Just happened on this "The Volvo Guy". Without question this man is very good, no actually he's excellent, and knows what he's talking about. We have a 2016 Volvo xc60 T6 with very severe now oil loss. First showed up as a digital read ( no dipstick designed with this car) to add a quart of oil. We're good about a 3k oil change. Seemed strange. This is my 8th Volvo going back to that very sweet '72 164E model. I kept track mile wise with the trip meter and around 1000 miles it came on again. That was several months ago. Now it happens at 500 miles. Time to do something. I've heard from some mechanics the oil ring most likely is the culprit. The service manager at our local Volvo dealership told me Volvo had a 100k warranty for oil consumption. They knew there was an oil consumption problem. We did not. We bought ours at about 85k. No mention of that potential problem at the closing. Maybe in the fine print. We missed it. The service guy also said if done now at 127k miles they would replace just the rings. You can assume they put the same original rings back on to last for who knows how long. Price tag of $7-8k. Seems crazy high. Labor to replace rings is 20 hrs. or so x $159.00 The rest is parts. Aside from rings he didn't say. Doesn't add up. My local mechanic is at $70 per hr. I asked the service manager about "the book" that says a job for a certain rig should take x hrs. I believe he told me a website call "all data" maybe? Someone out there confirm that? Anyway, glad I came across Mr. Volvo Guy. He is the man!

This is definitely the most useful video I've seen in the past 5 years on youtube. My V40 2.0 VEA burn 4 oil liters every 15000km and now I know why... And I realize also why a higher grade oil is not solving the issue... Because the tiny holes are draining less oil with a less fluid oil... THANK YOU

@reds7005

Ай бұрын

VAG TSI also have this type of rings, and use 5- 40 . Low viscosity =low fuel economy and low protection

@reds7005

Ай бұрын

Problems is : 1) construction of pistons & ring 2) long interval of oil change 3) quality of syntetic oil products, mostly of them give shlam and carbon at high temperatures 4) oli chamge without using special cleaning products, like bg109 for cleaning rings

@reds7005

Ай бұрын

And no problems with hihg viscosity

@reds7005

Ай бұрын

Also a radiators and colling system, intake & fuel system needs to regular service of cleaning

@reds7005

Ай бұрын

Today we work with Volvo 2.0t. Cleaning and decorbanization with special products. Cleaning combustion chambers, pistons, ring, oil system, fuel etc. No more oil nam nam😊

My 2015 Volvo V60 T5 is burning almost 2 quarts every 5000 km or 3000 miles. Engine has 130K km or 80K miles on it. Very disappointing. Thx for your explanation, most helpful.

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

No problem

THANKS!... now it's all clear to me!. I have an XC90 2014, and it work PERFECTLY, but burns oil VERY FAST, with NO WHITE SMOKE, or smell, or LACK OF RESPONSE... it just does!.

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

This Volvo has the better pistons and rings, take on the high way and bring it to a lower gear and to get rpms higher and clean the rings out.

Coming back here to provide update: Volvo dealership completed the oil consumption test on my 2013 Volvo S60 T5 with 77,000 miles today. Burning 6x what Volvo considers acceptable -- Volvo "normal" is 0.27 quarts/1,000 miles and my car consumes 1.75 quarts/1,000 miles. Volvo knows 2013s have this problem, but still are only publicly covering 8 years and 100K miles. My car has 77K so that's fine, had we not had a pandemic, would have likely found out this problem a couple of years earlier -- crazy, Volvo needs to be forthcoming. So dealership is now submitting paperwork to Volvo Corp (4 piston rings) for hopefully goodwill coverage of their known problem. Thank you @TheVolvoGuy for your clear explanation of the piston ring design problem

@ruthellen6948

Жыл бұрын

will come back with update re. goodwill or no goodwill when I know

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome. Good luck

@ruthellen6948

Жыл бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuy and everyone else on this very helpful board: Dealership just called, Volvo is goodwilling the repairs, they said they are doing a lot of these repairs and earliest they have an opening is mid August

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

@@ruthellen6948 that amazing they are covering the repairs.

Thank you for the thorough explanation. It totally makes sense. I bought a 2016 XC60 T6 with the 2.0L engine. Got it in 2021 with ~50k miles. Changed the oil at 51k (fully synthetic Mobil 1 Extended Protection). I checked oil levels every thousand miles and all was fine until two months ago (57.000 miles), when the warning message came on, saying to add one quart of oil. It burns 1 qt. every thousand miles ever since.

@TheVolvoGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah try some high way driving with high RPMs that might help free things up.

@klr142

Жыл бұрын

Try changing the oil more regularly, every 5k miles. As the oil gets older, it starts breaking down and the additive package breaks down as well. Even though you add a quart of oil, the additive package of the older oil is reduced and it disappears faster.

@ceylontea5877

Жыл бұрын

Change your oil at 6k miles

My 2016 XC90 T6 started burning a quart of oil a month, about 1000 miles and have been told by Volvo that my experience was not as bad as it could be. Luckily, I bought this CPO vehicle with a warranty that expires in Oct. 2022 and will use this info with the dealership to have the pistons and rings replaced - under warranty. Thank you very much for this great information!

@TheVolvoGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Yes of course, if you think about it 1 qt every 1000 miles that is 10 qts of oil loss every oil change since volvo says to change the oil every 10000 miles, the engine only holds 6.25qts of oil.

Your quite right in what you say, however there's another element at work that can push oil consumption to alarming levels in Volvo Diesel engines of a certain age. Infact the same issue also affected the Ford 2.2 diesel and Landrover engines built between 2005 - 2010. This was because they were all fitted with the Ford2004 High Pressure Loop EGR. Under certain conditions, an HPL EGR System can generate a vaccum between the throttle module and inlet manifold through a process called 'diesel throttling.' With failed oil scrapper rings, this vaccum is able to suck the oil out of the sump. When gas flow through the DPF is restricted, it pushes up exhaust manifold pressure. This creates the need for a greater degree of throttling on the inlet side to achieve the desired pressure drop across the EGR. Burned oil creates significantly more ash which in turn restricts the DPF, and as oil consumption is now linked to the pressure drop across the filter, it increases at an accelerated rate. I tested this on my own V70 D5 and with a low pressure drop across the DPF, the engine would consume approximately 1 - 1.5ltr of oil per 1,000 miles. However, over time oil consumption became far worse until with a heavily restricted DPF, it was consuming 12 - 15 litres of 5w30 A5/B5 every 1,000 miles. With the DPF cleaned, consumption dropped back to 1 - 1.5 ltr/1,000 miles.

@UddinProductionz

2 жыл бұрын

So you just need to clean the dpf?

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

Good to know thanks.

@TheMrjedy

Жыл бұрын

I have 2007 xc70 d5 and also burns aprox. 1 lt per 1,5k kms

I used to have to add a quart half way between oil changes but it wasn’t leaking and it wasn’t smoking. I started using top shelf Redline oil and now I go 7,000 miles and my oil levels never change for the duration of its life between changes. I know some Volvo’s have this piston problem but I imagine a lot of people complaining of oil loss are just using cheap engine oil.

