыл бұрын

What a naughty decade

@CurveTheRain

4 жыл бұрын

naught as in zero.

@geegrant865

3 жыл бұрын

@@cheddar "Knot"ies cause they on a plane

It’s just a shame a lot of “artists” these days rely on it 100% to cover up their lack of singing skill...

@ZeroHBRPro

4 жыл бұрын

That's why I was really surprised with T-Pain's real voice

@MatthewStinar

4 жыл бұрын

Is it, though? I listen for the listening experience, not to idolize the person singing.

@Sponge1310

4 жыл бұрын

That’s true I guess, but knowing it took some actual singing skill to make, does add a bit more to it..

@twlentwo

4 жыл бұрын

Some rock bands remained "real" because it often relies on different sounds, which can not be fixed by software easily. Sadly it is spreading there as well.

@user-nf9xc7ww7m

4 жыл бұрын

Some genres never bothered to sing at all.

Cher used it to stylize her already gorgeous voice. Other singers used it to hide their voices.

Autotune seems like it's a tool that's best used selectively, or in places where it fits the overall motif of the work/genre. It worked in Cher's song because it was used sparingly, more as an effect than anything else, to draw attention to the key line of the song. In Blue by Eifel 65 & One more time by Daft Punk, it's fine for it to be such a consistent presence because they were different versions of house music, a genre that itself a form of electro music. In those kinds of scenarios, auto tune fits because it can be used to emphasize the core attributes of the genre. T-pain's schtick was a gimmick, and I feel like we all knew that, even if we didn't want to admit it at the time. The issue with autotune is just a case of too much salt spoils the stew. It's like how bacon became a thing in the early 2010's. Yea, bacon is fine, and even good in some places. But if you have it with every dish at every meal, it's going to wind up having some unintended consequences.

@ImNeverOriginal

4 жыл бұрын

The thing is, auto tune isn’t just all the “robot” sound. That’s taking the settings and tweaking them to extremes. 95% of auto tune is used subtlety and is never noticed.

@tinyred9710

4 жыл бұрын

Scummy yes- I've talked with a few producers and they all have told me every vocalist has had their voice autotuned/pitch corrected, even if very subtly.

@murraymitchell7314

4 жыл бұрын

"Bacon is fine, even good?" You had me until you dissed bacon.

And for years people didn’t know T-Pain has an amazing beautiful voice without auto tune!

@ideoformsun5806

4 жыл бұрын

I wish he would record more oldies, ballads, and pop.

@tomhannon8066

4 жыл бұрын

And because of autotune, we still don't.

What happened to Zapp and Roger's "Computer Love"?! That was way before them! Cameo and Tupac Shakur's "California Love"?!💯🤷🏿‍♂️

@pwabd2784

4 жыл бұрын

California love uses a talk box. Not autotune or a vocoder.

@rhuttrho88

4 жыл бұрын

@@pwabd2784 correct. I was looking for both these comments.

This is why music from the 80s and before sounds so much more originial

That’s how Bart’s Party Posse rose to stardom. *Yvan eht nioj*

@muraygun

4 жыл бұрын

By join the navy you mean The Korean People's Navy, right?

@BasementBrothers

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, NASA!

@caitlynsult2685

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Kim Jong Un

@abbiezinn3352

4 жыл бұрын

oh say can you rock?!

@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368

3 жыл бұрын

Great, KJU is algorithmically linked to me. Nothing but recommended videos for NBA, gout and torture lay in my future.

Finally Cher gets some acknowledgement for her influence on today's music

Cheddar: remember this song? Me: yea C: you probably remember it sounding like this. Me: ...uh no?

@MarioAtheonio

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thoughts, is this another Europe vs. America thing?

@jmpl_aaren

4 жыл бұрын

Wimbely Parkersson-Davis I agree, the first clip I was thinking “duh” and the second version I was absolutely stunned: I COMPLTELY forgot the autotune on the original single! I’m guessing, as streaming was on the rise (and as you mention, autotune on pop songs was out), that her record company decided to release a different version than the CD. That would make it sound less “dated”.

