To clarify Archie is a member of the College Football Hall of Fame *not* Pro

@randallross420

Ай бұрын

Saints Hall of Fame also ⚜⚜⚜

@iamhungey12345

Ай бұрын

I wonder how his career could have turn out if the Saints at the time weren't almost complete trash in a decade that was among the worst times to be a NFL QB.

@randallross420

Ай бұрын

@@iamhungey12345 With a competent coach and offensive line he could have been one of the best of that era.

@user-vg4vq4bf3x

Ай бұрын

Archie and the owner Alex Spanos do not vibe is the truth to it its a on the surface be nice thing but underneath a not happening thing. If Eli would of went to the chargers no they wouldn't of won a superbowl either it's the chargers culture they have had all world qbs all world talent and always fall short this was about the manning legacy. Archie wanted both his sons to win a superbowl. I'm from the south we know the story;)

@St.Twizz214

Ай бұрын

They’re both ass

"God sent me to stop Tom Brady and I can't do that in San Diego." - Eli Manning

@SheGotSports

Ай бұрын

LOL 😂

@Killacam1992

Ай бұрын

Chargers played the Brady led pats 3 times in the playoffs and lost each time.

@12thMandalorian

Ай бұрын

@@Killacam1992 sounds like standard Chargers in the Play Offs

@iamhungey12345

Ай бұрын

@@12thMandalorian Lost to the Jets in the playoffs twice even.

@seansmall9910

26 күн бұрын

"Slow down" Tom Brady.... 7 > 2

If the reason is the Spanos family, that would explain a lot.

"I forgot" lmao

@SheGotSports

Ай бұрын

Classic Eli answer lol

Honestly Archie Manning got drafted by the "Aints" and had his career wasted with poor teams. He didn't want that for his son. By the numbers, Rivers was arguably a better QB, yet Eli is the one with 2 Super Bowl MVPs. Not taking anything away from Eli, but the Giants team building, especially on the DL, was a huge factor in those Super Bowls wins.

I always wondered why Eli didn’t want to play in sunny San diego

As a San Diego Chargers fan, I used to blame Eli, but it was always the Spanos family who screwed everything up

What people often forget is, that Drew Bree's met Eli at Peyton's playoff debut while he was still a junior at Purdue and Eli was a Sr in high school. So Archie, and the Mannings were very familiar with Bree's well before that draft and it might have went back as far back to when Bree's was in highschool in texas. Alot of those old articles are now behind paywalls, but when Bree's signed with Sain'ts he even talks about "rekindling" his relationship with Archie. So I am pretty sure that may have been another reason Eli and the family didn't want to go to San Diego. I believe they saw Bree's as an ascending player, and the next 2 years in San Diego, kind of demonstrated that.

Archie Manning is NOT a Hall of Famer evidenced by his lifetime 125 TDs and 173 INTs

@MazeDaGr8

Ай бұрын

Well in his defense, he spent 13 years with the Saints when they were absolute garbage. He was the only person trying most of those years

@tmofog

Ай бұрын

@@MazeDaGr8 But he's NOT a Hall of Famer and whomever produced this should have at least tried to look that up first.

@Mike_Goldberg

Ай бұрын

He is in the College hall of fame.

Wild how this was twenty years ago.

@SheGotSports

Ай бұрын

So crazy

NY getting Eli and SDG getting Rivers may have been the best trade deal in the history of trade deals... Maybe ever.

Damn Eli Escaped the chargers curse To go beat the goat 2 times in the Super Bowl 🔥🔥

I had no idea they had contaced ryan leafs camp. Giants took a huge risk tho back then tbh

@SheGotSports

Ай бұрын

yeah its really crazy it worked out

@iamhungey12345

Ай бұрын

@@SheGotSports In addition it should be noted that the trade left the Giants with just 4 picks in 2005 draft and they got it right in 3 of these.

The fact that they still picked him (and almost certainly leaked him privately saying he didn't want to go there) really speaks volumes. Its not like this was some scrub class of players. It was wall to wall stacked. They could have selected one of multiple HoF qbs or multiple HoF players at other positions. They did this while giving up on a future HoF QB 2 seasons into his career, too. The Mannings were right about the organization.

Great video Lauren, glad you are ok and your city didn't get struck in that earthquake last week

Great video, I've always wanted to see something like this happen in my day. The idea of it is still crazy to me.

@ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987

Ай бұрын

Hello there gorgeous tremendously terrific Torri❤❤❤❤❤❤

I call bullshit he didn't want to compete against his brother in the AFC

@jasonwethy8360

Ай бұрын

Maybe but the rest is true to. The Chargers are a crap organization when it comes to supporting players.