@TheVolvoGuy

4 жыл бұрын

The only volvos I deal with are volvo maintained by the dealer. But you are right cheap oil and drive style does make a difference

@eggfueggfuu748

18 күн бұрын

What year an model do you have?

Thank you for this video! My mother mentioned she was burning a quart of oil every 1k miles and I realized she has the 2016 XC 90 which is notoriously known for this issue. In the past, my mother mentioned burning excessive oil to the dealer and they said it's okay and just changed the oil. Long story short, I called the dealer and explained the history of burning excessive oil and how they haven't solved the issue and I said when I bring in the car I don't want the oil changed. But rather, I need the updated piston rings that are on the 2017+ XC 90s. I said if you can't do this under goodwill, I am contacting Volvo North America and creating a case with them.

@TheVolvoGuy

3 жыл бұрын

Yes and they should fix it by replacing the pistons and the piston rings.

@axelforsgren563

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuy I am so frustrated. I told the dealer that my problem is my rings and pistons and they keep telling me it could be something else. The car has already been in once and they just added additional oil. In order for them to change the pistons/rings under goodwill, I need to bring it in with the oil light on-again/run an oil diagnostics. If I bring it in without the light on, they will assume everything is okay. This will increase the probability of Volvo North America to step in. The car is 10K miles away from 100K so I need this issue figured out before it depreciates in value even more. I believe my local Volvo dealer is sketchy and unethical. They told my mother to add oil to her XC 90 rather than them doing it themselves. By my mother adding her own oil, there is no "history" in their computers. I believe they told my mother this as a technique so they don't have to fix the issue along with Volvo North America not being able to see the "history." I don't know what to do at this point. Lawyer? Thoughts? Thank you in advance.

@TheVolvoGuy

3 жыл бұрын

@@axelforsgren563 I would raise the problem to Volvo of North America. Because when I worked at the dealership Volvo specifically told us to tell the volvo owners NOT TO ADD ANY OIL. if the light comes back on to contact the dealership. So that is what I would do.

@axelforsgren563

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuy It's interesting you say that and further goes to prove my point. Yes, I called Volvo of North America but they need a "diagnostics" first. How can I obtain a diagnostics if they are biased and won't give the proper oil diagnostics?

@TheVolvoGuy

3 жыл бұрын

@@axelforsgren563 you would have to wait until the oil light comes back on it will after 4k miles or less

We recently had to replace the pistons in our 2015.5 V60CC with the 5-cylinder turbo due to high consumption (we almost ran out of oil on a 1000-mile trip through NM, which highlighted the issue). Volvo had sent a warranty extension notice on this problem earlier that year, and I happened to remember it. The dealer replaced the pistons for free after a two-stage oil consumption test. We had to replace other parts, such as spark plugs, at our own cost. About a month after the repair, the VVT solenoids started failing. I'm unsure if that's related to the piston replacement, but it's currently in the shop getting that addressed.

Thanks for showing this. NO ONE could tell me why I'm using so much oil between changes in my 2013 xc60

@MrDaveonthefly

5 ай бұрын

UPDATE: I've added 2 bottles of AUTO RX each time to back to back oil changes. I was honestly using 4 quarts of oil between changes and now it's less than a quart. At 165k miles, I can live with that and do two more things: Change my synthetic oil at 3k miles and repeat the AUTO RX additive in about 6 months then once per year. Poor engineering on their part.

I currently drive a 2015 Volvo S60 T5 and I go through engine oil fairly quick compared to other vehicles. This most likely is the reason why. Even with a fresh oil change and filter, I will have to top off with a quart of oil after 2,000 miles. Great explanation!

@toyaa2634

3 жыл бұрын

I have to do the same thing! Are you having an oil issue to? I just paid Volvo 1400 to get this fixed. Apparently there is a lawsuit going on about this issue.

@JezRafz

3 жыл бұрын

@@toyaa2634 Yes, I have a severe oil issue. I get a fresh oil change including filter, I will get a “ Engine oil low “ message on my dash after two months. Absolutely ridiculous. I am currently thinking about a new car because this issue could be deeply internal with the engine and I simply do not have the funds at this time. I do not know anything about a lawsuit, but would be awesome if there was a recall on this issue. I don’t want to lose my Volvo, but if I must, I shall.

@chadr00

3 жыл бұрын

2015 xc60 t5 with 130k miles drinks a quart between 500 and 1000 miles. Guess I'll be digging into the engine to replace pistons and rings one day.

@ienjoyeatingcheese

Жыл бұрын

2015 V60 T5 - same issue. Glad there is a fix at least. Love the car, don't want to part with it yet!

@alfonsomadrigalelizondo5077

Жыл бұрын

i drive an XC90 2014, and it happens JUST LIKE WITH YOUR S60... it's a GREAT CAR (it looks like new STILL), but burns oil like CRAZY (like yours). I have to top it every 1000 miles (with 1 liter approximately). This is my 4th volvo, but its the one that burns MOST (i use it for traveling, and the weather at my home town is EXTREMELY HOT).

You just saved me from major trouble as I am in the process of a 2015 Xc70 purchase.... with all the answers contained in this video. I find myself in question as the Xc70 being out of production and a better choice model like a v90 which is out of my price point. Still seeking more knowledge before purchase. Definitely hooked on a Volvo... What do you choose and why when comes to Volvo video would be really helpful.

@TheVolvoGuy

4 жыл бұрын

I will do a video soon on that and I hope it will help.

I own a 2011 XC60 T6 with 150k km and it burns around 1.5 liters every 5000 km, which is how much I drive between oil changes. I got used to keep a jug of oil in my garage to top up the level every 1500-2000 km. I had heard something about the rings being the cause for the oil burning, now you made it very clear. Thank you for posting.

@agnesf2659

Жыл бұрын

I have a 2011 XC70 T6 Polestar in Toronto area with 344k km on it. Yeah, mote than 344k km and it still runs great. A mechanic at Volvo dealer told me to top up 1L of oil every 4k km for my car. I do need to top it up 1-2 times in maintenance intervals, otherwise dash would pop up "oil level low" warning.

Really liked the new/old piston ring examples!

The Volvo dealership has wasted so much time trying to figure out why my 2015 Volvo xc60 is burning oil. They claim my engine isn’t the type that has the same issue. Finally yesterday they said it’s the pistons and rings. Very frustrating.

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

Lol they need to find better techs

@mariagarcia4160

Жыл бұрын

I started having the same problem and they told me was my engine until I started to do the research.

@yabogunrin

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheVolvoGuy what's the Volvo part number for the new piston and ring. I'm trying to get it off FCPEURO

Great video, you really seem to know your way around Volvos. Which of the 6 cylinder T6 is less likely to have these issues - 286 or 304hp. I am on a lookout for XC60 and budget for me is not sufficient for a 2017 and newer model

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

Stay away from 4cy engines from 2015 and 2016

@inception727

Жыл бұрын

Is 2016 2.5 L 5 cylinder AWD better?

My son’s 2011 XC70 has the 3.2 non turbo and he goes through around 2.5 quarts a month. Thanks for the explanation!

@TheVolvoGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Yes that one would need new pistons and rings.

Well done VolvoGuy. My wife's 2016 XC60 T6 just started burning oil and I'm one month beyond the warranty that was extended for a defective design. A design, by the way, that's been fundamentally understood since the 19th century. Why did they use such thin oil rings? Someone said it was to reduce friction to meet CAFE standards?

Very informative video. I thought it was illegal to put parts like that in an engine. I purchased a 2015 V60 with 78k miles on it a year and a half ago. Didn't know about the oil issue until about 400 miles later. Added a quart of oil and drove it some more ( stupid engines don't have a dipstick ). 400 miles later it needed another quart. That's when I started studying up on what the problems were with the T5 Drive -e engines. Instead of adding a quart of oil I added a quart of MMO (Marvel Mystery Oil), couldn't hurt, another 400 miles I had to add another quart. This time I added a mixed quart of oil and MMO, that lasted 800 miles. I added a straight quart of oil and got over 1400 miles before needing to add oil. That's not great by any means but much better than 400. If it gets worse again and I can't get it to go over 1400 or better again I'll just put an LS 6.2L with a 8 speed auto in it and have some fun with it. I bet that a good BG flush treatment would do wonders for these engines, it's expensive at around 400 dollars just for the chemicals needed plus labor if you have to have a shop do it. That stuff will make you engine look brand new on the inside even if the engine is full of gunk.

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it's unfortunate, but I definitely I like the LS swap idea. The BG flush would help with some highway driving and would clean the rings right up.

@thatsonebadhatharry8610

Жыл бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuy The BG treatment is a stationary job, you don't want to drive it while it's in the engine. Here is a link to see how it was done on a 2010 Camaro. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z5p7j658cafZhrQ.html Oh the LS idea would be great but I don't think there is enough room for the engine in a V or S 60.

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

@Thatsonebadhatharry highway driving after the flush not during, you get the engine hot and high rpms heat helps break down carbon build ups.

@thatsonebadhatharry8610

Жыл бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuy From the looks of the video it shouldn't be necessary. It would be a lot of fun though.

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

@Thatsonebadhatharry it's really good to do once a while to keep it clean, I tend to do that once a month, and it helps. Most people never do that at all.

This is a great video; I'm glad I've found you. I've got a 1015 S60 that started consuming oil at around 80k. Has 117k on it now and I'm adding .5 to 1 quart every 2.5 weeks. My question is, if I choose to keep the car (I do love it) and live with the problem, will it worsen necessarily and will it damage the engine over time. I know there are variables and that may be difficult to answer, but figured I'd shoot my Qs your way. Again, really glad to have found your channel. Keep up the good work.

@foojub6907

Жыл бұрын

What is a 1015 s60. If you have a 5 cylinder, it should really only be oil consumption due to poor ring design (possibly PCV contribution too). If you have a 4 cylinder, it can be ring and piston design which may lead to cylinder wall scoring and eventually engine failure. Even if it’s a 5 cylinder the excessive consumption can ruin your cat. Converter. You’re out of range of their extended warranty they just posted, so your options now are new rings and pistons if 4 cyl, or new ring if 5 cyl, or run additives in a Hail Mary to reduce consumption. I’ve actually just had success reducing my consumption on ‘13 s60 T5 B5254T12 with oil flush liqui moly/BG epr… these aren’t recommended and carry risks, but when a ring job is several thousand… yeh. Anyways, reduced mine after 10k miles of flushes on a 2.5k interval, from ~1Q every 1k miles to ~.4Q. May try a berrymans piston soak too but will see

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

If it's 2015 then there is a good chance it is a 4-cylinder engine, burning that much oil is just not good for the Catalytic converter you could try some deep flush and see if that helps.

@davidmacgregor2101

Жыл бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuy Actually, no, sorry; it's a T5. Thanks.

@foojub6907

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmacgregor2101 t5 and t6 don’t match cylinders anymore, instead determining power since 2014. If you have a 4 cyl you gotta get the cylinder walls inspected for scoring before anything else.

@eggfueggfuu748

18 күн бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuydumb question do you need the cat? Are there ways around it?

The new oil scraper ring looks like something that comes from car engines 25 years ago where they was much bigger thicker rather and had bigger oil circulation holes the old cars would easily do half a million miles because the design was virtually perfect I remember building loads of old engines and they still running today and do not burn now oil whatsoever unfortunately all the new engines from all the manufacturers a complete and utter rubbish want a good car buy a 25-year old car if you can get one great video buddy you know exactly what you're talking about and I've been there many times a real professional and Greg videos 😇😇😇

Hi @TheVolvoGuy, sorry to repost. My 2015 V60 T6 is burning oil so I purchased new pistons. Trouble is, they supplied the same ones as those I removed. The oil control ring is bigger then the one you show but smaller then the new replacement you show. I'd be very interested to know the Volvo part number for the piston and rings you purchased to replace the original piston. Thank you.

So basically the replacement ring it's just like how a regular oil retention ring is on any of the Japanese engines. That's how it should have been in the first place, lol.

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

Yes

It seems that I lucked out and just missed the problem. 17 S60 t5 is not consuming oil. Thank God.

SOLVED! A trusted Workshop in North of Spain, Using the Xenum M-Flush engine cleaner additive, and doing from 1 to 5 cleanings (putting new oil with the cleaning additive and cleaning again driving 200 to 500 kms) , depending on the dirt on the engine, the car cleaned the rings and orifices and stopped the oil consumption, in 18.000 kms the car does not burned Oil. I'm doing this now on my car. It's possible to put a little 2% of additive, to new oil once cleaned, to prevent this issue.

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

Am glad this worked out for your car.

@innova2131

Жыл бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuy Thank you for showing me the cause. The alternative was to do a multi-thousand euro engine repair, changing piston rings etc, but if a 16.50 euro additive can fix this, it's a huge saving. I have a car dealership here in Spain, I have been using this cleaner for a long time at every oil change in the cars we sell, to put the new oil in the clean engine, and sometimes even the cars run smoother and with less noise. and vibrations. This additive is ester based, not solvent based, will not damage engine seals or impair lubrication even when cleaned over long miles. Now I am looking for another solution to the noise of counter-rotating balance shafts, typical of this model, and I trust that a ceramic ester additive from this same brand will help in this. All the best.

Thank you for this. I had a 2015 that had this issue. Started at about 60k and by 75k it would go through a quart every 1500. One day while Volvo was performing the oil consumption test I got a flashing check engine light and the limited performance warning for a few seconds and then it went off. Took it in and the engine was too far gone. Low compression on two cylinders. Wanted $13k for a new engine. Nope. Sold it without a bad financial haircut and on the advise of three Volvo dealer techs and a Volvo specialty shop that wasn't dealer affiliated bought a 2018 with a warranty. They said those were solid as they changed the ring design that year. So far this one has 70k and doesn't use a drop. Knock on wood. Still only going 5000 between changes to be safer. Hopefully they were right because I love that car and can't drive anything else now.

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

Yes, that one does have the updated engine.

