The Refit of HMS Hood - But what if she had survived?

Today we look at what might have been, if Hood had survived her clash with Bismarck. Plus some answers to the most common questions from last weeks video on why Hood exploded.
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  • @Drachinifel
    @Drachinifel3 жыл бұрын

    Pinned post for Q&A :)

  • @ViceadmiralNelson

    @ViceadmiralNelson

    3 жыл бұрын

    Question: What if the Bridge personell onboard Prince of Wales had gotten distracted (i.e. by incoming gunfire from Bismarck and/or Prinz Eugen), so that Prince of Wales crashes into the freshly exploding Hood. Would the damage be severe enough to put the Prince of from her fatal deployment to the east, or might it even be so devastating that Bismarck and Prinz Eugen can proceed to sink Prince of Wales as well?

  • @vexi4584

    @vexi4584

    3 жыл бұрын

    Uhm, how do you think would the upgrades affect Hood's speed? Adding armor that much, plus new armaments, would surely affect it. Do you think it's realistic to retain that 30+ knots max speed after refit, or a new engine with more SHP would be used?

  • @ozone-xv7hk

    @ozone-xv7hk

    3 жыл бұрын

    If the Hood successfully managed to land several hits in favorable conditions, do you think the Bismarck could have been severely damaged enough to have stopped right then and there? This is assuming no hits ended up on the Hood.

  • @daysambenjemaa7250

    @daysambenjemaa7250

    3 жыл бұрын

    what do you think would happen if churchill send two heavy and recent aircraft carrier (Illustrious class) or other cv instead of Prince of Wales and Repulse and with more destroyer and cruiser for escort. Personnaly i think singapour would not be taken

  • @joshthomas-moore2656

    @joshthomas-moore2656

    3 жыл бұрын

    Given their number of cruisers and their doctrine for smashing through US Navy cruiser squadrons, would the Japanese have got more effective results out of the Kongo's if they used them in the original battlecruiser role as cruiser killers then trying to use them as battleships?

  • @fyorbane
    @fyorbane Жыл бұрын

    Note of interest. Hood never had a lower red hull. She was painted in an anti fouling grey. So for all you model makers of the Hood, paint her hull grey.

  • @kommandantgalileo

    @kommandantgalileo

    10 ай бұрын

    Pity, a red Hood looks way better

  • @corneliuscrewe8165

    @corneliuscrewe8165

    9 ай бұрын

    Did not know that.

  • @Croatoan140

    @Croatoan140

    9 ай бұрын

    Well atleast there in good company cause in oceonliner designs video it was a Mitch match of red and green in there thumbnail

  • @bigsai4472

    @bigsai4472

    8 ай бұрын

    Did this also apply to other British warships at the time, or was this just applied to Hood only? I'm curious.

  • @kommandantgalileo

    @kommandantgalileo

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@bigsai4472KGV was painted the same way in '41

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue69173 жыл бұрын

    A bit of film trivia. The actor who played the captain of the Prince of Wales in the film Sink The Bismarck, Esmond Knight, was a gunnery offices aboard the Prince of Wales and saw Hood explode. Just after that he was wounded by shrapnel which resulted in the permanent lose of sight in one eye but he received a series of treatments from Dr Vincent Nesfield designed to restore sight to his remaining eye. The treatment was a great success, restoring much of Knight's sight in that eye.

  • @nickgaskell6743

    @nickgaskell6743

    3 жыл бұрын

    Richard Todd played his commanding officer in the Longest day, next to an actor playing himself.

  • @jonsouth1545

    @jonsouth1545

    3 жыл бұрын

    I cannot for the life of me remember the name of the actor but thier was one British actor who was rejected for a part in "The Great Escape" despite being one of the people who had actually taken part in the great escape

  • @jonsouth1545

    @jonsouth1545

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SSN515 I know I'm just trying to remember the name of the other actor who was rejected for the movie despite being one of the escapees. He wasn't a big name actor but had a relitivly solid career doing small parts on both film and TV in the 50s and 60s

  • @sirmalus5153

    @sirmalus5153

    3 жыл бұрын

    This same actor walked around the "set" of the bridge of Prince of Wales, with his eyes closed and used his hands to feel the position of everything. He apparently said that he could tell that everything was in the right place, even though he wasn't looking. A small part in the film maybe, but his deliverance was very memorable and one of those people whome it would have been a privelage to shake hands with and thank for all their efforts on our behalf I think.

  • @anthonybanchero3072

    @anthonybanchero3072

    3 жыл бұрын

    Must have been tough having to recite the line about HMS Hood being blown up. Also, the American reporter was playing himself.

  • @elfinfluff
    @elfinfluff3 жыл бұрын

    Turns out: she would return to us, as HMS Hood the White!

  • @fuzer909

    @fuzer909

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Chris George In our darkest hour, Hood returns.

  • @NashmanNash

    @NashmanNash

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Hood,NOOOOO" "Ahead Flank,you fools"

  • @tommatt2ski

    @tommatt2ski

    3 жыл бұрын

    And Bismarck comes sailing out of the fog bank at flank speed, wearing " the ONE RING OF POWER " !

  • @CaptainColdyron222

    @CaptainColdyron222

    2 жыл бұрын

    This new Hood’s more grumpy than the old one.

  • @VersusARCH
    @VersusARCH3 жыл бұрын

    [The space between the rear funnel and the rear mast] "The Americans would put AA mounts there, the Germans would add a catapult, and Japan would put another turret... While the British made sure the Hood has the best tea-making facilities ever put on to sea" xD

  • @anaveragesoviettankfromthe70s

    @anaveragesoviettankfromthe70s

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hmm, is that perhaps a Yuro reference?

  • @xavierblackler5861

    @xavierblackler5861

    3 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣 Plantation of tea trees onboard hood

  • @jimmyt4598

    @jimmyt4598

    3 жыл бұрын

    No wonder it got tea-bagged. And it's disappointing to see that the historically accurate camo doesn't show the ship in two separate pi......static

  • @philvanderlaan5942

    @philvanderlaan5942

    3 жыл бұрын

    And the french would add room service, a concierge, and a trendy if overpriced bistro... oh wait that's just predreadnoughts.

  • @anthonyfeliciano5533

    @anthonyfeliciano5533

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its a Yuro reference, quoted from Hot Majestick Shtick(How to Hood)

  • @J4CKAL05
    @J4CKAL053 жыл бұрын

    Father: "I'm so disappointed, how could you fail that exam?!" Son: "Just bad luck. Now, if that one cod in the North Atlantic had swum left instead of right..."

  • @CS-zn6pp

    @CS-zn6pp

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, it was that Bolivian hummingbird that caused me to fail my driving test..... 🙄

  • @owo5869

    @owo5869

    2 жыл бұрын

    Plot twist: The son was talking to his father admiral Holland alone at night circa 1945

  • @MrCamelBeans
    @MrCamelBeans3 жыл бұрын

    The model of a refitted Hood is gorgeous. Beautiful ship.

  • @kaijudirector5336

    @kaijudirector5336

    3 жыл бұрын

    I personally believe a refitted Hood would have been the most beautiful ship ever made if they made her that way.

  • @aguywhodoesntexist

    @aguywhodoesntexist

    3 жыл бұрын

    Elongated New Orleans class

  • @535phobos

    @535phobos

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kaijudirector5336 I politely disagree, as I hate that castle superstructure of modernized british ships, but of course it depends on personal taste. I like tripod masts.

  • @johnbockelie3899

    @johnbockelie3899

    3 жыл бұрын

    The H.M.S.HOOD was launched in 1920. By the time she was sunk she was 21 years old. Bismarck was launched in 1939. 2/ 14 / 39.

  • @johnjephcote7636

    @johnjephcote7636

    3 жыл бұрын

    I kept going back and ogling it. Not as tall as the Vanguard (which I remember) but a Hood/Vanguard mix and more elegant than Lord Strabolgi's 'super battleship'.