@skeezix8156

Ай бұрын

I think I saw you called bullshit on another video. You’re only allowed to call things so often, but we’re all glad you called it because now it’s validated. Good call sir

@dashien2605

Ай бұрын

Or it was just poorly ran franchise

@iamhungey12345

Ай бұрын

@@dashien2605 Wasting massive amount of talents are the Chargers' forte.

I've always wondered this. Very cool to learn all this, definitely didn't know everything in the video.

God bless you!! Congrats on the 100k subs.

The big winner was Drew Brees getting out of that crap organization & winning a Lombardi for Archie's old team while beating his son...

That actually worked out well for NY, SD, and Pittsburgh. No titles for SD but you can't put that on Rivers, he was great.

@SheGotSports

25 күн бұрын

Yeah crazy how it worked out so well for each team

Great video Lauren

@SheGotSports

Ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!!

The Chargers wasted Fouts' career, poorly handled Ryan Leaf, and had a reputation for being where quarterbacks go to die.

congrats on 100k

He's a jerk lol and he probably didn't want to play in the afc with Peyton

Ben Roethlisberger had a better Rookie Season then Manning because Roethlisberger won the Rookie of the year with the Pittsburgh Steelers 15-1 record he started all 13 games with zero losses got to the AFC Championship game lost to New England but a year later Big Ben won his 1st Super Bowl Championship Ring vs Seattle in 2005 2:40

@1201zj

Ай бұрын

Big Ben could have been the first Rookie QB to start in the Super Bowl. Crazy to think.

@ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987

Ай бұрын

​@@1201zjYes that's so true for real I agree

Thank you Eli for not playing for the Chargers. We love Philip Rivers even without a Super Bowl.

This happened when I was younger. Me and my friend talked about it. I was probably in school still talking about it. But I remember that we thought it was crazy at the time.

Hey Lauren, how old were you when Eli played?

Congrats to 100k subs! Well deserved even tho u are a Giants fan (GO BIRDS!).

@SheGotSports

Ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

Had nothing to do with what eli wanted it was archie that made that decision trust me on that.

Well, the reason is actually pretty simple: the Chargers were ass in 2003.

Be really funny if the Chargers draft Arch Manning in a couple of years

@SheGotSports

Ай бұрын

Omg 😂

@julesmum9781

Ай бұрын

The family probably won't let him go there

He knew he couldn’t beat out Drew Brees

Damn that was a great recounting! Thought i knew the story but wow... Awesome stuff dude✊🏽

@SheGotSports

Ай бұрын

Thanks so much!!

Helluva career move! Props to pops for looking for him.

Eli said, and I quote "Derpy derp derp."

I always assumed he didn’t want to be in the AFC with his brother. That way they could be in the SuperB owl together.

Guy in white tshirt and jeans throwing things on stage. Yea, you can tell this the early 2000s😂

Eli Manning 1st Round 1st overall pick in 2004 NFL Draft Ole Miss by Chargers until a Trade happened New York Giants selected Philip Rivers 4th overall pick Eli Manning and Philip Rivers exchange teams and Eli Manning won two Super Bowl Rings in 2007 and 2011 with the Giants becoming the only Quarterback in NFL's History to beat the greatest QB and greatest coach of all time in Super Bowl's but Philip Rivers had a wonderful phenomenal career with then San Diego Chargers but no Super Bowl trips not once plain and simple 4:06

@godlyleprechaun947

Ай бұрын

The Philly special

Chargers got Leaf then ended up with the one qb out of the 3 to not win a Superbowl.

I must have missed the part where you told us the real reason.

As a chargers fan I don’t blame him I wouldn’t want to play for Dean Spanos either.. one of the worst ran organizations in the NFL.. Rivers ended up being the better QB but Eli was able to win 2 SBs so I guess it worked out..

@jasonyale4647

26 күн бұрын

Rivers was not the better QB. No rings. Choke city. Eli beat Brady twice. This isn’t even a contest. Eli > Rivers.

@Killacam1992

26 күн бұрын

@@jasonyale4647 rings are a team stat. Individual stats are individual stats. Rivers was the better qb and that is a fact.

@jasonyale4647

26 күн бұрын

@@Killacam1992 wrong. So Tom Brady isn’t the GOAT? He doesn’t have 7 rings. His team has them. He was carried to all those championships. Every QB is on equal terms. Interesting argument you have made here. It’s about winning. Being clutch in the biggest moments. Rivers did nothing. He was a joke. Simple.

@Killacam1992

25 күн бұрын

@@jasonyale4647 Brady literally leads every passing stat by a wide margin. 🤡

The real reason why Eli Manning didn't want to play for the Chargers in 2004 Draft it's because that he didn't want to be the Ryan Leaf 2.0 in Sunny California

did eli wear the charges hat or put on the jersey.

