Rahman spoke about RD on couple of occasions - 1. A young boy i know won a comptt in Dubai , which led him to sing with Rahman on stage - when he told Rahman that he wanted to become a music composer, Rahman asked him to listen to Pancham’s music and learn how to use jazz in songs 2. When judging a reality show with Javed Akhtar , Rahman vehemently praised the song Kya hua tera wada for being an angry song yet being melodious and not loud or over the top 3. In an interview, he said songs of 1942 are actually almost like bhajans turned into love songs and love for God is supreme and hence these songs are divine 4. A friend saw Rahman with 2 firangs in Taj Lands End’s cafe , listening to Bade ache lagte hain and he was making them listen to RDs singing in interlude and was loudly appreciating it

@trpdelhi

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this :)

@panchampaagals8272

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know this

@gautamnath8199

2 жыл бұрын

Great

@hariharanpnarayanaswami3642

2 жыл бұрын

That's Pancham the master of all nuances technics tactics melody rhytum harmony. Cannot b compared.

Overwhelming when younger generations like you said "RD was RD" RD THE BOSS

I grew up obsession with my Pancham da.. He has given me so much of happiness in my life ..

Ajay Atul has single-handedly changed the Marathi Music Industry. They brought Marathi Cinema and its music to its glory & also they pulled crowds outside Maharashtra towards Marathi music through their amazing sense of melody and musicianship. When you talk about IMPACT just think, people who don't understand Marathi are fan of their Marathi music & I am one of the biggest examples of it. Even Rahman's early Tamil work only became popular (within non Tamil people) when it was dubbed in Hindi. Listen to their album like Natarang to understand what they can bring to the table. That album has everything for everyone without loosing quality of musicianship. Odd time signatures, Neo-classical interludes, Amazing melodies, Arrangements, selection of Chords, use of percussion is just mind boggling. When I asked my one of my Marathi friends to suggest me music similar to Natarang , He replied - " Nothing in the history of Marathi Cinema (Lavani Music) has been composed, sounded like Natarang. The way Ajay Atul composed Music for Natarang, no one has done it before so you won't find any. Though many musicians/ composers used orchestra in their songs none used it the way Ajay Atul used it for their song Yad lagla. The orchestra throughout the song is simply mind-boggling. It's like a different song within a song. when one listens to it carefully realizes how musically complex it is and yet melodically so easy to remember. People with musical knowledge and those who pay attention to Musical arrangement can understand the level of musicianship that happens underneath / behind the vocal melodies in most of the Ajay Atul Compositions. Most of their compositions are musical universities in themselves. If we dig a little deep and talk about Raagas Just listen to O Saiyyan from Agneepath, how that song changes Raaga midway and comes back to Charukesi again. One more song that comes to mind is "Jiv Rangala". Now about being "Timeless" or "Standing the test of time" are probably the biggest gimmicks we have ever created. If these terms were true RD Burman wouldn't have disappeared in the 80's. Let me give an example - There was a time when RD Burman stopped getting work in 80's, because people weren't enjoying his off beat music. music has changed lot over the years. In the 80's and 90's we had music with fat rhythm and lots of orchestral. Then all of sudden we had Rahman in the 90's (Who practically replaced Ilayaraja Saab in south) brought synthesizer and not only changed the sound but also changed the way of song arrangement. Eg - Roja, Bombay , Thiruda Thiruda. By the time we came to late 90's and 2000's all of sudden non film music (Mostly Pop) started gaining popularity and then suddenly we moved on to remixes where everybody started remixing old songs. By the time we reached 2010 techno-pop, House music, electronic, hip hop started gaining popularity. Now all of sudden people started missing 90's music which they disliked in the early 2000's. Even if you closely study you will realize how the composing style of Rahman in the 90's, 2000's, 2010 till now has changed according to the need of that particular generation. If there was a formula to timeless Music every musician would have followed that but in reality no such thing exists. A casual listener's taste will change as per the trend whereas a serious musician/ music listener will keep listening to what is musically good. If you just want to understand the level of mastery they have achieved in composing orchestral music just listen to the link below. kzread.info/dash/bejne/q6Nop5Kth6rJhpc.html PS - Even Rahman and Shankar Mahdevan are fan of Ajay Atul's music. Many connoisseurs of Music praised Ajay Atul for their abilities. In one of their concerts Hariharanji Said, "Ajay Atul are like combination of ARR and Ilayaraja. Shbuha Mudgal wrote an an entire article just to appreciate their music in Natarang and became their fan. People often think that Ajay Atul are new musicians because they got their opportunity in bollywood in 2011/12. but they released their first album "Vishwavinayaka" in 2001. A devotional album composed in such a way that even Shankar Mahadevan said he never heard anything like that before. These guys are here to stay and I am sure next generation or even current generation will be discussing their music in time to come.

