I never was a vinyl guy. I bought records but I bought many more tapes. I got my first CD player in 1987 and I've never looked back.

@AndyBHome

5 ай бұрын

I literally bought a turntable for the purpose of borrowing records to record them onto cassette tapes. I didn't even record whole albums. I just recorded the hits. I didn't even listen to whole albums to decide what I liked. I ONLY recorded songs that I already knew from the radio. I was a kid.

I’m just glad there are physical media still available today. I prefer CDs over other mediums but I do buy vinyl records of albums I really like. Some albums, just don’t make the cut. 👍🏻

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

Same here

@robertquant1122

Жыл бұрын

Ima cd 💿 seller myself till this day 2023 and I’m never going to stop supporting artist and buying their 💿 The people that stream music are cheap and want everything for free and rely too much on their cheap ass earphone low sound quality and rent music 🎶 cheap ass phones😩😩😩 while we cd 💿 buyers support artist and own the music with better sound quality and keep the music forever 😅😊

@robertquant1122

Жыл бұрын

CDs 💿- buy 1 time yours forever Streaming -keep paying subscriptions of music u rent and never own 😅

I'm still buying CDs. They sound awesome no matter how many times you play it. I've owned vinyls before. Not a fan of the crackles and pops vinyl gives out which gets worse as time goes by. Love your channel!

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Rashid, glad you enjoyed the video. And I agree with you.

@robertquant1122

Жыл бұрын

CDs 💿 better sound quality u own the music and supporting the artist 👩‍🎨 Let’s keep physical media alive people 🤟🤟🤟🤟📀📀📀💿💿💿💿

@rafficrashid867

Жыл бұрын

@@robertquant1122 Yeah.. Let's keep the fire burning.

@gptjokes814

7 ай бұрын

I could show you 50 years old records without a crackle or pop. Depends on how you store and take care of them

@rafficrashid867

7 ай бұрын

@@gptjokes814 ❤️

I think Vinyl is just the "physical connection," where CD is the superior physical format...VINYL is just more of a 'niche' thing, rather than a 'preservation' effort (which would be better achieved by collecting CDs).

Finally someone looking deeper to provide some insights as to the potential uplift rather than just repeating numbers are up. Potentially reasons 1. Lower marketing investment towards CDs 2. Lower shelf space for cds Vs vinyl pushing users to vinyl 3. Limited releases and designs only on vinyl etc 4. Interest as vinyl being a collectible

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the support!

my vinyl collection goes back to the days when vinyl was the only game in town. You wanted music, you got vinyl. Nothing faddish about it. When CDs came out I started buying CDs as well. I enjoy both formats and do not compare them. Each format has something to offer me. As an early vinyl buyer I became a liner notes junkie. A source of great information for me. If I was a newbie today starting out I am not sure I would start a vinyl collection. It's a lot more expensive these days. Vinyl is a process that I don't think is for everyone, in the long haul. I know there are people out there that got rid of their CDs when they heard CDs were on the way out. I never understood that logic. So you keep or get rid of your collection based on a fad? That baffles me. My music collection is one of my most prized possessions. Great video!

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for enjoying the video. I feel the same way about people getting rid of their collections. Had I gotten rid of certain collectibles when they dipped in interest and value, I would have kicked myself. Music is timeless, and owning original physical media are the greatest ways to appreciate it.

@knockshinnoch1950

Жыл бұрын

And I remember all the lemmings who jumped off the cliff with their vinyl collections when CDs arrived on the scene. The more things change the more they stay the same. There is so much nonsense written about vinyl vs digital by people who either have a dog in the fight or based on other biased/partial truths. It should be remembered that when CDs were launched it was a golden opportunity for record labels to repackage legacy recordings making them available for the first time on CD at marked up prices- kerching! Same with the vinyl revolution. Money spinners

@nelsono4315

Жыл бұрын

@@knockshinnoch1950 right you are! I never compared the formats. I have had both for a very long time and enjoy both. I've have some of my vinyl records for 40-50 years old.

@sarahneedham

Жыл бұрын

I agree with this. I started getting into buying music 40 years ago and then it was mainly vinyl. CDs were around but in their early days. I then went over to CDs in the early 90s. I kept both my vinyl and CDs even when I stopped buying so much and started streaming more stuff. I still buy both formats though and love them both

@nelsono4315

4 ай бұрын

@@nicksterj back in the day $100 would get me maybe 20 albums. Today maybe 4 albums. I purchased a lot of promo copies which were essentially new albums without the plastic wrapping.

I grew up on Lps back in the 1970's. For all their drawbacks I cannot see going back to records. I love cds because I own it and the sound quality doesn't deteriorate. I also love listening to entire albums not just the hits. 😊

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

I agree. The sound quality of CDs is superior.

@robertquant1122

Жыл бұрын

Always and forever CDs 💿 better sound quality😮 streaming garbage and will never get to cd 💿 level

If we look at units sold CDs continued to outsell Vinyl albums here in the UK in 2022. Of course with Albums being sold at ridiculously inflated prices Vinyl outstripped CDs in monetary value. I've found that since embracing streaming rather than spending less on physical formats I have doubled the amount I spent on CD/SACD and other physical formats. That hunter gatherer gene is firmly embedded in our DNA. We have a very different relationship with the music we collect in a physical format- there is immense satisfaction at tracking down and purchasing the highly prized disc and the relationship/bond with the artist. That psychological bond just doesn't exist with streaming.