  • @derekmcmanus8615
    @derekmcmanus86153 жыл бұрын

    My late father remembered his father cursing a storm when the sinking of the Hood was announced on the radio.

  • @ki-youngjang4067

    @ki-youngjang4067

    3 жыл бұрын

    He must have been extremely happy once the news that Bismarck sank came in.

  • @philvanderlaan5942

    @philvanderlaan5942

    3 жыл бұрын

    I find it rather ironic that two ships that through the 20s and 30s were seen as if not the actual flagships but the spiritual flagships of their respective fleets. Both were destroyed in similar circumstances in the same year.

  • @felipeball7778

    @felipeball7778

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ki-youngjang4067 bismarck become submarine

  • @calebdoty9090

    @calebdoty9090

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@philvanderlaan5942 Well Bismarck was only launched in 1939, so it didn't spend the 20s and 30s doing anything.

  • @philvanderlaan5942

    @philvanderlaan5942

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@calebdoty9090 ship I was thinking of was USS Arizona

  • @cannonfodder4376
    @cannonfodder43763 жыл бұрын

    2:20 "But.. some minor change somewhere, butterfly in central park, a cod that swam left instead of right, a wisp of cloud that changed the surface temperature on a small patch of the ocean near the Azores. Whatever." I just love your deadpan delivery of that line.

  • @nathanbrown8680

    @nathanbrown8680

    3 жыл бұрын

    He said butterfly not bus flying.

  • @gokbay3057

    @gokbay3057

    3 жыл бұрын

    Azores

  • @pedenharley6266

    @pedenharley6266

    3 жыл бұрын

    This was perfect

  • @carygrant8796

    @carygrant8796

    3 жыл бұрын

    Chaos theory!

  • @Rustsamurai1

    @Rustsamurai1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ditto

  • @ruypavancardim7512
    @ruypavancardim75123 жыл бұрын

    Two lucky strikes against seemingly impossible odds, one made Hood explode in mere seconds, the other doomed Bismark to her protracted, but no less certain agonizing death. Ares was certainly in some very bad mood those days.

  • @immort4730

    @immort4730

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly Hood had a more fitting death than HMS Repulse being bombed to death by planes, or even worse, HMS Renown being sold for scrap.

  • @matthewcaughey8898

    @matthewcaughey8898

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hood and Bismarck lay on the ocean floor exactly 1100 miles from each other

  • @marhawkman303

    @marhawkman303

    Жыл бұрын

    heh, I personalyl have to wonder if all the ideas about needing to penetrate X thickness of armor... maybe the trick is that it wasn't? Maybe the Germans got lucky enough to hit a damaged armor plate? I dunno.

  • @cjp8u2

    @cjp8u2

    Жыл бұрын

    @@immort4730 I’m sure the crew of HMS Renown are quite a bit happier.

  • @Cooldude-ko7ps

    @Cooldude-ko7ps

    Жыл бұрын

    @@immort4730 yeah, at least Hood died in battle.

  • @admiralholland3996
    @admiralholland39963 жыл бұрын

    Plot twist: I actually survived this

  • @TankerBricks

    @TankerBricks

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sire. You made no attempt to escape from the bridge.

  • @augustosolari7721

    @augustosolari7721

    3 жыл бұрын

    You been noughty, sir.

  • @lbs7866

    @lbs7866

    3 жыл бұрын

    Much lol sir

  • @auntieh.4784

    @auntieh.4784

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'll blame you for that...

  • @nitsu2947

    @nitsu2947

    3 жыл бұрын

    sire, what happened ??

  • @TJRsongs
    @TJRsongs3 жыл бұрын

    Fun story - my grandfather drove for the Admiralty during the war. He picked up two giant propellers for the Hood from the shipyard in Scotland and drove them all the way down to the south coast for a refit, with a police escort. Bought a paper when he got there, and read the news that she'd been sunk. Eventually had to drive the props all the way back up to Scotland. We're all part of history in our own small way I guess eh.

  • @emperorflare8911

    @emperorflare8911

    3 жыл бұрын

    What was his reaction when Hood sank?

  • @awhahoo

    @awhahoo

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@emperorflare8911 Likely a mixture of “good god” “this was a massive waste of time” and “im gonna rip hitlers ball off” Edit: balls changed to ball, hitler had only a singular ball

  • @harryjohnson9215

    @harryjohnson9215

    2 жыл бұрын

    My great uncle was transferred from hood to a K.G. 5 battleship a week before she left for the Denmark straight

  • @robertcottam8824

    @robertcottam8824

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@harryjohnson9215 Similarly, a good dhildhood friend of my dad - a real 'fireeater' by all accounts, transferred to submarines so he could see some 'real action'. He survived the war. The world is a strange old place.

  • @harryjohnson9215

    @harryjohnson9215

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertcottam8824 it is indeed

  • @williambradley9419
    @williambradley94193 жыл бұрын

    Hood was lost 80 years ago this morning, though its heartening to see that all these years later she and the 1415 men who were lost with her, have not been forgotten. Respect to their memory.

  • @Bruce-1956

    @Bruce-1956

    8 ай бұрын

    A boy sailors who was adopted by my maternal grandmother was one of the 1415. #wewillrememberthem

  • @louisthibaudeau2504
    @louisthibaudeau25043 жыл бұрын

    This is so perfect. Drach really out did himself on this one. It doesn't even really feel like a What If, it feels like a normal episode in the history of a ship. It's slightly underwhelming... just like in real life. Drach restrained himself and didn't try to make it cool, he made it accurate. It's realistic to a scary extent. And unlike many what if, no one is out of character, what causes the change is extremely probable. And am completely stunned by this amazing video.

  • @jeebus6263

    @jeebus6263

    3 жыл бұрын

    Do note, any discussion outside of hood in Falklands is strictly prohibited.

  • @SephirothRyu

    @SephirothRyu

    3 жыл бұрын

    Meanwhile, in any game that lets me build ships, I tend to just make them into really big catamarans or trimarans. Or failing this, I would make it a pseudo-catamaran in which the two hulls are somewhat fused together, such that the profile of the vessel is somewhat W shape rather than the somewhat bulbous U-V shape of normal hulls. The real question (for me in this situation) is whether its viable to make a shallower turret. A W-hull which is shorter than a normal ship would of course be stable, and wouldn't need much armor for the upper bottom of the "W" part. So if the height of the ship (in terms of the total hull) were a bit less, then you start taking advantage of having less surface area you need to put armor on, as well as less stability issues from putting heavy armor on the wider deck (which is needed if we consider bombs from above). If you wanted to be really ambitious for the era, you could widen the "W" further and put wings in the bottom gap as basically hydrofoils to allow it to move a number of knots faster (Maybe 3-5? its not some modern lightweight hydrofoil we are talking about here). I wonder. We've seen the famous Russian "pancake" ship. But have there been any other interesting non-standard hull experiments in the past 500 years? I mean, there was also kinda the turtle ship, but it was still mostly a normal ship with just extra armor and basically made to NOT have a deck (it was designed to counter a navy that liked to board enemy ships, and did so very well by being loaded with heavy armor and high power, short range guns pointing everywhere to just make a huge mess of things... but the hull itself wasn't very special). Before things like a few modern stealth ship designs, how often have navies tried looking into non-standard hulls, or multi-hull designs, and so forth?

  • @jeebus6263

    @jeebus6263

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SephirothRyu basically you loose speed, the length of the waterline is a determining factor. A wider beam gives you a longer waterline when heeled over but this applies more to sailing ships than the post-steam era, typically speed is a key metric.

  • @Thurman321
    @Thurman3213 жыл бұрын

    The thought of hood blasting some poor Argentine position out of existance with 15 inch guns is... just... what a world we might have made

  • @captain61games49

    @captain61games49

    3 жыл бұрын

    It would have been amazingly 🤩

  • @IO-hh2fz

    @IO-hh2fz

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not just that, with Vanguard as a CV and modernised instead of Victorious the RN might save enough money (even while placing Hood in reserve) to make a good case for britain needing the CVA-01 class more than the TSR-2. In that case it would be Hood and 1-2 full fleet carriers carrying proper naval strike aircraft (instead of just VTOL Harriers) all bearing down on the Falklands. Yeah, that would be a bad time to be in the argentine armed forces.