@pratikbari5141

3 жыл бұрын

Your comment made my day!!! I am also a bhakt of Ajay Atul's compositions. Being a Marathi, I have listened almost all of their Marathi and Hindi work. Can you please give me link of any of the links of the comments on Ajay Atul, I just want to know more. Or any interview about them if you can recommend. Just listening to their interviews teaches so much about music composition

@Dreamnecronevermore

3 жыл бұрын

@@pratikbari5141 1. Shubha Mudgal Article - www.livemint.com/Opinion/kB3xubW3TVvAwx3LTvYc6H/Music-sans-borders.html 2. A R Rahman Interview facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1189329311106701 There's one more video of Rahman with Arijit Singh where he mentions Ajay Atul. 3. There was a video of Hariharanji singing Jiv Rangla in a concert where he said Ajay Atul is like a combination of Ilayaraja and ARR 4. Search for tweets by Shreya Ghoshal, she praised them multiple times. 5. Sukhwinder singh in Multiple interviews said that Ajay Atul will bring Next International Award like Grammy or Oscars. www.hindustantimes.com/music/dance-numbers-bring-out-the-best-in-me-sukhwinder-singh/story-6XPVg80pqOvCDHIoKwTRtJ.html There are many articles you will find on internet.

@MAU9820.

2 жыл бұрын

Ajay Atul both are limited sphere !!!!!they can not play any instruments except synthesizer!! very limited having limitations !!!!natarang is inspired by PINJARA MUSIC BY GREAT HON RAM KADAM SAHEB.LISTEN CAREFULLY

@Dreamnecronevermore

2 жыл бұрын

@@MAU9820. I have heard Pinjara, and it’s an amazing album but has nothing on Natarang. Natarang is in league of its own. Ajay plays guitar as well. And since when playing an instrument became a criteria to be a great musician? Ajay Plays Synth, Guitar. Even though I am not Marati I have probably heard more Marati music than you did in last few years just because of Ajay Atul. Ranging from pt. Hridaynath Mangeshkar to Pt. Jitendra Abhisheki to Ashok Patki to Ram Kadam and many more. No offence, but few of Marati friends told me that many marati Brahmins are jealous of Ajay Atul, are you one of them?

@BB-lh7xf

2 жыл бұрын

@@MAU9820. देशी दारू पीऊन कॉमेंट केली वाटते जोश्याने. पिंजरा आणि नटरंगचे संगीत एकसारखे कुठुन वाटले याला काय माहीत. नक्की कानानेच गानी ऐक़ता ना तुम्ही? अजय अतुल एवढे अश्टपैलू संगीतकार नाही झाले मराठीमधे आणि म्हणे लिमिटेड sphere आहे. आपण सांगितिक असे काय केले आयुष्यात? काही केले असेल तर पोस्ट करा आम्हालाही आवडेल तुमच संगीत ऐकायला. घरात नाही दाना आणि मला बोला राणा अशी परिस्थिति आहे तुमची.

Share Panchamda....spread Panchamda....Great going guys!

I m obessesed with panchamda... No one can match up to that scale....

Definitely Pancham, the Allrounder Boss of this trade.

Cool stories. I'll try to listen RD Burman and understand him musically.

@trpdelhi

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Go for it.

As a hardcore RD fan, so nice to see his fandom grow 👍👍

@trpdelhi

3 жыл бұрын

He will be evergreen :)

Loving the fact that this young generation is listening rd music. He is the boss.

