The manuscript which was found was Surah Taha, the 20th chapter, which I memorized. I read it and can clearly state there’s no difference Alhamdulillah.

@IngramSnake

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I can read clearly as well. No differences. It is as if you're readying it from your own copy.

@astroflyinsights

3 жыл бұрын

@@bengreen171 If you're going to plagiarise Twitter user Aabhas Maldahiyar @Aabhas24, Mr RSS, anyone can also link to the refutation mobile.twitter.com/burairss/status/1334967239800356864 😆

@amhariqbal2524

3 жыл бұрын

@@bengreen171 Little boy!! your argument has already been destroyed. giving you proof is not worthy. "Truth will hurt you,stay mad"- a wise friend-

@astroflyinsights

3 жыл бұрын

@@bengreen171 No, I'm a stickler for transparency and my tradition is Evidentia. Jay Smith rofl ok says it all. You ought to stop digging now - the other posters have given their sources: their own opinions or their friend's. They are not blatantly plagiarising with zero verification of the source let alone ability to do so. Again, a transparent approach could be: it is said that xyz - with a possible caveat of "although I'm not able to comment as I myself can't read it" if you want to spare someone writing a long reply when you won't understand the claim or counterclaim.

@One-rr8um

3 жыл бұрын

@@bengreen171 lol you googled it, then copy pasted from a source you don't even aware of and even the contents of the matter are above your brain. Why are you even commenting morons? Stupidity at its best. If you don't know, just stay silent. No one takes your words seriously on this imbecile. FYI, classical Arabic and modern Arabic isn't same.

Brother Paul May Allah reward you the highest. I have read the oldest Quran pages. It is absolutely the same, no difference what we read today. It is a miracle. SubhanAllah.

@786humaira1

3 жыл бұрын

Miracles are seen in our bodies and our surroundings. If we have eyes that see and ears that hear.

@apacheatlantic

3 жыл бұрын

aameen

@ntyrprblm6254

3 жыл бұрын

AlhamduLILLAH btw are paul and david Muslims?

Another awesome interview and frankly as a muslim revert I find that there's no comparison between Christianity and Islam when it comes to being sound in both history and theology. Still to each his own. In a way I'm glad I wasn't born muslim and had the chance to scrutinize Islam before I wholeheartedly accepted it. Alhamdulillah I haven't looked back since. Plus the quran continues to put everything into perspective.

@tombuddy100

3 жыл бұрын

How did you scrutinize Islam? Do you believe in the entire standard Islamic narrative: Mecca, Muhammad from Mecca, Revelation, Medina, the Quran? I find there to be a somewhat of a disconnect between the Quran, which talks about places and people around the dead sea, but generally everything about historical stories, places, and events is kind of vague, and Mecca and Muhammad are barely mentioned, and the Hadiths, according to which Mecca and Muhammad and Medina are introduced, and basically the story is shifted thousand kilometers south, and suddenly everything revolves around that alleged storyline.

@omarlittle-hales8237

3 жыл бұрын

@@tombuddy100 Shalom, Salam, Peace. 1. God And Angels Communicate In A Very Different Fashion. 2. Plus God Does Not Waste Time With GPS, Only The Spirit And Parables Are Given. 3. Songs of Solomon "Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem. [Songs Of Solomon Quote Muhammadim] 4. Gospel [New Testament] And when Jesus the son of Mary said, O children of Israel, verily I am the apostle of God sent unto you, confirming the law which was delivered before me, and bringing good tidings of an apostle who shall come after me, and whose name shall be Ahmed [Muhammad]. 5. God Chose The Arabs, Through Hagar [Egyptian], Both Sarah And Hagar Was Married To Abraham. 6. Abraham Being The Friend Of God, Cannot Have Sex Or A Child Outside Wedlock. 7. Thus God Went To The Arabs, Who Were Known For Wine Making, Partying And Battles. 8. Islam Tamed Most Of The Arabs, Like All Societies There Some Bad Apples.

