The Red Sea Dam: Generating 50x the Power of a Nuclear Plant
In 2007, a group of scientists proposed building a 100-kilometer-long dam across the Red Sea that would generate 50 gigawatts of electricity. Discover how it works, how it could help the environment, the obstacles the project faces, and what it would take to build it in this exciting video.
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This sounds like an ecological disaster way beyond any carbon offset.
@joeyr7294
Жыл бұрын
For sure!
@connormoylan2466
Жыл бұрын
Right
@ashscott6068
Жыл бұрын
It's never going to happen.
@orunenf5533
Жыл бұрын
We're already ruining Africa, seems on par with our species
@theursulus
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, it's bonkers!
So ..... They want to dam to one of most important trade routes???
@shabayaba123
Жыл бұрын
They'll have a system locks and a toll
@RandomTrinidadian
Жыл бұрын
@@shabayaba123 still a terrible idea
@nntflow7058
Жыл бұрын
They could have instead opted for smaller Gulf of Aqaba. It's not hindering the most important trade routes and it's gonna be way easier to build and manage.
@TheWoblinGoblin
Жыл бұрын
damn them all to hell!
@mukkah
Жыл бұрын
That was kinda one of my first thoughts upon clicking on le video, lol
On top of the huge ecological impact, the Red Sea is also one of the most important sea trade routes in the world. And we all saw what the Ever Given did to Suez trade back in 2021! This reminds me of how disastrous China's mass-building dam policy was. During the Great Leap Forward, China built 62 dams in Henan with the help of Soviet experts. The construction of the dams focused heavily on the goal of retaining water and overlooked their capacities to prevent floods, while the quality of the dams was also compromised due to the Great Leap Forward. Not to mention, the "Learn from Dazhai in agriculture" campaign destroyed forest cover. I think you can see where this is going. In 1975, during Typhoon Nina, the Banqiao Dam (which was designed for a calculated one in a thousand year rainfall event of 300 mm/day), got way more than that in just one day. This resulted in the collapse it and all the other dams in the area. Over 10 million people were affected with a death toll of up to 240,000, the collapse of over six million homes, and the Communist Party concealed the disaster's details until the 1990s.
@TheGameCrafter
Жыл бұрын
came here to say this
@Zack-fu4lo
Жыл бұрын
least destructive communist initiative
@davidegaruti2582
Жыл бұрын
there where also several dam failures both in europe ( the vojont dam in my country comes to mind) and several in the Us ... let's just say that dam failures can just delete settlements placed below the dam , because it's essentially a tsunami that is not slowed down by gravity , but accellerated by it ...
I don't particularly understand this brand of stupidity, but I do admire their total commitment to it...
@user-zk1zy1fy7o
Жыл бұрын
Better use of money than what most governments spend money on
@Johnsmith-zi9pu
Жыл бұрын
How about a hospital or a power station to service a complete generation of people? This climate hoax will pass but the damage it does will be worse than any climate change.
Well I've heard some bad ideas to solve energy shortage problems in my life but this surely takes the cake.
@Steelrat1994
Жыл бұрын
There is another video about an even more retarded idea to dam the entire mediterranean.
@sunkings5972
Жыл бұрын
I think this is one of the most marvelous bad ideas of all time, I'll sleep a little better knowing our species can f'k mother nature even worse she keeps playing wit us like this 😅
@PeteTheL337
Жыл бұрын
All in the name of carbon free energy.
@Steelrat1994
Жыл бұрын
@@PeteTheL337 yeah, right. Because constructing a 1km wide 100km long colossal structure capable of holding back the ocean is completely carbon free. As we all know components production, transportation and construction happen by carbon free magic and does not require any fossil fuels or concrete. I'm amazed they can seriously discuss such braindead megastructures.
@jaxamilius5237
Жыл бұрын
more like it takes the red sea 😄
This idea makes The Line look like a work of genius.
@charlottewolery558
Жыл бұрын
No, this makes the Line look like divine benevolence. This is the kind of crap the Borg would do to a planet they assimilated.
@blurglide
Жыл бұрын
Hey! The Line will utterly REVOLUTIONIZE making any two points in a city as far apart as possible!