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

I completely understand. I can't look at my bookshelf and see a collection of digital streaming. I like looking up there and seeing a collection of music spanning decades.

The biggest obstacle to a major renaissance for the Compact Disc Digital Audio format is: sound quality of today's mass-market CD albums. This isn't because of the CD format and its truly amazing capabilities. This is because over the past 25 years, for most mainstream music recordings CD engineers have intentionally migrated to the "loudness war" mentality, eradicating the dynamic range with heavy brickwalling as well as altering the original recording's frequency response and spatial characteristics. While some contemporary vinyl LP releases are similarly clipped, some might not be and on others the loudness war compression is less audible due to the euphonic characteristics of LP playback. Does anyone seriously think the media Frankensteins who control over 85% of commercial music recordings would seriously commit to reissuing some CD titles with uncompressed dynamics and state-of-the-art TLC engineering? In the earliest years of the CD format, the purpose was to demonstrate that Compact Disc's PCM technology provided a wider dynamic range and less distortion than analog LPs, but starting in the mid-90s this philosophy was abandoned in favor of "let's make it louder" to play on a car stereo, boombox or CD discman. Since streaming has taken over the "portable" music scene, why not reinvent Red Book CD audio sound quality as a truly first-rate audiophile music format? The answer is: Universal Music Group, Sony Music et al.

@bsanchez3563

11 ай бұрын

Now thats confusing ngl imho

@joelfrombethlehem

10 ай бұрын

Thank you in a good way, the "loudness war" ruined the compact disc. It's time to return to the original compact disc standards and have the widest dynamic range possible for that particular recording. If I want it louder, I just turn up the volume.

@joelfrombethlehem

10 ай бұрын

@@bsanchez3563 Not confusing to me.

@guyboisvert66

10 ай бұрын

This is so true! They have to care more to put on vinyl providing it's a medium of inferior quality. That can explain some title can play sometimes a bit better on vinyl... That's such a shame when the CD media offers a 96 dB range, perfect channel separation, better sound quality, etc. There is still very high quality digital music recorded and mixed by competent sound engineers, too few though...

@mike_burke

9 ай бұрын

Brickwalling turned me off CD’s after years of collecting. Then it got even worse and turned me off music altogether. About 10 years ago, I started collecting again, but on vinyl, which is less affected, but not always so. Nothing in this world hurts my ears as much as brickwalled music. Insta headache. The problem is, how can you know, until you purchase? This is why I started to stream lossless. I skip the bad recordings and the good ones to my favourites. If I go on to love a recording, I will track down a physical copy. Almost always on vinyl, but on CD if the vinyl is hard to find, or too expensive. Hope this makes sense.

The CDs for my opinion is the best psycical format ever 💿❤

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@robertquant1122

Жыл бұрын

Thank u CDs 💿 all the way better sound quality cheaper price u support the artist and mostly important u own the music 🎶

I only buy CDS. I love them.

@Brian-qg8dg

2 ай бұрын

Problem with a modern CD, it sounds no different then the streaming version, and there will always be a way to make perfect one to one copy of the CD. But having the physical copy is still cool, so collect away. As for vinyl, in almost every case, the early vinyl pressing will blow away any modern CD, and usually better than the original CD. Plus there is money value in vinyl. Not saying that all CD's don't have value, but most do not, and never will. Again, since a CD can be copied perfectly, the sound of a CD will never need to be truly preserved.

I'm back to buying physical media. Mostly CDs, vinyl for some stuff. I'm done with lossy downloads (looking at you, iTunes) and "you will own nothing" cumbersome streaming.

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

Owning the music we pay for is #1

CDs sound a bit better to my ears, they are more durable & their storage is much easier. Plus they are (usually) much more cheaper. I just can’t imagine having all my music (5K+) on vinyl while still having a harmonious family life :D

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

It would probably take up most people's homes to store 5k+ albums.

@guyboisvert66

10 ай бұрын

With a quality DAC and a good sound system, playing high quality music on DC leaves vinyl in the dust (obviously, If the mix is the same and not contaminated by the STUPID loudness war!).

To get great sound from vinyl..you need 1: Great pressings ( I’ll leave the analog vs digital production chain fight for another time) 2: A good , let alone top line turntables are going to be surprisingly expensive..notice I didn’t include the arm and cartridge ( MM or MC) , head amp.. 3: They’ve charging PREMIUM prices for vinyl of questionable quality…are you buying a vinyl rip of a cd …the worst of all worlds. 4: CD transports hooked up to an ever improving DAC chain ..it’s always surprising what’s possible. 5 : This gets back to ..set up of the system digitally or analog sourced ..still needs a good set up ( in a room) to get the benefits of the recording. 6: Headphones, QUALITY, headphones and IEM’s can give you great sound without the set up of a good listing room..but you still need the sources and amplification chain sorted out. Great 👍 video.

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback, and I agree with you. I want to do a video about the digital to vinyl chain sometime soon...