@SheGotSports

Ай бұрын

He just held the jersey up lol no hat. Did wear the giants hat tho

That’s a crazy story and not to nation also brought the giants two Super Bowls.

Drew Brees and the Saints got the best deal of them all out of that scenario.

The Charges shit the bed so much that even the city of San Diego doesn't want them around anymore.

Just bring this bleak time in Chargers history makes me want to vomit.

I wonder if he was in 2024 draft. He and Caleb Williams are same

Wow!great revelation.everybody was happy.eli,phil,drew,ben and ryan.btw check his criminal history,even back on the air now.

He and payton also made a promise to their mom that they wouldnt play in the same conference at some point

@Wolf-qh2lk

Ай бұрын

Why the F would MOM care if they played in the same conference?????

Thats funny,phil had 3 kids when drafted now 10

Archie Manning is not a Hall of Fame QB. Unless you count the NO Saints HOF.

I'd need to go find who said it, but wasn'Ernie also involved in the 1983 draft with Elway also not wanting to play for the team who drafted him as well? To be fair, Elways not wanting to play for the then Baltimore Colts, I can kind of understand given how the team was in 1982, methinks Elway got the better end of that deal

@briandejean6785

Ай бұрын

He was.

@briandejean6785

Ай бұрын

The problem in Baltimore was Robert Irsay. He was a TERRIBLE owner and Elway's idol was Bert Jones. Bert and Irsay had a TERRIBLE relationship that resulted it litigation, career-ending injuries and a trade to the Rams. Coincidentally, Bert Jones ALMOST ended up in San Diego after retiring. He was in a QB skills competition and Chargers GM Bobby Beathard was so impressed with the then almost 40YO former MVP that he tried to sign Bert, but doctors wouldn't clear him.

@jacekatalakis8316

Ай бұрын

@@briandejean6785 It's just amazing the butterfly effect Ernie Accorsi had, he drafted Elway and had to trade him then could not avoid meeting up with Elway's Broncos in the playoffs. Having read up a bit on Bert Jones., Ernie's name comed up yet again and he got high praise as a QB but the way some of the hits are described makes me wonder just what he would have done career wise at another time in NFL history

@iamhungey12345

Ай бұрын

@@jacekatalakis8316 Accorsi wasn't the one who traded him, in fact he felt he could have gotten Elway to come around to staying with the Colts before Irsay made the move behind his back. That was the reason why he resigned from the Colts after that mess.

Makes me wonder what a Eli, LaDanian, and Gates team would have done.

@MaxCustomKicks

Ай бұрын

Y’all wouldn’t have gotten LT Chargers used the Giants pick to draft him

@iamhungey12345

Ай бұрын

@@MaxCustomKicks Tomlinson was drafted in 2001 bud. If you mean Merriman, he was close to LT's level for few years before his knee caved in.

@MaxCustomKicks

Ай бұрын

@@iamhungey12345 yeah you where right man the Chargers didn’t get anything from that trade other then Rivers who you could’ve took at 1

@iamhungey12345

Ай бұрын

@@MaxCustomKicks Not a Chargers fan, quite the opposite. Just here to add some correction since LDT had nothing to do with 2004 draft (I have no idea how you got that one mixed up), the Chargers did get talents from the picks they got in the trade but they didn't really last long enough to really help them in the long run. Plus in addition to Merriman's roided up seasons that led to his knees caving in, there's Kaeding who is unsafe for kids due to being a choking hazard when it counts. Even Tynes wasn't that bad in the postseason.

@MaxCustomKicks

Ай бұрын

@@iamhungey12345 i forgot, getting old it happens

He beat Brady TWICE in the SB 🏆🏆 proving that the REAL G.O.A.T. has ALWAYS been #16 Joe Montana 🏈🏈🏈🏈

San Diego now los angeles

Archie Manning is NOT a Hall of Famer. He is a Louisiana Hall of Famer. Feel like with a big channel like this that could have been vetted.

@SheGotSports

Ай бұрын

Read pinned comment

Pop didn't want it

Would the Giants have been better keeping Rivers or drafting Ben?

@calibrazxr750

Ай бұрын

It doesn't matter, both were better than Eli. The Giants won those two championships in spite of Eli, not because of him. Many of his career stats are very average and the rest inflated due to the rule changes that make almost every modern day Qb look like a hall of famer.

@khanhnguyen-tt3ff

Ай бұрын

​@@calibrazxr750 lol that sound like slot of hate coming thought. Those two sb run for giant eli have to pull bullshit play out of his ass to win those sb. The defend for giant in those two year was middle of the pack cause they cannot stop the run at all, but their pass rush are great.