@chancock4222

Жыл бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuy Thank you again. Still got the warranty and changing the oil every 5000 just to sleep a little sounder. 😂

@gheorghevasiliu5824

Жыл бұрын

Hi. How much oil should consume so I have to consider changing the pistons? 1 liter for 10k km is ok? Does exist any type of oil that is made for theese pistons? thank you!

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

@Gheorghe Vasiliu It's okay to burn liter of oil every 10000 miles.

I had the same problem with my 2013 S60 (76,000 miles) and had to add 2 quarts weekly. I was told that the car would need new piston rings as well as a new oil filter housing at $6000. I ended up trading in the car and buying a BMW. I never liked the Volvo much anyways, it handled like a truck and was falling apart.

@GymChess

7 ай бұрын

Lol ask Scotty Kilmer if BMW is a better choice.

Great video explaining this issue that a lot of us V40 owners share. I have an additional question though. Could the faulty oil ring issue relate to another issue I experience: When driving with the auto pilot and it goes up hill the pilot has difficulties maintaining the chosen speed and the engine will not accelerate until the speed is 10 or more km/h below? Thanks in advance

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

That is common problem on the older models and the older cruse control nothing to do with the oil consumption.

I had a 2017 D4 XC60, and it had a 5 cylinder 2.4L engine, powerful and torquey, and I kind of regretting selling it last year. Instead, I bought a Lynk&Co 01 PHEV which has a 1.5L petrol engine and an 80hp electric motor, so far it was fine, not sure on the long run, it is the same platform and drivetrain used in Volvo XC40 T5 Recharge.

I have a 2013 S60 T5 2.5L 88k miles. I bought it at auction from a local Volvo dealership and drove perfectly fine for 190 miles until a week ago. All the cars at my shop were warming up as we prepped to do snow removal. The Volvo, suddenly, while idling started making a slight tick, so I brought the RPMs up slightly and now sounds like a lower engine Knock. I’m guessing a rod bearing Although you can hear it from up top after putting it in the air it certainly sounds like it’s lower end. I called the dealership to see what they did for work and they said piston rings was part of their repair, but said normally don’t have rod bearing issues. You would think that if they opened up the engine to do rings that they would check and replace everything else necessary while they were there. Although they said they will warrantee their piston rings, they highly doubt a lower end knock would be caused by a faulty ring repair job. The part that bothers me the most is they did not change the oil because it is dark and has a very odd smell like it has an additive or a complete different viscosity as well and after getting stuck with this big problem, I’ve done a lot of research and their technician journal says they have to change the oil and, not only inform the customer, but put a sticker in the car and or in the owners manual of the change to specific synthetic oil that meets the standards for the remaining life of vehicle. This was clearly not done, but it seems like every Volvo service advisor I talk to skates around the subject and says it’s prob bad luck.. definitely bad luck, but I don’t believe it’s a coincidence and there’s a reason why they did not follow the technician journal procedure. I’m just looking for some advice on how I should go about trying to get Volvo to help me and own up to this cover up. Doesn’t seem like the other Volvo dealerships Want to help except have me bring in for diagnostics to tell me what I know already and say it’s on me. Used engine is $5500 with similar miles and how am I supposed to know if that newer engine is going to have similar issues? Anyone with help or advice I would really appreciate it. -john-

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

So if the Pistons were replaced the connecting Rod bearings have to be removed in order to remove the pistons those connected rod bearings on the T5 always gets replaced Especially if you have a damaged one it is common on the 5 cylinder engine to have damaged bearings for the connecting rods Due to oil consumption and oil loss and engine running low on oil Also when doing the pistons The oil gets drained since you have to take the oil Pan down there is no way they cut the old oil So that leaves the question if the piston rings were even replaced there is no additives we add to the engine after a piston ring replacement If they indeed did the job and they claimed they did the knocking issue would be their responsibility since they took those apart That's like me replacing your alternator and having to remove the intake as part of the process and then you have an intake leak and claim that it's your bad luck. It does not work that way if I remove the intake I am responsible to put new seals and make sure there's no leaks since it's part of the job when I'm doing an alternator for example. They should be responsible 100% for the knocking noise

@johnnyrocket82

Жыл бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuy thank you very much for your reply. I’ve been gathering information so that I can prove that point. I also reached out to Volvo cars of North America and they responded quickly with a form to fill out and I answered all the questions and told them what I was told. I also spoke to another Volvo dealership and they told me pretty much the same that you are now. The tech pulls it apart, finds the issue and if it is a warranty job, they write up what they find and submit it to Volvo and Volvo ultimately makes the decision. He told me nine times out of 10 when doing a piston ring job they build out rod bearings head gasket, sometimes new pistons, but they always change the oil and because of this class action lawsuit because of their bad piston ring design, Volvo created a technician journal for them to follow closely and part of that is changing the oil with 5W 40 synthetic and a certain spec of euro. I forget I think it’s A5 B4.. then they have to put a sticker either on the windshield, and or write it in the owners manual, and also advise the customer that in order to protect that engine, they must use that type of oil for the rest of the engines lifetime. This was not done. I’m waiting for a response from Volvo before I take it to the local dealership who fixed it. I truly believe, with the information that I was given from another Volvo dealer that they lied to me and when they opened the engine, they realized the lower crank was worn and for some reason did not want to repair it so they most likely did piston rings and rod bearings and put it back together. That’s why I got 194 miles before it started knocking. I’ve been told that I should take it to the local dealership where it was repaired but if they’re not telling me exactly what they did over the phone who’s to say that they are not going to show me the proper repair that’s why I’m patiently waiting for a Volvo to respond but time is of the essence. Thank you. By the way for responding, I truly appreciate it. I am a small business owner of a used car dealership and repair facility in the town that I grew up in. I took over my family business which was a body shop for 43 years and my father built a really good reputation. I do not do bodywork as I found a knack with buying and selling quality vehicles and now repairing them for the public and I have the best Google review for any used car dealer probably within a 500 to 1000 mile radius and that is unheard of for a used car dealer as most of us get a bad rap for doing stuff like this. I don’t buy vehicles from people I don’t know or small businesses that’s why I bought with confidence from a new car store, knowing that they don’t usually play the trickery games and I do not have it in me to do what they did and sell this car to someone, even if it was my worst enemy. I wish I could resolve this soon because I’ve been busting my butt and making up for this terrible loss.

My 2014 Volvo S60 consume one qt engine oil per 350 miles. national highway safety administration has issued a safety warning on Jan 4,2023 for the piston defect. I don't get any notification from Volvo, Volvo said only paid me if I repaired the piston within eight years, really not fair. If you have 2013 to 2016 S60 or 2015 to 2016 other models, please see dealer to fix the problem. After 2017, volvo changed the design, means volvo already know this defect, but clearly Volvo is trying to hide the defect

@marcusproenca2273

3 ай бұрын

I have the same problem with my xc60. But here in brazil is worse… not any warranty about it…

Very well explained video, thank you very much for it.

Thank you for the awesome clear explanation. Does this issue affect the 2011 C30 with the 5 cylinder turbo?