@carminedesanto6746

Жыл бұрын

@@mykandrew After hearing high quality records ( mostly jazz and OST) ..you get a sense of why most modern recordings are lacking that certain something Btw, just watched M. Fremmer debut a $20k tone arm 😮

Enjoyed your presentation; well considered and well stated. I too love the cd format, and am pleased to spread the word. Your point about the collectability factor is well taken. I frequent flea markets, record shows and thrift shops, and also the local music stores. Hence my collection has expanded far beyond where it was during the cd's heyday. But as part of my search, I try to excite others about the advantages of the format...

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

I try and accomplish the same thing. What I would like for people to understand is that the world can coexist with streaming and physical media. Streaming is a great way to discover new music, and CDs are an excellent way to own the music they discover.

@robertquant1122

Жыл бұрын

Streaming is garbage 🗑 🤮🤮🤢🤢 that’s what killed the music stores made people lazzyyuy this new technology sucks. I miss the 1990 when Best Buy we’re so popular and CDs 💿 we’re the norm and artist made money off their CDs 💿. Music was meant to be bought and they made a huge huge mistake making cell phones have music and everything on their fingertips 😡🤬😡😡😡 I miss the old times when cell phones were basic and only were meant for calling people

Let’s not mention when you’re driving/ road trip and you hit a patch where there’s no signal, streaming is useless and you can’t play your records. CD is the go to.

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

😆 except Creed, I'll throw that out the window.

@robertquant1122

Жыл бұрын

CDs 💿 better sound quality and u own the music 😅

This is probably propaganda that the vinyl crowd put out to get people to pay those high prices. Don't believe it, CDs are the better buy.

@Harry-ck5rw

Жыл бұрын

I'm happy ,let them buy vinyl, than i can buy cheap cd's en enjoy my hobby on 1 euro until max 10 euro on a cd .

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@Spazza42

6 ай бұрын

The only time Vinyl is better is down to mastering. So many CD’s succumbed to the loudness war and clip beyond belief, most of my Vinyl rips are far more dynamic with better balancing.

@tegarachsendo9730

6 ай бұрын

​@@Harry-ck5rwhere here👍👍

@JohnLnyc

4 ай бұрын

Physical media is dying. There is no refuting the numbers. Technology drives all this. The CD vs Vinyl debate is really pointless. Records will hang around as collectibles. CD’s will not be produced. Time to “face the music”

Great video Mike! I am really enjoying my Audiolab 6000 CDT transport, THANKS for the recommendation! Last week I connected it to my new Schiit Audio Modius balanced DAC. Which is connected to my preamplifier via XLR cables. I started playing my best sounding CD’s. The clarity and detail is incredible. I have also noticed a slight uptake in dynamics compared to using my old DAC. Also an uptake in richness and fullness. Have an awesome week!😎

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy. Glad you are enjoying it! 😉

@robertquant1122

Жыл бұрын

CDs 💿 forever will always buy them sell them and support artist 🤟🤟🤙🤙📀📀📀💿💿 I’m not really a record guy

Vinyl overtaking CDs in overall sales is the sign - you better go and buy your used CDs, when they're still common and cheap on the market.

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

Agreed 👍

@Brian-qg8dg

2 ай бұрын

Although some CD's can be worth good money, or will become worth money, the fact that you can make perfect one to one copy, will always hinder the true need. And any new CD is basically no different than the stream.

I like buying CDs & LPs both. I have bought so much more music on CD over past few years due to their low used prices. They should completely get rid of jewel cases. I have always been drawn to CDs that came in interesting cases & covers. Tool had a really great example of that. Also, the boxed set of all Talking Heads CD was very cool!

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

I agree that packaging and marketing will have to be the first thing they focus on to make it into a collectible.

After getting into vinyl from 2012-2017 and buying almost 1,000 LPs, I have gone back to CD.

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

You have about $30k in vinyl over there!

@desmondagboada

Жыл бұрын

Can you please share why you went back to CDs?

@SonicHedgehog_290

Жыл бұрын

Can people just play there cd's on gaming consoles instead of boomboxes

@Albee213

9 ай бұрын

Same here, I started collecting LPs about 5 years ago and it was a good time. I was able to find lots of original stuff at decent prices. Now many have driven the price up and making it not worth it. Luckily I have just about everything I ever wanted on LP. So I turned to my CDs and I have purchased a few hundred in the last two years.

I stream mostly.. and get vinyl for the albums that are my absolute favorites that’ll listen to the full LP.. it’s in the process, and wanting to own something you consider special that streaming just can’t give you.. while I guess cds can give you that.. digital is digital.. vinyl while not the best quality gives you something different in sound… it’s own charm, physical.. seeing it spin.. the care you have to take.. my interest in it started in my early teens. My parents were helping clear out my grandparents house, and we ended up with their old record player with some of the vinyls. Mind you there were no speakers or amp… but I put one on and spun it.. the fact I could hear it like that did something in my brain.. I was amazed. In 2016 right after graduating high school I kept seeing things on the internet about vinyl coming back.. that experience I had before gave me an itch I had to scratch… got a $100 record player and $40 powered speakers… I was in love. I just recently got new equipment.. speakers, amp, sub etc.. vinyl for me was a gateway drug into music. I hope whatever format does that for the next generation is successful. CDs and tapes were around for my childhood and they just don’t do anything for me now.. maybe in 40 years that’ll change.