@jorgesoler7753

4 жыл бұрын

@Wimbely Parkersson-Davis the chorus doesn't have that autotune effect until after the middle eight. it's just that's how most people remember it. kind of a mandela effect, but fabulous

@oholibama8888

4 жыл бұрын

There is no Mandela effect...

@LovelyAngel.

4 жыл бұрын

Strange, I feel like I've never heard the version without the autotune...

Excellent video: well researched and your narration is engaging and well timed. Love your videos Cheddar.

Love that you’re taking about this, 😊 I had heard of this before but this is another side to it - I had no clue it was passed around that much before all the rest happened and I enjoyed all the extra info and finding out how autotune came to be 😊

“Fall of Autotune” You sure about that?

@iLikeTheUDK

4 жыл бұрын

Caroline Polachek: NOOooooOooOOOOOOOoooOOOOO

You’d think that if the script said “vocoder” so many times that she would stop calling it a “vocorder”

@RalphDratman

4 жыл бұрын

Once a person pronounces a word the wrong way, she is unlikely to change her pronunciation unless someone points out the mistake. And often not even then.

@vanrose9857

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, someone should’ve pointed that out along with her pronunciation of Bon Iver.

@ShaunDreclin

4 жыл бұрын

@@RalphDratman so true! And it doesn't even have to be spoken, I've read entire books reading certain proper nouns completely wrong and not noticing until the end 😂

@user-nf9xc7ww7m

4 жыл бұрын

That's okay. Americans still can't say "sorry" correctly. It's got an "o" in there, not an "a" 😋

@Emsi_Lordtemp

4 жыл бұрын

@Smoke Tree they say it with an ah sound, so he just missed the h.

Wow!!! You just gave me a whole new perspective when looking at auto-tune!!! I've always disgraced the plugin but after the video I now see it more like an effects pedal helping the musician build his/her art!

You are a superb addition to Cheddar. Main reason I’ve stayed.

3:44 can we autotune her pronunciation of “timbre”?

@RalphDratman

4 жыл бұрын

That would be auto-talk.

@Crizzoify

4 жыл бұрын

And vocoder, and Bon Iver

@jsteinman

4 жыл бұрын

Or just remove her from cheddar completely

You're not even going to discuss Schmoyoho? They're like the pinnacle of this tech.

@silversunset

4 жыл бұрын

Yesss

@kilgorecustom7021

4 жыл бұрын

Lol calm down

@Pyromancers

4 жыл бұрын

@@kilgorecustom7021 never! I'm not backing up! Cause my daddy taught me good!

Very cool, I really liked to see the seismic connection :)

Best video in awhile, good job

Believe came out when I was a kid and I was always amazed at that vocal effect. I remember no one could figure out how she did it. A more accurate title would have been "The Rise & Rise of Autotune" because it's still around and quite prominent I think

Yeah, I remember when that song came out. I loved that auto-sound.... sigh... If only I knew....

Great video!! More music stuff please.

This is so informative & amazing to know! Thank You So Much for the Tutorial! Love Your Cool Looking Monitor! ♥️🌷🕯

Usher complaining to someone else about destroying music its just hilarious

@shspurs1342

4 жыл бұрын

That is exactly what I was thinking.

Auto-tune is not used to "subtly improving someone's singing voice" it's used to cover up the fact that a person can't sing.

@rupen42

4 жыл бұрын

Singing is more than hitting notes in pitch.

@sillygoose635

4 жыл бұрын

No it's not.

@Rickyp0123

4 жыл бұрын

I've done some audio engineering and I can tell you autotune will not instantly make someone sound great who doesn't have the fundamentals down. Depending on how heavy-handed you use it, it can range from a subtle improvement to an aggressively digital edited sound.

@Rickyp0123

4 жыл бұрын

@@rupen42 Yes. Breath control and resonance are as important as pitch, and I do not know of any technologies that can fake those fundamental skills.