@trpdelhi

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

Pancham g genius composer par excellence , was ahead of the times.He was alone and sad in his last days . All deserted him . 😭.fan RD g

Bohot Hi Badiya , Informative Aur Accha Discussion Tha R.D. Burman Ko Lekar ! Jo Unke Jaane Key Itne Dino Baad Kisine Kiya !!! Bohot Dino Baad The Greatest R.D. Burman Ko Lekar Itna Accha Baat Suni Hain !!! Aap Logon Ka Aur Yeh Discussion Ka Main Jitni Bhi Chahey Tarif Karlu , Saab Kaam Hain ! I Think This Is The Most Rarest And Extraordinary Discussion Of All Time ! Mujhe Baas Aap Logon Sey Ek Hi Baat Puchna Tha , Ki Woh Aisi Konsi Majburi Thi Ki Pancham Da Ko Producers Ke Wajah Sey Western Music Sey Inspired Hokar Gaaney Bananey Padhtey They ? Mujhe Lagta Hain Bich Mein Aap Log Kuch Aisa Hi Keh Rahey They , Jab Music Copy Ki Baat Aya Tha !!!! Yeh Video Mujhe Bohot Accha Laga , Kyun Ki Main Ek Bohot Hi Bada Diwana Hoon Pancham Da Ka ! Please , Mere Iss Sawal Ka Jawab Dijiyega ! Thanks !! 🙏🏻

Do more discussion like this....we want more

Rd... Lord of music

Bhanu Gupta and RD Burman incident had happened during the making of the Song 'Musafir hoon Yaron' from the film Parichay...

@trpdelhi

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the information sir :)

It is heartening to see youngsters connecting with R D Burman. Just some corrections. The guitar anecdote of Bhanuda happened when he composed Musafir hoon Yaaro. The greatest point here is he heard the guitar riff, and FIRST composed the last line of the mukhda. It was kind of reverse engineering. Secondly, the comb thing in Padosan is actually a Reso Reso, played by Amrutkaka Katkar. Ranjit Gazmer alias Kanchabhai played the Maadal.

@trpdelhi

3 жыл бұрын

Boss toh wahi the❤️

Great going guys. Loved your analysis of RD. Once one listens and likes RD its difficult to like another MD. So true. Evergreen Pancham. Been an aRDent fan since the late 1960s! Have most of his tunes on LP/SP/EP/ Reel to reels and cassettes!

@trpdelhi

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks sir. More follow up podcasts incoming. We will get into SD Burman and Naushad sahab now🙏

One major point you are missing is lack of technology back then and live orchestration

Panchamda was not only the most versatile , he excelled in all genres from Indian Classica,l Folk,Jazz,Latino ,Pop. His childhood was learning Sarod from Ustad Ali Akbar Khan and Tabla from Brojen Biswas and then Pandit Shamtaprasad. He also played the Sarod of one line at a tender age for the prelude of his great father in a Bengali song , Ghum Bhulechi Ami later converted into the masterpiece , Hum Bekhudi Mein rendered impeccably by Md.Rafi. His peppiest songs freaks us out, his romantic ballads turn us emotional, his many unique classical numbers mesmerise . He was the absolute champion of rhythms, harmony and melody. Though he brought synthesisers in Bollywood music, he never compromised with acoustic music and had 80 to 100 expert musicians giving out their best . There were umpteen rehearsals those days with singers and musicians and because he also was involved in recording with outstanding sound engineers, his music without today's ample technology , sound fresh at all times. He introduced new rhythm patterns, various polyphonic scales , endless number of percussion and other instruments, complicated chords but never ever compromised with melody and even his antaras are equally melodic. We have many outstanding music directors in Bollywood each with their unique style but the sheer innovative compositions of all genres of song with equal efficiency made the staying power of Panchamda's music immortal. His popularity is growing from peak to peak. A.R.Rahman , SEL are also outstanding in their arena and of course Illayraja is a most revered genius but Panchamda lives forever

Nothing.. No one can touch RD's legacy & body of work

At 19:06 it’s chingari koi from Amar Prem

RD may quite possibly outlive every contemporary music composer who has evolved after him

Another RD albums which were seriously great were zindagani and rusvai around 88 and 89. Amazing music

19:26 the song was musafir hoon yarron

We were neighbours from my childhood and I had the great fortune of visiting his recordings! blessed to have known him closely !

