I'm from West Virginia, and the number of people who say "Oh I know someone in Richmond! ” when I tell them is too damn high.

@humanmonsters

3 жыл бұрын

Or Winchester.

@VIpanfried

3 жыл бұрын

Same here!

@matthewbeaver5026

3 жыл бұрын

'No I didn't say western Virginia. I said West Virginia! The worst is the weather channel calling us western Virginia all the time..

@humanmonsters

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewbeaver5026 Exactly! I usually have to say something like.. "No, no... it's *West* Virgina. You know like North and South Carolina? West Virginia is it's own state. " " Ohhhhh..... " ( * Still doesn't actually get it * )

@ToolforOffice

2 жыл бұрын

@@humanmonsters I gotta drive there to get sonic. Wtf is everyone's problem with sonic up here?

This is an interesting presentation of a relatively little known facet of American history, how West Virginia came into being. Unfortunately any reference to a seminal event is left out, which was Nat Turner's Rebellion in 1831. Virginians in all parts of the state were shocked and frightened, and they in their perplexity called into being a secret session of the Virginia Legislature. In that closed to the public session the legislature had a no hold barred debate where slavery in all of its aspects was debated. In fact for a time it almost appeared that a majority of legislators would favor some form of abolition combined with sending away forever from the state its Black population, so great was the fear aroused. As it turned out, slavery went on for another 34 years, but if it had been abolished in the 1830's in all of Virginia that event would definitely have changed the course of American history.

@linnymaemullins3319

3 жыл бұрын

👍

@donaldschmidt2990

Жыл бұрын

It's a tragedy that states rights were so divisive it literally split a state! The horror of slavery was all pervasive. From its subjugation of an entire race, to the 600,000 soldiers on both sides that died in its name. Defending it and rising against it. In the dying words of John Brown, "I am now certain that the sins of this guilty land can only be washed away in blood." While Brown was a radical, at its heart his cause was as noble as any ever fought for. While the true criminals were the slave owners and the Outlaw government that sanctioned it. Jefferson Davis may as well be akin to Adolf Hitler as a true Anti-Christ. Like the KKK, the Confederacys ideology matched the Nazis in every way. Anyone differing from me in any fashion is to be suppressed. In one way Davis was even worse. He was hypocritical enough to send prayers to a Christian God to sanctify his prejudices. These men weren't heroes. They were less than zeroes.

@dsxa918

Жыл бұрын

Significance of the abolition of slavery, understood, "state's rights" came down to many other things, too. It's more rationale in my opinion, to look at the civil war as an affirmation of what the American Revolutuin was originally over, more than the emotional disgust with, and logical revulsion to, slavery.

Thanks for taking the time to make the video. I found it very informative.

Most people don't realize how large a state Virginia really is. It's westernmost point, in the Cumberland Gap, is much west of West Virginia and as far west as Detroit !

@edwardprice140

3 жыл бұрын

If WV was flat, it would be bigger than Texas ! And on Christmas our population is greater than NY.

@timothykeith1367

3 жыл бұрын

Southwest Virginia should be a part of Kentucky.

@paulstatz5188

11 ай бұрын

You are aware Canada is south of Detroit right?

I am a native West Virginian and your information is absolutely accurate; however, Steven Danis comment is also correct.

@williampierce4513

2 жыл бұрын

I know people talk shit about your state, but I have ridden a train and drove through west virginia several times. It has a rustic and quiet appeal. The scenery is also gorgeous in the rural parts. Be proud of your state, dawg

Some of the rural, conservative counties of Virginia who feel that the dominance of liberal Northern Virginia on Virginia politics have shut them out have expressed interest in merging with West Virginia. Many of us in Western Maryland would like to do the same.

@brianarbenz1329

3 жыл бұрын

Lots of states have political enclaves that feel this way, like the heavily Democratic parts of Northern and Southern Indiana in a state controlled by the wealthy Central interests. And Louisville is shut out by wealthy Central Kentucky interests. If everybody did what these rural Virginians want to do, most states would be redrawn.

@buck546

3 жыл бұрын

We would love to have you.

@DavidSmith-sb2ix

3 жыл бұрын

@@buck546 I'd love to change my address to Hagerstown, West Virginia.

@williammullen7504

3 жыл бұрын

@@DavidSmith-sb2ix Then you could Marry your Sister-Cousin.