@primo4915

2 жыл бұрын

False. You can use autotune as a stylistic choice. T-Pain sings better than you and everybody in your family but he likes the way auto-tune sounds so he uses it.

hi cheddar and ali, i'm a week late so you probably wont see this, but keep making videos. it might be harder during the pandemic but content is more important than quality and you still got top quality content & hosts. really like the channel

Great video. Subscribed.

You featured the Romanian "Dragostea din tei"(numa numa) song- respect

"revelution" that helped turn music into trash. It was neat at the time/once in a while, didn't think it would take over pop music for 20+ years. Bring back the vocoder, it makes you sound like a machine without stealing your soul.

This was all over my recommendation tab for awhile.

Love it!!

Huh. My respect for Usher has gone from zero, to slightly above zero.

@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770

4 жыл бұрын

0.001?

@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770

4 жыл бұрын

Austin Martín Hernández 0.0000001?

@danielm6341

4 жыл бұрын

What precision of floating point are we talking of?

Bon iver. When you never took French class.

@jaysmith1408

4 жыл бұрын

Bone Eevay

@kilgorecustom7021

4 жыл бұрын

Spanish is more important in America.

@Primalxbeast

4 жыл бұрын

There are 6,500 languages in the world. Have you taken classes in all of them? If not, why do you expect other people to take classes in a language they have no use for? I hear countless people speaking Spanish where I live. I can't recall ever hearing anyone speak French.

@mcgovemj

4 жыл бұрын

@@jaysmith1408 Nope

@leewaters5949

4 жыл бұрын

@@Primalxbeast If I were going to narrate a video on Swedish poets, I'd take the time to learn in general how the names are pronounced whether I've ever studied Swedish or not. Saying the words correctly is kind of the main goal of the narrator/presenter. But this isn't even about foreign languages; this is a piece about contemporary music. Not bothering to pronounce the names of contemporary musicians mentioned in a piece about contemporary music is inexcusable and frankly very lazy.

I think that the video editing is a little bit childish. But still it was a very interesting video, perfect information density and a clear understandable voice. Love it! I will definitely subscribe to this channel.

Very good video!

autotune: exists mumble rappers: its free real estate

@How_To_Drive_a_TARDIS

4 жыл бұрын

Hum a pum lummmm So deep

@EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo

4 жыл бұрын

@@FreshTrimPigTheGoat search Jumex. Good luck

@gustavofreng

4 жыл бұрын

Felipe Solis jumex is a shitty industry plant that doesn’t reflect the current state of hip hop

@Wheresthepepsibismol

4 жыл бұрын

Jumex is named after a Spanish juice brand plus he makes shitty mumble rap

I remember that song! I was 21 in 1998. And the world was about to start sucking big time within the next 10 years. Musically it was dying already but that's a different story.

@whatever5922

4 жыл бұрын

I was a few months old

Great video!

@glennso47

3 жыл бұрын

Cher is over anyway.

I adore the whole AOL/ iMac G3 theme!

It never actually fell. It's often used by people who don't "need it" as it's timbre is desirable for modern pop music and has been for quite some time now. For example Bruno Mars is insanely talented and can hit every pitch perfectly, but he uses Autotune on more mild back tasteful setting to subtly give it's modern pop flair in his production. Also it's very common in pop rock and country and has been used for awhile in both as well.

That Boss Vocoder is only a few years old as far as I know. 2016 I think. He probably used an older Vocoder device that probably wasn't a pedal.

Bon Iver used Harmony Engine as well, you forgot to mention that. Glad you actually mentioned that autotune isn’t just that robotic sound too. Wish these videos would show graphical mode to explain how people actually use it.

Time to listen to all the songs that were on this video

The uptalking in this video is brutal. Couldn’t finish. Can we use autotune to correct the end of all her sentences?

@steven_porter

4 жыл бұрын

Funny you mention this... I'm a sound engineer for music and video and I've actually used Melodyne (auto tune's main competitor) to do just that. A lot of times interviews sound like this, and editing the pitch down at the end of a sentence helps a ton.

@tyjuarez

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-vn7ky2xr1x Guys do it too? it's crazy? I live in California? and it's inescapable?

