"The Red Bull junior team is NOT successful anymore" 👀 | Jaime Alguersuari | Sky Sports F1 Podcast
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On the latest Sky Sports F1 Podcast, Jaime Alguersuari talks about the Red Bull Junior team, Nyck de Vries and Daniel Ricciardo and his life after F1 and DJing.
Introduction - 00:00
Jaime on Nyck de Vries - 07:29
Jaime on his career - 15:01
What would be a successful season for Danny Ric? - 16:05
Jaime on Red Bull and Max - 21:10
Jaime on his contract option - 26:15
How can Carlos Sainz take the next step - 32:10
Jaime on Max's domination - 35:40
Jaime's DJ career - 40:00
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By far the most interesting podcast so far. So cool and refreshing to hear from someone without having to have a filter on their thoughts!
Always thought him and Buemi got a bad hand. They were really solid mid field drivers and while Riccardo and Jev were good too, it seemed unfair these guys lose their seats.
@Tjescoo
10 ай бұрын
But Bernie wanted an Australian driver in F1 and politics are more important than people. They put Ricciardo in the car this fast because of his popularity and the lack of De Vries'. If there was another Mexican driver available, I'm sure that Perez would be replaced just as easily. Politics is not easily talked about but a huge factor in giving drivers chances and seats.
@davidchapman3042
10 ай бұрын
@@Tjescooyes thats what he refererred to much higher power above marko, it was bernie who wanted to leverage Melbourne gp with a australian driver in a top team so he pushed rb to give him the seat and that’s why through no fault of theirs despite driving incredibly well and deserving a long f1 careers, both him and buemi were robbed of success on merit, they were just as good drivers as lando russel and max as rookies at the time and they got axed unfairly depsite having more than enough talent to be in f1
@steffighter144
10 ай бұрын
Buemi is a very good driver. It showed in Le Mans and Formula E.
This guy is great, would love to see him for more analysis and commentary in future
LOVE the honesty! Great to hear the truth from the inside, without having to be careful 👏👏
I don't understand the Liam Lawson argument. Why would you bring him in now to drive a car that is the worst on the grid with pressure already in thst second sit? It's better to bring him in next year when the team has had a chance to reset. Having Riccardo in the second sit is an obvious choice to me because if he doesn't perform redbull can tell him thst he had his chance and if he performs and perez continues to struggle he gets the redbull sit
@mousje4647
10 ай бұрын
I'm with you
@gribbin7889
10 ай бұрын
Plus it’s a better benchmark for Yuki
@gealingeman8643
10 ай бұрын
WELL SAID. You are so right
@CJ-zi9fg
10 ай бұрын
I think they were coming at the point of the junior team failing , hard to argue that when they're bringing in a 34 y/o over a 21 y/o, also perez never came through the junior team
Brilliant that's so refreshing to hear truth &honesty about the sport, not being held back by team &sponsor with what to say. Great interview.
@eduardosantana8300
10 ай бұрын
Because sky f1 has absolutely no biases and didn’t handpick this conversation to go as it went... don’t be a wedge mate
@andrewtrimble1095
10 ай бұрын
@@eduardosantana8300 but luckily we are all entitled to our own opinions and able to comment on them so don't call me your mate ✌️
@eduardosantana8300
10 ай бұрын
@@andrewtrimble1095 if we are all entitled to our own comments, than I am entitled to call you mate. Funny enough, you have a problem with being called mate, but made no objections on being called the simplest tool. Congratulations mate, you truly are a wedge.
@andrewtrimble1095
10 ай бұрын
@@eduardosantana8300 lol , cmon u can do better than that surely.
@eduardosantana8300
10 ай бұрын
@@andrewtrimble1095 I probably could, but I don’t need to. As long as I can out do your thoughtless paragraph, I’ll be able to sleep soundly. I’d love to step my game up, i just think it’ll be overkill with someone so simple.
Genuinely on if the best podcasts/interviews for F1 I’ve ever heard. Such an open and honest conversation and I’m chuffed Sky F1 have shared this. Makes you appreciate the sport and the drivers so much more.
Gentlemen, we've found someone even more based at F1 Commentary than Nico Chadberg (didn't think it was possible).