@mikailsameerraifmikailsame9436

3 жыл бұрын

@@tombuddy100 well you see the quran for me is revelation for human beings to follow through till you pass away and that's what resonates with me. The quran gives questions and then asks you to think about what is being said. When I said historically sound I meant that the narrative of the quran and the Hadith has more consistency than compared with the bible and the writings of the patristics. Basing the basic Islamic teachings it actually tells me that there is a god. Unfortunately I don't think that any other teachings which claim to be from the creator of mankind except maybe Judaism but I find that Islam is the most consistent when compared with Islam. When you say a huge disconnect what is it that you based that disconnect off? When I started learning about Islam I did mistakes myself. Especially when it came to the historical and theological parts. Maybe you can explain more about the points you said are disconnected. I'll be glad to help but I'm no expert. In the case I have no knowledge about what you ask then you should continue your journey by seeking knowledge with those who have that correct knowledge.

@pr7049

3 жыл бұрын

Please watch in Christian Prince channel and Light for all nations channel to see how islamic doctrines holds scrutiny😌👍🙏🕯📖🕯

@mikailsameerraifmikailsame9436

3 жыл бұрын

@@pr7049 if christian prince is your guiding light then no one can help you. It's funny you quite christian prince instead of scholars or academics on any issue that he has brought up. It goes to show that when you go to people like christian prince who being a christian doesn't even bother to defend his own faith instead goes around poking his fingers into other people's faith without understanding anything.

I was fortunate to be one of Professor David Thomas students back in the early 2000s at the University of Birmingham. Back then he was a lecturer of Islamic Groups and Sects. I still remember most of what he taught.

I’m glad the ummah has someone like you

I swear…all the parts that i’ve read from it are the same of our todays quran…a tunisian here✌🏼

@ademjrad9994

3 жыл бұрын

@Al Mudarabah no need bro..,i’ve read it…thank you anyways

@brummiali1998

Жыл бұрын

Allhumdullia im glad I was born in too islam Allhumdullia

The proofs are there, but as always hidaya comes from Allah.

@ntyrprblm6254

3 жыл бұрын

nut are paul williams and david thomas Muslims??

@husaamsaif

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Hidaya comes from Allah and it did come. But some accepted it and others did not.

@samienaamien7038

Жыл бұрын

That is so brilliantly said!!!!

When I was in 9th grade I was studying about compilation of the quran and how the companions of (prophet Muhammad peace upon him صلى الله عليه وسلم) wrote the words of Allah on leathers bones, and such and after seeing this the oldest manuscript of the quran makes me so honored and happy,, thanks be to God that I'm Muslim 🌷❤️

Brilliant Paul!..... He is a learned and respected scholar! 👍🏼

Thanks Paul for doing this. I was waiting for this analysis for a long time. Let me prepare my coffee and watch.

@Truth-Is-a-Hard-Pill

3 жыл бұрын

😊 Hi CodeWeb. I didn't hear back from you. What happened?🤔

@BloggingTheology

3 жыл бұрын

Enjoy

Thank you Paul for sharing these amazing interviews.

@BloggingTheology

3 жыл бұрын

more to come!

Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur’an and indeed, We will be its guardian. (Al-Hijr 15:9)

Thank you to both brother Paul and Professor David Thomas. The discussion was very enlightening.

Honestly sir thomas was the most open minded christian scholar I have have ever seen amazing interviews great highlight ✨👍🏻

Prof. Thomas is an extremely sophisticated and learned scholar. His concluding statements however, are suffused by uncertainty; clearly a struggle between knowledge and methodology on the one hand and life long convictions on the other. May Allah guide him to the true message of Abraham, David, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, may Allah's peace and blessings be upon them all. Another great podcast by BT. Thank you Paul!