  • @g.p.vershner5126

    @g.p.vershner5126

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@IO-hh2fz Chances are that Argentina would not have invaded if Britain had a full fleet carrier.

  • @MrDirigible

    @MrDirigible

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ironically enough, if Hood was somehow present with at the Falklands, I don't think the Argentinian Navy would have even attempted a sortie and the Belgrano would have stayed in port and finished out its days probably being scrapped in the 2000s. The possibility of a shootout between the Belgrano and the Hood while a wet dream for naval enthusiasts would have been impossible unless the Belgrano was able to somehow close range and use her faster rate of fire to eliminate Hood's fire control and command sections of the ship.

  • @DarkFire515

    @DarkFire515

    3 жыл бұрын

    The other nice thing about that scenario is that had Hood returned from the Falklands as the victorious flagship of the expeditionary force, scrapping her would have lead to a huge public outcry and she'd probably be a museum ship by now.

  • @taccovert4
    @taccovert43 жыл бұрын

    HMS Renown: Gifted with Jellicoe's/Iron Duke's Aimbot HMS Hood: Gifted with Beatty's/Queen Mary's rotten luck, experienced slight turbulence and then exploded.

  • @gokbay3057

    @gokbay3057

    3 жыл бұрын

    more like "cursed"

  • @Doge5600

    @Doge5600

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gokbay3057 blursed, beautiful and cursed

  • @ISD_Harbinger

    @ISD_Harbinger

    3 жыл бұрын

    Totally speechless. 😶😶

  • @jameshailerthepostmaster4389

    @jameshailerthepostmaster4389

    3 жыл бұрын

    Be a Jellicoe not a Beatty

  • @seanshi2945
    @seanshi29453 жыл бұрын

    Hood goes to US for refit 🤔 give her 8 twin 5”/38 mounts and ALL the 40mm bofors 😈

  • @admiralholland3996

    @admiralholland3996

    3 жыл бұрын

    How US place AA guns: do you see free spaces ? Why are there free spaces? Put AA gun there

  • @ph89787

    @ph89787

    3 жыл бұрын

    All the Bofors and all the Oerlikons

  • @1IbramGaunt

    @1IbramGaunt

    3 жыл бұрын

    "how many AA guns should we put on HMS Hood?" Royal Navy: "yes" 😂😎

  • @davidbrennan660

    @davidbrennan660

    3 жыл бұрын

    All

  • @Zarcondeegrissom

    @Zarcondeegrissom

    3 жыл бұрын

    Royal Navy: just a refit, enough to do the job will do. US shipyard; ignore them, I see more room for a gun there there there there there...... Royal Navy: (look of dread)

  • @TruckingShooter
    @TruckingShooter3 жыл бұрын

    She was a beautiful ship.

  • @fritzfeuerdorn2833

    @fritzfeuerdorn2833

    3 жыл бұрын

    In my opinion the refit version Drach has shown looks very good. But the original one.. I personally can't stand it.

  • @1IbramGaunt

    @1IbramGaunt

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fritzfeuerdorn2833 fully agreed about the refit but why can't you stand the original?

  • @1IbramGaunt

    @1IbramGaunt

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fritzfeuerdorn2833 or, given that username is this just a German engineering vs British engineering thing hahaha (kidding, kidding)

  • @fritzfeuerdorn2833

    @fritzfeuerdorn2833

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@1IbramGaunt I've been found out! Abord!

  • @davidbrennan660

    @davidbrennan660

    3 жыл бұрын

    See would have been a “head turning, darn sexy” given the model refit we were shown... still what was, was.

  • @Segalmed
    @Segalmed3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe she would joiin Yamato in outer space. OK, that option is technically still open.

  • @tomaseidtner8116

    @tomaseidtner8116

    3 жыл бұрын

    dont forget the chance to fight the daleks, maybe as a hidden unit of UNIT .. launching from London (where she should be, instead belfast) and then some guy in a black suit says: all a hallucination :)

  • @Steve9312028

    @Steve9312028

    3 жыл бұрын

    😄😆😋😅😛😂😝😜

  • @spirz4557

    @spirz4557

    3 жыл бұрын

    Space Battlecruiser Hood. Sounds like a cool spin-off.

  • @joshuahadams

    @joshuahadams

    3 жыл бұрын

    There’s the Excelsior-class USS Hood NCC-42296 in Star Trek. Cmdr. Riker, Lt.cmdr la Forge, and Dr. Crusher served on the Hood before being transferred to the Enterprise in Star Trek: The Next Generation.

  • @tomaseidtner8116

    @tomaseidtner8116

    3 жыл бұрын

    imagine a gun that can fire daleks at your enemy, that on spaceship hood. Now idea how the borg would react to someone shoting daleks at them :)

  • @MightyTiki
    @MightyTiki3 жыл бұрын

    Let’s not forget the 1,415 crew who died in defense of His Majesty’s Royal Navy on 24 May 1941, lest we forget.

  • @paulbembridge9239

    @paulbembridge9239

    3 жыл бұрын

    My uncle was one of those men.

  • @johnjephcote7636

    @johnjephcote7636

    3 жыл бұрын

    ...and I also mourn the loss of those Bismarck crewmen floundering near Dorsetshire's scrambling nets when the cruiser had to leave them, ostensibly because a periscope had been sighted.

  • @YTRulesFromNM

    @YTRulesFromNM

    3 жыл бұрын

    They fought to spread Communism.

  • @RaiderDave-xe1pn

    @RaiderDave-xe1pn

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@YTRulesFromNM Who did, the crew of H.M.S Hood?

  • @RaiderDave-xe1pn

    @RaiderDave-xe1pn

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Jonah Whale I think the implication is that there was no periscope and they just left, which given everything I've read about both navies (British and German) and being a brit myself, I don't think they would have left unless they genuinely thought there was a U-Boat threat.

  • @jamesm3471
    @jamesm34713 жыл бұрын

    If scrapping ships like Warspite and Queen Elizabeth was entirely about economics, then they went about it all wrong. Today, how many of you fellows in the comments would have been interested in purchasing a high quality knife or sword made from battleship steel, knowing full well, a large portion of the proceeds would be going to veterans charities and historical preservation societies?

  • @jannegrey593

    @jannegrey593

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me!

  • @jeffreyskoritowski4114

    @jeffreyskoritowski4114

    3 жыл бұрын

    Stop it. My blood pressure can only go so high.

  • @empath69

    @empath69

    3 жыл бұрын

    @George and Ruth Mallory Easy to say with eighty years of hindsight...

  • @TexasSpectre

    @TexasSpectre

    3 жыл бұрын

    That concept on a broad commercial basis didn't appear until the 1980s. Oddly, it was the Home Shopping Network that started that idea. Britain in the 1950s didn't have any inkling of the concept - and neither did the US - because it was too expensive/impossible to get the wide reach needed to make such a venture viable.

  • @David.Bobson

    @David.Bobson

    3 жыл бұрын

    No sword but I have my grandads little wooden barrel with 'from the teak of h.m.s Queen Elizabeth' on it.

  • @majoriix
    @majoriix3 жыл бұрын

    Her 'what if' refit design looks incredible! If I had the money and skills I could probably scratch build a model of that version of her using some other British warship kits spliced together, might be very rough but it could work??

  • @ravener96

    @ravener96

    3 жыл бұрын

    I managed to read this as you wanting to actually build a full sized working warship. Idk how i managed

  • @majoriix

    @majoriix

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wish, but my dockyard could only accommodate a 350th scale version if I'm lucky. I'm not sure if the world would agree with a 1:1 scale Warship😂

  • @flexelsson1625

    @flexelsson1625

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@majoriix FBI wants to know your location

  • @majoriix

    @majoriix

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@flexelsson1625 Crap... I think more than just the fbi want to find me!