Ricciardo Verstappen Sainz Tsunoda Albon Gasly Literally 30% of the grid came through the RB junior program with Liam Lawson expected to get into F1 next year. 😂
@joestephenson527
10 ай бұрын
Because Red Bull have a second team dedicated to giving said drivers an opportunity. No other team can take that risk, therefore Red Bull obviously provide more drivers. On the broader spectrum, the junior team has been disappointing recently in the junior categories, with Marko himself even wanting to reduce the numbers.
@MaliciousAFC90
10 ай бұрын
@@joestephenson527 Yes but it isn’t failing then if 30% of the grid have come through the program. Yes there is a gap now where the talent hasn’t been that great, but what amazing talent aside from Piastri has come in as a rookie since Lando and George in 2019?
@joestephenson527
10 ай бұрын
@@MaliciousAFC90 But like Jaime said, signing Perez proved it isn’t working anymore. Although 30 percent of the grid are made up of RB academy drivers, only Verstappen is world champion material. Gasly failed, Albon was rushed, ric is now back in the junior team, and Sainz could never match Verstappen. Having double the seats than anyone else on the grid is always going to allow you to have a higher percentage of drivers on the grid in the long run.
@indobleh
10 ай бұрын
The point was everything all of it was aimed at getting two Red Bull drivers. When they got Perez it was proof their program wasn't working. That was his point.
@MaliciousAFC90
10 ай бұрын
@@indobleh But who knows, maybe Juri Vips would have been at AT with Tsunoda at RB, or any other variation. Signing Checo was a hit to the programme but it doesn’t mean it’s not successful. Because it is..
F1 mysteries to be answered in future: 1. Why did Toro Rosso suddenly drop Alguersuari and Buemi without any reason? 2. Why did Mercedes change Rosberg's and Hamilton's garage crew in 2016 What is clear, at least Jaime believes, it was not a racing decision taken by the racing team and Helmut, but it was maybe more of a marketing move by Red Bull corporate management?
@alphaalpha8656
10 ай бұрын
Regarding (2) You will know the answer after Hamilton retired from the sport
@NadirAgha
10 ай бұрын
@@alphaalpha8656 He promised us to give the answer in his book until 2026
@Matthew-bu7fg
10 ай бұрын
Because Alguersuari and Buemi weren't going anywhere and had been with the team for 3 years(?). Neither were convincing enough to take Webber's Red Bull seat
Great podcast. Thanks, Jaime!
"And for some reason [Daniel Ricciardo] was upgraded to Red Bull Racing..." That reason was he smoked Vettel's lap times in testing.
Fantastic interview. Detailed insights and honesty
Checo is only there because he controls a certain market. It's massive
@ekafebrianita
10 ай бұрын
And he brings huge sponsors money to the team too, which RB academy drivers probably don't have...
@dodgemF1
10 ай бұрын
@@ekafebrianitaCheco was on his way out of the sport thanks to Lawrence Stroll's nepotism. RBR threw him a bone.
@jimwest7107
10 ай бұрын
True, next year RB will have to weigh that up with Ricciardo coming back with better race pace.
@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044
10 ай бұрын
AND...The main reason he's there, as Alguersauri told you, is because the Red Bull Junior Team is a mess and don't have any drivers better than Perez around to partner Verstappen.
@ronmastrio2798
10 ай бұрын
@@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044 Dunno about that Tsunoda could easily get out of Q1 in a Red Bull.
This was great. Love the honestly in this interview - Jaime is a great guy
Can you interview Sebastién Buemi? Would be interesting to see him again.
What a quality interview , we need more like this one
this guy is good at making points. very enjoyable to listening to
Well, this is a little gem for real F1 fans. So much genuine and transparent insights particularly regarding Red Bull, coming from someone who isn't afraid to speak freely but also isn't unfair and unbalanced, a driver who is at peace with its past although he went through the entire Red Bull rollercoaster. Brilliant!
What is the figure to finance the Junior Program for year?
Only love for Jaime
Why do Skysports hate Redbull that much.
Great show- I got respect for Jamie now that I didn’t have before maybe
JA has always been awesome saying how it is. He was always great to the fans and a definite "lost talent". He's right though, the program is failing when it can't promote from within which is its whole purpose.