Timestamps (suggest changes if necessary) 5:00 How is carbon dating done? 6:54 Approx. date of the Birmingham parchment 8:42 Parchments in other museums 9:08 Relationship with Paris manuscripts 9:51 Style of writing dating 10:48 Style of writing in the Birmingham manuscript 12:26 Uthmani manuscripts story 13:18 When was the writing put on the parchment 15:08 Parchment material produced in a monastery 16:48 Why not test the ink? 17:58 How does the Birmingham manuscript compare with modern prints of the Quran? 20:26 What majority of scholars are saying? 21:01 Expected differences in the manuscripts 25:15 Christian and Muslim relations 25:45 Diversity of practice in Christian world 26:33 Binary Christian view of Muslims 27:20 Complexity of Christian Muslim relations 28:21 Jesus Christ in Quran vs Bible 31:46 How Christians and Muslims view each other 33:28 Medieval Christian view of Muslims 36:08 Modern Christian scholars on Quran 38:00 Inherited Christian attitudes towards Islam 39:19 Christian view of history 42:04 The Prophet after the Enlightenment 45:57 Jewish Christianity and Islam 50:18 Mistake of seeing Jesus and the Prophet as similar 51:49 Historical reconstruction 54:19 Relying upon written records regarding Jesus and the Prophet 56:26 The professor's thought on the Prophet 1:00:42 Message to Muslims

Dear brother Paul, Thank you so much for doing this video. I requested you few months back to produce a video on this topic. Didn't know that time u will make it so beautifully ❤️. Jazakallah khairun

Have watched some videos from Brother Paul, but for this, I have to say thank you brother Paul.

Great da'wah Mr Paul..great video info & salutes both oldman polite discussion🥇 ..May Allah grant you great rewards🤲

Beautiful practical message at the end. Valuable information through out this video. Thank you brother for this .

A huge thank you to Brother Paul, for doing the real God's work, engaging so many scholars and asking those point-blank questions.

@user-nv5sf4yv1q

3 жыл бұрын

no. he is not doing GOD´s work. he is trying to be a good servant of GOD.

Well I guess one can’t win them all. I could see your reservation in the second half of the talk and the professor’s reluctance to acknowledge and say the obvious no matter which academic you quoted and point you brought up. But over all very interesting and learned a few things. Thanks as always!

"if we know more about the Quran..." you can't put the Quran under the same textual criticism as the Bible's manuscripts - it is primarily preserved through memorization. Manuscripts are a secondary method and wouldn't affect the primary method. If the manuscripts had errors, that would be corrected through the original preservation method which is memorization, just like when someone recites the Quran in prayer and makes a mistake, you'll find someone who'd correct them if they mispronounced a single letter.

@thereisnogod3924

3 жыл бұрын

if you cant do that ( the same criticism ) , then why mohamed asked to have it in 7 dialects and afterwords distroyed by uthman to only quraish , if the second method wouldnt affect the first one. and if it was not nesecarry ( to have it written ) then why send 5 copys to the big citys. Where is one of those copys , one of those soooooooo important books to demonstrate the people how allah could preserve them ??? all you can come up with is some fragments ( are you kidding ). Where is the oldest complete quran ????????????????

@thereisnogod3924

3 жыл бұрын

@Khadiri Tariq you mean qadhi the one who says there are holes in the naritive ( meaning there are mistakes made!!! ) he is joke like zakir nike or like mimi hijab who have to lie and change words to get there reason. Just ask yourself !!!!!!! if allah is all knowing then why would mohamed ask for the different dialects to jabriel and why didnt allah said the first time to jabriel when he brought down de recitaitions that there will be different dialects ( some mayor important point if you ask me ) ??? Also your book says different times that mohamed is just a messenger !!! then why would mohamed go up and discus with the all knowing allah on how many times they have to pray , and he went up several times from50 prays to 45 to 40 to 35 and so on untill 5. didnt allah know that ??????????? And also the writing has nothing to do with the dialect, in the time of mohamed there where only 16 letters and no dots and vows ( those came way after the dead of mohamed ), dont you think that is strange that allah didnt know that. i have read somewere that there are more then 100 non arabic words in the quran , isnt that strange that allah wouldnt know that. but you didnt tell me where we can find the oldest complete quran????

@muhammadwafi329

3 жыл бұрын

@@thereisnogod3924 thank you for taking a lot of time learning about my religion.. i hope youre happy with what you do. And hopefully it will benefit you someday.. 😊

@Overfloater777

3 жыл бұрын

@@thereisnogod3924 I am wondering, do you speak Arabic? And if so, are you genuinely searching for the truth, or you are fully convinced that there is no God? I mean if I make an effort to respond to your objection in a long message, will that make any difference? Is this particular topic about Islam (7 ahruf and the preservation of the Quran) the one thing that makes you not convinced that Islam is the truth? Kindly respond respectfully, I'm not trying to argue nor insult you.

