The character development of Arthur Morgan in this game is unmatchable. It’s unbelievable.

@man.7810

2 жыл бұрын

ARMSTRONG!

@trustworthyh3ro267

2 жыл бұрын

@@man.7810 "I said my sword was a tool for justice....not used in anger....not used in vengeance. But now...I'm not so sure....and besides....THIS ISN'T MY SWORD!"

@r3idmcread212

2 жыл бұрын

His writing is unbelievable. But not unmatchable overall. He’s definitely untouchable in a character determined to change for the better

@deathrager2404

2 жыл бұрын

cliche as fuck. arthur is nothing but a cliche. great voice actor. but the character itself? nothing but cliches.

@Hateful_Rex

2 жыл бұрын

@@deathrager2404 and what isn't cliche in these days? dude thinks he knows everything about character development

The pain in Arthur's voice is honestly just something else. Roger Clark did a fantastic job voicing this legend

@tiromandal6399

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't win awards for no reason.

Did anyone else notice when he went to go collect Arthur's debt he exhaled harder when he saw the kid behind the widow? Shock making the frost in his breath show more. The little details really amaze me the most.

@Adil-sv2xi

Ай бұрын

That’s because Arthur had a son who died in a similar situation, a debt collector came by and killed both the mother and son over a debt of $10.

It physically hurts hearing and seeing the shame in Arthur's voice and eyes. He knows that he deserves what's happening to him but he's still trying his damndest to give himself the smallest amount of forgiveness. Truly one of the finest characters ever to grace the video game scene

@captainmarvelwilson508

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't go as far as to say he deserves what's happening to him. Yes, he was an outlaw part of this gang doing all these robberies and killing rival gangs, but there was a chance that he could redeem himself, even if he wasn't diagnosed. He did however deserve to hear those words from that woman. This is unlike Walter White who ends up pretty much beyond redemption after all the horrible things he has done.

@TheGunBarrelKid

9 ай бұрын

​@@captainmarvelwilson508revenge is definitely a fools game and redemption is a fools delusion.

@captainmarvelwilson508

9 ай бұрын

@@TheGunBarrelKid Redemption is only a delusion if the person just thinks they are redeemable, not if they just want to do better.

It´s actually beautiful storytelling between the missions of Strauss. First Arthur barely cares if he kills to reclaim the debt but after he gets sick he starts seeing things in a different perspective. It´s not until after Arthur (almost literally) encounters himself when he has to claim Arthur Londonderry's debt. He has died & so will Arthur. There is some beautiful parallel in Londonderry's tragic story of having died because he tried to pay someone else's bills. This is the turning point of Arthur because - he too - will die because of paying someone else's bills.

@ah.8840

2 жыл бұрын

Very well observed. Yeah it is definitely a “doppelgänger” of Arthur Morgan hence the same first name. As Arthur is soon to meet the same fate as Arthur Londonderry.

@youraveragejuice6514

2 жыл бұрын

I also think he starts to see in himself as he saw the killer of his son and his son's mom, killing them over 10 dollars

@kckwlrjjrr

2 жыл бұрын

If you think about it, Arthur Morgan is Ser Jaime Lannister.. He came full circle. And in the end, all he cared about is what kind of legacy will he leave....

@OrginalDon

2 жыл бұрын

@@youraveragejuice6514 yeah good observation

@tedscheett9420

2 жыл бұрын

I think what gets me is when the foreman is laughing about Arthur Londonderry dying. It gives me serious Ghost of Christmas Future vibes, where everyone is laughing and making merry the death of Scrooge. And when he absolves the debt, it's like when Scrooge wakes up from the dream.

Arthur had every right. Strauss is the one who sent him after the man that gave him TB.

@server5530

2 жыл бұрын

You mean Thomas Downes also known as the weak bitch who stopped Arthur from killing the big ass abomination Tommy?