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

It's awesome that you were able to discover HiFi within your interest in vinyl. That's a special process not many younger people have the opportunity to discover these days.

Thanks for your thoughts. I’ve only really started collecting cd’s in the last couple of years. I’ve always bought records since I started collecting in the early eighties. But the cost of records new and particularly second hand has increased dramatically. I bought a beautiful hi end vintage cd player which is beautiful to look at, use and listen to. It gives me most of the sense of occasion I get from my turntable plus cd’s are a bargain at the moment. I particularly like to find early cd releases with the AAD spar code. A big factor that put me of the purchase of cd’s was the levels of compression used during mastering during the 90’s and 0’s but that trend seems to be thankfully going. All the best Giles in uk

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Giles. What's the model of the CD player you are using, just curious...

@gilesdavis6345

Жыл бұрын

@@mykandrew hi there. It’s a marantz cd94 and a cda94 dac, think there from around 1986-87.

I prefer to buy cd's, because their sound is so much better than vinyl. I still own my old vinyl but rarely buy new ones. Therefore my cd collection is still growing fast.....

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

Mine is as well, I have to come up with new storage solutions every time I go buy a haul lol

@robertquant1122

Жыл бұрын

I laugh 😂 because the more people stream There never ever going to own music while we in Hollywood aomeba records we buy music and support artist and care about owning music 😊

How did CDs wind up in a distant 3rd place? Two word answer: Loudness War. It is a rather delicious irony that the medium capable of the best dynamics and lowest distortion is being used to provide the worst.

@dtz1000

3 ай бұрын

CDs don't include the ultrasonic frequencies that are emitted by most musical instruments. Vinyl does include those frequencies. There is your explanation why CD is do unpopular and why vinyl is making a comeback. The solution is to add those missing frequencies back into low quality digital files to upscale them to better than CD quality, which you can easily do nowadays.

@Douglas_Blake_579

3 ай бұрын

@@dtz1000 Actually most phono cartridges top of at about 16khz. The disk itself is usually capped at about 12 or 13. CDs will get to 22khz, rather easily. And no I was not asking a question. Do you even know what the Loudness War was about? Do some searches, you're in for a real eye opener.

Availability & nostalgia is why! We got caught up in the vinyl crazy but have slacked way off this year. In a two year period, we amassed over 400 vinyl records. This year though, with prices going up on new & used vinyl, we went back to CDs for price, quantity & sound! I have noticed how more people are asking for CDs in our local record stores. One store that opened as a record only store has now, (in its short three years) has added CDs. People are coming back around because of price, quantity, size & sound. People are getting tired of paying $50 for a double LP when they can get the CD for $20 & not have to flip it over or switch it out! Used LPs went up as well but I see now stores are dropping the price on used. Saw two classic, late 70’s Rush used vinyl in great shape selling for $11 & &12! Just earlier this year those would have been at least $20 something or higher! We even had some stores do midnight release parties for Swift releases & the turnouts in their photos were nothing inspiring! People are getting burned out on cost & ridiculous re-recordings! The stores showed the massive overstock on these Swift releases & that alone tells you how they have over reacted to some of the recent surges in vinyl!

Yes im also a supporter of mom and pop record stores i love this stuff very passionate. I cant imagine a world without it

I used to work to Sam Ash Music store. Although we sold instruments people would sometimes come there thinking we sold cds. I am a collector of cds and vinyl. I have to stay out of the thrift shop I stay buying used cds 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. I think streaming is cool but I think physical copies is where it’s at. Just like you had vinyls then cassettes then cds you had an option of getting one or the other even all 3. The platform today is being played by various factors that kill artist sales. The physical copies will add up!!!!

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

I love thrifting some good CDs. 👍 it's hard to find them in mint condition, though. Even at record shops, I have noticed condition can be an issue.

I think the CD format was by far the best in terms of not only sound but physical size; durability; play length. The MiniDisc came a very close second.

@mrglasses8953

7 ай бұрын

DAT was second. In fact it had superior sound to CD.

My wife & I have a vast collection of both vinyl & CD's. I built a high-end system on a reasonable budget. Because CD's have a wider dynamic range compared to albums due to the groove spacing limitations, they have an advantage given the proper conditions using A&B comparisons. Because I'm pushing the optical output of the CD player through a Rotel 1590 preamp optical in I'm bypassing the inferior digital analogue converter on the cd player and the improved accuracy of the sound is startling. In the end we enjoy the Hell out of listening to the artists irregardless of the media's comments.

I only buy vinyl of albums I’d listen to in full, where nearly all the songs are bangers, with CDs it’s more streamlined and easier to skip songs and listen how you want (very similar to streaming)

Most places here stoped selling DVDs and CD in the same amounts over 2 years ago. You can get NEW recordings on CD from $5-8 AUD. Most big department stores stock Vinyl Records and Turntables speakers in the same area they have versions now available

You hit tha nail with one word : Trend. CD all the way for me.