@Overfloater777

3 жыл бұрын

@Khadiri Tariq Salam khadiri. It seems that you misunderstood the preservation story just like I have before. There's a couple of lectures by Dr. Ayman Suayed that fully explain the whole story in detail. If you are interested, I can send you the link. Jazak Allah khayr.

I come from the middel east and there we lived with different religions together for hundreds and thousands of years. It is very strange for us to see the fighting now, it does not come from the mentality of the the middel east with religions.

@786humaira1

3 жыл бұрын

It is in the western DNA to occupy others lands and to exterminate the locals. Did it not happen in America with the NATIVE AMERICANS?. DID IT NOT HAPPEN IN AUsTRALIA WITH aborigenes. Now it is happening in Middle EAST. ONLY GOD CAN HELP THE PEOPLE OF MIDDLE EAST.

@salut4396

3 жыл бұрын

@@786humaira1 It’s not in anyone’s dna lol

@amazingamazigh6847

3 жыл бұрын

@@salut4396 its in the dna of j r w s

@syrian5170

3 жыл бұрын

Of course, there is occupation and corrupt dictatorial regimes

Paul williams David Thomas you are very appreciated

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم ( انا نزلنا الذكر وانا له لحافظون ) صدق الله العظيم

@yahyaaahmed8274

2 жыл бұрын

نحن

@Jazierbmq

2 жыл бұрын

@@yahyaaahmed8274 مع اعتذاري.. سهوا

And another one!!! Paul thank you! Fascinating discussion and interested to hear the Birmingham Qur'anic leaves might be part of the a larger Qur'anic text to be found in Paris, France.

Thank You, God Bless both of you, very informative, Thank You Again.

Thank you, Paul. A good, honest, nuanced, educative, and fascinating dialogue. Reasonable discourse par excellence. Interesting that our hero Thomas Aquinas says, in the Summa Contra Gentiles, that Christians should not barely "quote scripture" at Muslims (since Muslims don't accept the authority of Christian scripture) but rather engage in reasonable, rational discourse. "In addressing Muslims, therefore, one must 'have recourse to the natural reason, to which all men are forced to give their assent' or 'moral and philosophical reasons which the Muslims can accept'. Since Muslims do not accept the Christian Scriptures, one should not quote them uselessly" (Joseph Ellul, "Thomas Aquinas and Muslim-Christian Dialogue", in ANGELICUM 80, 2003.)

I read the first 8 lines fom Surah 20 Taha from the leaves and it is exactly as it is in the current Quran. Amazing!!! Allahu Akbar!!!

Amazing content Paul! Have to say though that you and David Thomas look like brothers😉

Thank you!! Much appreciated. jazakallaha khayran kasiran.

SubhanAllah. Absolutely loved this interview.

Thanks for the video

Great Paul !👍David wood should be listening to this conversation. I love ❤️ history.

Wow. Masha Allah brother Paul. Great conversation . You have a special and marvelous talent when discussing very sensitive faith issues. Very noble, very respectable, very humble in seeking the truth that your host has to respect that and try to copy you. God bless you and special greetings from your brother living in the holy Land and special greetings from alAqsa mosque.

@BloggingTheology

3 жыл бұрын

Many many thanks

Really love your content brother Paul, but what's happened to the bookshelf lately. It was nice having that in the background. Hopefully, you'll get things sorted soon !

@BloggingTheology

3 жыл бұрын

I'm in France for a while

Hats off to you Mr. Paul for your efforts.

Hi Paul, thank you for this interview. Can I suggest that instead of having the (irritating) rolling ticker at the bottom with the title of the video to have instead a static title? May God bless you for all your work, really love this channel. Thank you

I’m sure there is so much more pieces waiting to be discovered. May Allah preserve these pieces and those which have not been discovered yet, until we are able to piece together the entire Quran from the life time of the prophet. Aameen

@7164227

3 жыл бұрын

And many probably got destroyed by them. If they hate Islam and Muslims why would they keep archaeological evidence that validate Islam.

Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment. (7:46)

Allahu akbar, yes, الله protect de qur’an and he says in his brook that he is the protector of this...

Great video love the content

A very clear exposition of what the Birmingham leaves do and do not show. In the second part, very thoughtful remarks on the relation of Christianity and Islam over the centuries, and with hope for today. The final move: is Muhammad a prophet? beautifully answered.

@samienaamien7038

Жыл бұрын

I think the answer was quite flawed, though it was respectfully delivered.

I'll wait for that lovely guy who adds timestamps 😊

This will a very good and rock solid as it can be for dawah at speakers corner.alhamdullillah..thank you brother

@BloggingTheology

3 жыл бұрын

👍

@speakerscornerchristianfil4318

3 жыл бұрын

MORE PROOF OF THE DIFFERENT QURANS AND THE CORRUPTION WITHIN THEM kzread.info/dash/bejne/k4ymtZKpmKyvYcY.html

@justice4all979

3 жыл бұрын

I concur. The evidence being exposed by honest highly learned individuals as these gentlemen is commendable.

@justice4all979

3 жыл бұрын

Robert carlyle,Paul Williams and Mr.D.Thomas have far more global respect than the hate ministries and co that frequent speakers corner.

Very interesting discussion & super interview. I felt the Reverend ‘reverse - engineered’ his conclusions around his fundamental faith - something perhaps most of us are guilty of at times, except those few insightful and inspired people who have the courage to seek the truth - no matter what that truth might be.

Congrats on more than 50k subscribers

Amazing as usual - thanks

@BloggingTheology

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

David Thomas tries to minimize the importance of the Birmingham Quran. He takes the extreme margin instead of noting that the bulk of time span of the carbon dating period is squarely in the time of the Prophet (saww) and the first three caliphs.

Professor David Thomas spoke well and I really enjoyed listening to him. However, I was a bit surprised when he said that it’s very difficult to accommodate Mohammed within religious history. I think it’s undeniable.

I'm 13 minutes in and it pretty interesting, thanks Paul.

I have a lot of respect for you Paul, may Allah grant you heaven

Thank you so much, Can you please activate the caption options for English and Arabic if possible.

@BloggingTheology

3 жыл бұрын

will do soon

Please Paul can you provide these interviews as podcasts.🙏

I am still amazed seeing Paul having all these big brains to help us understand a lot more than we do! He must be really good at fishing in deep water! BAFS

Verses from Surah Taha are there on one of page on thumbnail 😊 I can read a bit of it.

Thank you David Thomas you give the good idea I hope we muslim and our christian friends we will keep stay in touch

Hey brother paul... Thanks for this... One suggestion....can you plz add time stamps with questions or subtopics...this will be help full. Love from india☺️☺️

@BloggingTheology

3 жыл бұрын

Noted

Paul! Where’s the lovely background view of ur chateaux jardin you promised us! ? 😀 We want to see the French countryside 😊👍

EL hamdulilah for ISALAM thank you brother Paul, i loved this video

@BloggingTheology

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

When i saw it i tried to read it and i actually read it kind of easily. Subhan Allah al Azim! La ilah ila Allah!

OMG!!!!! Can't believe i missed thissss!!!

Very useful dialogue!

@BloggingTheology

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Sir @paul williams Can you interview Dr. William Lane Craig one day?

"Indeed, it is We who sent down the message [i.e., the Qur’ān], and indeed, We will be its guardian. " Surah/Chapter Al-Hijr verse 9

@RickyPlayingGames

3 жыл бұрын

@@successmanifesting it's the same thing, that's the beauty of Qur'an my dude

@RickyPlayingGames

3 жыл бұрын

@@successmanifesting dhikr means a lot, remembrance, verses, etc, just work on your arabic languange first, and arabic poetry to know the beauty of it and that all of you humans won't be able to make just 1 ayat/verse,

@RickyPlayingGames

3 жыл бұрын

@@successmanifesting just like english, word "set" could be translated to anything just like that, ain't suppose to debate you my dude, i mean i could debate you point by point, but i believe what you about to say is crap

@RickyPlayingGames

3 жыл бұрын

@@successmanifesting many books? As far as i know, Allah only sent 4, Zabur/Book of David(Daud Allaihisalam), Torah/Book of Moses(Musa Allaihisalam), Injil/Book of Jesus(Isa Allaihisalam), and the Qur'an, tell me which book that doesn't have any revision/edit version

A beautiful, intelligible discussion . And i like the final message from christian theologian.