Thank you for an excellent explanation on the problem of Volvo engines burning oil. The video on the new and old piston ring design was very helpful in understanding how the problem occurs.

Very interesting and educative vid! I see that there is a class action in the USA open for this as of this year (2022). I'm in Canada so waiting to see what happens. I purchased my 2016 S60 (5cyl AWD) used in 2019 with about 35k km on it. It's now at 70k with no consumption issues (yet). I've been changing the oil between 4-8k kms and also trying to kick it a bit harder once in a while like you said. I do have an extended warranty until 2026. Should I push to get this job done? It may be an uphill battle since I'm not burning any oil yet, but I guess it may depend on what happens to the lawsuit. Do some engines get away with it, or will all eventually have the burning problem? Thanks again!

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

When you keep up with the oil changes and worm up the engine before you start driving and get on once in a while, it helps to keep the rings free, also with the 5 cylinder engine when they replace the rings you get the same design so I don't see the point.

@anthonysipos1002

Жыл бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuy thanks! I'll just keep monitoring it closely then. Too bad they don't change the design for the 5cyls... I guess it's because it was their last years with them vs the 4cyls which are still in production and needed a fix otherwise would cost them too much $$$ down the line.

@zzoinks

Жыл бұрын

I wonder how they messed up the engine design if they had a 2.5l i5 engine in the 2000s that didn't burn oil. They updated that engine right? Or is the new 2.5l engine a completely different design.

@anthonysipos1002

Жыл бұрын

@@zzoinks I think what he was saying is that this change in design had the intent to reduce friction to improve on fuel consumption and emissions. But backfired sadly. I do also wonder why they can't put back the old proven design rings and pistons from the older engines but I guess maybe incompatible tolerences with the block / cylinders? @The Volvo Guy do you know?

@zzoinks

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonysipos1002 I was reading on FCP Euro's "definitive guide to SI6 engines" and here's what they said about oil issues in the 6 cylinder engines: Piston/Ring Faults Volvo fitted both SI6 engines with special pistons and rings designed for maximum efficiency upon initial release. However, owners reported severe oil consumption issues, poor idle quality, and white smoke from the exhaust. Eventually, Volvo determined that the pistons and rings were the culprits, so they redesigned them. This issue affected engines built before 2012, though Volvo repaired those affected with new pistons and rings. However, any prospective buyer should be aware of this issue and be prepared for a fix if one wasn’t ever performed.

Bloody good video. Im in the UK. I have a 2014 2.0 d4204t5 engine. 110k with full history. I've just stripped the engine and the oil control ring is clogged as you described. Waiting for the new pistons to arrive. A question, the bores look in great shape, would you advise lightly honing the bores? Or do they have a special coating from factory? Many thanks. Best video I've seen

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.There is no need for honing as long as the walls are in good shape.

@naturallyglenlee2365

Жыл бұрын

Hey Simon, I'm also in the UK how did you get on with this?

@sibarnby38

Жыл бұрын

@@naturallyglenlee2365 Yes all went well, engines rebuilt, used the old pistons as the new style was out of stock and would not be in stock for months, cleaned up with new rings. There was very minimal wear to the bores, so far so good. A word of warning if your gonna do it, the balance shaft in the sump has to go back in exactly the same position otherwise you will get a whistle sound, there is a set up procedure for it, I had to replace it in the end as I could not get it quiet. £560! However the piston rings were only £100.

@erikschutzman2402

6 ай бұрын

@@sibarnby38 Hello, did you have the Volvo service manual to complete this rebuild?

I purchased a 2015 V60 with a 4-cylinder engine. In early 2021 the motor started to burn oil. Oil consumption has increased measured by the dash light coming on more regularly. It is October of 2022 and believe I am and the point I need to replace the pistons and rings. The car has 90,000 miles.

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

Yes usually they get worst as you go

@zzoinks

Жыл бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuy disappointing that it happened when the car wasn't even that old

Hello, main problem with sludge on piston ring is bad choise oil! Almost all usersin USA has change oil for 5w30 or 0w30. This oil isnt able to keep rings in clean condition. Must use 0w-20, with recomendation ACEA C5, for Daimler227.71, BMW 17+and Volvo VCC rbs0 together. I have use 0w20 ( MOTUL, RAVENOL EFS, VALVOLINE FE) and newer have consuption. Yesterday I has change, out was 5.5L. after 8000km. In, same volume. Engine d4204t14, 2015 May, 120t.km

@tdub77

2 жыл бұрын

I believe the luquimoly V tech 0-20 is certified by volvo to comply with these specs?

Very useful information , thanks for providing that! I wonder if that were to be a similar issue with the 2007 2.5 XC70 gasoline engine. Mine has a periodic loss of a roughly 1.5 l - 2 l per 10 000 km. Knowing that the previous owner had replaced head gasket without bothering about oil rings seems to be leading to a logical problem of oil consumption. Have you had experience with that particular engine?

@TheVolvoGuy

3 жыл бұрын

No what we have seen on theses engines is valve guides due to age i have 07 xc70 and I do lose some oil but I change my oil every 4-5k miles so I do not notice any oil problems but mine does not burn as much.

Thank you for your helpful video. My wife and I both have affected Volvos that we purchased in 2015. We love both of the cars. One is a 5 cyl. the other is 4 cyl. One has about 115k and the other about 130k miles. We planned on keeping them both until 250-300k miles based on Volvo's reputation for longevity. Our experience has been that oil consumption only happens when we use 0W20 (new spec) full syn oil instead of 5W30 (orig spec). You recommend changing oil every 5k. I agree and have always done so with these two cars. Earlier this month I instructed our mechanic to go back to 5W30 due to the oil consumption issue. However, do you think this approach only buys us time before eventual cylinder damage/catastrophic engine failure? It does not seem to be cost effective to proactively replace all of the pistons and rings. Both cars currently perform the same as when they were new. I suppose I have the same question as the prior poster Laura Rubin. So, based on your experience, in your opinion, are the engines in our cars doomed to fail prematurely?

@robfitzgerald576

2 жыл бұрын

I have just read through some more of your responses to questions below (after posting the above). It appears that in your opinion the different engine oil weight is not a factor. And, it appears that the complete fix for this differs based upon the engine (rings only for 5-cyl. and pistons and rings for 4-cyl. engine.

@TheVolvoGuy

2 жыл бұрын

That is true the 5cylinder engines we replaced just the ring with the same style the 6 and the 4 changed the pistons and the rings to a different style. But as long as you do not lose oil pressure it will not cause damage to the engine.

@erwanfrenchy8849

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuy are those new design pistons for petrol or same fix for the diesel VEA 4 cyl? Thanks for your video

@sumitbalmiki8475

Жыл бұрын

I Have the same issue on my 2015 S60 with only 60K miles. i was quoted $6500 to replace the piston and rings. I am in two minds whether its worth for longevity?

@Charlitos1988

8 ай бұрын

​@@TheVolvoGuya question, the final version of 5 cylinders engines around 2015 are prone to oil consumption? I mean the 2000-2010 didn't have this issue, my 5 cylinder from 2003 is still going strong without oil burning. I change oil every 10k kilometers.