  • @Vespuchian

    @Vespuchian

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think you could kitbash a refit using parts from a Vanguard kit, to save you from needing a scratch build.

  • @glenfordburrell9228
    @glenfordburrell92283 жыл бұрын

    My uncle served on the Hood. He was 14yrs of age but they didn't know. He boarded her at Panama and worked in it's laundry. He's of Jamaican origins and has long since passed. I sometimes wonder the various Nationalities that were aboard Royal Navy ships within the European theatre.

  • @emperorflare8911

    @emperorflare8911

    3 жыл бұрын

    Woah, now that’s certainly intriguing

  • @CorePathway

    @CorePathway

    Жыл бұрын

    The hell they didn’t know. A case of don’t ask, don’t tell. Boys have been sailing on British ships for centuries.

  • @camojoe83

    @camojoe83

    2 ай бұрын

    Especially exotic laundry bois.

  • @MrKKUT1984
    @MrKKUT19843 жыл бұрын

    Whoever rendered the modernized hood did one hell of a job. Bravo 👏 thats one beautiful ship

  • @TheMinidude89
    @TheMinidude893 жыл бұрын

    I think her survival guarantees her a modernization/refit, Hood was the flagship of the RN, her repair rather than scrapping would be a huge morale boost.

  • @Soundwave3591
    @Soundwave35913 жыл бұрын

    one question this scenario brings up: if not for the loss of the Hood, do you think the RN would have gone as all-out as they did to sink the Bismarck? Of course he was still a threat to the convoys and as an enemy capitol ship, but looking at the sheer number of vessels deployed in reality, would he have merited as much of a response without the aforementioned threat AND the blow to British pride IE sinking "the Mighty Hood" with "Contemptuous ease" as "Expedition Bismarck" put it? For instance, would Rodney have been redeployed so suddenly, considering she was on her way to a refit? Not to mention Prince of Wales wasn't damaged as badly in this scenario, so would she could have kept up the chase, linking up with KGV? would Force H have been redeployed? And in the event Force H was not redeployed, is there a chance Bismarck would have escaped? Much like the shell hit that did in the Hood, the torpedo hit was a 1-in-a-million shot, and could very well have not occurred. And had Rodney, with her 16-inch guns, not been present, would the Bismarck's final battle have been so seemingly 1-sided? I'm not suggesting the British would have just given up the chase, but one can't help but feel the loss of Hood pushed the RN to "kill a fly with a sledgehammer" so to speak.

  • @demonprinces17

    @demonprinces17

    3 жыл бұрын

    The British were hunting Bismarck, Churchill needed to sink it or he might be forced out of office

  • @OrdinaryEXP

    @OrdinaryEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely, especially when RN now have one less capital ship fast enough to catch Bismarck.

  • @Axterix13

    @Axterix13

    3 жыл бұрын

    Plus the British tended to sledgehammer any German capital ship they could find. Out of port, they threw whatever they had at it. In port, they developed very big bombs to drop on it (or place underneath it). Plus given what would happen if the Bismark found a convoy that didn't have a battleship in it, well, I don't think the British would have much choice but to hunt it down ASAP.

  • @jamesjacocks6221

    @jamesjacocks6221

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think that public perception was only a small part of the equation. A German capitol ship breaking out and rampaging in the Atlantic was a morbid fear throughout the RN. It's always fun to speculate the impact of media coverage anyway.

  • @shawmcgee1531

    @shawmcgee1531

    3 жыл бұрын

    It was not just the Bismarck. The Scharnhorst & Giesnau were both at Brest after successful Atlantic raids. Had Op Rehinbung succeeded the Brits would have been dealing with the ugly sisters, Bismarck, and Prinz Eugen sorting from the French coast, plus the Hipper and any others ready to sortie via Norway/Iceland. Combined with a submarine offensive and maximum effort at air recon it would have been a Worst Night Mare scenario. Sinking the Bismarck was part of a larger campaign to neutralize the threat to the sea lanes. There was also the air campaign to bomb the Scharnhorst & Gisenau, and any surface ships in range that were based in Germany or Norway.

  • @csabaszep8162
    @csabaszep81623 жыл бұрын

    I don't care what anybody says. Hood was a beautiful warship.

  • @patricklenigan4309

    @patricklenigan4309

    3 жыл бұрын

    Amen! Such a shame she had such an inglorious end

  • @duncanmackenzie2779

    @duncanmackenzie2779

    3 жыл бұрын

    She was. And though she's in three pieces, technically speaking, she's still with us.

  • @ISD_Harbinger

    @ISD_Harbinger

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks.;))

  • @haube7028

    @haube7028

    3 жыл бұрын

    She truly was a magnificent Battlecruiser

  • @ISD_Harbinger

    @ISD_Harbinger

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@haube7028 🤨🤨

  • @johnwhite7219
    @johnwhite72193 жыл бұрын

    I've always loved the lines of the Hood. Isn't strange that war ships being weapons designed to kill can be elegant machines with a beauty all their own.

  • @ScienceChap

    @ScienceChap

    3 жыл бұрын

    One word to corroborate your comment... Spitfire.

  • @asheer9114
    @asheer91143 жыл бұрын

    I would give about 95% chances that Hood would be sent to USA for refit (similar to Rodney) since risk of occasional "visits" of the British shipyards by Luftwaffe between 1941 till 1944 was still high (what bombing of the Duke of York painfully proved) and since most major shipyards able to conduct Hood's refit were located within the range of the German bombers chances that Luftwaffe would in fact focus on her destruction while she would sitin the dock would be very high.

  • @ULTRA_2112

    @ULTRA_2112

    3 жыл бұрын

    HMS Duke of York was bombed by the Luftwaffe?? When did that happen?? Or better, what did you smoke??

  • @ULTRA_2112

    @ULTRA_2112

    3 жыл бұрын

    In the mid of 1941 the majority of the Luftwaffe was at Eastern Front. It would be a field day for the RAF, if the Luftwaffe had tryed to destrory HMS Hood in Rosyth Dockyard in an daylight attack. The Royal Air Force had destroyed Gneisenau in Kiel Dockyard in 1943 in a night time attack, but it was a lucky shot, because the stupid Nazis had let the ammunition on board.

  • @JevansUK

    @JevansUK

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think you're thinking of Prince of Wales being bombed whilst under construction in Liverpool

  • @admiralsirrusty3465

    @admiralsirrusty3465

    3 жыл бұрын

    31st August 1940 at 2040 Prince of Wales was damaged during a 160 bomber air raid whilst fitting out at Cammell Laird. A 250 lb bomb exploded between the basin wall and hull and caused flooding. Flooding also occurred through holes that had been made for fitting the internal degaussing cable. Dry docked and repaired with no significant delay.

  • @ULTRA_2112

    @ULTRA_2112

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@admiralsirrusty3465 : Thats It!

  • @ArchangelsSword
    @ArchangelsSword3 жыл бұрын

    I have always wondered what older ships would have looked like after a WW2 refit. Have always loved the look of the US Standards and Italian battleships after they got rebuilt.

  • @Mark_Bickerton
    @Mark_Bickerton3 жыл бұрын

    I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but imo she is probably the most elegant warship. Bismarck was herself a great looking ship, but the Hood had that je ne sais qoi!

  • @KapitanAres
    @KapitanAres3 жыл бұрын

    When you have been up since 6am the previous day and dont care about sleep when a great naval history video is released

  • @northwoodsrailproductions4538

    @northwoodsrailproductions4538

    3 жыл бұрын

    Been up since 11:30am the previous day, I don’t need sleep anyway

  • @Groza_Dallocort

    @Groza_Dallocort

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can sleep when you are dead

  • @cgunugc

    @cgunugc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Y'all deserve some sleep. History is cool and all, but your brain will work better on some sleep.