@trpdelhi

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my god 😁. Would love to meet and discuss more ❤️

@rajeevkashikar6446

3 жыл бұрын

@@trpdelhi sure we should as things improve! I am in bandra

@rajeevkashikar6446

3 жыл бұрын

@@trpdelhi there r quite a few things around RD that are presented inaccurately ( in general )

@rajeevkashikar6446

3 жыл бұрын

@@trpdelhi hope to be in touch! Cheers

R.. D. Burman is india film industry Boss as a music director my think complete music director example sholay film se background music nikal do aap ko pata chal jayega mere liye God hain par aap logo ko ek naam lena chahiye tha salil choudhary ji ka jab ki ek bangali babu waha pe hain aap ka ye Apisode pura nahi hua ek salil choudhary pe banaiye jo bhi hai pancham da jaisa na koi hai na koi tha na koi hoga ( Ilayaraja ji ke ghar pe ek bada sa photo laga hua hai Salil choudhary ji ka ilayaraja jinka fan hoga o kya hoga?????????)

1 more addition - when Bhanuda was practicing outside n Panchamda was taking bath, he heard the guitar cords n composed the ending tune of Musafir hun yaro. “Muze chalte jana hai.. bus chalte jaana”. Based on that later on he composed mukhda n antara.

@ranju56

3 жыл бұрын

Very true

LEGENDARY GURUJI PANCHAMDA

Good attempt by you guys, thanks . ... RD Burman is ocean of music

RDB was on a big comeback trail! Several top directors signed him around the time he passed away!

Around the time he passed away RD Burman was rebuilding his team ... Maruti rao, sapan chakravarty, deepen chatterjee, Bhupendra had left and masters like kersi lord, cawas lord had retired

Yes that's what it has come down too. So Kumar rahul dev BURMAN lives on and grows with every second. But what respect youngsters remember him. At leas t rafi saab got a saab from them. But still The power of true music is catching on.. Now the orchestra of kumar rahul dev BURMAN is so huge that still cannot be touched

One and only Pancham Da..... RD BURMAN is the Mozart or Mozart was RDB

Filmfare which was the only award in those days..gave award to RD Burman only couple of times...but named award on his name after seeing the country react to Panchams death....also the Guide movie which is considered all time great didn't get best music award... S D Burman was heart broken... don't forget RD Burman was assistant to his father in this film and you can clearly see that in some of the songs of Guide

Great conversation guys / Pancham da - A music genius , The Boss , and a leader by passion / Rest - just money minting Bosses .... Pancham da no doubt was , and shall be an inspiration ....

@trpdelhi

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed man. But, the rest of them made some noteworthy contribution too. Nothing touches Pancham Da though.

Madness & calculations never go together

Just clarifying that Nitin shankar wasn't rhythm arranger but maruti rao keer! Nitin came around 1990 or so when RD was almost done!

Apart from the RD Gulzar movies you mentioned there is some awwsum music by this combo including in doosri Sita, Naram garam, angoor, kitaab, khubsurat, golmaal, Naukar, masoom, Ghar, Kinara, Khushboo to name a few

@trpdelhi

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. He is the greatest, no question.

So informative!

@trpdelhi

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

I also feel, some great potential these Musicians have and they have given music which could have inspired RDB in some manner (hypothetically): 1. Vanraj Bhatia 2. Vijju Shah 3. Ismile Darbaar

@trpdelhi

3 жыл бұрын

All three absolute legends in their own space. Totally agreed.

Did Pamchamda played the mouth organ in Sholay or Bhanuda? I think it was Bhanuda.

@ranju56

3 жыл бұрын

It was Bhanuda. Panchamda played mouth organ in many S.D.compositions including , Aye Apna Dil to Awara etc and also for Laxmikant Pyarelal for the film Dosti

Ruby Roy is love!!!! and yeah ... i feel after AR..till now none!!!

Only RD burman, he was mozart

Nadeem Shravan has very deep intense melody . Their aruchestrisation is conncting.

Guys best of luck,,,,,talk about king RD.