Great description

Glad I found your site! Looking at a used 2015.5 XC60 T5 with the 4cylinder Drive E engine. Vehicle is a one owner, dealer serviced maintenance records and has 77k miles on it. Is there any way to find out if the engine has been repaired under the original warranty? Thanks for this very useful post. We've always had a Volvo and currently looking at the XC line. Our 2004 S60 2.5T just hit 200k miles and still runs great!

First and foremost thanks for this video. Second, does this apply to the 2011 T6, wifes is consuming oil now. Have only run pennzoil and castrol synthetic. For the 20k miles we've owned it. Have you ever seen anyone run a quart of atf to try to clean out carbon? Btw, I'm a tech at a volvo/mack big truck dealership, the rings come the same exact way

@TheVolvoGuy

4 жыл бұрын

That's nice but the piston must be much bigger lol. Yes the T6 have the updated pistons in rings because of the turbo. What I do is drive on the highway and drop it in 4th gear and drive it with engine rpms at 4k for about 5 minutes at time and do it for 5-10 times the heat and the speed will free up the rings and clean the carbon.

@tmillner0682

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuy does cleaning out the carbon help with the oil consumption? Do you have a part number for the updated pistons for the 2011 3.0T?

@TheVolvoGuy

4 жыл бұрын

@@tmillner0682 The turbo engines have the updated pistons in them. I will get you the part number tomorrow for you. It comes with all the rings installed on it. And yes the carbon builds up on the oil control ring and the oil the get cleaned off the cylinder wall it have no where to drain back in the oil pain due to carbon clogging the drain holes in the piston and piston rings and it ends up getting pushed to the top and it burns it.

@tmillner0682

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuy I appreciate it. If the updated pistons are already in from factory you don't have to get the part number. You have a new subscriber

@TheVolvoGuy

4 жыл бұрын

@@tmillner0682 thank you... very much appreciated.

HEY, great educational video on what is going on with losing oil. Can you let this audience know what it should cost to change the pistons & rings including labor so we don't get hosed? Thank you!!

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

The cost would vary from place to place since labor I different around the US like California is double NY in labor.

Great info, thanks. Unfortunately I found out the hard way having bought a V70 D4 with 150k miles last year and didn’t use it much due to Covid lock down. Now I’m using it I find it’s only doing 1.5K miles to half a litre of expensive oil. My 3 previous ,even higher mileage, Passat diesels did NOT use oil at all between changes. 🙁

@TheVolvoGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Volvo did have a problem with piston rings. Here in the US we don't have diesel models but from what I hear it did have the same ring problem.

Thank you for your good explanation…kindly need to know if the xc60 t6 petrol engine 2018 model have the same issue.

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

No, it should not

is the v60 rings and pistons the same as in the s60 loved the vid

would you please give part numbers for the new pistons and ring kit

Toyota had the same piston and ring problem creating excessive oil consumption. It was the 2AZ-FE.

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

True so as other manufacturers

For Certified cars purchased on or after November 1, 2018, the Certified by Volvo provides a 5-year/unlimited-mile exclusionary coverage from the original in service date of the car. Vehicles that were originally sold as Certified Pre-Owned prior to November 1, 2018, the Certified Pre-Owned warranty provides 7-year/100,000-mile coverage.

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

Good information to know thanks.

Hi, how are you doing? Could you talk about the 2013 Volvo S60 T4 1.6 . Thanks

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

You don't have this engine in the US

My impression is that if the engine burns a lot of oil, most people think that it is just a matter of taking a compression test. And if it is ok then it is not piston rings or cylinders that are the culprit and do not think that there could be something wrong with oil rings.

Hi TheVolvoGuy, my 2015 V60 T6 is burning oil so I purchased new pistons. Trouble is, they supplied the same ones as those I removed. The oil control ring is bigger then the one you show but smaller then the new replacement you show. I'd be very interested to know the Volvo part number for the piston and rings you purchased to replace the original piston. Thank you.

This is so informative and helpful video. Why do some of the cars that should be affected not seem to develop the issue? I have 14 T5 5 cylinder and it seems ok for now. 58,000 miles. What would help keep it that way in terms of preventing this issue? Thanks for the great video.

@Passportsandprofits

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve owned volvos my whole life and this issue seems to happen around 100k miles

@TheVolvoGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Change your oil every 5k miles not 10k and if you drive a lot more on the highway and you worm up your engine before you drive it that helps. Driving the car like you stole it once in while helps too. Because heat cleans up carbon build up and carbon build up on the bad design rings makes it worst.

The video is verry informational.Can you provide a link for the cylinder heads and the piston rings?

I really like to hear more I have 2019 Volvo xc90 inscription love it

@TheVolvoGuy

2 жыл бұрын

2019 most of the problems have been worked out and fixed so not much problems there.

Ty for the video. I have a 2013 s60 t5 that I bought at a Volvo dealership...it's been mine 3 years and i regret buying it...latest issue the low oil price light comes on a hour from home... check the dipstick zero oil on it... No hot warning or oil low warning....4qts later it showed up on the dipstick half way up.... ...the dealer replaced the solenoid in May when it was using oil.... ....it's still under warranty and i wan't them to take it back.....it had a check engine light (no light til they worked on it) after 8 weeks in the shop for the solenoid.....it only had 65k miles... so disappointed with Volvo ...and the dealer who offered me 8k trade in.

@TheVolvoGuy

4 жыл бұрын

Hi, The low oil level is a problem I have seen a lot on the T5 engines. You should take it to the dealer volvo will cover the piston rings replacement repair.

@RosemarieHunter

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuy I did they had it 8 weeks said it was the solenoid... then the check engine light and let it run down to nothing on the dip stick.... took it back they said "we performance tested it and it's fine.. just bring it in every 100 miles ....to top off the oil"..... seriously I am under warranty and not a mechanic so why do I have to tell them anything.....

@TheVolvoGuy

4 жыл бұрын

@@RosemarieHunter They are not telling you the truth. The solenoid will not cause a low oil unless its leaking oil. Your engine have high oil consumption. It is not acceptable for you to keep going back every 100 miles to top off the oil. If they do not want to fix your vehicle contact Volvo not the dealer but the actual volvo company and open a case with them. And give them all the info you have and they will contact your dealer's service manager and get it taking care of. Do not let them do that to you.

I am not sure what the new part is, or if there is an empty part number. V 40 2014 t 5 is currently in use.

Hello Volvo Guy. I have a 2013 S60 T5 with 109,000 mikes and was having oil consumption problems recently. Within the last 10,000 miles is my guess. Last time the check engine light came on the diagnosis was misfire on cylinders 4 and 5. A reputable mechanic and shop have given a fatal diagnosis. There is clean oil in both cylinders especially #5. I don't want to junk the car as it is in otherwise excellent condition and I feel if I can clear this hurdle I can drive it for another 100000 miles. Should I bring it to another mechanic or should I go straight to the dealer? What if they recommend a rebuild including new pistons? I live in SW Pennsylvania and would like to know if you have any ideas. Thank you for your time. Excellent channel

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

If it is burning oil, then more likely they will recommend pistons rings replacement, depending on how much oil it's burning.