Surely the Priest will never give up on questioning rather admitting what will break his faith...

I was baptised and raised a Catholic Christian and later reverted to Islam the more I study the more I believe that we are talking about different interpretations of the same religion. We often argue over minor irrelevant details and often lose sight of the main messages that both Islam and Christianity preach

@KungfuPanda342

3 жыл бұрын

Have you checked how Muhammad used to get his revelation ? An exorcist will faint if he saw that

@pr7049

3 жыл бұрын

Please watch Christian Prince channel and Light for all nations channel to see how islamic doctrines holds scrutiny😌👍🙏🕯📖🕯

@KungfuPanda342

3 жыл бұрын

@@pr7049 Christian Prince is doing a great job👍 He is like a pro- street fighter that can knock down any Muhammad’s follower

Why would the Rev Prof Thomas assume the parchment, were it to have come from a monastery, to be the product of a raid rather than a purchase?

@osamamarei2598

3 жыл бұрын

@@bengreen171 my friend your just mad Islam is the truth. La illaha illa Allah ☝️

@knowledge_lantern

3 жыл бұрын

@@bengreen171 yeah it's sad really grown men and women think athiesm is a viable world view we really are regressing as a society 🤦‍♂️

@astroflyinsights

3 жыл бұрын

@@bengreen171 more likely on what basis?

@schorpioen7466

3 жыл бұрын

@@osamamarei2598 Even if it is the truth that wouldn't mean muslims are perfect

@siriusly7081

3 жыл бұрын

@@bengreen171 in these verses Allah SWT talks about how he created the earth and the stars, what is not said is that he “created the earth THEN the stars” which missionary school did they teach you to lie at?

May Allah reward you

Very interesting .. Pinnacle was that there is no change in the text .

I have looked at several studies of these parchments. They said the only difference between them and modern Qur'ans is say the length of an elongation within a word in a few instances. Allah knows best

Another amazing and blood boiling podcast (I'm being sarcastic brother Paul) 🌝 what an incredible presentation, bravo brother Paul bravo👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 my respects to this reverend scholar, you are a witness that his statements are nothing but the truth. Brother Paul you should brand these type of conversations Golden moments. Wallahi what a wonderful and great work you're doing. How are things for you in France? Have you met with the Muslims there? May Allah keep you safe and bring you safe back to the UK. Masha'Allah you look nice and neat in your red Polo 😆👍👌. There's so much that can be said about all the scholars you've dialogued with, these are the type of scholars whom Allah makes reference in the Qu'ran about, that they are not arrogant and they believe in the truth sent by Allah.

Paul salam from Bangladesh

@BloggingTheology

3 жыл бұрын

Salam!

@pr7049

3 жыл бұрын

Please watch Christian Prince channel😌👍🙏

@salut4396

3 жыл бұрын

@@pr7049 Worst channel Ever

What did he say were the names of the 'infernal trinity'? Last one sounded like Temujin. Edit: he repeats it later though again not too clearly, fortunately the reference to Song of Roland was enough. Mahum/Muhammed, Apolin/Apollyon, and Tervagan

If you're in Nice, allow me to invite you for lunch dear Paul

@BloggingTheology

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds great!

Radiocarbon dating relies on reference samples. Trees are often used as sample references as the tree rings from very, very old trees can give us accurate radiocarbon atmospheric levels for hundreds of years. Other references are also used, and because oceans can trap carbon there are differences between references in the Northern and Southern hemispheres. Okay so the upshot is that the accuracy of dating depends on these reference samples and these references are constantly updated and there are often recalibrations. In general the error can be on the order of 20 years. So not only the animal was killed later but that then the skin was used for writing later again. Hope this helps in understanding how radiocarbon dating dates samples and gives a date range which represents the variation in the reference samples carbon levels.