Streaming is king and CD sound much better than vinyl. Bad sounding LP´s are only just nostalgic nerd stuff. I hate my 2.000 heavy weighted vinyls. Now I´m mostly a streaming and CD guy.

Vinyl is winning the battle in the US but not anywhere else. In 2023, new CDs outsold new LPs in the UK, Germany, Japan and Australia. I bought my first record in 1981 and have never stopped. My first CD in 1986 and never stopped. Both formats are great.

I think it depends on how you interpret the statistics. As in dollar amount vs. physical count.

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

This study was done in physical count. However, vinyl will normally win if we talk about revenue because of their current market price.

I few months ago, I purchased the Who's Next/Life House Super Deluxe box set on CD format. It would have taken more than 25 vinyl LPs to have all the material in the aforementioned 11 CD Who set. One gets more bang for the buck with CDs. Although I love both vinyl and CD formats, many vinyl purists are waking up the fact that digital can sound just as good as analog sources and usually better. It all depends on how the recording is remastered. More and more box sets, and reissues in general, will be using digital one-steps as the arduous task & cost of baking original analog tapes is becoming less financially feasible for record companies. The CD format will live!

Love the art work with vinyl. The album covers are awesome.

It’s a bit different here in the U.K. I’d say CDs are still holding their own, going on shelf space in a major record store. Good point about secondhand, there seem to be people dumping their CDs just like vinyl in the 90s. Loads in charity shops and I bought about 300 in 2022, so I’m not complaining! Ebay too. But like you say, good to see people are still into physical media in whatever form! 😀

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback, and yes, I agree. Finding some gems at charity shops or car boot sales can be quite rewarding.

@andygilbert1877

Жыл бұрын

@@mykandrew Ah…I draw the line at car boot sales. Too early on a Sunday for me! 😆

There was a slogan on TV when I was a little guy-- "What this country needs is a good 10 cent cigar!" Now I think we need a good $100 CD player, similar to the cheap Crosleys & Victrolas. There are a few decent, nice-looking ones available online, but I don't see stores stocking them. I'm not sure what most people use to listen to music when they aren't driving or using earbuds or headphones, but I do have a tabletop CD spinner from Como Audio (not inexpensive & now discontinued).

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

Go to your local thrift stores, there are always good options for CD Players in the $15-30 range

@patbarr1351

Жыл бұрын

@@mykandrew I don't think thrift stores will attract as many people looking to get into CDs the way a new player in a music store, dept. store electronics aisle, or best Buy would. Plus, if the thing doesn't work, they can't return it. That might put people off the idea of starting a CD collection.

@jerryspann8713

6 ай бұрын

Why in the world don't they just use a $29 DVD player? I know, because most of these machines don't have a track display.

When it comes to ease of purchase, CDs are generally easier to buy compared to vinyl records. CDs have a wider availability and can be found in various music stores, department stores, and online platforms. They are often produced in larger quantities and have standardized packaging, making them more accessible for consumers. On the other hand, vinyl records may require more effort to find and purchase. They are often sold in specialized record stores or through online marketplaces dedicated to vinyl collectors. Vinyl records have seen a resurgence in popularity, but their limited production numbers and niche market make them less readily available compared to CDs. That being said, the availability of both formats can vary depending on your location and the specific titles you're looking for. It's always a good idea to explore different sources and platforms when searching for either CDs or vinyls to ensure you find what you're looking for.

Most if not all new vinyl record masters available in stores now are from a digitised source. You are only paying for the needle and groove veneer in most cases. In some cases where the album has a hot mix, the vinyl mastering can be more articulate and less distorted than the cd counterpart, but in most cases you are going to get higher fidelity audio via your cd for a fraction of the price. If you want a warm analog sound feom your cds you can always invest in a vintage hifi set up or a tube amp or tube DAC. CD can be easily ripped and stored on phone etc too.

I actually own a few cd's because there was no vinyl release for certain album. I like cd's, but one of the huge reasons I enjoy vinyl so much is holding the jacket and appreciating the artwork while I'm listening to it. Everything is bigger and the lyrics are easier to read, you can see more detail. If cd's were more like laserdisc or something I would probably prefer them, but cd's are just too small to enjoy for me. I might as well just listen to the wav file and look at the art online, but that's just way too disconnected for me.

i started buying CDs in the 90s when i was 12 years old and been collecting em ever since, i never cared for vinyl and never will to me its a inferior format in every way. I remeber listening to a friends dads vinyls once and it was the worst listening experince i ever hade. so i stick with my CDs and keep collecting em. =)

Here's a good one I witnessed firsthand... Dude walks into the local record shop with a box of used CDs. Wants to trade. The shop owner offers the dude $30 in trade for a box of approximately 35 CDs. Customer enthusiastically accepts the offer because he doesn't want those crappy CDs.... he only buys "vinyls" now. Dude picks out a new copy of The Beatles Abbey Road on vinyl. Store owner trades him even up. That's 30-35 CD's for one $32.95 LP. From that box of used CDs, I picked up Rolling Stones Exile on Main Street, Steely Dan's Gaucho, Santana III, and a couple of others for $3 each. I'd like to say that's unbelievable, but I understand that is the norm these days. For me, it will always be about the music, not the music delivery system.