Thank you, what are the oem numbers of the new piston and rings

@lukasplesnik945

Ай бұрын

Hello. Did you find the ne OEMs?

@otohnsurgery

Ай бұрын

​​@@lukasplesnik945 31460046 and 31375376 piston and rings

@otohnsurgery

Ай бұрын

I have changed pcv valve cover and exhaust manifold cover, cleaned dpf, cleaned egr. Now oil consumption reduced %80. So i will not change the rings. It is acceptable

@lukasplesnik945

Ай бұрын

@@otohnsurgery Yeah. i also changed pcv valve cover, clean egr but the piston rings were gone. So for Everybody looking for the OEM --> 31460046

I have a 2017 XC90 V6 that is starting to burn thru about a quart a month (every 600-700 miles). Is it possible they were still using these piston rings at the end 2016/beginning 2017? No one can seem to figure out why this care needs so much oil ask off a sudden.

I have a 2013 S60 and it's burning a TON of oil. Could this be my issue? It's just over 80K miles and just the last 6 months I've had to add oil or change it like every 1,000 miles. I am now checking it weekly.

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

Yes, if the engine is not leaking oil externally, that is the problem in your engine. You probably have the T5 5 cylinder engine Turbo. I have the same exact Volvo with the same engine.

so if i'm correct : piston rings problems on the 4, 5 and 6(non turbo) cylinders from 2010 to 2016. No piston rings problems with the T6 6cylinders 3.0 turbo. And no piston rings problems before 2010 and from 2017 for all engines. Am i ok ?

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

That is correct

Hi VG great videos, just in the middle of a 3.2 rebuild head(burnt valve) and just checking f it's worth doing rings and main bearings while I'm at it does mine have the bad rings, (pulling a piston out tomorrow so I'll know then!)if so can I swap fro better design/later rings?(Who makes these new ones) struggling to find non "Volvo" branded ones for good money, I suspect Mahle make the rings but can't find anything in their catalogue, any help gratefully received. Thx keep making these videos..

Thanks very much for this content. Very informative and interesting. Im looking at purchasing an early 2016 xc90 T8 with 80k miles from my local Volvo dealer. I dont think the rings have been replaced. Is there anything I can investigate for this issue without driving the car 1000 plus miles? Thanks

I love your videos! I have a 2013 XC60 T6. There is a whine coming from the accessory belts. It's not the PCV valve. I there one of those idler pulleys that go out more often than the others?

@TheVolvoGuy

4 жыл бұрын

If it's not the PCV box you check by pulling the dip stick out while the engine is running if it does not go away then you are right. I would change the belt tensioner and the ideler pulley also. I have seen both fail.

2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo looking at 2016 R design on Saturday . Seeing if pistons were replaced on these and what I should look for when looking under the hood? Any help is appreciated you are awesome !

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

The only way to know is with the VIN and look at the engine serial number.

I complained to my dealership aout high oilconsumption to my dealership, my 2016 xc60 failed the test so they will for free replace the pistons and rings, i think there was a court case

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

I believe you are right.

I heard of this engine treatment that is supposed to be added to the engine and the engine is run for a certain duration, and when it is drained out (it's a harsh cleaner) the crud had been broken down and reduced oil consumption.

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

Some do work, it's a case by case, not everyone works.

Can I just replace the original rings with original parts, but without replacing the pistons? Cost/Benefit analysis...

Thank you for this video, my 760 230 FT doesn't burn much oil, neither does my 07 V70 2.5T , love the P2 5 cylinder engine after 2004 and up, just got a 2012 S60 T5 and I noticed the serpentine belt was shredded (blown motor obviously) I wonder If I should save the engine and fix it or just junk it, have a replacement engine already,

@TheVolvoGuy

3 жыл бұрын

It really depends on how much you want to spend to fix it you can replace the cylinder head and that will get it back up and running.

Very in depth explanation, everything makes so much sense. Thank you! I have this issue right now on my 2015 Volvo S60. Is there any way to contact you? I would like to speak to you further about this issue. Thank you!

Can you check is there even hole under oil ring? I have had two series where the oil return hole has not been drilled all the way through. no wonder they get blocked..

Hello!! This video is super informative!! Thank you. I’m looking to do this job on 2014 S60 T5 and I had a couple questions. Is the new ring design 100% necessary?? What are the part numbers you used?? What Volvo did you do this job on?? Thank you!

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome. The T5 the ring design did not change they changed what the rings are made off.

I have a 2014 XC90 with the 3.2l inline 6 non-turbo engine, does it have the old style rings that do not have the oil consumption issue? thank you for the video.

Very interesting video. I like your explanations, easy to follow. The thing is I habe a 2015 S60 D4 which also burns oil, around every 2000-3000km (1200-1800 miles ish) I have to put 0.5L of oil (0.5 quarts I think). Is is possible to upgrade the pistons and also piston rings on that engine? I'm in the European market btw and scandinavia to be more precise

@TheVolvoGuy

2 жыл бұрын

From what I hear sine we don't have diesel engines that they have the same problem, and they have updated rings as well with updated pistons

@BanhChui1968swe

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuy I see. Appreciate the answer

@BanhChui1968swe

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuy will it hurt to leave the engine as is and just top of oil when needed or should we replace the pistons sometime in the near future? They sound expensive to replace

Hi there, love your videos:) i had 2012 xc70 t6 that blew valve at 210k miles. I am looking at 2015,2016 xc60 with T6 again. Are they with the good rings? Also what can we do to prevent that or slow it down at least. Thanks a lot

I just bought a high mileage xc60 with this engine with a dead hole on #3. Did you run into any issues when you r&r’d the balance cassette and oil pump to punch the pistons out ? Thanks this explains the issue in good detail.

Thank you so much for sharing this. How long can you expect a twin charge supercharger to last and how much would it cost to replace one?

@TheVolvoGuy

4 жыл бұрын

The cost of repairs are very expensive. But I have only seen one supercharger fail at low mileage. I have seen the seals for supercharger fail and cause a check engine light for lean condition and it is a costly repair.

Is this the same with the D5 diesel engines? I have a 2016 D5

Hi. Great video! My Volvo dealership’s mechanics decided to change to new pistons and rings since I had an increased oil consumption. Motor is d4204t5. After the change. Seemed great at first day, but now I have been having a lot of oil leaks from the motor. First an oil pipe, second radial seals from vacuum pump and now I see oil between gearbox and motor 😢 The car also smells a lot and it would seem like burnt oil smell. Do you know what could be the problem? My mechanics seem to wander off in strange explanations and just changes the O-ring or radial sealing that leaked. Though later it just seemed that they sealed that area, but problem keeps coming back in other places after just a few miles. Forever grateful for your input!

Hi , I have 2015 S 60 T5, 60K miles that has the oil consumption issue. Today, The dealer shop said it would cost about $6500 to replace the piston and piston rings. The other local shop said once you have to replace the piston and rings, you might as well sell the car. My question is it worth to replace piston and rings? Does it affect cars longevity?