@nitehawk86
Жыл бұрын
If someone tried to build this, Egypt would do the smart thing and bomb it.
@jebes909090
Жыл бұрын
i think some of those engineers were snorting lines when they came up with it.
@Kainlarsen
Жыл бұрын
Don't encourage them.
When I read the title I thought this idea was crazy. But after watching the video I think it's downright insane.
@SoMuchFacepalm
Жыл бұрын
Someone was like "I wanna be bigger than Moses"
I am planning to build a dam from Alaska to Antartica, right through the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
@Clickbait86
Жыл бұрын
That’s hawt
@mho...
Жыл бұрын
cooool, can you connect that to the tunnel from england to newyork?!
@theenergizer248
Жыл бұрын
@@mho... Yes, no problem , will start straight after I build the Bridge to Nowhere!
@elusive6119
Жыл бұрын
The Penzhinskaya Tidal Power Plant (115-120 GW) is a project of a tidal power plant in the Penzhinskaya Bay, located in the northeastern part of the Shelikhov Bay of the Sea of Okhotsk. Geographically, it should be located in the Magadan region and the Kamchatka Territory of Russia. Depending on the chosen project, it can become the world's largest hydraulic power plant in terms of installed capacity and electricity generation per year. The Lena-Kamchatka railway can pass through the dam of the power plant. In order to fully realize the hydropotential of the Penzhinskaya Bay, two projects have been developed, which differ in capacity and annual electricity generation: The southern section is larger, with depths up to 67 meters and a length of about 72 km. It is planned that the capacity of this facility will reach 87.4 GW, that is, over 200 billion kWh of electricity per year. The maximum tide in the Southern alignment is 11 meters. The northern channel will have a length of about 32 km, and the depths will be up to 26 meters with a maximum tide of up to 13.4 meters. According to calculations, its capacity will reach 21 GW, which will allow to receive 72 billion kWh of electric energy annually. The construction of the Penzhinskaya power plant was discussed back in Soviet times. In the 1980s, research was conducted in the Sea of Okhotsk for future construction, but during the development of the project, Soviet engineers faced high costs for its implementation. At that time, the average construction costs were estimated at $260 billion. The decision to start creating the project reappeared in 2021. The choice in favor of Shelikhov Bay was not made by chance. The height of the tides here reaches 9 meters, and sometimes the water rises to 13 meters, which is the highest indicator for the Pacific Ocean. Considering the area of the Penzhinskaya Bay, it can be noted that the daily passage of water is 360-530 km3, and this exceeds the flow rate at the mouth of the Amazon (the largest river on the planet) at least 20 times. If we compare the Penzhinskaya NPP with the largest hydroelectric power plants in the world, we can see that the Northern section will approach the Chinese Three Gorges power plant in terms of its capacity, and the Southern section will surpass it four times. The commissioning of the enterprise will effectively solve the energy problems of the Far East. The power plant has a great export potential and can make a profit by supplying electricity to other countries. The station's capacity can be used in the following areas: hydrogen production in the Kamchatka Territory; laying of power lines to Primorsky Krai and Khabarovsk region; electric energy supplies to Japan, China, other countries; processing of coal into combustible carbons (methanol or synthetic oil). It is planned that fish-passing facilities and locks will be built into the design of the station, ensuring the passage of vessels of various capacities. On the upper part of the dam there will be a highway that will connect Kamchatka and Magadan. In 2021, the company "N2 Clean Energy" and JSC "Kamchatka Krai Development Corporation" started to create a project of the Penzhinskaya PES, which can become the largest tidal power plant in the world in terms of power and electricity generation. Construction will be carried out in Shelikhov Bay, in the Sea of Okhotsk. The location for the power plant was chosen in the Penzhinskaya Bay, which gave the name to the object. Completion of construction works and commissioning of the facility is scheduled for 2035.
Not a hope in hell of getting countries to agree to borking the Suez canal.
@pauljaworski9386
Жыл бұрын
That was my thought. How much extra oil would ships burn to make the trip around cape horn?