@plot6520

2 жыл бұрын

Tuhburkjulosis

@hunter5777NL

2 жыл бұрын

@@plot6520 thats not the real deal lumbago is the shit

I like to see Strauss as a very grey character who is definitely a filthy bastard like pretty Much the rest of the gang but has definitely respect and care for the people he lives with so seeing him getting dropped out so roughly by arthur was kind of heartbreaking. Especially When he said « but i thought I was your friend »

@stoifan91

2 жыл бұрын

I mean Arthur is an outlaw, killer, robber etc. A real criminal. You could argue that he's worse than Strauss for sure. And i would agree. But, they were all part of the same family. They were friends. Arthur choose to collect Strauss' debts in the beginning because it was for their family's sake. But being faced with your own mortality can definitely change a man. And i personally think that Arthur knowing that he's going to die, just had enough of this "family". Dutch going crazy, his brothers going around threatening the other members. Fucking Javier loosing it as well. we know 100% that Arthur knew that this would end up in a shootout. And i'd like to think that no matter how scummy Strauss really is, he was still family. And this was the only way to get him out. Because if you think about it. Arthur made sure most of the others got out just fine as well. Except Susan who i hated quite alot. But she ended up siding with and dying for Arthur. And making me change my opinion of her. Heck, in my second playthrough i got some camp dialogues with her actually always being nice to Arthur. Rockstar really outdid themselves with personalities in this one.

@dman5527x

2 жыл бұрын

@@stoifan91 unfortunately Strauss was interrogated and killed by the Pinkerton after he left as well. Makes the whole thing even more sad when you find out Strauss apparently gave up no information on the gang. He really did view them as family and in all honesty is what Strauss was doing much worse than what the other gang members did? I find it hard to say so. If anything it perfectly lined up with the way they all operated. He may have been a coward, but what other way could he have really helped the gang? Definitely not intimidating or helping in a heist lol

@stoifan91

2 жыл бұрын

@@dman5527x Exactly! I see people shit on Strauss all the time just because Arthur got sick through his quests. But they all ignore the fact that Arthur chose to beat that same innocent man. I really do believe Arthur did what he thought was best for Strauss. Sure, his newfound respect and guilt for other people and the gangs actions against them got him angry. But that doesn't disprove that he was trying to save him as well before shit hit the fan.

@aslightlystablefootsoldier9838

Жыл бұрын

At the end of the day, Strauss had to gain money for the gang to survive. He had to cross the boundaries and extort any sources in any way to keep the income enough to supply the gang. However yeah his morals are mostly gone and near the end game it’s clear the crew isn’t in need of running debts anymore which shows how totally dark Strauss is.

@Longknife

Жыл бұрын

I liken Strauss to a lot of top level CEOs and politicians who have done their fair share to hurt people: the sad truth is they probably genuinely do not comprehend the hurt they've caused, precisely *because* they're a safe distance from the practical effects of their work. They just sit far away, calling the shots, looking at numbers in a ledger, not realizing the stories *behind* those numbers. It's an irony and a conundrum where such individuals are simultaneously capable of incredible evils precisely because of that disconnect, but if confronted with that fact and forced to face the truth, they might not be horrible people at all and might prove extremely remorseful in the face of it all. Strauss simply seems confused and saddened, not even properly understanding why he deserves this, and hurt that someone feels that way. Arthur's right to act the way he did, but there's still a tragedy that Strauss did not learn the lessons Arthur did. Perhaps the better solution would've been to bring Strauss to face some of those targets, let him see the problem for himself, and that'll test what kind of a man he is.

So Strauss pretty much was demanding people’s dept even though they had nothing left and no money

@racecardoge3318

2 жыл бұрын

They have no money because they spent all the money Strauss loaned them

@m1garand164

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, he would lend money to vulnerable or compulsive ppl who clearly couldn’t pay back the money right away, or at all, and he would send Arthur to collect after a very short time, not giving these ppl nearly enough time to pay it back. But regardless, I don’t think Arthur is deluded enough to think he’s any better than Strauss, he just thinks Strauss’s business model is cowardly and especially sadistic.

@DrillEntertainmentNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

typical loan shark

@rockyball9977

2 жыл бұрын

@@m1garand164 he didnt lend it to compulsive people if you listen for shit you can hear why they took money from strauss almost all of the debts where brought on by needing money to keep families afloat

@seanfury6396

2 жыл бұрын

If you antagonize Strauss right at the beginning of the game, Arthur will say “You disgust me, you little maggot,” or something to that effect. Arthur NEVER liked Strauss.

You can see the pain in Arthur’s eyes when he saw that guys wife pregnant. See them try to run away from the army. Starting a new life. Realized he fucked up. He’s so hard on himself when someone complements him for being nice and kind. Truly an emotional scene. Red dead 2 is one of my top 3 best story games of all time. It’s moments like these that make it the best. Like a movie. Something you read in a book. Something you’ll never forget. And will stick with you forever.