@DavidSmith-sb2ix

3 жыл бұрын

@@williammullen7504 First cousins can marry in Maryland and Virginia but NOT in West Virginia.

Thanks for all your work on these posts.. love howdie doodie in the background nice touch!

@burtbenz9964

3 жыл бұрын

Thats funny the guy is comedy. Captain. There probably are more gems in the studio .o yea history is awesumm

This video helps explain why the West Virginia and Baltimore accents sound so similar - because they've been closely trading and been in business with each other for a couple of centuries.

@Caveman_ultra

2 жыл бұрын

Bub I don't know what part of WV you've been to but I think you looked at your map wrong

Great video. Very informative with great analysis

After see the " Free State of Jones, I started looking into how many confederates or southerners didn't like the CSA Government. It turns out A LOT. There were areas in NC, TN, Northern AL, MS that I have found. Not to mention they provide units who fought for the North. Southerners who were not happy with the CSA government seems to be the elephant in the room. The Confederate government strongly favored the planter class and the yeoman farmers were screwed

@outdoorlife5396

3 жыл бұрын

@ItsStaticc-_- I get so tired of the great loss cause, the SCV and DOC etc. Making the mess out to be saint hood

@ChrisBrown-hr6mc

3 жыл бұрын

@@outdoorlife5396 Grow some balls and be real men your two inch's away from being a women

@outdoorlife5396

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisBrown-hr6mc Some people that would know we say I had balls, I fought in two invasions Grenada and Panama and the first Gulf War. I saw my share of the shit

@ChrisBrown-hr6mc

3 жыл бұрын

@@outdoorlife5396 What is that supposed to be impressive? Your just a corporate robot who fought to make the rich more powerful by stealing oil and other resources

@outdoorlife5396

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisBrown-hr6mc No, I was just letting you know I had bigger balls at 19 than you ever will. You sir are keyboard warrior.

Cool stuff, I love history. The thumbnail pic of John Brown caught my eye. He was my 4x Great grandfather on my dad’s maternal side.

@STho205

3 жыл бұрын

He chopped off heads snd body parts with a broadsword you know.

@djbeezy

3 жыл бұрын

@@STho205 So? Things were much different back then.

@anniestark7612

3 жыл бұрын

Hello there, cousin!

@joshuachase5290

3 жыл бұрын

@@STho205 If you are referring to the Pottawatomie massacre, I’m pretty sure it was his son’s that did the killing with the ol broadsword. Also he was hung in 1859 for his crimes that did not include the aforementioned👍🏻

@speedbuggy16v

3 жыл бұрын

@@STho205 from the bodies of would be slavers............. I fail to see the problem

Very thorough! Nice job!

Excellent stuff bro

My great Granddad Taylor Shrout was from Romney West Virginia and lived well pass 100 years old. When the Eternal flame was dedicated at Gettysburg all survivors of the war were invited (The exact date of this I do not remember) Well the old boys counted survivors and the score was just about even. When Taylor arrived they asked where he was from and he told them Romney West Virginia. The the Confederates got excited, excited that is until they learned he was a drummer boy for the Union Army. The split between the two states was a little jagged at best.

@jayweston6893

2 жыл бұрын

Paul Brown are you from Romney as well? Was your father a doctor there?

Thank you this some information that I already have. But more importantly it gave me more information about something that I never thought about.

Thanks. Insightful history.

This is a terrific presentation backed by a phenomenal amount of research. Thank you! @AscendWV @wvtourism

Very much enjoyed the history lesson.

I'm a high school drop out and come from a family that's all from west Virginia and I've always watched @grunge and learn alot and feel really more proud of my background my family tree and anstestery..

@pablohammerly448

2 жыл бұрын

@Jay_lean Jaylean: West Virginia (always capitalize West to avoid WV getting confused with western Virginia); ancestry* (use spell-check whenever you can, even though it sometimes makes mistakes). I've always lived in Virginia -- my first language was Spanish that I learned from my immigrant parents, but I eventually became an expert in English, working as a proofreader and typesetter and volunteering as an editor and ESL (English as a Second Language) teacher.

@tropicaltundra6409

2 ай бұрын

cant feel too proud if youre a high school drop out

How about a video about the narrator kinda curious about him. I learned tad bit about the split between the 2 states in middle school. Knew little about the split but this video did an amazing job on actually giving more facts.