  • @nanorider426
    @nanorider4262 жыл бұрын

    20:46 "One can dream..." Yeah, that was one exceptional dream. It brought a tear to my eye. Dammit Drach! You have made me emotional. ;) I think I'm going to make a model of HMS Hood sailing for The Falklands. Thank you for this video. :)

  • @JamesF0790

    @JamesF0790

    10 ай бұрын

    Just a "subtle" "No no old chap. We aren't done quiet yet so why don't you toodle on?"

  • @markchip1
    @markchip13 жыл бұрын

    Regarding the issue of penetration, given that any heeling into the port turn will make a BIG difference to any impact direction, so does any seastate affecting Bismark! EVERYTHING beyond the hardware attributes and the issue of extra exposure below the waterline due to the bow-wave is literally a matter of luck! I think your hardware analysis and inclusion of the significance of the bow-wave was superb and far more rounded and thorough than anything else I've ever heard! Great job!!

  • @go2mikerenzi

    @go2mikerenzi

    3 жыл бұрын

    If it's an issue of penetration a bit of heat and lube usually does the trick. Maybe a tap or two.

  • @ErikHare

    @ErikHare

    3 жыл бұрын

    The bottom line is that we know for a fact that a very lucky hit was scored. It's a question of exactly how it happened.

  • @go2mikerenzi

    @go2mikerenzi

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ErikHare That's easy, it happened because the Hood was out classed. The Hood was not a Battleship. Also I don't really think that much luck was involved.

  • @KatyushaLauncher

    @KatyushaLauncher

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@go2mikerenzi Hood was technically a Fast Battleship, Hood had armor on par with Queen Elizabeth-class of Battleships

  • @go2mikerenzi

    @go2mikerenzi

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KatyushaLauncher the Royal Navy always designated Hood Go Boom as a battlecruiser

  • @nathanokun8801
    @nathanokun88013 жыл бұрын

    Do not forget the thin bulkheads between the magazines and powerplant being thickened to at least 4" of Non-Cemented Armor (or D-Steel, at least). If she was sent to the US, I think that this would have been definitely noted by the US overhaul personnel as a major problem, considering where she had just been heavily damaged in her fight with BISMARCK. I would hope that the British designers would be as observant.

  • @Big_E_Soul_Fragment
    @Big_E_Soul_Fragment3 жыл бұрын

    Digging these "what if?" scenarios

  • @MrSleepy677

    @MrSleepy677

    3 жыл бұрын

    Here's one, Bismarck at Guadalcanal.

  • @champagnegascogne9755

    @champagnegascogne9755

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrSleepy677 or Bismarck at Bismarck Sea. Or better yet, Yamato at the Denmark Strait, and Musashi at Norwegian waters.

  • @MrSleepy677

    @MrSleepy677

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@champagnegascogne9755 Throw in with Bismarck's rudder still getting hit, but It's by a long lance.

  • @champagnegascogne9755

    @champagnegascogne9755

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrSleepy677 Imagine the Yamato-class BBs trying to survive the earthquake bombing raids

  • @MrSleepy677

    @MrSleepy677

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@champagnegascogne9755 Better yet, picture Yamato and Musashi participating in the Channel Dash.

  • @DavidSmith-ss1cg
    @DavidSmith-ss1cg3 жыл бұрын

    Well, I don't know about all the OTHER people, but when I saw your last "Hood" video, I recognized that your new theory accounts for a lot of various events which were all accounted for. I was convinced by how the theory explained the flare before the fatal blast. And the film clip showing up the way that the armor belts would be exposed clinched it. Thanks for showing us this likely sequence of unlucky events that conspired to suddenly end the Hood. Thanks for all that you do, and for doing it so well.

  • @DrFatalChunk

    @DrFatalChunk

    3 жыл бұрын

    The theory is not Drach's, it and much of the research for these videos was first posited by Bill Jurens who Drach credits at the beginning of the first video. Jurens also provided some script feedback to these episodes I believe.

  • @DavidSmith-ss1cg

    @DavidSmith-ss1cg

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DrFatalChunk - Thanks for setting me straight. Good video, though.

  • @jadendesveaux7452
    @jadendesveaux74523 жыл бұрын

    We need Merch with refitted Hood on it. I would kill for a t-shirt or poster with that beautiful fictional hood on it

  • @hobbesfan4196

    @hobbesfan4196

    3 жыл бұрын

    Human or otherwise? Bit of distinction needed here.

  • @deaks25
    @deaks253 жыл бұрын

    The model of the refitted Hood is absolutely stunning. Looks superbly detailed and very well thought out I feel. Shout out to everyone who worked on both the 'as existed' and 'as refit' modelers. As I work in BIM, I'm curious as to what software was used to create the 3D models. Also, any chance that the refit Hood model could be slipped into the inbox of the WOWS devs... pretty please.

  • @thetorturepenguin
    @thetorturepenguin Жыл бұрын

    whilst it would be a shame not to see Vanguard completed, it breaks my heart that Hood didn't survive the Denmark strait. It would have been really cool to see her revised and rebuilt. She was a beautiful ship after all.

  • @marksieving7925

    @marksieving7925

    Жыл бұрын

    Not to mention the 1,415 people who died.

  • @alexmiller2089
    @alexmiller20893 жыл бұрын

    Drachinifel's ultimate British wet dream: HMS Hood is called back into active service for the Falklands, and it proceeds to stomp General Belgrano in the nuts at the "Battle of the Exclusion Zone".

  • @jarink1

    @jarink1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Drachinifel's ultimate British nightmare: HMS Hood is called back into active service for the Falklands, and it proceeds to be sunk by one of Argentina's submarines.

  • @pipecuu

    @pipecuu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jarink1 most likely outcome

  • @spirz4557

    @spirz4557

    3 жыл бұрын

    HMS Hood, 1980's refrotfit www.deviantart.com/zyfle/art/H-M-S-Hood-Modernized-794685488

  • @Steve9312028

    @Steve9312028

    3 жыл бұрын

    Belgrano was just a Brooklyn class cruiser, formerly known as the USS Phoenix, a survivor of Pear Harbor with 11 battle stars ⭐️ under her belt . As good a tried and true US Navy ship as was ever built, she was never designed to take on a vessel such as HMS Hood by herself. As the Belgrano, she was 47 years old when she sank. It would never have been a match for the Hood. I’m sorry to say, as a citizen of the city she was originally named for, I’m glad she had a quick and dignified death from HMS Conqueror vs slugging it out with Hood.

  • @alexmiller2089

    @alexmiller2089

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am aware it would have been nearly impossible for this to happen, it's just interesting to think about. A WW1 "Battle of Coronel/Battle of the Falklands" style capital ship gunnery duel occurring during an age of Exocets and advanced sensor platforms would have been a sight to see. Maybe we could get this analysis as an April Fool's video from Drach.

  • @thomassalois3508
    @thomassalois35083 жыл бұрын

    HMS Hood really was in need of a really extensive overhaul but they just didn't get around to it

  • @redenginner
    @redenginner3 жыл бұрын

    She would probably survive the war, but she would end up being scrapped in the post war era.

  • @Bisexual_Sovereign

    @Bisexual_Sovereign

    3 жыл бұрын

    So you mean she wouldn't be converted to a sort of "Missle Battlecruiser" that would serve until the Falklands and be converted to a museum ship? Huh

  • @enoughothis

    @enoughothis

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Warspite herself was sent to the scrappers but she refused that indignity and sunk herself on the way.

  • @loganb7059

    @loganb7059

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@enoughothis Warspite and (if she had survived the war) Hood definitely should have been made museum ships. It’s like a giant recruitment station where you implant the seeds of “the navy is really cool.” It’s an absolute travesty that Britain scrapped every remaining battleship in her inventory. I know Britain was just about broke after the war, but it’s just mindblowing that they’d just scrap these monuments to pride in the Royal Navy.