@connormays4038

2 жыл бұрын

Also it was illegal for “civilized people” to be with native Americans

@j-dawg4774

2 жыл бұрын

It's a shame I didn't get the full experience after getting spoilers I tried to block out of my mind from my KZread recommended, and the ending still brought a year to my eye. Also, what would be the other two best story games?

@wingsofblackedbrandy4798

2 жыл бұрын

@@j-dawg4774 the other two are personal. Red dead 2 is arguably the best game ever made as far as game play. Story and attention to detail.

@jimmybags6598

2 жыл бұрын

I just can't do it, I can't TAKE this shit no more man.

@flowersinawasteland

Жыл бұрын

he probably saw himself and mary in the couple. who also wanted to run away.

this makes me so sad, arthur really tried to be good. The fact that he was so kind to these people melts my heart, he deserved the world and more

Through all the pain and tragedy that Arthur has been through in his life, he still has a heart of pure kindness. He doesn't like to show it but he can't help but to do the right thing for everybody. Truly well done character development

The writing is unbelievable. They know how to break down the toughest men.

I like how the developers gave you so much money by the end that a few hundred dollars doesn't mean anything giving players both the incentive not to take the debts and make you realize that Dutch's greed was too much and you already have enough money to run and start a new life with for the whole gang.

@deadasfboi

2 жыл бұрын

I got $10,000 with High honor, and just saved Sean from Blackwater recently. It really shows money doesn't mean anything when you're the Outlaw. Even if you had all the money in the world, Civilization is going to be consuming everyone out there, including Outlaws, Dead, or alive.

@Rinrin-ms3lp

Жыл бұрын

Yeah someone telling me about money glitch and then i say the money from mission is more than enough, hell i still have $3000+ when Arthur died

@poonaford9788

Жыл бұрын

I was broke in chapter 6

@shawnthompson2303

Жыл бұрын

"You give me this boat, $10,000 and safe passage down the Lanahachee, I'll let you live." .... Wtf. Dutch. I HAVE. TEN. THOUSAND. DOLLARS.

I think Guarma plays A big role In his TB When We go through the gloria's caves Arthur starts to cough blood and turn purple Means Arthur's TB got Severe in the caves

@alexcasares7401

2 жыл бұрын

You know is really funny is that I thought Arthur got sick in Chapter 5 instead of getting coughed by Downes

@luke8957

2 жыл бұрын

The building they set off with the sugar is where I pinpointed it, I guess that sugary air was really bad for his lungs w TB

“The Sick Delude Themselves” well seeing Arthur as he was, the sick brings out the better in people and makes them see the world and try to makes it better in any way they can.

0:32 "This ain't the best time sir" "My dog stepped on a bee" Same energy 🤣

4:15 he remembered his family his son and wife when seeing the boy with his father’s name arthur Rstar did that to show some memories of him in the past💔

It was for his own good. Arthur was hoping that it he left he could have made a better life for himself plus if he stayed Dutch would have killed him in the shootout later on

@zombiestonerman8119

2 жыл бұрын

between the last chapter and the epilogue, Strauss gets tortured to death by pinkertons sooooo

@G4MER28

2 жыл бұрын

....why would Dutch have killed Straus of all people? Straus would have very likely taken Dutchs side.

@AnnihilateUTM

2 жыл бұрын

@@G4MER28 because strauss was no use to anyone, he wasnt good with guns or robbing like everyone else in the gang. Dutch wouldve looked at Strauss as a liability after the gang fell apart and wouldnt have kept him around.

@ozero00rockon

2 жыл бұрын

@@zombiestonerman8119 He never ratted on anyone though. That was what made Strauss likable. He didn’t do dirty work like Arthur or Micah but he made his dues. Even kept to his loyalty to the gang. Although I suppose like one of the comments here, he was more of a liability.

He's no angel, but he's certainly not a devil either.

My first playthrough, I had a natural "i dont care ill do what I want" attitude, I barely did these missions but I knew Strauss was slimy. Going through this game again with a "outlaw trying to do right" good karma style, this scene made me far more emotional. I couldn't help crying when Arthur said, "im sorry, ma'am", but I was even more PISSED when I got back to Strauss. This game is truly an accomplishment in narrative and story telling

He wasn’t good but at the end he didn’t rat you out Like Micah even died I’m pretty sure keeping his mouth closed and sealed

@connormays4038

2 жыл бұрын

There is a possibility Abigail is the rat because she was able to get away from the bank robbery in saint denis and John was the only one took alive during that robbery and she also had the key to dutches chest with all the money

@saulgoodmansfingerr8527

2 жыл бұрын

@@connormays4038 it wasn't confirmed like Micah's betrayal but its still something to think about...

love how arthur can switch up his attitude so quickly depending on your actions

Even with all the shit that went down in the game the truth of the matter is, is Strauss was actually the villain of the story which ultimately lead to aurthur's Demise. Even Micah wouldn't have gotten away with killing aurthur because aurthur would've stomped his ass otherwise.