@bbbb98765
Жыл бұрын
@@pauljaworski9386 For sure. Also, every country that has a navy sometimes sends it's warships through it. You can't rely on governments to make good environmental choices, but if it costs money and restricts their military they sure act swiftly
@jonathanpfeffer3716
Жыл бұрын
They would obviously build locks into it lol. Dams aren’t just walls you plop down into the water.
@MiniDevilDF
Жыл бұрын
There would be a system of locks, of course.
@pauljaworski9386
Жыл бұрын
@@MiniDevilDF Did you listen to the whole clip? After how ever many years the locks would be not usable
This makes the line seem like a very good idea.....There is so many downsides that i dont even know where to begin
@levismith7444
Жыл бұрын
Just build it and blame “climate change” for whatever problems occur afterwards… problem solved
@deltax4144
Жыл бұрын
Also who needs the Suez anyway lmao?
@diegoferreiro9478
Жыл бұрын
Let's try: 1) 50 nuclear power plants are cheaper to build, will be available in less time and could be built closer to the areas where their output is really needed. 2) What about the closure of the Suez Canal and its trade route. The extra mileage imposed to the shipping lanes is it also 'carbon free'? 3) What about of killing one live sea and its replacement by a desert stretch? 4) Global cost. 5) Political feasibility. 6) Geotechnical instability on a dam built on two different tectonic plates.
@_Sami_H
Ай бұрын
@diegoferreiro9478 7) Solar power exists, and the region is one of the most driest deserts in the world .Clearly, there are better green alternatives to a dem that size
The guy who thought this one up: "Man, I should do something stupid today."
In Olkiluoto 3 with all the cost overruns and issues, Findland just got 1.6GW for 6 billion dollars. That is less than 190 billion dollars for the same amount of power this project claims , and you can place these wherever you have cooling available. So not only is this project a total environmental and logistical disasters, it is also expensive. It might however be less expensive than the same amount of wind/solar with batteries (heck, they would probably need this dam as a pump storage).
No chance in hell they can build that for $200 Billion. No way. It would push $1 Trillion easily.
@rogerblackwood8815
Жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking! In the UK they spent almost that amount and still haven't completed a little 100 miles highspeed railway from London to Birmingham!
@giantred
Жыл бұрын
I mean yeah, if you do not know a guy who knows a guy who "Found" about 10 billion pounds of concrete that fell off a truck.
@TheBooban
Жыл бұрын
You know the Arabs use indentured workers, don’t you?
@TheObsesedAnimeFreaks
Жыл бұрын
the materials and labor costs alone, they haven't factored in the corrupt funneling of ill gotten gains to donors, and supporters. when it's all said and done, it would have cost probably 30 trillion and made some people some very wealthy men.
@trainskitsetc
Жыл бұрын
@@rogerblackwood8815 probably spent 50 quid on the actual railway building bit and the rest on mid level management positions and advisory groups in what adhesive might work on the stickers to put on the project resources along with a working group to come up with the little slogans to put on the fences around building sites. All very important. They also have a huge team of photoshop experts making pictures of what it might look like.
Even before Simon mentioned the Aral Sea, I immediately thought of it. When the Aral Sea dried up after decades of mismanagement, the salt sediments got picked up by the wind, including any pollutants therein, and there's a big increase in thyroid cancer in the region, not to mention the significant rise in local temperatures. Drying up the Red Sea would provoke a similar environmental catastrophe.
@jckc9598
Жыл бұрын
Rebirth island was soviet bio germ warfare base on an island. It’s closed now but before soviets left the poured all the weapons on the ground , now after the U.S. and others did there best to clean it but it’s been blowing up in the wind for yrs. The soviets largest production was death now it’s the Russians turn. Gross.
@stephanc6138
Жыл бұрын
good thing the 'scientists' isn't in a position to carry it out. better prevention than cure. from extinction than relying on science to bring them back. mammoth anyone?
@LeoDomitrix
Жыл бұрын
Same. My first thought was, "Oh, thi sis going wrong eighteen ways just in concept.". Mys econd was "See Lake Meade". .... Nope.