  • @enoughothis

    @enoughothis

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@loganb7059, I was thinking the same thing. It's funny how a nation that gets all starry-eyed over brave sailors and their proud ships can show so little regard for them when those ships and sailors fulfill their purpose. The English sailors who defeated the Spanish Armada were left to die of disease on their ships after the battle was over, because that was cheaper than paying them. Legendary ships like the Warpsite deserve to be preserved for their role in history not unceremoniously broken apart for scrap. These ships defended nations and toppled empires!

  • @loganb7059

    @loganb7059

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@enoughothis I am usually a pretty level headed guy but the people who decided to send the Warspite to the breakers deserved to be shot for treason against the empire and basic human decency.

  • @stephengardiner9867
    @stephengardiner98678 ай бұрын

    Her sister ships were to be built to a slightly different design. Here's some interesting trivia. Jon Pertwee (later to play the third "Doctor" in the Dr. Who series) served in the Royal Navy during WWII and was to become part of the Hood's crew once it returned from the hunt for the Bismark.

  • @richardmcgowan1651
    @richardmcgowan16513 жыл бұрын

    Well, one thing is for sure. If Hood had survived we wouldn't remember her as well as we do today.

  • @arthurfisher1857

    @arthurfisher1857

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not if it defeated the Bismark. Not to mention, as a symbol of the RN, she would likely have been involved in just about every theater. From Normandy to Tokyo Bay. I think she'd be pretty well remembered

  • @danielhowe5435

    @danielhowe5435

    3 жыл бұрын

    Here's a thought if Hood survived how would we remember Bismark? Would she still be as famous or would she join the other German battleships in infamy?

  • @arthurfisher1857

    @arthurfisher1857

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@danielhowe5435 pretty much. Her reputation is massively overblown I'm afraid. A ship very hard to sink, but very easy to defeat.

  • @fouloleron2002

    @fouloleron2002

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pretty similar to the argument that if Titanic didn't sink, nobody would have heard of her, apart from a few ship enthusiasts.

  • @markrl75

    @markrl75

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fouloleron2002 - Great point after all how many people have heard of RMS Aquitania yet she was the longest serving and one of the most quietly successful ocean liners of them all. Served with distinction through two world wars from 1914 to 1950. That's a pretty impressive record but other then ocean liner geeks nobody has ever heard of her.

  • @onewhosaysgoose4831
    @onewhosaysgoose48313 жыл бұрын

    Deckspace that doesn't kill planes: ... *the US Navy would like to know your location*

  • @le_floofy_sniper_ducko7964

    @le_floofy_sniper_ducko7964

    3 жыл бұрын

    Essex Class Carriers have been deployed to the location 😂

  • @stonks6616

    @stonks6616

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@le_floofy_sniper_ducko7964 *SCREAMS IN 32 PLANNED SHIPS*

  • @ISD_Harbinger

    @ISD_Harbinger

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol.

  • @MrSleepy677
    @MrSleepy6773 жыл бұрын

    Christmas came early

  • @ghostly4387

    @ghostly4387

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, yes it did (ps sorry for dislike I miss clicked)

  • @kendramalm8811
    @kendramalm88113 жыл бұрын

    "Cod turning left..." I will never be able to look at fish and chips the same way...

  • @jwadaow

    @jwadaow

    3 жыл бұрын

    is there a range at wish a detonating shell can perfectly cook a cod?

  • @NashmanNash

    @NashmanNash

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jwadaow Well..as there IS a way to cook a chicken by slapping it...probably yes :D

  • @Cobra-King3

    @Cobra-King3

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NashmanNash well, it has to be close to the shell to cook, but far enough not to be burnt as soon as the shell explodes, given the explosive mass that is there, and the sudden heat, maybe around 5-10 meters from shell exploding, assuming the cod WILL be cooked instantly on all sides

  • @armagonarmagon3980
    @armagonarmagon39803 жыл бұрын

    For a moment, I was seriously concerned that the thumbnail of the video was from a War Thunder dev blog XD

  • @Thomas-rk4rl

    @Thomas-rk4rl

    3 жыл бұрын

    After Hyuga, would Hood even be surprising anymore?

  • @armagonarmagon3980

    @armagonarmagon3980

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thomas No, not particularly. The only surprise Gaijin could conjure up at this point was that they dropped comparable ships to the Hyuga for every other nation next patch and raise their BR to 7.0. That would at least level the playing field.

  • @flexelsson1625

    @flexelsson1625

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@armagonarmagon3980 7.0 should be the bare minimum battleships should be at.. Later ships should absolutely be 7.7 or higher... heavy and light cruisers fighting Battleships is NOT fun..!

  • @lordwintertown8284

    @lordwintertown8284

    3 жыл бұрын

    Aye I shat myself as well, but it's probably a model done by the same modellers that Gaijin gets models made by. They're beautiful models all of them & my favorite is the Svetlana class Cruiser model, They really should keep making many more beauties.

  • @mesparky9
    @mesparky9 Жыл бұрын

    Two weeks saved my Father. When he and his two friends enlisted he was two weeks away from his eighteenth birthday so had to have his enlistment papers signed by my Grandfather, who refused. His two friends were posted on HMS Hood as stokers in the boiler room. RIP all who lost their lives.

  • @justxian9362
    @justxian93623 жыл бұрын

    The Title : The Refit of HMS Hood - What if she survived? The Thumbnail : Renown class Battlecruisers go brrrrr

  • @OddHunter5504
    @OddHunter55043 жыл бұрын

    “Removal of the conning tower because no one used it” But, but ..... her conning tower is what makes hood stand out to me

  • @sundiver137

    @sundiver137

    3 жыл бұрын

    IKR. But since what "stands out" to us was never "stood in" by her command staff removing it made sense and saved tons of topside weight.

  • @Stevgar2
    @Stevgar23 жыл бұрын

    Would have been brilliant to have her & vanguard as the “capital protection assets” kept in reserve & upgraded similar to the Iowa's so they could keep the carriers safe & provide the “cost effective” bombardment roles they were designed for all be it in support of Marines & not a naval campaign. Keep up the great work drach , watching the channel grow from 500 to what you've accomplished is inspirational. Take care , best wishes to you & “the mine” .

  • @Andrei613

    @Andrei613

    3 жыл бұрын

    Given that the equally powerful and far newer HMS Vanguard of 1946 was scrapped in 1960, the absurd notion that a rebuilt Hood could have still been in existence as of 1982 is, well, totally delusional. The RN's missions post WW2 had little to no use for any battleships, nor did the nation have the cash to be able to afford one. Just manning one meant laying up at least one carrier and two or three cruisers, all of which were far more useful, and being ships, plural, could be in more than one place at one time.

  • @congratsyoufoundmychannel1098
    @congratsyoufoundmychannel10983 жыл бұрын

    *"She was really running more on Hopes, Prayers, and Duck tape"* God I love this channel

  • @agwhitaker

    @agwhitaker

    3 жыл бұрын

    - duct tape -

  • @jameshunter5485
    @jameshunter54853 жыл бұрын

    I never tire of looking at the beautiful lines of the Hood.

  • @joshthomas-moore2656
    @joshthomas-moore26563 жыл бұрын

    I would love to see a serise of these videos of what some ships would be like if they had a refit or different refit (Like actually upping the armour on the Kongo's)

  • @Andrei613

    @Andrei613

    3 жыл бұрын

    Japan of the 20s-40s, being a government that had no need to account to it's public, could spend a fortune to update their battleline, and knowing that they'd be the ones starting the war, a bit of data that they did not share with anyone else, and so, they could do it on their timeframe. The 30s Kongo rebuilds also went farther, in that those ships were also lengthened, as well as widened. The only other navy that managed to do that was Italy, and their ruler also didn't have to win elections.

  • @tyronedlisle4412
    @tyronedlisle44123 жыл бұрын

    Would love to see a modernised hood in WOWS

  • @fritzfeuerdorn2833

    @fritzfeuerdorn2833

    3 жыл бұрын

    That be greate!