@bekind8243

4 жыл бұрын

I’m a speech language pathologist? And I’m happy that I’m not the only one annoyed by this trend? I really didn’t notice it as much in this video as in other videos by twenty somethings?

@axelvetter

4 жыл бұрын

I'm a video producer and former TV presenter. If a talent speaks like that in front of my camera I teach her or him how to do it and shoot another take. And I ask to drop the accent. The video is meant for the world, not a local area.

@Tuberex

4 жыл бұрын

Not hating on her but she sounds like she is about to cry

How do people like T-Pain do concerts if their whole album is autotuned?

@Jaqen-HGhar

4 жыл бұрын

you can use autotune live, not to mention T-Pain can actually sing he just chooses to use it cause he likes the way it sounds.

@pcfllms

3 жыл бұрын

Jaqen H'Ghar - that’s what I love about him. His singing is incredible!

@karmina6320

3 жыл бұрын

Travis Scott literally has autotune in his concerts lol hahshas he even has this video where he fell of the stage while his autotune was on that was funny af haahhaha He also has a video where he fought with a security with autotune on lol he a joke but his music is a bop not gonna lie

@carlosroman7900

3 жыл бұрын

His natural voice is actually really strong. Watch his performances on the masked singer. And he won the contest.

Does anyone know the name of all the songs used in the video?

This episode deserves to be longer.

This girl's voice got me wanting to burn ants with a magnifying glass.

@electron2601

4 жыл бұрын

Its because she's forcing her self to sound different then what she actually sounds. Naturally this is something that will annoy anyone psychologically.

If I have a lot of time to record, I’ll try my best to get a great take on my own. However if I’m limited on time, I have no shame in using slight pitch correction to fix a take that was almost there. While I do prefer the sound of a naturally sang performance, the value of pitch correction software in the age of home recording cannot be understated.

This whole video is a nostalgia trip.

I worked at a coffee shop where "do you believe in life after love" came on the music system at least 8 times in a 5-hour shift. I still have mental scars when it comes on.

"rise and fall of autotune:" .... doesn't even mention the fall.

@sillygoose635

4 жыл бұрын

they did... did you not watch the whole thing?

I use auto tune a lot. You can get great results if you use it carefully. Im not a great singer so it definitely helps

Those songs from 1999/2000 take me back!

YAAASS CHER CHANGE WORLD OF MUSIC

Geophysicist here. We were doing stupid stuff like this back in the 80's with digital signal processing. Problem was we were limited to file sizes no where near big enough to handle a 3 minute song, and processors that could definitely not work in real time. Still... it was fun.... Anyways... just like to apologize on behalf of my profession for letting this loose on the world.....

No, the standard practice in the 90s (and before) was to (mostly) hire people that could sing in pitch and musicians who could play live.

@danzirvine

2 жыл бұрын

Though comping was a technique used starting in the early 80's, just not all the time unlike present day were it is common place in tandem with pitch correction.

Nice work telling the story. I struggle with Autotune. I’m a singer/musician and refuse to use it. But sometimes I enjoy it when I hear it. Overall tho I think it has taken a lot of life and integrity out of music.

Madam up talk hid it a lot better in this video good job.

Well it is just an art form that a lot of people tend to dig. As much as I dislike autotune, if thats how people earn their money, be my guest.

@RalphDratman

4 жыл бұрын

Ok, but we do not have to listen to music that has been so processed. We are free to ignore it if we wish.

@djdigital3806

4 жыл бұрын

@@RalphDratman I'm a keyboard synthenzier 🎹 player. The 80's was defined by the Digital keyboard synthenzier. Today Artist can't sing, can't read music or even know how to program a keyboard synthenzier! Resulting in a decline of quality music after the 80's🤔

Autotune is for people who can't sing but won't stop trying.

@justinbeamon6624

4 жыл бұрын

Lol that means no one in the industry can sing then.

Ali Larkin always so adorable!! She turns any subject into something interesting!

Awesome Ali Larkin

and you've probably never heard of Roger and Larry Troutman of the Zapp Band. smh!

@adrianagflores5587

4 жыл бұрын

I swear I was going to do a Roger and Zapp comment . They are first ones that came to my mind .