@JacobBax
Жыл бұрын
It was even found in Antarctica
A dam on top of an active tectonic rift....what could go wrong
I remember reading about this and thinking just how crazy the idea was lol. The fact it would affect the globe was insane.
Would it not be cheaper in concrete and material usage to make 50 nuclear power plants ?
@j.brendenstookey3437
Жыл бұрын
Short answer, almost certainly.
@chaddog313
Жыл бұрын
That would be the reasonable thing to do
@mightym
Жыл бұрын
At an average of $10b per GW, that would be $500b for 50GW, and you would only get 1GW in maybe 10 years. $200b for a 50GW dam is much better. But $50bn for 50GW of solar panels, and $100bn for batteries with a weeks storage is even better
@mightym
Жыл бұрын
@@j.brendenstookey3437definitely not. 50 nuclear plants would be around $500b
@pinga858
Жыл бұрын
Short term, maybe. Long term, no.
This should have its own channel - Megastupidprojects
This sounds like madness. Real mad scientist stuff.
Well dam, that's a crazy idea! Sealing the Red Sea is the equivalent of shutting down the Panama Canal. This is a horrendous disaster in the making for both the environment AND global trade! It's like they looked at the Aral Sea and said, "I'll do you better". Not just Egypt's success because of the Suez, but Djibouti's economy has done tremendously well because of its location at the mouth of the Red Sea. Countries like France, the US, and even China and Japan all have bases there because of the country's strategic importance. All of this success would disappear if this dam became reality. So they'd need more than just a little "compensation".
@gordesmihaela4635
Жыл бұрын
China will make the Belt. Then, all the trade will be done by 5 km trains. No more ships...
50 gigawatts does seem like a lot of power. Except it's not going to get to that level initially, nor in the short-term, nor in the medium term. 300+ years to get the full output is a long time, particularly with the rate to technological development. This whole project seems like a massive long term loss even with the proposed power gain (assuming a better method of generation isn't found before it hits its stride.)
@shuaige3360
Жыл бұрын
Plus you need to maintain it for 300 years…
@highdesertutah
Жыл бұрын
Saved me some typing.
@jdilksjr
Жыл бұрын
No way that humans can build a complex structure that will last that long.
@JeRefuseDeBienPrononcerBaleine
Жыл бұрын
@@jdilksjr Except we did. There's plenty of human structure that were built centuries or millennia ago that are still usable. Sure, they're not very complex by our standard but they were when they were built.
@hillockfarm8404
Жыл бұрын
@@JeRefuseDeBienPrononcerBaleine Not in a destructive environment with moving tectonic plates and salt water. Buildings on dry, solid ground are way simpler due to the stability of the factors involved.
I think one other huge thing was glossed over here, the danger of putting all your eggs in one basket for power production. Imagine if something did go wrong or this thing got attacked? 50 gigawatts is a HUGE loss of power to a grid system and would be basically impossible to reproduce in a moderate amount of time. Grids are supposed to be designed to be resilient, but this kind of power production at a single site wouldn't be. It goes back to the same issue the internet has today, AWS, GCP, and Azure run like 50% of the web, when ones goes down everything stops working. Distributed power systems make way more sense, such as small modular reactors (SMR).
@texasslingleadsomtingwong8751
Жыл бұрын
Kind of like Norde stream 1 and 2 .
@gomahklawm4446
Жыл бұрын
Who would attack it? We all know....USA....because of increased shipping costs to European vassal states.
As for GOOD dams, we've built the Nampo Dam. It is a large, eight-km-long system of dams, three lock chambers, and 36 sluices, allowing the passage of ships up to 50K tons. The dam closes the Taedong River off from the Yellow Sea. It was built by the Korean People's Army from 1981 to 1986, with the resources of the whole country directed to this main construction project. The West Sea Barrage Line runs over the dam. The goals were to prevent seawater intrusion into the fresh water, thus solving the water supply problem as well as allowing the irrigation of additional land, enlarging the arable territory of the region
@locomotive9000
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your family's wise leadership, Dear Leader 😂
@SeedemFeedemRobots
Жыл бұрын
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Wait did you say “after about 300 years”???