  • @RkHy

    @RkHy

    3 жыл бұрын

    you can! its called Vanguard :)))

  • @8ouroboros841

    @8ouroboros841

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hopefully, if (when?) they introduce British battlecruiser line split, we'll see something similar in the form of an Admiral-class.

  • @RkHy

    @RkHy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@8ouroboros841 i agree so they can add battlecruisers like courageous class, renown class, G3 class, or even incomparable

  • @kentlindal5422

    @kentlindal5422

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm a blitz player... I'd settle for them making her playable.

  • @InternetEntity
    @InternetEntity3 жыл бұрын

    Despite tears and a strong sense of nostalgia, this is quality content.

  • @jimmywrangles
    @jimmywrangles3 жыл бұрын

    If Ted Briggs said the order to turn was given than that's what happened, he was right there behind the Admiral and heard everything. There was never any doubt as to whether the order was given the only doubt is to whether she started the turn or not and when you look at the rudder pictures from the wreck it's hard over. The order was given...maybe 10 seconds to late to matter. RIP heroes.

  • @freedomtosayno7880
    @freedomtosayno78803 жыл бұрын

    She was a beautiful ship and the more modernized variant is even more pleasing to the eye. She would have been an ideal fast carrier escort in the Pacific if she had survived. AA guns and more AA guns.

  • @glennsimpson7659
    @glennsimpson76593 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Drach, and also Bill Jurens, for this fantastically thorough presentation. Wholly convincing. Speculation on the refitting of Hood along the lines of Renown is fascinating, especially the idea of using Vanguard’s supplies for parts - no way that the British war economy could have built two sets of new Battleship machinery, however, so no chance of seeing Hood and Vanguard sailing side by side. As Hood’s hull was over 20 years old, however, it seems unlikely that she would have been as satisfactory as a brand new Vanguard - look at the problems they had with HMS London’s hull hogging and sagging.

  • @sergeysmirnov1062
    @sergeysmirnov10623 жыл бұрын

    One thing I actually think would have gone different (and not even conceringing the Hood herself) would be that I honestly don't think the Bismarck would have been sunk - or at least that fast. One has to remember that IRL, she destroyed (one might even say obliterated) the pride of the Royal Navy famously causing the British to basically go "okay, fuck it, we're going all in here". Had the Hood survived (or even sunk after less of a cubstomp)... I honestly don't think the British would have diverted nearly as many ressources to sinking this one German battleship

  • @travistucker1033

    @travistucker1033

    3 жыл бұрын

    He probably would have ended up being hit in port by a tall boy bomb later in the war.

  • @simonbengtsson9241

    @simonbengtsson9241

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just like Tirpitz, @@travistucker1033. Also, we wouldn't have one of the most famous raids, and the germans declaring that enemy commandos is the same as enemy spies.

  • @scottygdaman

    @scottygdaman

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Hood was pretty much doomed from the start Holland knew this . Still targeting the right ship and scoring even 2 or 3 hits . He had the time but ... Doomed from the start I can't figure why it was even sent . Another bad Churchill decision.

  • @genericdave8420

    @genericdave8420

    3 жыл бұрын

    It certainly hardened the attitude but given all those ships were on patrol looking for Bismarck then those resources were already deployed. Once Bismarck tripped any patrol then the plan was in place to close and destroy. That's why Bismarck and other German raiders had orders to not engage warships if at all possible. Any damage or loss of speed potentially doomed them as would be the case for Graf Spee and Bismarck.

  • @sergeysmirnov1062

    @sergeysmirnov1062

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@travistucker1033 Pretty much what I presume, yeah, she would likely have continued her mission for a bit (possibly) before being forced into a French port for repairs due to the hits she received. And from there on it would have rained bombs until she would have been gone

  • @FirstDagger
    @FirstDagger3 жыл бұрын

    Wargaming and also Tanaka: write that down, write that down Gaijin: meh

  • @loganb7059

    @loganb7059

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tanaka?

  • @FirstDagger

    @FirstDagger

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@loganb7059 ; Kantai Collection's head honch.

  • @setiem13

    @setiem13

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@loganb7059 He who must not be named.

  • @anaveragesoviettankfromthe70s

    @anaveragesoviettankfromthe70s

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, we do not want WT Naval going apeshit with all these superdreads and BC's just running around the place...

  • @OrdinaryEXP

    @OrdinaryEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tanaka: okay you can get Hood in the game, but not before defeating her FULLY refitted form (and we will magically turn her into a 200+ plane aviation battleship) as the boss of upcoming event!

  • @kiwihame
    @kiwihame3 жыл бұрын

    Superb Video. Well done. She would have gone to America for refit. The refit images here are incredible. What a beautiful ship. If they couldn't keep Warspite, they'd never have kept Hood. This scenario is as good as we get. Thank you.

  • @hanzzel6086

    @hanzzel6086

    8 ай бұрын

    Hood did/would have a _slightly_ better chance of surviving, simply due to being more well known and loved. Combined with being very recently modernised would help. She still isn't making it past the 60's, but there is *some* small hope for her compared to the other BBs.

  • @coralshowell8588
    @coralshowell85883 жыл бұрын

    I agree. The HMS Hood was a beautiful warship that met with fate. She has gained our greatest respect. The British should always be proud of her.

  • @DeltaAssaultGaming
    @DeltaAssaultGaming3 жыл бұрын

    When I was a kid I only saw the side profile of Hood in books and thought the two anchors were on both sides of the ship. I was really confused when I grew up and couldn’t see any anchors on the port side of the ship in photos.

  • @duncanmackenzie2779
    @duncanmackenzie27793 жыл бұрын

    There is a book, Running a Big Ship, by Captain Rory O'Conor, about managing a battleship. O'Conor was Hood's commander. I have a copy. Remember his Ten Commandments!

  • @kirbyculp3449

    @kirbyculp3449

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe Drach can review the book!?

  • @Synergist1c_
    @Synergist1c_3 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting! I vaguely remember u answering one of my questions about Hood from ur drydock sessions so thanks for taking it into more detail!

  • @scottdrone-silvers5179
    @scottdrone-silvers51793 жыл бұрын

    Merry Christmas, good sir, to you and yours. Thank you VERY much for all of the gifts you have given us this year, especially these most recent Hood videos (the previous video on the destruction of the Hood may have been your very best yet).

  • @kkhagerty6315
    @kkhagerty63153 жыл бұрын

    Always wanted a video on this subject, stellar job Drach

  • @gavinhudson5251
    @gavinhudson52513 жыл бұрын

    My grandma told me back in 1982, that her cousin was a communications officer on Hood back in the 1930's; I was pretty chuffed about that.

  • @mikeupton5406
    @mikeupton54063 жыл бұрын

    Happy Holidays Drachinifel. Thankyou for all the wonderful content.

  • @jonathanhill4892
    @jonathanhill48923 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Drach - much food for thought! Merry Christmas to you and yours.

  • @mattblom3990
    @mattblom39903 жыл бұрын

    "While Bismarck's captain is all for it..." So true, Captain Lindemann with his "I will not have my ship shot out from under my @ss" comment.

  • @jwadaow

    @jwadaow

    3 жыл бұрын

    would have been more like arse I'm supposing.

  • @normmcrae1140
    @normmcrae11403 жыл бұрын

    Never been much for Naval history, but there's always a few BIG points - Trafalgar, the Nile, River Plate, the Bounty, Jutland, and Hood. But I've always looked at much of them from a technical point. Wondering if Drach has a Naval Engineering background from how he can so easily reference the engineering technicalities of such a big and complicated ship, and come up with such well thought-out answers and conclusions. I'll definitely be watching more!

  • @hanzzel6086

    @hanzzel6086

    8 ай бұрын

    He was. Iirc, when he started this channel he was still active in civilian ship design. He is currently retired though. Edit: I just noticed this comment is 2 years old.

  • @seanmcintosh2003
    @seanmcintosh20033 жыл бұрын

    What a lovely surprise to see all the recent HMS Hood content. Well done and thank you!