@Matthew-bu7fg
10 ай бұрын
6 of the 20 drivers on the grid are Red Bull juniors/ex Toro Rosso. How on Earth is it failing? Ricciardo is promoting from within... he is a Red Bull Junior (albeit from the past).
Jaime was a solid driver
I really like Jaime.
So honest ❤👍🏻
Aahw such a nice therapy session with this guy. Hopefully he will get over his heartaches!
@ekafebrianita
10 ай бұрын
Well after pretty much fighting for his life to survive in a cut throat academy, and just suddenly got dropped with no reason, he's lucky he didn't go insane 😅
The brains power who builds, operate, and develop the car have a lot greater contribution than the driver who drives the car in term of generating fastest lap time on tracks. Old Maca was the 6-7 best car on the grid prior to is Austrian upgrade. Now Norris’ upgraded Maca is a joint 2 best cars with Merc, Aston, and Ferrari behind RBR. It is just a small portion of the whole car of which get upgraded components. Now compare to the driver, if you completely change the whole package Norris or Piastry with either Hamilton, Max, Alonso, Leclerc, or Russell, but the car they will get is the old spec, the improvement wouldn't be massive like upgrading the car, let alone close.
Brittish media RB bash is a national sport. RB are 20% of the grid in terms of teams and they have drivers from the academy in 5 out of ten teams, hardly a failure. Matt not happy not getting juicier gossip or on comments that noone can beat Max.
@chriscollins550
10 ай бұрын
Britsh media lol. Shows you don't pay attention to other countries media. They all say the same thing about redbull apart from one countries fan base. It's basically the same opinion though out f1 about redbull. Worst part is when any fan defends their favourite team or driver, that's not being a real sport's/racing fan that's just being a fan of one person or team. Redbull did everything right and kept themselves clean over the year's fan's and media around the world would have no reason to bash them.
@Pricelessmile
10 ай бұрын
Just some more random British hate (can't even spell it lol)
@gealingeman8643
10 ай бұрын
Well said
I hope the current RB jr program has a mental health support because this (37:00) could take a high toll at a young age.
I guess, on behalf of everyone, thank you for not signing for Lotus and allowing Kimi to come back to F1
@KaoriKorazon19
10 ай бұрын
I like Jaime but AMEN to ths!
Jheez talk about a blast from the past, whose next max chilton? that late 2000s early 2010s era of random teams with random drivers was funny. How times have changed
Wasn't this the bloke that his father ran Formula Renault 3.5?
It's always going to hit a point where you've got the driver you want and the rest are thrown to the dogs.
39:32 39:47
@crztank9298
10 ай бұрын
Matt not happy with those time stamps
DJ Squire!!!
Jaime has a point, but I would reiterate it into "Red Bull junior programme is not efficient anymore". They still get plenty of talent to the front door of F1, but there's just too many of them. Red Bull needs to reform their academy and focus only on the best.
@grandmasterj5
10 ай бұрын
You also need to remember that F1 isn't the only part of motorsports that Red Bull is associated with. These other drivers will go on to Formula E, Indy, GT/endurance, Touring, DTM etc etc. Furthering drivers careers, I'd say that's still a successful driver academy.
Vettel, Verstappen, Ricciardo, Sainz, Gasly, Kvyat… Name a more successful junior programm
@chriscollins550
10 ай бұрын
Yes by using to team's and 4 seats no other team has that opportunity. For the amount they have brought though look how many have failed and the fact they had to bring outside driver's in like perez and bring back Ricardo to feel seat's. Yet they have such a great program lol. More of a percentage failure
@goodshipkaraboudjan
10 ай бұрын
Marlboro
@downydutch3203
10 ай бұрын
@@chriscollins550 Didn't know Ocon, Russel and Leclerc got their first seat with Mercedes and Ferari. I know they where their juniors but didn't know they wheren't placed in an AlphaTauri like seat to start their carreers, I mean like you say they don't have a seat like that to give away right. Good to know! Also goo to know that Merc has 2 Merc Drivers. Didn't know Hamilton started his career there. Or Sainz at Ferari, Ocon and Gasly at Alpine, Stroll and Alonso at Aston Martin. Wow the things you are teaching me are incredible.