You know how annoying qualifiers like: "50x the power of a nuclear plant" are? Like, there are all shapes and sizes of reactors, and nuclear plants have different numbers of reactors. It's as bad as, "x times as powerful as a gun." Like, man, what caliber? There's a couple orders of magnitude in there.
@captiannemo1587
Жыл бұрын
It’s to chase likes…
@garretth8224
Жыл бұрын
Its even better when they don't show you how they got that number.
@nonconsensualopinion
Жыл бұрын
They addressed it in the video. They said the biggest approaches 8GW and most are 1GW. Did you not watch before commenting?
@SweBeach2023
Жыл бұрын
Most nuclear power plants are around 1 GW. Some slightly larger, some slightly smaller. But 50x is a good enough approximation for a KZread channel like this one.
@HisCarlnessI
Жыл бұрын
@@nonconsensualopinion That's nearly an order of magnitude. Could literally just list the wattage and move on with it. And no, I did not watch the video. I try not to reward that type of title with view time.
Nuclear power plants would make a lot more sense
@QwoaX
Жыл бұрын
Not in this area, though. Which river would you get water from for cooling? There is none. The giant deserts are great for solar and the coastlines are great for wind. For example, Saudi Arabia could become a Saudi Arabia but for renewables instead of for oil.
@YanBaoQin
Жыл бұрын
@@QwoaX why not just use the Red Sea as the heat sink?
@andrewlucia865
Жыл бұрын
@@YanBaoQin You couldn't use the water from the sea directly, primarily because it's saltwater and saltwater tends to be extremely corrosive to any sort of machinery. That said, the nuclear power plants could just power a desalination plant specifically for the production of coolant and steam feedwater. It's not like saltwater has been a major obstacle for steam based power for a while, ships have had their own onboard desalination plants for a while now for the production of freshwater, both for human use and to help replenish their feedwater supply. Honestly, speaking of desalination plants, we really ought to be building a lot more of them. Would certainly help with the depletion of river and groundwater resources that some regions of the world are contending with.
@hughparsonage4446
Жыл бұрын
@@QwoaX There's a fairly big one in Egypt I seem to remember.
@YanBaoQin
Жыл бұрын
@@andrewlucia865 the US Navy uses seawater almost exclusively for its nuclear power plants
I am more convinced of the need for energy dense generation of electricity now than I have ever been. This is another example of why it is necessary, all the objections revolve around the amount of land,water,etc used to make it. Dam the Red Sea and Damn the consequence I see what you did there.
I live close to the Severn Estuary in the UK and the building of a barrage to generate electricity from the tidal action of the river has been mentioned on and off for 30 years. The potential output would dwarf any current nuclear power station and would be reasonably continuous (except for the period when the tide turns). Not sure of the price or the impact on the surrounding ecosystem but I'd say both would be huge - although nothing compared to the project covered in this video
I highly doubt that Eygpt will allow it to go anywhere as it will kill their economy which is heavily dependent on the Suez Canal to transports ships
Maybe we should just make 50 nuclear reactors instead?
@SebastianLarsen
Жыл бұрын
At least they are safe, unlike dams.
@luxurybuzz3681
Жыл бұрын
@@SebastianLarsen nuclear reactors aren't safe
@bronzedivision
Жыл бұрын
You'd only need about 30 or so if they're EPR's a proven and operating design. And there's really no limit on size, it's sadly unstudied but nuclear reactors are probably economical up to several gigawatts depending on type.
@luxurybuzz3681
Жыл бұрын
@@bronzedivision 1.21 Gigawatts???!!! I'm sorry future boy but the only power souce that can produce that is a bolt of lightning!
@V3RTIGO222
Жыл бұрын
@@SebastianLarsen not sure if sarcasm, but actually yes lol... The amount of people who died constructing Hoover Dam alone is greater than any direct deaths from Three Mile, Chernobyl, and Fukushima combined. The irony is that when people start to treat things that are dangerous as anything less than inevitably call upon the grave. There are untold scores of men who make up parts of the Hoover Dam's foundation, irrecoverably buried in concrete.