@cro0k300

Жыл бұрын

He wasn’t, Arthur was the villain. He had the choice to refuse to beat and threaten Mr. Downes, it was his own cruelty that killed him. The ending was his redemption, his rebirth in a way

@uuuu-h3m

Жыл бұрын

Bullshit

the low weak “ Im sorry ma’am…. i really am” shows how remorseful he is yet in such a small amount of words

But why drop Strauss his bag outside the camp when he leave? Because murfree brood or something else? Most likely miss this detail..

@SeverjanBoss

3 жыл бұрын

Arthur didn’t care about what happens next to Strauss after he kicked him out. And the Pinkertons caught Strauss and tried to get any information out of him by beating him and he never said a thing to them and then he died. You can hear this from a conversation Charles gives John in the epilogue. Subscribe 🤠👍

@stephanpurstner2698

3 жыл бұрын

@@SeverjanBoss I have seen that in a video.. but do you think the pinkertons caught him right after he was kicked out? I immediately rode after him (actually I wanted to try to kill that asshole) you can follow him to the first intersection. I didn't make it any further ... then he disappeared🤔 Please excuse me if I have spelling mistakes my English is not so good I think ✌️🇦🇹

@SeverjanBoss

3 жыл бұрын

I think they caught him after they caught Abigail but I’m not sure

@itsDelfi

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephanpurstner2698 cool english, thanks for the data

@john-jimMilton13

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephanpurstner2698 didn't notice English wasn't your first language?

If only our society would kick out the money lenders....everyone would be free, not debtors and would not have all of their wealth stolen through taxation to foreign bankers

@YoutubeIsRetarded689

2 жыл бұрын

Taxes and loans are two entirely different things, Loans are asked for, taxes are taken.

@xandercrews4729

2 жыл бұрын

@ CobraDove tell me you don’t understand $ without telling me you don’t understand $.

Arthur saying "I'm sorry ma'am, I really am" breaks me idk why

did you guys notice that if you dont confront strauss then when you are playing as jhon and trying tofind charles, charles will say that strauss was captured and tortured and in you confront him nothing will happen

Strauss is exactly why Arthur got TB in the first place

the way Strauss picks up the money and walks away shows how much of a cold person is.

so in sumary strauss is a lone sharker who gives mony to poor but then demands more mony and if debt not paid he sends arthur to beat up or even kill the people

@ronarprefect7709

2 жыл бұрын

"loan shark"--yes.

Wow. Just wow is the word to describe the game.

Id like to think Arthur did it so strauss would be safe outta thr gang. Because its hypocritical for arthur to beat and murder people on the gangs time but strauss is the evil one. Hes no better or worse

@fynnla.e

2 жыл бұрын

Canonically Arthur doesn’t kill innocent people. Herr Strauss was praying on those who couldn’t afford to pay him back, and they were working themselves to the grave to pay him back. Arthur has morals, as twisted as they may be. He doesn’t think he’s any better, but he knows that Strauss is especially nasty work.

@HyperspaceCafe

2 жыл бұрын

Arthur wasn't evil. He was like all of us a good person that made all the wrong decisions time and time again, and he always felt regret. So when he could help, honestly help someone I think I always did and would.

@readingdistraction9204

2 жыл бұрын

@@fynnla.e He killed tons of innocent cops.. They weren't all COMPLETELY innocent but still

God I love the dark and rainy in this game

You're all right, it's an ugly business. However don't let it slip that all these people made a choice by borrowing the money. They were taking a chance in life. They took a shot and missed.

