The lead writer and narrative director of this game, Matt Sophos answered a question on Twitter that asked what did that last shrine mean? And he answered: "The larger figure behind Kratos is actually Thor standing over dead Kratos (which was in the original mural). But since Kratos changed his fate, all of that was painted over with the new prediction of his future where people revere Kratos. As he says to Freya/Mimir soon after...there is "much to do; much to rebuild." So this new future is a statue dedicated to Kratos "the rebuilder" rather than his past as "the destroyer"."

@thor438

Жыл бұрын

But if kratos didn't had changed his fate how did thor would have killed kratos tho because in the second fight kratos was easily overpowering thor and even spared his life and kratos was also holding back 🤔

@RAD-LTF

Жыл бұрын

@@thor438 I think katos actually changed his fate when he told his son to open his heart to the world

@thor438

Жыл бұрын

@RAD-LTF makes sense 👏

@sparknazo

Жыл бұрын

@@thor438 maybe kratos mentality in the fight is what changed the outcome Thor fights essentially like old kratos brutal and full of anger and if Kratos fought the same way he would have lose cause thats "destroyer kratos" Thor wants to fight but instead Kratos chooses to fight smarter and wiser cause you see the first fight he fighting with emotions just like Thor was and he was getting handled

@SaMmYmYt

Жыл бұрын

Eric williams dors not have a twitter tho right?

“To grieve deeply is to have loved fully” What a line.

@kpb17

Жыл бұрын

Tears, every time

@forcedge2302

Жыл бұрын

To hate fiercely is also to have loved fully. (Sindri)

@kevinnoonan5534

Жыл бұрын

I ugly cried SO hard at that line

@lavans5721

Жыл бұрын

​@@forcedge2302 grief takes different forms.

@Miter_everyCorner-uk6on

Жыл бұрын

@@forcedge2302 true😆😂

The emotion on Kratos’ face when he saw the other side of the mural almost had me😂😭 having played the older games, Kratos was always feared, hated and seen as a monster. Seeing people love him and appreciate him probably really touched him🥹 loved this game

@warhawk_yt

Жыл бұрын

Same. I grew up playing the original games and it hits so differently if you have played/grew up with and know the history of how he got to this point. He went from someone who was a monster, hated and feared to someone who is loved, worshipped and considered to be a hero.

Christopher Judge obviously deserves all the praise he has received but Ryan Hurst was unbelievable at playing Thor.

@tigrisrgn4062

Жыл бұрын

he was beter than christopher, he was the best in the whole cast

@SoulShardx

Жыл бұрын

@@tigrisrgn4062Not really. Danielle was the best in the whole cast. She should’ve won it but she wasn’t even nominated when Sunny Suljic didn’t even deserve to be nominated I loved his performance and I love Atreus but there is no way he was worthy of a Best Performance nomination. Danielle deserved it way more then Sunny and Christopher.

@tigrisrgn4062

Жыл бұрын

@@SoulShardx who is daniel, freya? no odin was the best in my opinion, christopher is nothing special if you ask me his voice is way too exagerated, maybe if he kept his natural voice i would'v liked it more

@SoulShardx

Жыл бұрын

@@tigrisrgn4062 Yeah. Odin’s voice was kinda controversial so it’s obvious he wasn’t nominated. For me I loved Odin’s voice I just wish his writing the dialogue I mean was a bit older English. More in the veins of how Kratos and Thor speak. The dialogue was bit too modern. Atreus is the only one who isn’t jarring to listen to when he speaks in modern English.

@SoulShardx

Жыл бұрын

@@tigrisrgn4062 And what do you mean by “exaggerated”?? He sounded pretty good to me. Not too far from Chris’ real voice.