Strange to see your production team miss the correct release date for this presentation, 1 April! Also strange that it was not released on your Into the Shadows channel considering the unknowable depth of the ecological down side.
@JackieOwl94
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I mean, who needs electricity if you’re starving to death from lack of food due to drought and no more fishing, right?
I suspect the rate of constructing power stations is such that by the time this project becomes viable (100 - 300 years from now) its contribution to the world wide demand for electricity would be insignificant.
They blew up the Nord pipe without a second thought They'd blow up this damn in a geopolitical heartbeat.
For this much money, you could develop thorium nuclear plants and just fix the entire world energy problem.
@hubertino855
Жыл бұрын
You could probably solve fusion for this money...
@RJM1011
Жыл бұрын
Thorium has already been sorted out how to use it but sadly the USA, UK and others keep shitting on it. In a few years China will have it up and running and be years ahead.
@MrOMGtime
Жыл бұрын
@@hubertino855 yea, just throw money at your problems and they will be solved lmao
@hubertino855
Жыл бұрын
@@MrOMGtime That was sarcasm? It's obvious that money will not solve every problem but it helps... Obviously spending it on building modern nuclear or nuclear research like thorium or SMR's will be better and with faster returns... And not building giga tarded dam... But aiming for fusion in the future is not an bad idea.
@I.C.Weiner
Жыл бұрын
@@MrOMGtime works in the education system.
"Hey, let's dammed the red sea" *One ecological disaster later* "Wtf dude, I didn't sign up to destroy the ecosystems"
GOOD RESEARCH THANK YOU
The fish told me they want to take their chances with coal.
I don't think this is ever going to happen. It has more negative side effects than benefits.
@jennyanydots2389
Жыл бұрын
That's what your mom said about anal.... now her bee whole is getting blasted out by multiple homeless men on the regular. The point is, Shawn, something might look like a painfully bad idea but in the end, might be massively cost-effective. You don't have to apologize to me son, as the bigger man I don't need those kinds of things from boys like you.
@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
Жыл бұрын
And it would be a bombing attack magnet, considering the geopolitical status quos native to the region
@jennyanydots2389
Жыл бұрын
@@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing Your bee whole is already a BBC sea men dump magnet so you would know about the nature of such things.
Even ignoring every other problem, how much more carbon output by the 20,000+ ships yearly that would have to go around Africa instead of through Suez?
I don't think it's a good idea either but it's absolutely good to put it out there so it can be evaluated and considered. Sharing ideas isn't irresponsible. It's what's necessary to have an informed discussion about potential options.
"Aater about 300 years" Yea... I kind of think I stick to nuclear for now.
@perryrush6563
Жыл бұрын
300 years?! Damn don't even last that long! Wowzer
I can see a new meme come out of this. When someone has an idea that is possibly the stupidest thing ever come up with we can all shout “AT LEAST ITS SMARTER THAN DAMNING THE RED SEA!”
This has a showstopper of huge proportions that goes beyond engineering. All the shipping traffic would then have to go around the southern tip of Africa, breaking a long-established supply chain and dramatically increasing traffic prices for imports from Asia.
@larrybolhuis1049
Жыл бұрын
AND increasing carbon emissions due to all those ships burning all the extra fuel to make the longer journey.
Ideas like this are very interesting, especially when considering all the consequences. It all goes to show that we really, really need nuclear fusion on a large scale.
Lets dry out an entire sea! What could possibly go wrong?!
Simon Whistler making a mega projects video on the topic of the F22 Raptor also remains a thought experiment to this very day.
I guess this was how Warhammer 40k's Terra's oceans disappeared.
All of the sudden building 40 nuclear reactors seems like a piece of cake.
300 years? By then fusion energy will be old news
@jdilksjr
Жыл бұрын
Nope, by then fusion will only be 30 years away.
The Ever Given tried that a few years ago when it blocked the Suez canal, and the few days while one ship was blocking transit were catastrophic. This is a deeply stupid idea.
A 60 mile long dam, completely carbon neutral xD
This is looking really relevant in light of the current situation around and in the Red Sea.