100%, used is huge on both platforms. I fire up the loudness wars database and check on just about every album I buy for both CD/Vinyl. Then buy the best that fits my budget best. But if it close or equal I almost always end up with the CD or SACD as they are generally much cheaper than the vinyl version and generally in better condition. Many new CD's and Vinyl pressing are terribly compressed junk version of their former selves as well. Look at 1990 CD of Razors Edge vs 2003 "remastered" CD, the newer one is just completed garbage.

i've just played PJ HARVEY CD on my old Panasonic stereo. Felt so good.

At same hifi show I was at a headphone demo who were streaming. Struggled to find the tracks I want! Go figure lol Streaming fails for me in so many ways.

Hi I enjoy both physical media so I collect vinyl records and CDs plus they sound much better than my Spotify streaming service, I only use my streaming services for listening music in my car, at home I like to play a nice vinyl record or play CDs I love my collection of vinyl and CDs and I will never stop buying them, thanks and peace ✌️

@mykandrew

6 ай бұрын

I feel the same way!

I purchase and listen to both CD's and vinyl, they both have their pros and cons, but ultimately both have a position in the marketplace, physical media for me is superior to streaming.

Vinyl beat CD's in revenue generated only....cd's outsold vinyl in unit volume. Records are 2-3x more expensive than cd's which is why they won.

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

If they considered the used market CDs would have spanked vinyl in both units and revenue...

@AmyRose-1gv7ej2j

Жыл бұрын

Lol No it didn't cds are Obviously better than vinyls. It can be played on xbox lop

I really don't think you got my message. CDs may not have lost ground to vinyl after all. Vinyl sales are in store sales, almost always. CD sales are mostly online sales. It could be that CDs held their own or maybe even exceed vinyl. There needs to be a lot more homework.

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely Jerry, that's one of the first points I address in the video. I totally agree 👍

Like I said, let Best Buy stop selling CDs. I'll just buy online. That'll teach 'em!😅

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

They won't learn until they close the doors lol

@jerryspann8713

6 ай бұрын

Now they're trying to kill 4k bluray.

I am a lifelong vinyl collector but, the ever escalating prices of vinyl is an outright gouge. With many of the labels there seems to be almost zero quality control. It's as though the pressing factories are just cranking out product pell-mell with little regard to quality. I still buy vinyl (though only when I really, really want something on vinyl) but last year I bought an Audiolab 6000 cdt and started buying cds again. I am not an "either/or" snob but, if vinyl prices continue to climb i will be forced to buy cds exclusively.

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

I agree that there isn't value in spending 30 or 40 on a vinyl record. You aren't getting your money's worth.

CDs did not outsell and largely replace LPs in record stores until the late '80s and early '90s. I remember when they filled the LP bins in Tower Records on Sunset Blvd. with CDs in long-boxes, and then got rid of the old bins for CD shelves. Those were major remodeling operations. What we're seeing now is a repeat of what happened in the mid-'80s, only in reverse. Back then, there was a race to build and revamp factories to manufacture CDs (for a few years, they came almost exclusively from West Germany -- yes, that was a thing -- and Japan because the US had so few CD-pressing plants), which drove up prices. Now it's the same kind of thing in reverse. I'd love to know what domestic CD production growth and capacity are in, say, 2020-2024 compared to all the facilities that have (re-)opened to press vinyl LPs.

@Brian-qg8dg

2 ай бұрын

The record labels could make more money off a CD, so they started pushing vinyl out.

Gee...to heck with CD's and LP's, I'm waiting for the cassette revolution to commence. My vintage Nikko deck is starved for fresh material! I'm amazed at times how well 'some' mass produced cassettes sound in comparison to CD's and Vinyl. Why not bring back the 8 track tapes seeing it actually was a better format than cassette. Hey we can dream can't we? Now if I can only find another old Pioneer 8 track player with Dolby NR and those VU meters.🤔

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

You'd be surprised how many artists have been releasing cassettes lately.

The pony reference gave you the like from me but other than that it was a still an enjoyable watch

I love cds. The ubiquity of streaming combined with vinyl resurgence has led them to be considered worthless from a monetary stance. Great news for collectors. I found the first 6 White Stripes albums in near mint condition in a charity (thrift) shop yesterday. Total price for all 6 discs: £2 ($2.50 usd). Although I gladly give £138 a year to Apple for hi res and cd quality streaming.

Love both cd and vinyl 😍

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

It's always great to support all physical media!!

CD's just aren't a collectible item in the same way vinyl is. Regardless of audio quality, a big record sleeve is way more visually appealing than a tiny CD case.

Today, when digital music is used everywhere and has unsurpassed quality and unsurpassed capabilities, it is completely stupid to revive expensive and primitive vinyl !

@jerryspann8713

6 ай бұрын

The music industry bought back this dinosaur because CDs were to perfect. You can make 1:1 copies of CDs without any loss whatsoever. Vinyl degrades and even if copied, will never be as good as a copied CD. Especially if your playback device is a junky Crosely Cruiser.