I don't know if you noticed but Sindri was using Brok's hammer and sword in the final battle. It is also ironic that the event that caused Odin's death was not all his crimes but the murder of Brok. When he killed Brok he put Sindri on the path that ended him once and for all. Remember Kratos and company were content to leave him trapped in the soul marble. It was Sindri that killed Odin, with Brok's hammer no less. The writing in this game is absolute top notch. In the first 3 games Kratos was the player character, but he was never a hero. In the past 2 games they took a destroyer of worlds and the embodiment of vengeance and turned him into an avatar for justice and rebuilding. BRAVO Santa Monica Studios..................BRAVO!!!!!

@XXX-vv1yj

Жыл бұрын

Making Sindri bring Brok's body to Tyr's Temple was also a horrible dusting of irony.

@Shadow_of_Sundered_Star

Жыл бұрын

Well, Loki's wife was Sigyn. Pretty sure Angrboda was just a fling in the myths.

What Faye said about Grief, love and opening our hearts to the world made me cry, that moment is so special and resonates with me on such a deeply personal level. Also Deborah Ann Woll who is the actress that plays Faye is incredibly talented 😍

@JavZub

Жыл бұрын

She's also Karen Page in Netflix Daredevil. She's a remarkable actress

@THE_BEY0NDER

Жыл бұрын

@@JavZub Hence me saying she's incredibly talented, Karen page in Daredevil and Punisher is easily her best character 👌

Side quest - If it hasn't been spoiled yet...I think you should head to Nieflheim (Near the Raven Tree), to an Asgardian Remnant. I think you'd be surprised at what you find.

One of the most genius things in this game is the timing of the revelation of Brok's riddle. "Get's bigger the more you take away = a hole". The hole was Sindri, and they just kept taking

@ollie-pn1ql

Жыл бұрын

That really got me at the end

I think the majority of Sindri's anger is directed towards himself. When he revived Brok the first time, he failed to get his soul's "Direction". As a result, while he's mad at Odin for murdering Brok and Atreus and Kratos for inadvertently bringing Odin into his home, he's mad at himself most of all for stripping Brok of his afterlife

@OleksandrNech

Жыл бұрын

Also Sindri was helping Atreus to find Tyr even before Kratos knows about it.

Elden Ring can keep that cute little game of the year award, cause GoW Ragnarok is game of the freakin century

@omnigoro21

Жыл бұрын

Ragnarok is an excelent game, elden ring is history of videogames

@Mr.jbaloch

Жыл бұрын

Not even close 😂

@beraty.6899

Жыл бұрын

not with this story man it so rushed, elden ring is complete game

@pastorofmuppets4552

Жыл бұрын

@@beraty.6899 both games have a rushed ending .

@RyanLBrown9396

Жыл бұрын

@@beraty.6899 what story ? The story of a father with a broken past trying be better and help guide his teenage son who’s trying to find himself ?

That callback to Brok's riddle is so damn good. Gives me chills every time.

@LoTRMaia

Жыл бұрын

I sobbed over it. The ending with Sindri 1000% broke my heart. I know not everything is gumdrops and rainbows, but it sucks when not every story can have a happy ending.

This final chapter alone with the emotion & epic battle is why Ragnorok is my GOTY

2:01:22 Sindri’s facial expressions, from anger to sadness. Poor guy’s down right depressed.

Me meeting Ingrid: "Who names a sword Ingrid?" Me watching Freyr/"Yngvi" reach up: "Oh...OOOOOOOH...OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH!" Ingrid is a name derived from Yngvi and roughly translates to "Yngvi's beloved" #JustNordicNameThings

Freya appears chocking Odin with the binding spell noose I noticed that it was similar to Baldur and Freya's interaction in the 2018 game. The dialog is even similar. Baldur to Freya: I spent the last 100 years dreaming of this moment. I practiced everything I would say to you, every word. To make you understand exactly what you stole from me... Freya to Odin: I've spent many long winters thinking about what I would say to you as I watched you take your last breath... Baldur to Freya: But now I realize I don't need you to understand anything I don't need you at all. Freya to Odin: But now I realize there's only one thing I need you to know. You have no hold on me anymore. And that's not the only similarity between the two scenes. Baldur tries to strangle Freya to death. Freya tries to strangle Odin to death. And both people being strangled still profess their love for the person strangling them.