The guy who came up with this idea must of been so high when he thought of this 😂😂😂
@mennovanlavieren3885
Жыл бұрын
Dutch
@patrickjordan2233
Жыл бұрын
"and didn't share.."🤣😂🤣
It's like a supervillain thought this up.
4:01 “For one thing, the Red Sea is a tectonically active airRrRrrrrRr”
The guys who propose this mega Project are the very definition of a mad scientist.
That's dam crazy!
The area around YaBooty, near the Red Sea, is going to be valuable in the near future
If the red sea evaporation is so high there will already be a large flow of seawater at normal salinity into the red sea at the sea surface, and a large flow of higher salinity seawater out of the red sea into the Indian ocean at the sea floor. (this also happens at the straits of Gibraltar at the entrance to the Meditterenean sea. This could have it's energy tapped by turbines sitting on the sea floor, with little ecological impact and no need for a dam. Alos it would only need the government on one side of the sea to agree on this . It would be interesting to see a paper on the potential power production. ???
That project is just nuts.
Why not build more solar? It’s surrounded by deserts.
@flyingmonkeydeathsquadronc968
Жыл бұрын
sand storms ruin solar panels
@freesk8
Жыл бұрын
Too expensive per KWH compared to nuclear and other power sources.
@tayzonday
Жыл бұрын
@Curiosity I never deliberately stopped, though I am autistic and struggle to be verbal. That can contribute to gaps.
This dam makes thalidomide seem like the best invention ever.
How many KZread channels do you have Mr. Whistler? I feel like a see a new one recommended at least once a week lol
@jamesleduke873
Жыл бұрын
All of them. He runs all the KZread channels.
I’m so glad that every country in this world have a Red Sea they can dam
you could probably make 100s of nuclear power plants for a fraction of the cost of this dam and gain far more power. if ive learned one thing from the idea to dam the mediterranean its that the seas have a massive impact on the temperature of the planet, and messing with them too much is gonna end poorly.
I'd rather 10 fukushima's then anything close to this destuctive.
thank you
In UK they have been talking about putting a dam across the Solway Firth for at least the last 60 years. That project would be so easy compared with this.
@chendaforest
Жыл бұрын
Yeah and they should look at it again I think.
The amount of effort people put into not using nuclear power which is better than this in every conceivable way really never ceases to amaze.
50 Gigawatts is enough to power 41 time machines!
What got me is it will take 300 years for the dam to reach its full output. That’s an awful long time for
I feel like this was supposed to be released on the first of this month.
Generating the power may be carbon neutral, but building the dam would create huge amount's of carbon that would most likely never be offset over 50 years of running it
@larrybolhuis1049
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention all the extra carbon generated by not being able to ship through the Suez Canal. Every Single Day!
We did it guys, we're carbon neutral! *Earth is now a desert*
Literally my first thought was about the Aral Sea. Might have made sense for a moonshot of a mega project 50 years ago but now it'd make far more sense to just slap $500 Billion in nuclear, solar, and wind in the most arid parts of the world. You'd get a larger and more widespread ROI, lessoned ecological impact, and most desert nations that aren't major oil producers are the definitive example of third world, they could definitely use the boost in development.
Taking all of that weight off of a divergent plate boundary would cause a rebound of the sea floor. This would lead to increased volcanic activity throughout this valley.
If you want a preview of the blowing salt, visit the Salton Sea in far south California ! Do a show on that …
what about simply harnessing the existing currents of salt water flowing into the red and Mediterranean seas from their respective oceans, using good old submerges turbines?
"Damn the consequences." 👏👏👏
There are ways around this. Even a causeway crossing the Gulf of Aqaba, with a opening containing tide based impellers, would generate a significant amount of power and would have minor environmental impacts. That said, the power generated by wind along the Yemeni and Omani Southern Coasts, which is brisk and monsoonal, combined with solar power arrays along the Red Sea would probably more than compensate for any power created via a dam.
You would get more power by covering the RedSea in solar panels.
50 Gigawatts is more than 41 trips through time in a DeLorean!
@whosaidthat5236
Жыл бұрын
Finally a great comment lol 👍🏻
Damn the dam!