I was born and raised in WV (settled in VA after I got out of the Army) and I have been all over the US and parts of Canada and Mexico. I also traveled to several other countries while in the Army and I have never met anyone who didn't know that WV was a separate state. I think the confusion comes in when someone says they are from southern or south West Virginia. Virginians also refer to the Bristol area as southwest Virginia. South West Virginia vs. southwest Virginia. If you tell someone you are from south West Virginia they might be hearing southwest Virginia.

@charlestredway8253

3 жыл бұрын

I would choose my words to say that I am from the Southwestern part of West Virginia. Or I would say the I am from the western part of the State of Virginia.

@hansvandermeulen5515

3 жыл бұрын

How about east West Virginia?

@davidtuttle7556

3 жыл бұрын

@@hansvandermeulen5515 most would say eastern West Virginia or the Panhandle.

@hansvandermeulen5515

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidtuttle7556 thanks.

@pattywolford

3 жыл бұрын

Kenny Hale. I heard that a lot when I lived in Abingdon, VA. I m a native West Virginian.

Very thorough and clearly explained.

Surprised there was no mention of the B&O Railroad. AS a reason the eastern panhandle was included with the western counties and guarded by the federal army.

@wv171

3 жыл бұрын

True B&O was huge prize.

@tedellis3018

3 жыл бұрын

@@wv171 "prize" is not exactly the best description. The B&O mainline used the south bank (of Potomac R.) route from Harper's Ferry to Cumberland (MD). Always did. It was vital infrastructure and the most important link to the western states from the east. It was more important to the federal government than the armory. The RR was repeatedly rebuilt during the war. The armory was not - ever. The eastern panhandle was solidly (politically) aligned with the confederacy, despite MANY federal loyalists. Some believe the B&O is the primary reason the U.S. government encouraged and welcomed WV back into the fold. They were complicated times with many twists and turns. I grasp the need to condense "history" for the modern audience who demand a postage stamp explanation. Such attempts cannot by their very (brief) nature tell the whole long, complicated, story though. Nice presentation otherwise.

Good job!

It was Not "The separation of church and state", but "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;..."

@fkujakedmyname

3 жыл бұрын

so when do i get freedom from crackpot religion

@fredrickmarsiello4395

3 жыл бұрын

@@fkujakedmyname Perhaps Russia?

Cool video, schools in WV should show this to their students

@abcertweld

3 жыл бұрын

LMAO Schools in WV don't have to. They go more in-depth about WV history than this video.

@abcertweld

3 жыл бұрын

@Who Cares while you jest. You do realize a whole lot of those NASA engineers that designed the rockets were from WV. Yep just stupid rocket science.

@sarahlane1158

3 жыл бұрын

I like how people from Virginia talk about West Virginia but they're the ones that actually it's illegal in their state to marry their first cousin laugh my ass off

@abcertweld

3 жыл бұрын

@Who Cares funny Independent Hill in Virginia there are actually inbred families. That's right off of 234 between Quantico and Manassass.

This is my first time seeing the announcer. I always just thought of him as a disembodied voice.

My father and his family are all from God bless West by God Virginia. Some of the most beautiful country on God's green earth.

Interesting Collection of objects on the bookshelves. WV got their autonomy but the result wasn’t so great in the long run - a poorer section split away from potential help of the East. (If they could have overcome the Eastern discrimination of the West), In Florida history 1865-1970 the panhandle to Jacksonville took the lions share of road building and stuff at the expense of the peninsular section.

Lots of generalizations here that skew the story and reality. . The vote to secede was severely skewed by limitations on who could vote and requirements by the secessionist government for people to vote publicly meaning everyone knew where the stood. This severely limited voter turnout to less than 10% in some counties. While there were significant differences between the two main regions of Virginia, research shows most people did not want to be a part of this extreme movement. it was a smaller group of folks in power in the interim government who successfully abused voter rights to turn the tide their way. The real story here requires a deeper dive and you can let the voter regulations put in place and the voting records speak for themselves. I only discovered this a few years ago and my mind was blown and my understanding of the story completely altered. .

Before the Revolutionary War, my ancestor William Morris was the first permanent settler in present day Kanawha County. He & all 8 of his sons fought in the war. His descendants here in WV fought on both sides of the Civil War. I’ll never move away from here again.