Listen to the music of Kinara, Khushboo, Ghar, Namkin, devta, sitara, zameen aasman, basera, masoom... RD Gulzar combo

RD Burman's did some of his best work between 1987 to 91 including ijazat, parinda, namumkin, apne apne, libas! He was out post then until Gurudev and of course 1942 a love a story

Guys . Very interesting discussion Glad that younger generation is so strongly hooked on to Pancham. Would like to connect with you on Pancham. There is lot more on Pancham despite the fact that the internet is flooded with Pancham info.

21:41, it is saaton baar bole bansi from album dil padosi hain

@trpdelhi

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

@panchamsmagic2868

3 жыл бұрын

@@trpdelhi Actually I am also a big Rd Burman fan, although I am 14 year old, I have made my channel and I play Rd Burman songs on keyboard

Guide is beyond everything!!!

@trpdelhi

4 жыл бұрын

Greatest album bhai.

@VardaanChawla

4 жыл бұрын

@@trpdelhi Watched the whole film right after watching this podcast and can't thank you guys enough for reconnecting me to my favouite Retro Bollywood Album.

@ranju56

3 жыл бұрын

Kindly note that though the great S.D.Burman composed Guide ,his most able assistant was R.D and he was responsible for musical arrangements and made Pandit Shiv Kumar Sharma play tabla in one song. The father son duo worked from Pyasa to Aradhana and due to the sickness of his esteemed father, he recorded the compositions of his father in Mili

Hon AMRUT RAO KATKAR SAHEB FOR RESSO RESSO ALSO NO MORE 🌺🙏💐😪

RD was genius because 1 thora pagal 2 didn’t have to think out of box - ‘cause he didn’t have any box 3 like a story writer, he visualised, how it would look 4 Team Team Team - wrong to say he was the boss. One of the team members. A member contributes best not as directed, but as consulted. 5 “logon ka kaam hai kahenge “ - he knew an didn’t care. But I don’t have a clue what brought the bad phase. As an analyst, it’s one thing to be gaga over the obvious good, but more importantly what were the ‘bad & ugly’. Don’t u guys (I loved you, else wouldn’t have written so long) agree?

@trpdelhi

3 жыл бұрын

Sir, we'd love to know everything we can. I personally know a few people in Bombay who have worked with him. I wish to get them on the podcast soon.

Pancham da ke baare me jisko pata nahi hai, wo log unke music se jaan lenge

What about sneha kanwalkar? Love her soundtracks from oye lucky , gangs of wasseypur and her show sound trippin'.

@trpdelhi

4 жыл бұрын

She is great too. Love her work :)

That bathroom story 19:20 it's "musafir hun yaron" song from Parichay, not Sholay tune

Pancham da, Rahman, SEL and Pancham remixes.....

👍🏼👍🏼

But he turned that to his advantages

Great informative discussions...but How LP means only "Rythm"....have u guys forgot " Chalo Sajna , Jahan tak ghata chale"? .....Although I am a Pancham admirer yet I can not ignore the truth

RD cannot be compared to anyone. Unfortunately, don't appreciate Rehman much coz his music just doesnt come across. Yes, Rehman did have a very distinct sound, but still only a few of his albums touch your heart. The soul is missing somewhere. Aur jo gaana dil ko naa lage, wo technically kitna bhi sound ho, fayada nahi. Thirdly, Shankar ehsaan Loy don't even deserve to be put in the same pedestal of RD and Rehman kyonki inhone overall aisa kuch out of the box nahi kiya h. Dil chahta h chorkar kuch aur khaas nahi h. Again, guys this is my personal opinion

@subhajitpaul966

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah , You're 1000% Right !!! These Are Facts !

Please do not compare Jatin Lalit with GREAT HON PANCHAMDA!!!IT IS LIKE A CANDLE BEFORE THE HOLY THE SUN GOD 🙏💐!

Sabka Bose Rd

Guys Pritam has given some good numbers

@santoshm2008

2 жыл бұрын

True

Amit trivedi

Pritam...

ARR IS VERY MEDIOCRE!!!! AND PLEASE STUDY CAREFULLY WHILE DISCUSSING ABOUT HON R D BURMAN SIR 💕💕😊🙏💐

RDB ARR SEL Amit Trivedi