@tigerrclaw3772

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is that the moneylending business was not something the gang was supposed to be doing in the first place. In the first part of the game, Arthur voiced his disdain toward the type of work when Dutch asked him to help Strauss collect debt. This is because Arthur knew that they’ll be robbing the desperate whereas the gang was suppose to rob only the rich and powerful. This is further reinforced when in camp, John said “We used to give away the money we robbed”. Signalling that the gang used to be some sort of Robin Hood thing

@thisaintitchief7748

2 жыл бұрын

While that‘s true Strauss was choosing to give loans to people who he knew would struggle to pay it back or did you ever easily get a loan back without having to threaten someone

Arthur left his family with debts, he's the one who should be ashamed, not Arthur.

@XOPOIIIO

2 жыл бұрын

@Totally not some trap Arthur, the guy how took the debt and died peacefully, leaving his wife to pay it.

@ilikesteak2666

2 жыл бұрын

@@XOPOIIIO arthur didnt take debt , and he didnt die peacefully either Elisa and isaac werent killed because arthur took debt and collectors came for them , they robbed them

@SilentExile729

2 жыл бұрын

@@ilikesteak2666 The character in the mission, Arthur Londonderry, that took a loan leading to his early death and leaving his debt for his family. Not Arthur Morgan, the main character.

so weird how I didnt use dead eye nearly as much as much players did

The high Honor play through is the only real play through everyone should do the honorable way the first time playing

the sadness in arthurs eyes just made me cry

Playing the last debt in the rain makes the scene much more heartbreaking

If Arthur survived with John I bet he'd try to repay his dept that everyone he's caused harm and maybe even go to church... And fall in love with Sadie Adler and retiring from being a theif... So you'd still play as john

@maxthefloofball9531

2 жыл бұрын

But possibly still in touch with john

@maxthefloofball9531

2 жыл бұрын

Reason why I say church cuz there is this mission where you help this preist free slaves and later do more missions for them

@maxthefloofball9531

2 жыл бұрын

He calls one of the nuns sister at one part of the story mode if you get far enought but you gotta meet her

@SeverjanBoss

2 жыл бұрын

People normally call nuns sister and priests brother

@maxthefloofball9531

2 жыл бұрын

@@SeverjanBoss I know that's why I mentioned it

In both situations, he saw his past. Arthur brought up his son and his son’s mother in a conversation with Rains Falls and Arthur mentioned that both of them died as a result of a home robbery. When collecting the debt from J. John Weathers, he saw that both Weathers and his pregnant wife would be in trouble if he didn’t help them. As for the other Arthur, I can only assume that our Arthur saw his son and the mother of his son, seeing that other Arthur died

Even tho Strauss is kind of a snake I’ve always liked him and took Arthur kicking him out of camp as half bc of the debts and half bc of the gang falling apart (wanting him to get to safety) But considering all the cut content I wonder if any members of the gang originally had different deaths? Someone totally innocent like Mary Beth or someone not so innocent but still undeserving like Strauss, I would’ve liked to see the gang lose a member to one of these more violent gangs (night folk, Murfrees) like when the skinners took uncle except someone actually dies. I feel like it could have been an emotional scene. And using the night folk would give them a mission in the game. I know it has nothing to do with the video but I think Strauss would have been a perfect contender for this role

Strauss ended up being picked up by the Pinkertons and tortured to death but gave up no information on the gang

what's crazy is after the one before you kick LS out of camp I decided I wasn't doing anything else from him an continued the story without going back to him an I think missed kicking him out

@kakodun

2 жыл бұрын

saaame, i got tired of collecting debts for him because i knew those people didn't deserve the shit they got for not paying back the loans

Mrs londonderry = the girl arthur loved the kid there =Arthur's son Isaac and arthur londonderry arthur himself the fact that londonderry also died

Stranger: you didn’t immediately rob and murder me, sir, and for that I thank y- Arthur: I JUST TOSSED EIGHT STICKS OF DYNAMITE INTO A WAGON CARRYING NUNS STAY AWAY FROM ME I AM A SOCIOPATHIC LUNATIC WHO DOESN'T DESERVE HAIR LOVE OR FOOD LIKE CAILLOU

Strauss:Im... Arthur:Leaving.

Now i see why i never saw this i forget the miner guys debt

I felt bad the first time I did it then I realized he is the one that caused most of Arthur’s death

After helping Snow Goose, my horse walked right into the burning wagon and died.

Yall can say whatever you like about Strauss but I kinda like him personally. Of course he isn't a decent man but he's a businessman and most of them aren't decent. I kinda felt bad after Arthur kicked him out , Knowing Strauss's backstory and finding out he died in the Pinkerton's custody and never ratted out makes it even sadder.