As a West Virginian, I must say excellent work.

an interesting bit of US history but a bit too simplified and over-stated. The 5% did not own "Everything" despite having disproportionate power. You keep stating the East of Virginia, but the reality is the power center was Central Virginia. The eastern Tidewater area has brackish water and sandy soil, there is reason Jamestown and former colonial capitol Williamsburg were (partially) abandoned. Many of the families around Richmond were interrelated, went to school together, nepotism galore and mountain people were in double trouble because it was physically hard to move goods and information through there. Staunton, Virginia located in the Shenandoah Valley but physically close to West Virginia reportedly voted 3000-1 to support secession.

Southern West Virginia is a distinct cultural region. It identifies with a strong southern heritage and rather strong feelings about the Civil War.

Very interesting video. I love history, and this is awesome! I knew West Virginia broke away from Virginia, but I never really knew why, other than the slavery issue. Today, it remains the only permanent secession.

@marcbahn5487

3 жыл бұрын

Well, there IS the secession of the colonies from Britain on which the Confederate case was based. You know, the Declaration of Independence.

Thanks. Very interesting indeed. I live in between Richmond and Williamsburg, in New Kent. I have roots on my Mama's side in Richmond and prior to that along the fall line near NC. I recently learned about an ancestor before my maternal grandfather who was a Hawthorne. On my father's side, we have West Virginia and Tennessee roots. I hear occasional jokes. Go ahead. I joke about that too.

East coast info. I b learning lots of interesting facts. Been 2 pitt alot. Met wv people 2 ther they migrated!

Enjoyed the details and information. Including that native tribes 'ceaded' lands.

Amazing.

Why the music? It makes difficult to follow THE story..

@kdmdlo

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

Hi. Can I have the background music please. Thanks.

Fascinating. As a Texan, I never understood why US History was so complicated. To this day, West Virginia is more different that just about any state I have ever been to. I am surprised how beautiful it is, off the beaten-path. Other weird places I have been were the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. I can tell you that most of Harris County in Texas is far different, than the rest of Texas. If Texas breaks apart, I hope Harris County goes its own way. It is the sh*thole of Texas.

@marcbahn5487

3 жыл бұрын

American society would be much healthier if the states were countries unto themselves. Hence it is now just an evil empire intent on destroying western civ. The outcome of the "civil war" was a founding block of what we have today.

@ozzyoddity

3 жыл бұрын

They say if yo would flatten out WV, it would be bigger than Texas

@dakotac9547

2 жыл бұрын

It's the most diverse and well know part of Texas. When I was there I seen a lot of drug abuse and poverty. But I also experienced the most diverse and friendly people I've met in the south all the way from georgia. I love Houston.

That kid statue thing behind him to the right of the screen creeps me out

@lordvalentine471

3 жыл бұрын

It's Howdy Doody

Well done.

A good point made was West Virginia broke away from the "powdered wigs Virginia" for the same reason the English Colonies broke away from England, taxation without representation.

Born and raised in Wytheville Virginia lived in Bluefield west va.

Do a video on Fort McHenry

Hi Good Morning Day Everybody and Good Afternoon.

@HowtodothingsBadly

3 жыл бұрын

same to you

@estherpeterson8943

3 жыл бұрын

Good day to you

@thenorsemanshorts

3 жыл бұрын

Well not really

@gp2917

3 жыл бұрын

Good evening

THE APPALACHIAN MOUNTAINS!!! THATS IMPORTANT!!

First of all West Virginia did not “Break Away” from Virginia. It was granted statehood by the northern state allies after the south lost the Civil War. This was done as a punitive measure to Virginia.

@judypierce7028

3 жыл бұрын

I disagree with your perception of why West Virginia was formed.

@lh8372

3 жыл бұрын

@@judypierce7028 With all due respect, it’s not a perception, it’s factual history.

@adspur

2 жыл бұрын

Wv was granted statehood in 1863.The war wasn’t over until 1865.

@judypierce7028

2 жыл бұрын

@@adspur You are correct!!

You missed the strategic railroads located in what is now West Virginia. The “Irish Scottish” were really Scot’s Irish! Those points stated, you are mostly spot on. There are several illustrations of how little the tidewater cared. The best example is the obvious misspelling declaring Monongalia County on the Monongahela River, close enough for “government work “! Also, many of the slaves that were in western Virginia were household servants of the well to do and generally treated well unlike plantation workers. There were instances where these household servants were considered almost family. The Civil War was a convenient excuse!