@milesmcstylez

Жыл бұрын

There are similar parallels between the moment Baldur is freed from Freya's spell by the mistletoe, and when Freya is freed from Odin's spell in Vanaheim.

Best franchise of all time. That should have won the game of the year.

@dmolmalowski

Жыл бұрын

I agree, but elden ring was out for longer and was multi platform, thatd give it an edge voting wise.

The moment we march into Asgard for war I felt an adrenaline rush like I had not felt since the final battle scene in Endgame. This is one of not just greatest games I’ve ever played, it’s also one of the best sequel/conclusions to a saga I have ever seen on screen! I cried no less than 4 times at this game, both at heartbreaking and heartwarming moments. And now we have seen not only Atreus/Loki grow into his own, we have seen Kratos finally do something I thought impossible…..open his heart not just for his wife and son, but to the world. The moment he breaks down after seeing his tryptic shrine and sees that he becomes good and beloved god I cried just as hard with him. And Atreus/Loki making the decision to leave his father and journey to find the rest of his people, I was damn near broken, this must be what parents feel like when their kids graduate and leave home. The one thing that I had a problem with is that the “true ending” is with the funeral with Brok. I loved how it was done but I don’t want the conclusion to this game to be not just saying goodbye to Brok but seeing Sindri completely broken, and implying that he may never recover from his grief and guilt. But still it is a masterpiece of a game. Thank you Corey Barlog, Eric Williams and all the great geniuses behind making this game. I will treasure it always.😭😭😭👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

It wouldn't be God Of War if there wasn't heartbreak involved.

@ivanroesly5777

Жыл бұрын

God of war doesnt need heartbreak, sad stories, it needs more revenge, killing gods and brutality

@joker6-6

Жыл бұрын

@@ivanroesly5777 Probably.

@shad3115

Жыл бұрын

@@ivanroesly5777 Yeah maybe if this was 2005

@ivanroesly5777

Жыл бұрын

@@shad3115 thats why i feel ragnarok story is not the best

@vamperic

Жыл бұрын

@@ivanroesly5777 It's not a good story if you lack taste :)

What an emotional journey this was...on stream or here on YT. It was so much fun. Seeing you laugh, cry and rage, this is the Marz we all love. Now I just hope that you had a wonderful Christmas. Life isn't fair sometimes and very overwhelming and hard. But please, never forget that we love you. ❤️🤗

The Realms at War is a no holds barred, full-tilt, series of conflicts escalating in a battle against the All-Father himself. Thank you for the awesome playthrough Marz take care of your self and luka 😊

I do know that when it comes to grief, there are often no silver linings, certainly no happy endings. You just endure, survive. I applaud the writers for not shying away from the fact that for some, they're never made whole again. It's not happy, and not what many want from their entertainment, but it's an important perspective to share. It makes me wonder what members of this team had gone through in their own personal lives to write with such bravery.

Thanks for uploading Marz, I've really enjoyed experiencing this game with you!

I really like the idea that fate is not a written truth, but a consequence of the patterns that we create ourselves. Kratos wanted to die. Faye's death weighed on him like nothing else and only his son allowed him to hold on. But gradually, as it happens with children, he began to grow and move away from his father. Left alone, Kratos can no longer fight the pain of losing Faye. Therefore, in the original version of the prophecy, he had to die: because the old man with the logs himself called death and Kratos longed for death in battle during Ragnarok. But it was love for Faye and Atreus that made Kratos grow above himself and understand that he has something to live for and, more importantly, what not to die for. That's why he stayed alive at the end of the story. Because he fought for life, not for death. Because he opened his heart to the world and was not alone with his grief.