I always thought this was pretty hypocritical of Arthur.

@psiw0lf718

2 жыл бұрын

he lent money to poor people and sent arthur to beat them up if he didn’t get it back, strauss deserved what he got, and he’s very lucky that arthur didn’t beat the shit out of him or even kill him

@mattnick23

2 жыл бұрын

strauss didn’t have to lend the money to people who he Knew would never pay it back

The game practically screams the reason at you i doubt anyone needed to be told

Arthur 👑🥺

The difference between money lending and being an outlaw An outlaw will take whatever you currently have, a money lender will take everything you will ever have until it’s paid off.

At least, the most honorable thing that Strauss did after he was kicked out by Arthur was keeping his mouth shut when Ross and his men found him and had him beat up to death in the question room a few years later. I truly think he was reflected by Arthur's words about how sick his debt payments were to those decent folks. And to make it up for his wrong doings, He literally didn't tell Ross the whereabouts of the remaining survivors of the group to help prolong their respective living out of the outlaw lifestyle. John actually complimented about Strauss' surprising, honorable action for them after he heard Strauss' fate from Charles during the Epilogue.

I kike how arthur isnt subtle about it. When after almost 5 years of playing game, its good to know strauss died in custody.

The rest of the camp: Geez Arthur, you were too mean on Herr Strauss. Meanwhile Arthur who's dying literally because of Strauss schemes: 👁️ 👄👁️

The widow and the son scene hit diff In The rain

Susan's reaction

im ashamed i didnt see this, i despised this task, its just riding around randomly taking money and feeling guilty

Strauss should’ve been kicked out a long time ago; I know the gang as a whole were raising hell across 5 states but there’s a difference between robbing banks and mobsters and other gangs and loansharking the poor and disadvantaged. Just look at the type of people Strauss lent money to; poor and sick farmers, single mothers, poor families, a man who left the army due to his conscientious objections and to take care of his Native American wife and child. You notice you don’t see any businessman or rich railway magnates he targeted. Just people who were born into poverty and tried their best to keep their heads above water, which is what led them to Strauss in the first place. You can’t justify the evil shit Strauss did which is why Arthur kicked his ass out of camp near the end, when he was searching for redemption. Also Strauss got off lucky; there was a special way people used to handle his types; meaning loansharks and lenders who preyed on poor and working class but I won’t say what that way entailed.

@forbiddenusername9931

2 жыл бұрын

Business is business though. Why lend money to those who don’t need it (aka anyone but the people Strauss lent to.)

@ronarprefect7709

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Strauss was evil. The whole gang were evil. They killed people all the time that hadn't earned it, or conned people out of their life savings, leading many to kill themselves in despair. Truth is, we are ALL evil and have earned death as "the wages of sin is death". We don't think we are that bad because we compare ourselves to other evil humans and say, "At least I'm not as bad as that guy over there" when we should compare ourselves to the true standard put forth by God. When we do, and realize we have never kept God 's standards, but have earned death, it is meant to be a "schoolmaster" to bring us to Christ in faith and repentance so that His righteousness can be imputed to us and our sin can be put on Him. That is the only way to avoid the death we have earned.

@AxiiBoss

2 жыл бұрын

@@ronarprefect7709 Amen

@rosenti

2 жыл бұрын

So you will go through all that effort in getting our interest. Writing a top notch essay. But then you won't tell us what it entailed? I think you don't know what it entails and better leaving it there than guessing based on assumption. That said; I doubt Christ's powers will do much for you if you're "Strauss". Please for the love of your own god, keep such unrelated themes out of the subject at hand. Ugh... It's so distasteful to bring Christ into debating a world that isn't his.

@facundomontivero2299

2 жыл бұрын

He only targeted poor people because those ones are the only ones that would take a loan. Why would the rich need a loan? And I don't know if I would say that Strauss "got off easy". After Arthur kicked him out of camp, the Pinkertons caught him and tortured him to death trying to get him to rat out the gang.

I almost cried in this mission.

@RexoLeon

Жыл бұрын

I shed a tear 😢

I didn't wanna do it

A mans dead, and youre laughing?

I think Strauss was made to represent the rich and evil men behind the courtines on the real life, people who slave poor and desperate people with modern slavery jobs. He's a fancy and rich man taking advantage on poor people. This game focuses on these social issues from the real world like no other.