  • @ianmacdonald7277
    @ianmacdonald72773 жыл бұрын

    This and the recent video detailing the Hood sinking are both excellent! Both of these presentations answer a lot of questions and demonstrate a high degree of scholarly competence. Your Battle of Jutland series were also of the same high quality. All your presentations are well worth watching as they are informative, and enjoyable with great photos and film clips. Keep up the great work!

  • @jasonbrannock1698
    @jasonbrannock16983 жыл бұрын

    That's a great what if!! Thanks and Merry Christmas!! J

  • @DarkFire515
    @DarkFire5153 жыл бұрын

    Damn she looks beautiful painted tropical white in her '44 refit condition.

  • @empath69
    @empath693 жыл бұрын

    Okay, first: What a wonderful rational, grounded analysis into a 'what if' scenario to enjoy on Christmas day! Thank you this and I hope the holidays are treating you as admirably as you deserve for all the 'good art' you share with us all. Second: as hinted above, thank you for this whole channel - you've given much grist for the mill of my lifelong affection for naval warfare! And third: I have FINALLY caught up with your PRODIGIOUS backlog; I started checking your videos out due to looking for something useful to refer to in a discussion about the Battle Off Samar last November...which got me starting on your channel's content...and after a quarantine (thank you for helping me keep my sanity, btw) of watching/listening to you expound on the age of steam & steel? Well, again, thank you.

  • @paulamos8970
    @paulamos89702 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for a very interesting programme, I really liked your alternative time-line and the refitting of a non sunk HMS Hood. Your explanation as to the cause of the conflagration by the main mast. It is the most well explained version of probability of what happened.

  • @jd-vz8cn
    @jd-vz8cn3 жыл бұрын

    If only we could have seen refit Hood and a battleship Vanguard sailing together...

  • @adamtruong1759

    @adamtruong1759

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it would kind make things full circle with Hood technically being the first British fast-battleship and Vanguard being the last one.

  • @bachelorchownowwithflavor3712

    @bachelorchownowwithflavor3712

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@adamtruong1759 Hood the first British fast battleship? The Queen Elizabeth-class would like a word with you.

  • @adamtruong1759

    @adamtruong1759

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hmmm... that's right, the Queen Elizabeth class were called fast-battleships, for the time they were built anyway, and I think Hood was boasted to be faster than her and so I would call her the first British fast battleship in terms of the new era of battleships, does that make sense?

  • @michaelpettersson4919

    @michaelpettersson4919

    3 жыл бұрын

    I can see that happening in a computer game.

  • @immort4730

    @immort4730

    3 жыл бұрын

    Adam Truong she’s around the same era as Queen Elizabeth class.

  • @gonotgone1
    @gonotgone13 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video I have often wondered about this ‘what if’ so I throughly enjoyed this video and I love the 3D model of the suggested refit, she was a beautiful ship and I really like the look of the refit too.

  • @Pusserdoc
    @Pusserdoc3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Drach, thanks for your explanation regarding the diving hit into the bow wave trough: makes sense.

  • @anantr99
    @anantr993 жыл бұрын

    Christmas and New Year seem to have come together and earlier. A great gift to naval enthusiasts. Great video and deepest thanks for uploading. Happy Christmas

  • @erika_itsumi5141
    @erika_itsumi51413 жыл бұрын

    Yes! More Hood! Not many if any people talk about her refit.

  • @tomirk4404
    @tomirk4404 Жыл бұрын

    The optimism in trying to preserve her in this is brilliant

  • @stephenlaw9827
    @stephenlaw98273 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant and informative video. Merry Christmas Drach.

  • @AnvilAirsoftTV
    @AnvilAirsoftTV3 жыл бұрын

    Thankyou. I was looking for pictures of a proposed refit a couple of weeks ago. That is one seriously good looking ship.

  • @warmstrong5612
    @warmstrong56123 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to think that if Hood had survived the war that at least she would be saved as a museum ship. I have no real reason to believe this would happen but I can dream.

  • @AugmentedGravity
    @AugmentedGravity4 ай бұрын

    Hood in the Falklands gives me the butterflies

  • @comradeivan3903
    @comradeivan39033 жыл бұрын

    Was having a crap day, woke up late and shit weather, now there is a 40 minute drach video looks like im gonna love it. thanks drach

  • @CraigLYoung
    @CraigLYoung3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing and Merry Christmas!

  • @theswordguy5269
    @theswordguy52693 жыл бұрын

    I tend to think that she would have been sent to the US for serious repair work, and possibly reconstruction. Given the fine work US yards were doing repairing other Royal Navy combatants, and the desire to spare her German bombing, the Hood would likely not have remained in British waters for long had she survived her encounter with the Bismarck. A great many large combatants were being seriously delayed as the emphasis was placed on building corvettes, frigates and other ASW vessels, so keeping Hood in a British yard would have exposed her to that issue; she likely wouldn't have been repaired by 1944! No, she'd have made the journey to the USA like Warspite did before her. She'd have likely received American radars and fire control, as well, after American entry into the war. As the pride of the fleet, the Royal Navy would have insisted upon it.

  • @richardschaffer5588

    @richardschaffer5588

    2 жыл бұрын

    And 5” 38s & Ford fire control ala Dido.

  • @theswordguy5269

    @theswordguy5269

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@richardschaffer5588 That I'm not sure about. The RN wanted 5" 38s after the HMS Delhi experiment but there weren't enough around at that moment to refit the older RN cruisers. However, the 'tween decks mount that the armoured carriers and some Queen Elizabeth-class battleships received would have been likely. That would have reduced topweight, which the older ships needed. And, it would have maintained AA commonality with the rest of the Royal Navy.

  • @jetdriver
    @jetdriver9 ай бұрын

    It’s interesting to think about the what if of Hood surviving into the 1980s and being reactivated for the Falklands War. Realistically there is no way you are activating a ship like Hood out of reserve in time to participate in a 10 week war. Just assembling and training a crew on systems that have long since left service (even assuming all of those were in perfect working order) will take longer than that. Given that Vanguard was scrapped some 20 years before this it seems hard to construct a scenario where Hood survives into the 1980s and in such a state that she can be rapidly brought online and deployed with the fleet. But what the heck just for fun let’s assume it happens. Her AA battery would have been very Interesting to see in action against the Argentines especially if it had been updated to a late 1950s standard with twin 3”50s replacing the 40mm like was done in the US. If she survives that long and serves in the Falklands especially if that service proves memorable as I suspect it might have (what if she gets sent off to meet the General Belgrano at night?) then what’s next? I’d find it hard to believe that Hood in those circumstances wouldn’t still be with us today. Perhaps even more legendary than she is now.

  • @lucascousins6934

    @lucascousins6934

    6 ай бұрын

    And at that point, we can dream further! What if it had been retained all the way until desert storm, joining Wisconsin and Missouri in the battle fleet pounding the Iraqi coast, perhaps even receiving a similar refit, with exocet missiles replacing the harpoon of the Iowa's and it's own quartet of tomahawk missile boxes? No doubt then would it be preserved as the most glorious ship of the royal navy

  • @gerokron3412
    @gerokron34123 жыл бұрын

    Great video and a pleasure to listen to all the research presented.

  • @leftcoaster67
    @leftcoaster673 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Drach. Merry Christmas!

  • @Jimorian
    @Jimorian3 жыл бұрын

    How lacking in joy in the world of possibilities do you have to be to post: "So what? She sank, get over it!" and all the variants of that sentiment. Thank you, Drach, for another wonderful piece that takes a bit of fantasy and applies some nice real-world details and potentials to it all.

  • @ProperLogicalDebate
    @ProperLogicalDebate3 жыл бұрын

    10:45 You'll find them in the crate next to the Arc of the Covenant. LoL

  • @baystgrp
    @baystgrp3 жыл бұрын

    Terrific tutorial in the “what-if’s” of policy and naval construction as they might have affected Hood. Drachinfel and Felton are tops in their fields. Kudos.

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