@izzojunior

4 жыл бұрын

🤦🏿‍♂️, of course you knew that they would...

@cheetahluv210

4 жыл бұрын

It’s more of a talkbox though

@Donmenon

4 жыл бұрын

That wasn't autotune mate. It was a device known as a talkbox. "Troutman was well known for his use of the talkbox, a device that is connected to an instrument (frequently a keyboard) to create different vocal effects. Roger used a custom-made talkbox-the Electro Harmonix “Golden Throat,” as well as a Yamaha DX100 FM synthesizer"

I was 17 in 1998 when Cher released "Believe." I hated it then and I still hate it in 2020

Props to you for featuring Blue - Eiffel 65!

I believe!

She pronounced "Rappa Ternt Sanga" wrong. How dare she disrespect T-Pain's beautiful wordage and poetry.

auto tune is in everything, used with instruments and voice. amazing tool.

@tay2944

4 жыл бұрын

Austin Martín Hernández not everyone that used auto tune needs it. Tpain is a great singer but he uses it in his music as a signature sound.

@mr.commenter7953

4 жыл бұрын

@Austin Martín Hernández stfu!

@anmolhaze

4 жыл бұрын

@Austin Martín Hernández agreed.

@anmolhaze

4 жыл бұрын

Light autotune is ok but autotune nowadays is just blatantly abused in modern pop music. They are just too dependant on autotune itself

you can't beat the original ATR-1 hardware...love it!

This should be retitled: The Meteoric Rise of Autotune! It's actually more popular than ever.

I really enjoy Cheddar's content, but there's a lack of quality control in some of these videos. It's crazy to me that no one had the presenter go back and fix all the blatant pronunciation errors. She mispronounced "Bon Iver", "timbre", and "vocoder." At least have her fix all those times she said "vocorder" instead. These little errors really diminish Cheddar's credibility.

@terriblereading7586

4 жыл бұрын

/boʊn iːˈvɛər/ is the correct way to say bon iver, I don't know what you are on about

@automaticmattywhack1470

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. She also mispronounced the name of the the guy's company. It's an tar' ez not an tar' is.

@gracezb1

4 жыл бұрын

JVR she said “bon eyever” but it’s pronounced “bone ee vair” (last syllable like air)

@vilwarin5635

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe she is not English speaker or just have a different accent

@tomhannon8066

4 жыл бұрын

The next piece of software to make incompetent twats seem talented will be AutoPronouncer...

It also heavily shaped emocore and 2010 crabcore

Very nice 👍🏼

MacOS 9 + the og iMac aesthetic (i love it)

Honestly I think that quantisation has done a lot more damage. Everything sounds as if it were produced by machines instead of human performers.

@gigngamer

4 жыл бұрын

Quantisation / compression / autotune

@erichobbs4042

4 жыл бұрын

@@gigngamer Yeah, compression, or rather over compression, is another annoying technique.

ah yes, when having 320p video resolution on your apple computer made your friends jealous.

As far as I know, and I think the band members themselves talked about it in some video on KZread, "Blue" by Eiffel 65 doesn't use autotune but rather a harmonizer. It's a similar thing but rather than automatically tuning the voice it harmonizes it with a second signal, like a vocoder on steroids, in this case I think the second signal was the digital piano used throughout the song.

7:43-8:02 brought back so many memories for me

More like “The history of Cher and some auto tune fall”

this channel should have 5 mil subs

@Official_KC

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. It's like what I wish Vox was. I honestly can't believe it isn't more popular. I think as time goes on, it'll get a bigger following

@solokom

4 жыл бұрын

if they keep it up like that, they will get there ...

Nice!

Great informative video! However sometimes you showed the Mic Mod EFX plugin (used for saturating the voice and making it sound deeper and richer) instead of the actual autotune plugin. By the way: Autotune is not the only way to manipulate the pitch of a singers voice. You can also use melodyne, with which goes much deeper and you can change every single aspect of the sung notes. The only difference between those two is tgat melodyne is manual pitch correction, and autotune automatic pitch correction👌