@xandercrews4729

2 жыл бұрын

He’s not rich, if he were rich he wouldn’t be in the gang

@mundobostal8530

2 жыл бұрын

@@xandercrews4729 Why not? The gang is perfect for him, outlaws who do pretty much the same he does and yet protect him.

If you think about it, Strauss killed Arthur.

@Warriorsoul101

2 жыл бұрын

Autism

Who else shot the miner. Simply because you didn't like his attitude

man i rushed rdr2 so i never did the side missions and now i regret it hard

I like how at the day no one was sleeping when his getting strauss bag But when on the night u can actually see there are characters are sleeping and was woke up and make way THE AMOUNT OF DETAIL FUCK SAKE It makes the each cutscenes so realistic

Wtf how is ur aim so good

@SeverjanBoss

2 жыл бұрын

😂 Thanks

@feitopuns

2 жыл бұрын

experience of the game the longer you play the more good you get

@moustachecashstash9006

2 жыл бұрын

If you want to improve your aim (I'm assuming you mean one shot kills) then just lock on by aiming and pull up a bit. Headshots for days

@john-jimMilton13

2 жыл бұрын

@@moustachecashstash9006 been like that since San Andreas days

I thought he kicked him out mainly because he exposed him to Covid I meant tuberculosis

I think one of the main reasons strauss was kicked out of camp was that arthur blamed him for tuberculosis

@ishatters

Жыл бұрын

legit like Arthur would still be alive if it wasn't for strauss being a scumbag

Boi you gonna need some jolly jack's the way you use deadeye geez

Strauss is literally the reason why Arthur was diagnosed with tb in the first place

Struass is the reason aurthor got turboculocus

Reason why he kicked him out is because strass is giving money to desperate people

im surprised strauss never got attacked by the murfrees

@SeverjanBoss

Жыл бұрын

Probably because by that part of the story, the pinkertons took over all of east new hanover and scared them off.

I honestly getting mighty tired of people piling on Strauss. Unless I missed some key detail, the player is never told any of the actual details of the contracts. Yes Strauss lends money to sick and destitute, but who else would he lend money to, Bronte ? The Mayor of Saint Denis ? Rich people did not need loans and if they did they took them from banks not outlaw gangs, meanwhile these poor and sick people probably had no other choice than Strauss. The game devs try to make you feel all bad and sorry for them during the quests, but they do piss poor job at it. ''The poor need loans and they are sick, please feel bad : _( '' And its even more ridiculous when there are a lot of actual emotional moments in the game which is 100% proof that Rockstar just made the debt collection missions shit on purpose, or they were added in/changed at last minute. But I'm willing to eat my own words here, if there was some document showing exactly how unreasonable Strauss's loan agreements were that I missed, then we can talk about necking the man. But if no details of these contracts exist, its just business and nothing else, if they didn't pay up on time its on them, I doubt Strauss organized the downfall of all these people just so they have to lend money from him.

@MakingVidsBreh

2 жыл бұрын

Only reasonable assessment of the situation to be had.

@lawliet8396

2 жыл бұрын

They were never supposed to lend money to desperate people, they were only supposed to steal from rich. Yes Rockstar made this intentional but with a meaning behind it. It's gangs fault for falling into this sort of bussiness so yeah, Strauss is at fault but probably only for listening to Dutch more than for giving money to desperate people because it was never going to end well.

@Tomimi570

2 жыл бұрын

They all thought it was a long-term situation that's why they caved in and took the loan. They never expected a tough cowboy to knock on their doors, beat them up and ask for the money back so soon. Imagine taking a car-loan from a bank and you have 5 years to pay for it and suddenly the bank decided you need to pay in full after 2 years or they'll shoot your kneecaps. That's the situation here.

@Flustershy

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tomimi570 Nice story... How about you back it up with facts from the game. Like I said previously, I personally did not find a single piece of evidence that shows. A. That Strauss shortened the deadline on the debts B. That Strauss had any hand in the downfall of the people in debt. C. That Strauss never promised that the collection will be non violent. So yeah, like I said, if I'm wrong, I'm willing to edit my comment and support the negative view on Strauss. But if no such document exist, I have absolutely no issues with Strauss.

@john-jimMilton13

2 жыл бұрын

@@Flustershy except his beady eyes and vulture like face

That would of been great if he coughed on him like grabbed him by the shirt and shook him causing excursion to cough then you find out as John or in the paper or even see a funeral oh Strauss dead or see him in the street begging and then dies and him saying he got tb because wasn't for him Arthur wouldn't of died so Strauss killed arthur

I thought he was talking about Strauss Zelnick

Should of done since chapter 2

you know I never understood why he was kicked out, now I understand he was a pretty shitty person praying on good people in a pinch

As if we didn't already know?