It is always new item for which the data comes never used. Now what I don't think they count iin cd's and Lp's is media sold at concerts and local and independent artist and from artist websites. It would also be nice if Record Store day would put out more cd's that day. Or do a Cd day They will sell.

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

I would LOVE a CD day!!!!

thank u sir

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

You are very welcome 🙏

I refuse to pay 30 to 60 bucks for a vinyl record that I used to buy for less than 10 bucks in the past !

CD/LP sales are just 10% of their peaks. The problem with both formats is that if you do not pick them up as they are released, buying used will cost you the same or more than original price. This is unheard of in the past. This has actually caused me to buy more music even if I do not have time to listen to it. Now this does not affect older CDs as much, but newer used releases are priced way to high and then you add in shipping if your buy from eBay or Discogs and it can be very frustrating.

I heard that most of young generation who buy vinyl doesn't even own vinyl player. that makes sense to me. everyone loves big album art from vinyl. tbh CD should do that too. CD with same big size vinyl sleeves (with extra jewel cases). that makes me wanna buy cds more.

Physical media give the listener full and permanent access control. When a streaming service drops an artist or album; you lose access to that until the distribution rights are picked up by another streaming service, that is IF they even decide to make it available again (ever). When a record label drops an artist or stops pressing an album, I have yet to see a representative come knock on my door and demand the CD back. Vinyl may lose its appeal once the new fans of that medium realise it deteriorates when played a lot. Collectables exist in both formats; some limited edition or out of print CDs also cost a fortune on the used market.

Has vinyl taken over CDs in units sold or gross sales in dollars? Records cost more than CDs typically.

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

Gross sales, it will never touch CDs in units sold.

@ericjensen9091

Жыл бұрын

@Mike On Audio Thanks, Mike.

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

@@ericjensen9091 you're welcome

@SonicHedgehog_290

Жыл бұрын

Yes probably

With the releases of Earbook CD, Vinyls have nothing left for them.

I am certainly buying more CDs than I am able to listen to. Maybe one day I'll catch up!

I must talk about another format, the cassette. It can fill a need that CDs can't. Sure, CDs sound better, no doubt about it. But you can't record on a CD like you can a cassette player. They're much less expensive than vinyl too

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

I'd rather do VHS tapes than cassettes. Much better quality. Watch my new video on the subject!!

@bichela

8 ай бұрын

I used to make lots of mix tapes. I would still do it, if I had a cassette deck

I buy CDs because it's an objective fact they are the ultimate and best sounding way of listening to anything, beating out digital, cassette, and vinyl. I will say vinyl is cool and novel, and can look awesome in a collection, but it's also typically insanely expensive, requires at least minimal levels of upkeep (unlike CDs), and is inferior sound wise to CD and subjectively digital.

I love CD, see the booklet and all is awsome but I think that in the last years theres not a big investment in booklet art like it was in the 90s, and besides music the art in the album was a great plus, booklets with a lot of pages, nowadays is just 1 or 2 pages and thats it, no lyrics nothing.

I think CD is a fantastic medium, but also not perfect. Technically it might be pretty much perfect, but the simple fact that physical media is less convenient to actually play than network streamed data means that ultimately my interest lies in owning, or at least being able to own copies of songs that I can put on players of my choosing. I want real ownership and not just renting for the rest of my life for certain albums or songs. I but vinyl to this day for the reason that I can have a copy that can't be retracted or the price of access going up every year. CDs WOULD be better, but every CD player I've ever owned has eventually died and I'm told it's because the lasers burn out just like lightbulbs. My record player from the early 70s still works. It's been fixed, but it COULD BE fixed. None of my CD players could be fixed at any price. I have no functioning standalone CD player at this time. I will get another, but ugh.

One of CDs biggest problems right now is the lack of new high quality CD players more new high end players need to re - made also the used quality CD players market is drying up fast this need to change fast or there be No good quality players out there to play the CDs this fact has been so over looked for a number of years now

@jerryspann8713

6 ай бұрын

I use a 4k bluray player to listen to CDS 💿. The player can also play SACDs.

The Japanese 7inch sacd hybrid has it right.. big package and quality sound...if cds went bigger in packaging they would be all set ..simple but costly fix i guess

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

I'd be willing to spend an extra couple dollars for a more memorable and collectible experience

@JOcasio1977

Жыл бұрын

@@mykandrew as would i.i own Miles Davis bitches brew and its an amazing packaging experience..ill join you in starting the revolt!!

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

@@JOcasio1977 let's do it!

CD manufatcturers need to get rid of the jewel case. They crack easily. Paper based cases are much better.

Additional info- the 2 most recent No1 albums on the UK Album charts in late May 2023 saw the physical sales split spectacularly in CDs favour. Less Capaldi's "Broken By Desire To Be Heavenly Sent" (yeah a ridiculously pompous title) TOTAL SALES- 95,882- Physical sales- 79,147 breaks down by format- CD- 58,421 & Vinyl 18,308, Cassettes 2,418. Downloads 4,834. Sales equivalent streams 11,901. So CD's are a dead format? Nobody buys CDs anymore? Everyone streams now? Total nonsense.

The vinyl says is a fraction to Spotify subscription fees..