I’m curious about how the content that airs is chosen. Is it assigned or do the hosts choose their own topics ?

You should of opened, and closed the video, with John Denver's country road!

@pablohammerly448

2 жыл бұрын

@Jeff Rutt: I imagine they didn't to avoid copyright issues and to avoid having to pay royalties. Edit: should've* (never "should of") -- both sound the same, but only one is correct.

So I have to ask what did the native Americans call the area called Virginia?

@Microtherion

3 жыл бұрын

Tsennacommacah. (The Powhatan nation).

@pablohammerly448

2 жыл бұрын

@@Microtherion That explains why English settlers chose Virginia as the name for the colony (and eventual state) instead of using the native name! 🤔

I had wondered about the difference between the two States.

Virginia in 1863: Give us back West Virginia!!! Virginia in 2021: West Virginia? Never heard of it.

That classic painting of John Brown is so cool, I'm somewhat related to him.

@lisamooney8982

3 жыл бұрын

That john brown painting is huge and is the Kansas state capital

@MichaelWH

3 жыл бұрын

Also a album cover from the band "Kansas"

How did they decide where to put the line to divide West Virginia from Virginia?

@DerekLesterGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Almost all boundaries of West Virginia are dictated by the surrounding rivers, save for the area bordering pennsylvania which is dictated by the mason-dixon line

@marcbahn5487

3 жыл бұрын

Oh gee. let's see, the mountains and rivers? Made perfect strategic sense for an invading army.

@wv171

3 жыл бұрын

That was very tricky . I seen old maps from 1863 or 4 had bunch eastern counties such as Greenbrier & Pocohontas in Va.

@pablohammerly448

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcbahn5487 I've lived in the northern Shenandoah Valley in northwestern Virginia since 1997 and worked as a taxi driver for 12 years (2005-17) -- the WV/VA border to the west runs along the top of the ridgeline in that part of the mountains. 🤔

I am born & bred West “by God” Virginian. Tell me this; why is our cemetery’s full of Confederate graves and few Union ones? And my ancestors fought on the side of Virginia not the Union. I keep hearing that West Virginia wanted to break away but I don’t see it in my family and local history.

@clarencehopkins7832

3 жыл бұрын

Me too

@OldHeathen1963

2 жыл бұрын

Don't go by drunk uncle history. ( maybe Confederates did most of the dying out W.V. way....🤔

👍👍👍

You completely overlooked or ignored the political machinations of the Lincoln administration and the adding of 3 House seats and 2 Senatorial seats. These Senators and Representatives were sympathetic and supportive of Lincoln's policies and agenda for the country both during and post Civil War. WV became a state in 1863, Lincoln was not assassinated until 1865 and may have very well ran for and won re-election in 68 or his chosen successor versus Johnson or Grant. This basically would provide him a solid Republican Majority for the 38th Congress in 1863/1864 and solid support for the National Union Party in 64/65 for the 39th and subsequent Congresses.

Background music is WAY too loud.

Failed to mention the railways and telegraph lines that Lincoln needed so badly. Also, Lincoln recognized the extreme importance of having another "union" state.

Reverse pic from Kansas album cover “Wayward Son” is John Brown. Charles Manson’s motives, in stirring civil unrest, were much the same. 👍👍👍

@speedbuggy16v

3 жыл бұрын

it is john brown, but the original artwork is in the KS state capitol

@marcbahn5487

3 жыл бұрын

Great point. About Brown/Manson. Don't know anything about Kansas album except that at the time (1970s-1980s?) things like wayward sons were encouraged in our demented society.

@speedbuggy16v

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcbahn5487 yea, the idea of abolition and freeing slaves was such a horrible idea...... ETA, John Brown like all of us was not perfect, but he was a man of conscience and action. The world could use more like him.

For a second I thought it was going to be Bigfoot from the thumbnail.

@hydrolito

3 жыл бұрын

Lots of men had beards in the 1860's. Why would you think it was Bigfoot?

@colorbugoriginals4457

3 жыл бұрын

@@hydrolito bc of how long and free that person's is and the hair and skin colors are so similar it looked like squatch drawings I've seen when I was scrolling 😁

@colorbugoriginals4457

3 жыл бұрын

lol why are you so affected by this

Around here (Charleston, Kanawha County), we’re West Virginians before we’re Americans. Do other Americans feel that way about their states?