That was Jormungandr, the snake that Atreus found with Angrboda and brought back to life with the giants' soul (Presumably called Jormungandr). Thor then sent him back in time as mentioned by Mimir. Where the world serpent is now after this moment, I know not.

Such a masterpiece game, one of the best games I ever enjoyed , thx for the beautiful playthrough Marz , much love 🖤

God of war deserves some awards! The life lessons just kept coming the whole game and what an emotional roller coaster it was. Love the videos marz keep up the good work 👍🏻

Thank you for the upload Marz. Great ending to an excellent game. Hope you enjoyed it a lot.

Thank you marz for let us to lives these moments 🥺 it was so beautiful ⚘🌹

Well Done on this playthrough, Marz! And I'm so glad that you are one of the few who still likes Freya by the end. 😍

Yesss! 1st! Will be back to edit when done 😆 Marz I highly encourage you to do as much of the endgame content you can... it makes the game 10 times better (especially the crater!) getting all the story. And thank you for all your videos, they have helped me get through cancer treatment the past 2 years. I can't wait for more with all the awesome games coming out next year!

So glad you upload the video at this hour, just when i get to work :') i can relax with some nice gameplay

The story continues after the war is over ,you've only finished half of the game ..keep playing!

@viraunvir

Жыл бұрын

Yeah she doesn''t understand about God of war and kratos life story

@mikegraham8319

Жыл бұрын

There's so much more content after the story's over ..go for the platinum ,Vanaheim (The Crater) best realm in the game! amazing 👏

@Sheenifier

Жыл бұрын

I'm assuming she's gonna in her free time, but it's obvious that she only picked up the gow series when streaming became popular

Hey Marz, glad to see ya posting. I remember this stream! it was unforgettable. Such an awesome finale 🤩 I hope you had a great Christmas weekend btw! And here's to a happy new years! 🎄✨🎉🙌🏻 Gn Marz, stay awesome 🌙

1:14:51 No wonder Thor took so long to stand up to his father. He instantly died as soon as he rebelled against him. If your father could kill you easily like that with no mercy and zero empathy, you would be scared to even think about betraying him.

Thank you for not ending the video at the credits, its always good to hear your thoughts/opinions at the end of a game.

This is the Best Christmas Present! Thank you kindly Marz!!!

This episode is so emotional until Atreus talking to Thrud and her mother. Marz made me laugh so hard 😂 1:37:09

@irishdc9523

Жыл бұрын

"By Lady Sif's soft, perfect sloshers": Brok

After he smashes Odin's marble, the way Sindri twitches his shoulders right before disappearing was such a cool touch. Sindri is spoiling for a fight everywhere he goes now.

Thanks heaps for sharing this with us! I loved this storyline💚✌

nice vid as always the kratos painting thing shows that he is a saviour and basically a god that is loved and respected by the 9 realms for saving them in ragnarok the love part is a callback to when odin says if kratos knows the feeling of people praying to him and loving him whcih they do now also his past changed he went from a destroyer to a saviour in a way hes the new all father now

Hi Marz and thank you for the new vid. Merry Christmas to you. I hope you had a good time with your family🥰

One of the best games ever! 🎮 Merry Christmas 🎄 & Happy New Year Marz! I wish he best for you and your family. Greetings 😊😌

Thank you for the video! Loved this story so much. 🎉

Wish i could go back and play this game again for the first time. Beautiful👏

@babybipazod8969

Жыл бұрын

You can?

The story/playthrough experience on Ragnarok was pretty cool, especially when switching to Atreus's perspective through out it all. Just a bit surprised at the length of the game. I'd favor Ragnarok as the GOTY but its a very slight edge over Elden Ring since that game had so many cool moments too... If ya feel like hacking and slashing again, there's always the huge side content in Vanaheim since a new region opens up over there late-game. Thanks for the streams and all the content you been putting out, Happy New Year!