I don’t buy CDs. I do not even have a CD player anymore. Or Cassettes or 8 tracks. All I have is two record players. I do listen to music on YT but I prefer LPs Yes, CDs have their advantages but I just like vinyl better.

When they say that vinyl outsells CDs they're probably talking about in store sales. They're not talking about on online sales. Very few cassettes are sold in stores. Most are sold on line, and the same can probably be said about CDs. For one thing, they're cheaper, especially with used CDs. Don't be surprised if CDs actually outselsl vinyl, especially given the prices. Could be that another myth just got busted.

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree 👍

@robertquant1122

Жыл бұрын

It also depends on the CDs 💿 and we’re u buy them The old music is harder to find and it’s super expensive

@jerryspann8713

6 ай бұрын

Somebody higher up is pushing this bullcrap about vinyl being superior. The music industry doesn't want you to own CDs because they can be easily copied without any loss of quality. If the music industry is allowed to add DRM to CDs then suddenly they will reappear.

Now CDs are back😀

A lot of cds that are now pressed from remasters. When I compare them to the original cds (original masters) at least 95% of those remasters sound compressed... louder but worse then the originals...

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

That's why I avidly look for CDs with the AAD symbol. That's the tell, that the CD will sound pretty darn good.

One word: Mastering

I didn't exactly freak out when they said vinyl outsold CDs. If people have the money to throw away, that's their business. I go for CDs and cassettes. I've learned not to get fooled with my money. Remember 8-track tapes? That was a complete ripoff. Jerry

Good thing that linkin park bix set in your thumiail has both 5 cds and 4 binyl

Keep buying vinyl for $30+ and I'll continue to buy your CDs for a dollar. But don't worry, I'll sell them back to you in a few years for $20+.

The music industry wants us to buy vinyl, just consider their price for starters and the fact many buy the vinyl and then the streaming copy on top. Every Saturday afternoon I sit in the pub waiting for those newbies to walk in with this weeks vinyl purchases as if its xmas every weekend, there like big kids with their presents. But those new vinyl are not old vinyl, there not analogue and there just not the same as the originals. I am not saying there better or worse, cos I have bought a few, but in the end there almost all sources from the same original recording master tapes. So why buy the new ones and not the originals?? As for the "new stuff" or new artists, na no thanks, I don't have time and already own a large catalogue of original vinyls and a few re-released just to keep some collections complete of all vinyls ever released.

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

I am curious why people buy vinyl created from a digital recording.... isn't the allure of vinyl supposed to be an ALL analog chain?

@uselessoldman7964

Жыл бұрын

@@mykandrew For me I find some original vinyl just did not transfer to digital very well and sound plain bad. This is specific to UK Punk and some heavy metal, for some reason they just sound better on vinyl, rough and ready

Vinyl is seen as cool. My kids buy vinyl at concerts, but they never listen to them! They are happy with KZread Music.

Because people keep burning cds there's no profit unlike vinyl plus beauty large cover is nice!

"Vinyl was never any good." Rudy Van Gelder

CDs are a format that's never going to come back, and there's nothing that will change that. LPs are the '20s Funko Pops, driven by people buying five different versions of Taylor Swift's last album they'll never listen to.

Lucky for those who know

Brick and mortar retailers pushed vinyl. Look at what Best Buy did by quit selling the format. And these shitters are trying to do the same with 4k movies.

Video Killed the Radio Star.

Did you get this info from Darko's channel?

@mykandrew

9 ай бұрын

I've been preaching about CDs long before him. I'm flattered that I was able to inspire the movement. Just because a channel is bigger doesn't make the creator the one who originates the content. Thanks for watching! Hope you subscribe so you can see new thoughts and theories here first!

that’s not true vinyl is heavier not convient for on the go no skip protection worse quality bad for the environment takes up a lot of space and big record players cost more than a simple cd player

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

Were you just reading the title and commenting from that?

@Jordan-fn5rj

Жыл бұрын

@@mykandrew vinyl sucks! cds>vinyls

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

@@Jordan-fn5rj I agree!

Love physical media. Sadly, I don't know if physical media for movies and games can ne saved in the long run. It seems to be a different thing there. Especially gaming, I mean there is almost no game anymore that you can actually own physically, cuz you still need to download parts of it or so. :(

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

They have literally extorted gamers so badly its sad. As a gamer myself, I think it's very disappointing that I can't just go out and buy a game, play it, beat it, and move on. There are so many pay walls now it's so sad.

I still buy many collectors cd’s from artists I like, as well as collectors vinyl but listen to most things on streaming

@mykandrew

Жыл бұрын

That's what I have been pushing for. Make the CD into a collectible that's desired, and we will get our format back.

I went to a very hi end audio show in IK recently and was surprised to see that vinyl systems were by far the most common. There was one turntable that cost £70,000.

@guyboisvert66

10 ай бұрын

People can buy the hype no problem! Spending that kind of money on a lesser and crippled format is hilarious!

@Coneman3

10 ай бұрын

Wrong vinyl can be as good or better than CD.

@guyboisvert66

10 ай бұрын

@@Coneman3 Yes if the recording and the mix is bad and/or you use a lower quality soundsystem / bad listening room...