@chriscollins550
10 ай бұрын
@downydutch3203 I didn't say anything of what you just said at. I know we're everyone of them driver's started. Yours just saying thing's out of context and using other name's of driver's. Red bull junior is a complete failure as what the driver's that have come through have not achieved any championship or race wins to how much it's costing per driver to train. Now do you understand the point or us it still to hard understand. Out of all the driver's they train over 80% don't even get a race seat in any red bull team even outside of f1.
@downydutch3203
10 ай бұрын
You where saying that only RedBull have more than 2 seats available. Leclerc/Russel/Ocon all starting in different teams while being Ferari/Mercedes drivers proves you wrong. there are 11 racewinners out of 20 on the current roster. 4 of them got there start because of redbull. Just making up numbers makes you look stupid. Schwarzmann wishes he was a RedBull driver right now, because than he probably would have had a seat in an AlphaTauri even if it was for just half a year. Or Drugovich still sitting on his ass at Aston Martin being a F2 champion. Hell even Piastri couldn't get a seat at Alpine while being one of the biggest talents of his generation. Where will Vesti go if he wins F2 this year? Not driving in a Merc I bet.
Sky is not taking the Red Bull dominance very well…
@anonymous-hy1qy
10 ай бұрын
I quite like it the more verstappen dominates the angrier the reporters get which is hilarious to watch
lol, Sky Sports F1 just doesn’t let up on the Red Bull Hate do they? 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🙄🙄🙄🥱🥱🥱
@saqib_999
10 ай бұрын
Did they forget Tsunoda? Their junior team is a lot more successful then any other team has managed so. Other teams resort to poaching talent from elsewhere
@Felonator
10 ай бұрын
To even think sky sports hates a team is just pathetic. Maybe they understand the dynamic way more than you do.
@TheFinalMeowntdown
10 ай бұрын
@@saqib_999”Resort” to “poaching” - unlike back in the 20th century when every driver spent their entire career with one team. 😂 Red Bull didn’t invent Formula 1. Shocker, I know.
@xenico8233
10 ай бұрын
Don't think they are hating on them, I enjoyed the analysis, it shows how brutal it is, but has produced at least 3 excellent drivers: Ric, Verstappen & Vettel, plus some other very solid midfield to top-end drivers like Kvyat, Gasly, Sainz and Albon.
Helmut Marko would have been sacked by Helmut Marko ;)
Interesting what he said about the influence of his father and karting to Max because Lando had a similar upbringing with his father traveling the world with Lando. Lando was also the youngest world champion and did it in just six years.
@jacksonb6859
10 ай бұрын
Yes but Lando’s father wasn’t a former Formula 1 driver
@goodshipkaraboudjan
10 ай бұрын
Landos Dad is also super wealthy and was able to pay to open doors.
@KaoriKorazon19
10 ай бұрын
@@jacksonb6859 esp w his disposition & drove w schumi
Some would say Sky’s Anti Red Bull agenda continues .
@chriscollins550
10 ай бұрын
Some would say try reading or listening to other worldwide outlets of the sport and they all say the same thing about redbull. The worst part of it is their own fan's not seeing what redbull have said and done in the past and them fan's defend their favourite team because of that reason it's their favourite team. Personally in my opinion how can you be a fan of racing and have a favourite driver or team for that reason alone you all see thing's from one point of view. Redbull fan's are the one's that are saying everyone is biased against redbull. But to see thing's biased you have to be biased yourself.
@nosebleedpuddle
10 ай бұрын
@@chriscollins550 I understand where you're coming from in terms of having a favourite driver / team and being somewhat bias but in order for your statement to be true, all outlets and news coverage would have to be unbiased which if you're completely honest with yourself, it's not and it never has been. Everyone has their bias.
@chriscollins550
10 ай бұрын
@nosebleedpuddle that's right. But then you can't complain about it if you are too. I love f1 but the best thing I did was not follow one team or driver it's opened the sport so much more to me. You veiw incidents differently and hear see thing's on a even veiw point.