I watched you play God of War Ragnarok live on twitch and I really enjoyed your playthrough 💯 and Merry Christmas and have a happy New Year.

Just finished the game a week ago. Such a great game!!! By the way you are one gorgeous lady @Marz ❤

Merry Christmas & Happy New Years Marz ❤

14:00 that pose. The eyework. It's sooooo C. Judge

Hello Mary! Merry Christmas I hope you had a wonderful holiday weekend with your family! I was just just thinking about you! Marz uploading a new episode! Happy holidays 💛

Hope you had a good holiday Marz this game was epic!! Can't wait for the next saga!👍🙏🙌

@arung6532

Жыл бұрын

@marz_officia-yt-via-tele-gram I don't use telegram or social media any more left about 1 year ago sorry, glad you enjoy my comments best of luck Marz!!😌🙏🙌🔥

And they didn't give this game the GOTY award. What a shame. This is GOTY in my eyes.

Great journey, Marz!

God playing this game was the best just like 2018 and the music was gorgeous but having to go at Brok funeral really was hard for me cause how much of a badass and funny dwarf he was cause he wasn’t afraid to say what was in his mind to kratos 😢 *For Brok* ✊

Great playthrough once again. Happy holidays everyone and cheers to 2023. Santa Monica Studios knocked this out the park

@TheOnlyTaps

Жыл бұрын

Btw the end game content is super dope, although probably wont be stream/youtube worthy but definitely fun if you end up going for the platinum on your own time :)

@TheOnlyTaps

Жыл бұрын

And apologies for the comment spam, but yo the Brok funeral had me in tears. And when i played it myself the first time i was unsure if SIndri was even gonna come for it given how much he was hurting but was a lovely moment and great sendoff for Brok. The voice actors, mocap team, design team, down to the music composition was so well done. Gotta take my hat off to Sony Santa Monica over and over again, its been dope to see PlayStation knocking so many sequels (sequel to the reboot that is even tho this was technically god of war 5) out the park time and time again.

it’s very sad to the soul when you get to know the characters for so long, spend time with them, but you have to say goodbye very soon

The snake that helps out during the final fight is the one Atreus put the giant soul in.

Love your Channel!

Love your content! :)

The Jörmungandr that fights Thor is the "new" one. He's a child at that point. The adult version is still in Midgard during this timeline.

"kratos you have to jump, you can't just stand there" Hmm, yeah blame the character

The Bard Dwarf uses the likeness of and is voiced by Bear McCreary, who is the main composer of the game. So when he says he made that dirge for Brok, he literally meant it.

I agree with the end fight. It never captured the OG trilogy fights with the gods, they were going for a more grounded vibe though compared to the originals. Very good storytelling though 👌

This game is awesome .I enjoyed your playthrough of the 2018 game as well.

2:02:15 What A Dark Sense Of Irony A Hole Is What Gets Bigger The More You Take Away Like The Large Hole In Sindri's Heart

The amount of times freya saved me in the bigh boss fights with her double sword special

Sindri destroying Odin's soul with Brok's hammer felt so damn good.

Nice game play Marzy!! ❤❤

Everyone: General. Freyr: Hey bud! I love Freyr lol

Thor’s battle with the world snake was so hard he sent him back in time to Midgard

They make you love brok more giving him so much moments. Should have known by that tbh

@jamaicaqueens22

Жыл бұрын

True. We fell for it😔

Merry Christmas marz. Anyways the distracting visuals and cinematics just awesome

@kematchdr

Жыл бұрын

Sorry dont have telegram

Kratos has grown more than any other character in any game I’ve ever seen. These games are so emotional more than any other I’ve ever played. The life lessons in this game are so good. For the normal people in the world saying how can a game make you get emotional… they just don’t understand.

Marz...you should play god of war 1 , 2 , and 3 to find out kratos(s) past. The 3 games is also good and has a very amazing fights and story.

Did you go back to Nilfheim and check on new area is Prison Wreckage? You may find someone very familiar.