Nobody could blame them

So pawnee and eagleton are real huh

Another reason West Virginia was allowed to succeed was the fact that the Lincoln administration absolutely did NOT want the Ohio river to be the border of the Confederacy and the United States. I live about 4 miles from West Virginias independence Hall in Wheeling WV .

West by God Virginia

I’ve always heard that after the Civil War, Virginia tried to get West Virginia back. I have not read anything about it. Anything to it?

@MrAllenIverson

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think that's right. But Virginia didn't succeed. We did have to pay money to Virginia though. They got something out of it.

Harpers ferry was put down by lee

West Virginia...almost heaven!

@KingCrazealmighty360

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao ok.. bunch of wrong turn looking mofos like deliverance in dem mountains

@1SaltyGirl

3 жыл бұрын

Al ways lernin • So I guess that makes Pennsylvania heaven?

@alwayslernin4400

3 жыл бұрын

@@1SaltyGirl lol, whatever "floats your boat". I must say PA is also beautiful. I'm a mountain person so as long at its along the Appalachian mountains I'm in. I got a special love for West VA from going there alot growing up.

@sarahlane1158

3 жыл бұрын

Why say stuff like that that is cruel Virginians known better

Geographic, cultural and economic differences pretty much describe California.

A purely academic (and moot question), but, Is West Virginia constitutionally a state? The US Constitution requires that if a state is to be created from an existing state, that state must give its consent (Article IV, Section 3). The US did not recognize the Confederacy as a country, only regarding it as an insurrection. Therefore, wouldn't the VA state legislature's consent be required, as opposed to the consent of the" Restored Government of Virginia"?

@kenjett2434

3 жыл бұрын

You answered your own question from the time Virginia formally succeeded the union they as a government was not a Constitutional state. So we in West Virginia took advantage and the reformed Government was formed and recognized as the true government and representatives of the Union of the USA. Thus giving us Constitutional authority to rename to West Virginia.

@matthewbeaver5026

3 жыл бұрын

On the Centennial anniversary in 1963 they gave permission

@kenjett2434

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewbeaver5026 well technically permission wasn't needed but what they did was formally accept the split. This was to benefit some of the tensions that for some still exist because of dividing the state.

The reason they did not have slaves was 100% religious conviction.. im sorry this man is just flat out wrong.

@All_I_can_say_is_Wow

3 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@kalburgy2114

3 жыл бұрын

There were 12000 slaves in WV when it was admitted to the Union as a "free" state.

Barely a mention of the Scotch-Irish

Did they break away form Virginia, or Kentucky?

@mikesmith-po8nd

3 жыл бұрын

sticker shock - they don't call us "East Kentucky" do they?

@baliyae

3 жыл бұрын

Virginia

@ramblinman4197

3 жыл бұрын

Kentucky was formed from Virginia in 1792. West Virginia was formed/broke from Virginia in the 1860’s.

@cashed-out2192

3 жыл бұрын

@@ramblinman4197 Thank you!. I misstated West Virginia Which may explain why both states, VA, and KY, are Commonwealths.

@ramblinman4197

3 жыл бұрын

@@cashed-out2192 I think it might explain it.

Happy Birthday West Virginia!

Lumber was the major economic commodity, utilizing very few slaves. Only the extremely rich owned slaves, similar to modern day Mexico with their Cartel plantations. After America finally ended the 7000 year scourge of slavery (began in Africa according to Sumarian clay tablets), many former slaves took up this industry and later generations still continue in this lucrative business. The Union soldiers at the polls ensuring victory with bayonets concerns me. I'm glad we won, but that's not the way.

The "separation of church and state "??? This is a foriegn concept to our founding documents.

As usual, money becomes the underlying reason.

Based WV

The mountains of the early united states were very divided. The remaining Cherokee tribe, those that were not ethnically cleansed under Andrew Jackson were led by Will Thomas on behalf of the confederacy against the union. Very complicated...