By evaporating a massive ocean, they would cause the weather patterns in that area, and likely the world, to change.
@grantmccoy6739
Жыл бұрын
Ehh, it's already evaporating at that rate. It would be a lack of evaporation that would matter more I think.
@ronblack7870
Жыл бұрын
as more land gets exposed the evap rate does go down so does affect the local weather
Just the concept of this dam is one of the stupidest things I have heard of.
@namename9998
Жыл бұрын
Flooding the sahara sounds almost as bad. What does simon have against africa lol
I like it. It's incredibly stupid. It doesn't address stopping extinctions from it all together. It doesn't have a design to allow continued use for trade. Nor any use for the increased salt and other minerals
Crazy project that it's hard to believe it the proposal got as far as it did. That said, the science fiction geek in me can't help grin at the idea of such long-term megaprojects being made and the ecological transformation it would engender. I think there was a similar proposal in the 1930s/40s to dam off the Mediterranean which would have dried up the sea. However that project was just about creating more land for agriculture rather than generating electricity.
Seems like it would be easier to do it at the Strait of Gibraltar which is only 13km across at the narrowest point.
@samuelwoolwineiv7886
Жыл бұрын
Its also 900 meters deep
@chaddog313
Жыл бұрын
There was a mega projects video about that I think. It was about draining the Mediterranean and building a new utopia in it.
@Mgl1206
Жыл бұрын
@@chaddog313 there is, and nobody wants it
Simon, concrete doesn't last 300 years. The best we can get out of it is 150 years before it starts to fall apart. This idea can never be achieved.
@kaseyboles30
Жыл бұрын
Usually. Roman concrete is much older. And they just figured out how it lasts so long.
@nesca647
Жыл бұрын
Regular concrete can't. But roman concrete still stands doesn't it ? We can make an improved version of it. (Idea of the dam is shit though)
@TheBooban
Жыл бұрын
I thought he misspoke when he said 300 years.
@TheBooban
Жыл бұрын
4:37 doesn’t seem it would be concrete. Though I can’t figure out what it would be.
@ABaumstumpf
Жыл бұрын
How do people come up with such bullshit? Concrete will basically last FOREVER. The thing that will break down is simple reinforced concrete - cause after some time the steel will start corroding and that is what destroys the structure. And no, ancient concrete is rather poor quality in comparison. Most of it has crumbles millenia ago. The only things that are left standing are those very few exceptions that just happen to have the right mixture and perfect conditions to last long - mostly areas with rather mild weather, no other outside forces that could damage it, and nearly completely static loads. If you used those same mixtures and tried making a sidewalk in northern europe out of that they would fail within a couple of years.
There was a similar proposal for the Mediterranean. Would the massive increase in shipping cost matter? This is after all one of the major shipping channels....
An interesting idea… what about wave motion generators or current based electricity in the area?
I'm no biologist but... that probably will kill all the fish
Damn. People want to try literally everything but nuclear power.
50 GW could be generated by covering a few square miles of desert with photovoltaic at a much lower cost.
@wildbill6976
Жыл бұрын
if you use common core math maybe, if you use real math, 2 square miles of solar would only produce 2 gwh at most at peak sunlight...
@w.o.jackson8432
Жыл бұрын
Solar panels are extremely inefficient and (obviously) don't work at night. It's not a solution.
I was just watching your video on raven rock from about 2 years ago and it reminded me of another facility that I live by that is conspired to be an underground facility in Tracy California you should make a video on it I can't find anything
With the canal closed, has anybody considered what the Somali Pirates will do for employment???
@mennovanlavieren3885
Жыл бұрын
Fishing, like they did before. Oh wait....
How about an analysis of the disappearing Dead Sea problem and any possible plans to recharge it by pipeline from the Red Sea at Aqaba. I am particularly interested in knowing how much seawater it would take to bring the lake to sea level and how this might help in some small way to retard sea level rise from global warming. The Dead Sea Project. Great site!
just cover a small part of the sahara in solar panels and you can power the entire world.
RIP global trade
sounds like a good idea, how soon can we get started?