@Knownasperry

Жыл бұрын

No, she basically stopped playing after this. Completely half assed the game she's been waiting 4 years for.

Hey Marz, I hope you had a wonderful Christmas :)

I'd hoped Mimir might get some kind of independence, instead of forever dangling on Kratos' butt cheek.

how bout poor poor brock, marz didn't seem too bothered by my boy being dead again.

I would've liked that Atreus be at Brok's funeral in some small capacity. I wouldn't have him as part of the group as I don't think Sindri would've been very happy to see Atreus there. But perhaps have him on a ridge overlooking the funeral and before Sindri vanishes, Atreus would change into his wolf form and give a mournful howl. A howl to say goodbye to both of his lost friends. Brok and Sindri.

"war can wait for two seconds" me if i was in war and found something shiny lol

What sucks is that it took seeing Sindri in that state for it to occur to Mimir that the answer was a hole.

I loved the fact that Sindri delivered the final blow in Odin, it was so unexpected yet it was set up so well. To watch him go from a comic relief character to a broken man was so tragic, but I loved it all the same.

Son of War Prophecy Truth Prophecy becomes the truth Prophecy becomes the truth A new journey A new dawn, a new journey A new sun rises On a new world A new beginning A new dawn The brave shall live forever A new sun rises On a new world A new beginning A new dawn With honor With dignity With heart The brave shall live forever These are the lyrics for the ending song letting go translated into English for those of you that are curious

This is the part of the game where I started to fall apart because I was terrified that my worst fears were about to come true when they went to get Oden. So happy it didn’t

Hi Marz. ! Stay warm, and put a blanket on Luka. ❤️

Let’s go new vid 😊

Hell yeah finally!!! I was just sitting in my chair completing my platinum for the game I have been waiting for this vid for days.

I love you and your channel 🥰

Does anybody think that Faye and Thor could be half siblings or possibly even twins? My theory is based off the fight at the Crater in Vanahiem. Thor choosing to side with Odin and the Aesir and Faye choosing to fight the Aesir on behalf of the Jotnar. It would explain the similarities between the two and why the were chosen to wield equally matched weapons. Perhaps that could have something to do with why Odin wanted to keep Thor from thinking too much and how poetic it would be that through Kratos, Faye was able to finally convince Thor to defy Odin. I'm think that was what she was trying to do by meeting with Thor in Vanahiem but failed and in her frustration with him attacked Thor which started that fight. This would also give purpose to Thrud and Atreus' relationship because that would make them cousins. What do yaw think?

The World Serpent is the Giant put in the small Snake, Mimir tell something about that after the end of the game. Thor send him into the past and this snake wait since Loki arrived for helping him. The famous battle Snake vs Thor was this battle.

1:19:56 Odin isn’t wrong about the wings part.

You gotta go back to the raven tree and do the Asgard rift there there is someone waiting for ya

Sindri must also be feeling the burden of not letting brok have an afterlife, because of his selfishness

Totally get Sindri's grief, but man...it's so sad to see him push away those closest to him. I get how he partially blames them, but it was just heartbreaking when Atreus said "I thought we were his family too" and Kratos says "We were."

The quote of this series: "I love Freya so much" 😂😊

Atreus after putting on the mask... "hold on suga, daddy's got a sweet tooth tonight"

That amazing games sounds good so emotional

to grief deeply is to have loved fully 😂😂😂 21:25

1:22:22 I guess Atreus wasn’t crazy about the idea of turning into Jim Carrey lol

Obviously the ending was perfect. We are the makers of our own fate and how it ends. We aren't born with a purpose that's a romanticize thing that people believe today. We go out there and we find that purpose and we write into it becomes our reality. Our lives our own, no one, No person or God or anything can tell or decide your fate that's all you. You gotta believe in your own power to make true the path you want if not then you will be a slave until you die. Fate only binds you if you let it.