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

It does not effect the longevity it will freshen up the engine that is a personal choice is your a 5 cylinder or 4 cylinder?

Very well explained but a list of relevant engines would make it triple as helpful!

@TheVolvoGuy

4 жыл бұрын

All volvo engine that 5cylinder si6 3.2 and the I4 turbo and twin charged do have the same exact problem. Not sure on other Makes.

@martinrousev

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuy This was a quick reply! Does this include 2.4 and 2.5 petrol 5 cyl from 1-st gen S60? Mine is a 2.5 and seems to burn about 1 liter every 3000 km. Seems excessive.

@Charlitos1988

8 ай бұрын

​@@TheVolvoGuyso T6 3.0 doesn't have oil consumption issue? I was planning to buy a 2011 XC60 T6 with around 100k kilometers

Have great news to report if you have a five cylinder V 50. We did reach out and have custom oil rings made that use the new design discussed in the video. It was smoking for a while but that was because we had done a" wet test" to diagnose the engine failure. Evidently the oil had settled into the catalytic converter and needed to be burned out. It's running great and not burning oil... yet, although it has only been a couple hundred miles. Will report but wanted to update anyone that this might be a possibility.

@Charlitos1988

8 ай бұрын

what year v50?

@thermeshade

8 ай бұрын

2006@@Charlitos1988

Do you have a video where you remove and install the new rings and reinstall the pistons in the 3.2 engine ? Thanks.

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

No sorry I do not.

Great Video! Any suggestions for a 2006 V50? Rebuild at 83k. At 177k now the same thing, pizza-ed a valve/carbon buildup.. New pistons came with old design. We tried 'Total Seal' for custom oil rings using the new design. They did not get it right, smoking like a bugger. You are our last hope before we put the original ring set in and just assume it will keep burning oil and die in another 80-90k. Hate using that much oil. Like the car when it's running... Thank you!

Great video! So the T6 3 liter turbo from 2010 had these upgraded rings?

@TheVolvoGuy

2 жыл бұрын

All 6 cylinder 3.0 turbo had the updated rings.

@oldschoolgamer5932

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuy Thanks!

Very well explained video, thank you very much for the info. Would you please advise if there are any other parts that need to be changed in order for the new piston/piston rings to be fitted in those faulty engines?

@TheVolvoGuy

3 жыл бұрын

No everything would be reused the pistons and and the rings will need to be replaced on the 4 cylinder engines.

@dg0m3s

3 жыл бұрын

​@@TheVolvoGuy Would you have the Volvo part numbers for these? (the piston and the ring set)

Great Video, Thanks for taking the time to explain it. I have a 2011 XC70 T6, and it uses a lot of oil. You mentioned the non Turbo models of this era had the problem. Did the T6 use the same problem rings?

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

@honkyz no the turbo 3.0T did not have the same rings problem they did have good rings.

@agnesf2659

Жыл бұрын

I have a 2011 XC70 T6 Polestar in Toronto area with 344k km on it. Yeah, mote than 344k km and it still runs great. A mechanic at Volvo dealer told me to top up 1L of oil every 4k km for my car to avoid "oil level low" warning light.

Me pergunto não avera algum aditivo para desobstruir os segmentos visto que está obstruído devido a carbonização claro que se calhar teria de ser algo um pouco agressivo para a limpeza e também poderia dar cabo das juntas do motor mas quem sabe uma redução de óleo ajudaria um pouco visto que a troca deverá ficar a preço de ouro cá em Portugal.😢

Question, I have a 2016 XC 60 T5 with 28k miles. I have contacted Volvo customer care USA with the vin number for my SUV after watching your video. They told me that the manufacture date was 12/08/15. They could not tell me if it was the newer engine with improved piston and ring setup. What do you think? I will be asking the Volvo dealership I use next time I go in. It is still under extended full factory warranty. I bought it Volvo certified used with 10K on it. Thanks for your time!

@TheVolvoGuy

4 жыл бұрын

If you have a 4 cylinder engine then most likely you do not have the updated rings. But if you run in to high oil consumption problem you will be covered under the warranty. And I have seen volvo cover the repair even if it's out of warranty under what's called goodwill.

Thanks for this video! If I have a late 2016 XC60 T6, will I have the new piston design? Is there a way to tell? Thanks!

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

With the VIN we can tell.

It's absolutely outrageous that Volvo did not do a recall. Is there any way to clean the carbon out?

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

They actually extended the warranty for this problem and did turn it into a recall.

@ruthellen6948

Жыл бұрын

@@TheVolvoGuy Why are you posting that they did turn it into a recall??? I have a 2013 and there is no recall that I am aware of, do you know something I do not? What I do know, and have previously posted, is that despite knowing this impacts 2013-2016's, Volvo has only mailed us last month anoffers to cover their original 4 year warranty to 8 years, so big deal, that means zero 2013s and 2014s are covered since we were notified in 2023.

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

@Ruth Ellen I was not talking about the 2013's. I didn't think they would add the 2013 and 12's to the recall, but they have always done them under goodwill. Won't hurt to try.

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

@Ruth Ellen also that was my bad. I should have asked what year your volvo was. I assumed it was a SPA platform.

Watched your excellent video again. Dealership replaced my PCV (900 dollars) and is tracking my oil consumption for the next thousand miles. My 2.5L has a dipstick and I've been watching the level. At 500 miles it seems like I am still burning too much oil. The engine has 78000 miles and I'm worried that it probably is a piston ring issue. I like my 2016 V60 and have owned a five other Volvos over the years but this may be the last one for me. What is a typical cost to replace pistons/rings? thanks.

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

It's very expensive, and depending on how much they charge for labor rate

Hi, I do have the same issue…on my XC90 2016 D5 but do you know if this oil problem can cause further other issues…I was thinking that smoke what comes from this issue it will also destroy the DPF or Intercooler EGR…what do you think?Thanks in advance!😊

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

Diesel engines are different. I have never worked on one before

Hey man! Awesome video - simple and understandable. I'd like to ask a question - I went to see a V70 d3 150HP 2017 the other day and looks in decent shape for 200k km. How can I check if these engine is one of the effected ones and what other things would you advise to me mindful about or check with this car and engine? Any other known (expensive) faults? EGR valve and cooler have been replaced.. Thanks a lot, cheers!

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

I am sorry we don't get diesel engines in the US. don't know much about them.

Thanks so much for this video. I am in South Africa. I have high oil consumption and have been complaining about it for about 3 years. I have sent them your videos, a copy of the class action lawsuit and the letter that was sent out by Volvo US to US customers. Volvo SA and the dealer Tom Campher Motors completely deny that there is this problem with the 2015 XC60 T6 car that they sold me. I have had enough of fighting with them and just want to get my car fixed. Can you advise what the part numbers are for the pistons and rings so that they can be ordered correctly? Thanks.

I have a 2013 XC60 Diesel 5 cyl. I bought it with 150k km and after 15k more it appeared warning "add 0.5l of Oil". I guess if is only 0.5l/1l per 15k km is okay since a lot of people use much more oil.

@TheVolvoGuy

Жыл бұрын

Yes that's not much burning at all.