@michaelhansen2309
10 ай бұрын
@@chriscollins550 But why is it failing when Liam is competing to win Super Formula and will likely get in F1 next season. And in F2 a RB driver is currently in third? What worldwide news outlets is saying it's "failing"
@chriscollins550
10 ай бұрын
@@michaelhansen2309 read back though my comment. The part about world media having the same view on redbull was about the hate they get not just from the British media and that's what the original person comment on this thread was about. Next it's failing because the number of driver's they bring though and to make it into any pro racing seat in any racing series is low to how many they are training and that to the fact they are one of the only team's with more than one team in a racing series says it all. In f1 people say most of the grid is made up of ex redbull driver's how many of them are champions. Then moves that over to any other race series how many of them are champion or have even won race's. Max and vettel was their outstanding driver's to the point it's redbull top name's of achievement out of all racing series. Two driver's out of how many? It's failing because of percentages and cost.
Frustrating when you ask a question about Yuki, and Jaime proceeds to go on a 5 min rant about Perez. Would be nice to circle back on the original question.
Sky sports managing to attack Redbull, surprise surprise
Drivers complain all the time..."if I had a good car, then I could show you." Well if you're Checo, he's got that, so there are no excuses barring mechanical failure. Red Bull have made it clear THEIR goals are that Checo is to be qualifying in Q3, and on podiums if not winning races, because they've designed the current god of all cars. They have the power above all teams right now to recruit whomever they want to sit next to Max. Of course the fan base can scream "give Checo more chances, but the keyboard warriors don't matter to them and their investors or THEIR goals. There is this delusion by others that if you're at the top, you can coast like they perceive Max to be doing, but that is far from it. People at the top want to stay there and will do anything in their power to maintain that, and if that means even cutting someone who is clearly a talent like Checo for someone they think can get the job done by THEIR standards, Checo will be out of a seat. So he and the keyboard warriors can cry if they want to, but they don't hold the keys to the kingdom, Red Bull does. So get it done or get out.
I dont know if he was the best guest. He seems to resent RB for dropping him and living in a state of denial about his abilities. He was a decent midfielder, but not even close to becoming a top tier talent.
And next season Lawson will get either Ricciardo or Tsunoda's seat and the junior program is succesfull again. Because this move to put Ricciardo in is just to test him and Tsunoda.
That’s why he got dropped. Instead of focusing on F1 he was more involved in making music and throwing parties.
@erikahuxley
9 ай бұрын
good for him, f1 has been a snoozefest for decades
The Mercedes academy really doesn’t produce good talent. Only two on the grid - Russell and Ocon
@johnblaze4540
10 ай бұрын
De Vries? He had a fairly successful racing career before joining F1.. I do think he counts as a successful driver for their program
@liam4603
10 ай бұрын
Mercedes don't inundate junior series with drivers and garish liveries. They handpick drivers and support them, not chucking them under the bus at the first chance - like Red Bull.
@Mandykiss4500
10 ай бұрын
@@liam4603People complain about Red Bull, but then last year, there wouldn’t have been Seb, Carlos, Gasly, Albon, Yuki, Max & Checo on the Grid last Year…
@FabioPereira-jx4vm
10 ай бұрын
@@liam4603 tell me one? and if u say Nyck he wouldn't ever get a F1 seat if it wasn't for RB... He just didn't perform is a though sport. Also imagine the amount of kids that would not be able to compete if it wasn't for RB sponsorship? I would prefer if more teams was like them and sponsored a lot of kids in Junior categories. He would have much more quality drivers.
@indobleh
10 ай бұрын
Lovely whataboutism !
Byfar one of the most wasted talents in F1…. I was crying at the time when Jaime and Buemi where dropped by Redbull. Jaime would have been a very good midfield driver and maybe winning contender.
Great podcast but…Man City have a history of success? 😂😂😂
eassyyyyyy my friend easssssyyyyyyy i'd like to see Lewis and Alonso with it to confirm your opinion lmao
"it wasn't Helmut decision, it's something above" he said... 😂
It seems like loyalty is never reciprocated at Alpha Tauri/Toro Rosso and that same loyalty is what ultimately burned Alguersauri and his career.
Lol SkysportsF1, the 'how can we talk trash abt RBR' channel
Jaime is still mad. There's a reason he didn't get picked up by anyone else after Torro Rosso.
Lets hope the senior team does the same thing
he is wearing mascara?
I've been beaten at my own game in asking for quality, qualified guests. I asked for fewer journos and youtubers, and I got it. Yet... A former driver turned DJ? You can do better.
@Budisgud69
10 ай бұрын
I mean he was a formula 3 champion
@Apice.