Truth is, the history of this conflict includes Pittsburgh and Southwestern Pennsylvania. The Forks, as the Point in Pittsburgh is now known, was claimed by Virginia during the French and Indian War. After the Revolution, Virginia and Pennsylvania squabbled over who would own Pittsburgh. Virginia, which claimed the Ohio Country, lost out to the Philadelphia interests that wanted Pittsburgh. Notice the Northern Panhandle. It is amazing that the Confederacy, as it were, was 35 miles west of Pittsburgh and 66 or so miles from Cleveland. The Panhandle n ver had any ties to Richmond or Fairfax other than paper. Just a footnote...George Washington owned land in the town I live in, South Fayette. It's now a golf course.

Soooo, how did West Virginia finally succeed from Virginia?

@loribethkerns5785

3 жыл бұрын

Yes.. WV because a State in June 1863 🤔

@nomdeguerre7265

Жыл бұрын

John Carlile formed a stump government and when George B. McClellan moved in with Union army troops, primarily to protect the B&O railroad, they were recognized as the legitimate government of the area, which was officially made a State in 1863. Robert E. Lee was given command to re-take the area, but failed. So perhaps we should call West Virginia the 'State that beat Lee'. ;)

The northern most Southern state and the southern most Northern state.

Tldw; so we could have 50 states ;)

Damn English always muddying up the water...lol

Unfortunately not much has changed.

They have places named Lynchburg. I think I'll avoid Va period whether it's west or not.

@marcbahn5487

3 жыл бұрын

Named after a man, yo yo.

@terrybonnell2086

3 жыл бұрын

Virginia also has a KKK Democratic Governor, RALPH KOONMAN NORTHAM, who refused to resign after pictures surfaced of him in either blackface or a hood and sheet. The Democratic Plantation is alive and well in Virginia.

@latricer6686

3 жыл бұрын

@@terrybonnell2086 I just knew you were probably being biased but I looked it up and you're right. I don't trust either side but dang 🤦🏾

@latricer6686

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcbahn5487 Where you think they got the family name from genius?

@kalburgy2114

3 жыл бұрын

Lynching did come from the Lynch brothers who hung up Tories by their thumbs during the Revolutionary War. They were also involved in the name of Lynchburg, VA.

he better get this right

he sounds like he's going to forget the horror of slavery as recorded by a reporter on the issue

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Until 1792, “Western Virginia “ was Kentucky. 🙂

One of the most affluent states vs one of the most impoverished states in the country

Nowdays border West Virginian counties were proconfederate and the Union government gave to West Virginia as a present. Greenbrier county had 12.7% slaves, here the touristic industrial used slaves. Kanawa county had 13,7% slaves here the salt mines used slaves. The most Proconfederate counties were in West Virginia: Mercier more than 75% confederat soldiers recruitments (5.3% slaves), 50-75% confederate soldiers recruitsments: Monroe (10.5% slaves), Greenbrier (12.7% slaves), Pocahontas (6.4% slaves), Kanawa (13.7% slaves), Logan (3.0% slaves), Pendleton (4.0% slaves), Whyoming (2.2% slaves), Jefferson (28.2% slaves), Roane (1.3% slaves) and Gilmer (1.4% slaves). The most prounionist counties 100-90% prounionist soldiers recruiments : Hancock (0% slaves and this county almost voted Abraham Lincoln!), Brooks (0.3% slaves), Ohio (0.4% slaves), Marshall (0.2% slaves), Monongalia (0.8% slaves), Preston (0.5% slaves), Wetzel (0.1% slaves), Morgan (2.5% slaves), Tucker (1.4% slaves), Upshur (2.9% slaves), Ryler (0.3% slaves), Doddridge (0.7% slaves), Taylor (1.5% slaves), Ritchie (0.6% slaves), Wood (1.6% slaves), Mason (4.2% slaves), Clay (1.2% slaves). Strong prounionist counties 89-75% prounionist soldiers recruinments: Cabell (3.8% slaves), Marion (0.5% slaves), Harrison (4.2% slaves), Lewis (2.9%), Barbour (1.1% slaves), Pleasants (0.5% slaves), Webster (0.2% slaves). The more conties were a little prounionist majority, but the proconfederate sentiment was storng minority.

Allegheny mountain range? Dude it's the Appalachian mountain range. You just lost credibility with me.

@burtbenz9964

3 жыл бұрын

Burgh. In the house haha

@SandfordSmythe

3 жыл бұрын

Some Virginians just call it the "Mountains"

"it was a political issue not a moral one". "they weren't antislavery they were anti slave owner" a man desperately trying not to say the word class