@iamhungey12345

Ай бұрын

@@khanhnguyen-tt3ff Plus the Chargers had more offensive talents during those times as well. The main defense that can be given to Rivers is that the guy should keep Kaeding away from his kids, last thing you need is a choking hazard near them. Seriously it wasn't just the Jets game, the guy was 8 for 15 in the postseason overall. Also it should be noted that they each had different offensive system and the Giants had at the time was a high risk high reward type which can lead to turnovers if things goes wrong. It was basically a modified version of what Gilbride used to run during his time with the Oilers where the passing game relies on option routes with elements of Erhdart-Perkins added in. I'm personally not a fan of that offensive system due to how frustrating it gets at times but in the end what matters? You guessed it.

@yepdontcarebud

Ай бұрын

​@calibrazxr750 another stat nerd who never cracked a playbook or buckled a chin strap...

Imagine preferring a Super Bowl winning quarterback like Drew Brees over a bum like rivers. 😂

I wouldn’t want to play for the chargers either. Hahah.

To this day Eazy-E still owns Brady and Belicheck 4:20

Spanos family....nuff said.

Eli Manning was a good QB for the Giants I'm not gonna lie but the NFl has to bring back him depends on his age and Lauren this team is good and Goated

Unless Eli his dad and Peyton come out and tell us what happened it ain’t the truth

@SheGotSports

Ай бұрын

This is legit what Eli said in interviews post retirement

Archie Mannong in the HOF??

Take notes Caleb Williams

@SheGotSports

Ай бұрын

Zukoooo

So Eli is just 100% riding on his family name huh? wow nepobaby all the way.

Eli better than peyton,won 2 before him,know why? Big brother bullied him into toughness.not a hater like him either.humiliated in worst sb loss ever and brady hates him.

Why do you sound like that?

Archie Manning is NOT in the Pro Football HOF. The popular narrative is that he played on really bad Saints teams. The reality is Archie was the highest paid player in the NFL. New Orleans couldn't afford enough talent to even be competitive because they ridiculously overpaid Manning. It was SO ridiculous that the Saints, Oilers and Vikings were all paying part of Archie's bloated salary in the waning years of an underachieving career. Archie Manning has nothing but his own greed to blame for not being in the HOF. Peyton and Eli may've been even more successful if they'd taken a few Bradyesque haircuts, but the greed gene runs deep in the Manning family. If you ever want to see how copper wire's made, toss a penny between Archie, Peyton and Eli.

Archie is not in the hall of fame

Cause San Fran was the gay capital at the time so Archie said no. Jk but honestly that could be a legit factor

@ConstitutionalConservative1776

Ай бұрын

Should be. I wouldn't want that evil in my back yard

Archie manning is not a hall of famer

Crying eli😂😂😂😂

I will still take Rivers over the Eli any day.

@MalaysianSWcollector

Ай бұрын

So you're taking the guy with no SB rings over the guy with 2 rimgs and 2 MVPs? Ok.

@RobertFixit

Ай бұрын

@@MalaysianSWcollector 💯

@khanhnguyen-tt3ff

Ай бұрын

Are sure this is the guy that manage not make it to the playoff inspite his team having the number 1 offend and number 1 defend😅😅😅. River stat are good but his record in playoff is like Tony Romo

@jogendron6320

Ай бұрын

Any day? Hmmm. There’s 2 particular days I would pick Eli over Rivers. Actually the whole thing, yeah gimme Eli please. Riiiiiiiiiiiveeeeeeeeeeeers 😂😂😂😂

@iamhungey12345

Ай бұрын

You can have him.

"Hall of fame quarterback, Archie Manning". If you are going to make videos, at least do some rudimentary research. Glaring mistakes like this, makes your channel seem very amateurish.

@SheGotSports

Ай бұрын

Addressed this in another comment should have clarified college

@calibrazxr750

Ай бұрын

@SheGotSports ah, okay. I read a number of comments, but did not see that one.

@SheGotSports

Ай бұрын

@@calibrazxr750 no worries!

Should have told them the reason why he chose not to play for the San Diego Chargers. He also should of played for the team that drafted him.

One word…. Spanos💀💯

@doyouluvit

Ай бұрын

yes, the spanos's are losers

Archie Manning was the FURTHEST thing from a Hall of Famer🤣🤣 He was so damn lucky his 2 sons ended up being so great or else Archie would be doomed to the NFL Follies archives…. He was SO BAD!!🤣🤣

@SheGotSports

Ай бұрын

That was my bad. He was college football hall of fame

@gimletinf69

Ай бұрын

@@SheGotSports I’m not trying to correct you…. Trust me I just think it is UNBELIEVABLE how much power Archie has cause his off spring was so great… From a board seat on the CFB Playoff committee to his influence on the NFL…. It’s an ABSOLUTE JOKE!!

Lauren you look amazing and beautiful