10 ай бұрын
He wasn't a bad driver
@michael-masi-2021
10 ай бұрын
@@Apice.But can he beatmix?
@DasE30Cuz
10 ай бұрын
I know right? God forbid a driver actually has other interests they now put their energy towards after racing.
@Preso_
10 ай бұрын
Mate just say your new to motorsport in the last 10 years. Jaimie was a highly rated talent after his Formula 3 Championship and is by no means a scrub. Just because he sank in the sink or swim environment of F1 doesn’t discredit any of his opinions/perspectives of the RedBull Junior Team or the sport itself. Jog on champ.
You all called it the Red Bull Junior team. Day 1 it was evident that this team is just a sacrificial lamb for the Red Bull Team. Two cars less to compete with/ Two less potential world champs getting better drives at other teams.
@nosebleedpuddle
10 ай бұрын
The dumbest take.
@erikahuxley
9 ай бұрын
Interesting angle, but makes sense.
Verstappen is ruin f1 and there no one competing with him Perez isn't any good either 😊
@minatoyellowflash100
10 ай бұрын
Hes ruining it for Brits. Im loving it!
Has it ever been that good? Besides Verstappen none of the drivers that have come through the RB juniors have ever really been more than mid field drivers
@danielbrazil4683
10 ай бұрын
Vettel?
@alpacaman6256
10 ай бұрын
Vettel, Ricciardo, Albon
@samdurling6053
10 ай бұрын
Sainz?
@ayeeeitskev
10 ай бұрын
terrible take, ricciardo, vettel, sainz, albon, gasly
@georgeatkey1755
10 ай бұрын
I'm actually ashamed of myself for forgetting Vettel 🤦♂️ Realistically the likes of Gasly, Tsunoda, Sainz etc will be forgotten about as soon as they retire or lose their seats
Not successful? Of the current grid... Verstappen - 2 time WDC. Sainz - race winner at Ferrari Gasly - race winner at Alpine Ricciardo - race winner, back at AlphaTauri Tsunoda - currently driving for AlphaTauri Albon - currently excelling at Williams 6/20 of the current grid are made up by Red Bull juniors of which 4 are race winners and one's a world champion. Jaime's just bitter
@erikahuxley
9 ай бұрын
The program is meant to get drivers to win for Red Bull, not win for competitor teams.
@Matthew-bu7fg
9 ай бұрын
@@erikahuxley that may be but the success of the program can be measured by what it enables drivers to do regardless of what team they drive for. If I look at a football academy and how successful it is I'm not going to just judge its success by how many players graduate to my club's first team, I'd judge the success on how many players play at the highest level regardless of whether it's my team or another team
Jaime just wasn't good enough, Buemi either. Sour grapes.
Haven't seen Pinkham or Brundle for ages on this channel, just endless unknowns with no experience. No point being subbed any more.
@indobleh
10 ай бұрын
Who's the unknown in this video ?
@TheFinalMeowntdown
10 ай бұрын
This isn’t an airport, no need to announce your departure.
@user-iv1ed9mj5i
10 ай бұрын
@@TheFinalMeowntdownI disagree,sky f1 has been so woke and went along with the plandemic charade,so i think its good for folk who were subscribers to vent the annoyance and departure
@ekafebrianita
10 ай бұрын
Bye 👋
@unthenner5519
10 ай бұрын
@@indobleh Matt? He hasn't got a clue nor the slightest bit of interest in F1!
Jaime was never F1 quality why ask for his opinion, the guy was off the radar for years. Whats next the old neighbor of Christian Horner?
@nosebleedpuddle
10 ай бұрын
@@indobleh You can't make that comparison, that's just pure speculation without putting him in the car, mute point.
@nosebleedpuddle
10 ай бұрын
@@indobleh you literally said he's better than some we have now. That's a comparison.
@nosebleedpuddle
10 ай бұрын
@@indobleh you deleted your comment saying that you weren't making a comparison, then you did..
@nosebleedpuddle
10 ай бұрын
@@indobleh of course you're allowed but it's a stupid one to make.
Great podcast but…Man City have a history of success? 😂😂😂
@Kessoku
10 ай бұрын
they have treble?
@rossa23
10 ай бұрын
@@Kessoku name me one top level trophy that they won prior to the takeover.