@SeverjanBoss

2 жыл бұрын

Ok bill calm down. We wouldn’t want another war anytime soon again do we?

@illbehim

2 жыл бұрын

@@SeverjanBoss At least I got the oil man, Bush didn't lol

Funny Susan and pearson move out of the way at night

5:30 damn really sad

I didnt get that cutscene of Strauss being thrown out cuz i never went for the money after i learned that the man died and only his wife was left...

I'm curious did you have high or low honor

@SeverjanBoss

3 жыл бұрын

High honor

@CustodialRuby58

3 жыл бұрын

@@SeverjanBoss interesting at the very beginning of the video the way that he acted those people I don't remember him acting like that but then again it's been like a year and a half since I did that mission by the way great video I really did enjoy it

@SeverjanBoss

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I really appreciate it :) subscribe for more 🤠

@CustodialRuby58

3 жыл бұрын

@@SeverjanBoss gladly ☺️

What a stupid reason to kick Strauss, they literally could have not borrowed They act like people owe them something

It can be two reasons actually

When I did this mission some of the women in the gang thought Arthur was going to kick them out too in this game

Everyone in the camp was working to get money and leave they’re life and start from zero … for me was just really bad scene when Arthur did this to Strauss .. no one was doing money was just Arthur Strauss billy Micah Lenny .. Just listen carefully all dialogues , all people that requested the money from Strauss was not the first time they ask and they were not thinking on paying So for me the conclusion of this : You cannot clean your mistakes making other person responsible for them . It’s a lack of sense doing that does it feel you a better person after all ? Nahhh

Am I the only one who “gets rid” of the foreman

@SeverjanBoss

2 жыл бұрын

Or you could leave him alive and have Arthur beat him up in this mission 🤩 kzread.info/dash/bejne/louZ0bqHireZacY.html

I hope Strauss appears in the game again

@SeverjanBoss

2 жыл бұрын

In the epilogue, Charles tells john thats the pinkertons picked Strauss up a short while after he got kicked out and beat him up to get information out of him. Strauss never said a word and died in the pinkertons custody.

@jesseandrews2303

2 жыл бұрын

@@SeverjanBoss I always felt bad for Strauss and if the player could make the choice I wouldn't kick him out because all he was doing was earning his keep. Saying that, before I watched your video, Playing I felt Arthur wax growing a conscience but I thought he kicked Strauss out because it was his job that caused Arthur to be infected with Tuberculosis. I'm currently as John after Arthur's death but not been able to play in months. It's the single greatest video game ever. I hope R☆ eventually release RDR 3

@SeverjanBoss

2 жыл бұрын

I really recommend that you find the time to complete the epilogue. The epilouge has two parts, 1 & 2. At the end of the epilogue there is a surprise. I hope you have fun and enjoy the games end. Subscribe 🤠👍

@jesseandrews2303

2 жыл бұрын

@@SeverjanBoss Definately my friend and soon I'll have my xbox one back. RDR2 was the only game I played for over 2 years. That's how long it took me to complete Arthur's life in the game. I'll be playing again soon

Rip Arthur

For pedal loans to sick & even worthy & taking advantage of the sick & poor.

I feel like this is pretty self explanatory.

@SeverjanBoss

2 жыл бұрын

You would be surprised by how many people it isn’t

I loved Strauss, I really don’t like the fact that they kicked him out of the gang

@rockyball9977

2 жыл бұрын

Well i didnt really like having to beat innocent men for their families money

@filmaru8556

2 жыл бұрын

It was for his own good. Arthur was hoping that it he left he could have made a better life for himself plus if he stayed Dutch would have killed him in the shootout later on

@blackflamefegari5756

2 жыл бұрын

@@rockyball9977 unlike when we did it during the train Robbery or bank heist?

@bennylolo

2 жыл бұрын

So you enjoy the German Con giving money out to desperate people and having Arthur go out and beat them nearly to death? Rather heartless.

I still don't no why arthur kicked him out

@SeverjanBoss

Жыл бұрын

Because Strauss was lending money to needy people who had little to no money to pay back and ruining families by threatening the husbands into killing themselves to work for the money back.