Please, add subtitle.

Dear father David Thomas, I found it very perplexing to my deep intelligence, that you seem to be very erudite and educated, and know much about Islam, and obviously possessing superior knowledge about Christianity, yet you would choose Christianity over Islam. I wish you spoke Arabic, and what I come to know about the Qur'an and its contents is dazzling, psychologically, factually, and every other humanistic discipline that we know of, even some of the verses which are negatively quoted by the detractors or those who are so staunch polemics of that religion, I found them to be so useful to a refined human existence.

Alhamdulillah! Allah had promised in His Quran that it is Him Who will preserve His Words till the end of times! So there is no surprise here....we believe in His words and we surrender to His will....Alhamdulillah.

Mr. Williams or Bother Paul (I am not sure what do you prefer), I have been following your channel for a few months and I am thoroughly impressed by your study as well as interviewing skills. I would like to make a few points in particular, 1) Mr. Thomas is a well respected academic but is also the reason why there's what some might call a growing rift between believing Christians and Muslims. How can they come closer and form stronger ties when eminent scholars don't even believe in Prophecy of Muhammad? I mean he politely put Muhammad in the same club as Nelson Mandela with no disrespect to Mr. Mandela. 2) To Muslims, Muhammad (PBUH) is not just a prophet but has a more elevated status as a Messenger and one who is taken as a friend by Allah besides Ibrahim (Abraham). 3) In Quran, Jesus (Isa ibn Mariam) also has an elevated status. He's not same as Jacob, David or Solomon. He's the promised Messiah to the Israelite, born to Mariam (who is announced as the chosen one as well as the most blessed of all women) and Quran notes that Jesus is given the knowledge of the scripture (Quran), Torah and Bible. He's also the most important eschatological figure as symbolized by Quran and noted by Nabi Muhammad. One of the signs of Qiyamah is that son of Mary will return. Most Christians aren't aware that Muslims believe in this or that they are "also" waiting for the Messiah to return. 4) You have noted many times that most Muslims have never read the Bible and most Christians have never read Quran. I cannot speak for Christians but I can tell you that most Muslims I know have never read (understood) the Quran either. They choose to continue to recite it in Arabic without ever getting their hands on a translation that they can understand or comprehend (majority of Muslims today are not Arabic speaking). They also do not understand what Christian Trinity is and what it stands for. 5) I also find that most of my Christian friends have no research of their own, they are taught Jesus is God from the cradle and is what is reinforced at their local church. There's false information everywhere. Add to that those are brainwashed in Muslim camps and the situation gets far worse. 6) Eminent scholar Imran Hosein has done a lot of work educating Muslim masses about Christian doctrine. He is also the most prominent scholar of Islamic eschatology (to my knowledge). He has spoken numerous times about return of Isa and what this means for Muslims at the end of time (prepare to be surprised, his belief isn't the popular Muslim belief). His channel is: kzread.info. Perhaps you can invite him for a one on one, I am certain it would make for an enlightening discussion amongst the two of you. Keep up your fantastic work educating the masses and may God be on your side in your quest for knowledge and the truth. I wish the same for everyone who has the thirst.

He is saying as a scholar its not wise to say that if we have 20% of the Quran identical to what we have today in those early manuscripts but is suggesting that there maybe verses added or substracted from the quran to help the core idealogical beliefs based on what evidence? If i got that correctly. You can correct me if im wrong.

@MuslimPrince_

3 жыл бұрын

He never said this, watch again

SUBHANALLAH.! Honestly its just Amazing. Who could have even imagined that a fragment of the Holy Qur'an, In its original format. Probably, most likely kept or written by either a Sahaba ( companion) Or a Tabiheen ( students of companions) ? 1000+ years ago. To having ended up in a university of Birmingham. ALLAH knows best.!

And as you said the Quran is a recitation, and was transmitted as a recitation. A fragment no matter how old it is still a piece of paper , or lethear on which text is written by an unknown scribe,. Unless we know for sure who wrote it.

This is the problem of western scholars examining the preservation of the Quran. They fail to consider the context of 7th century Arabia and the oral culture and method of transmission. The Quran's primary means of preservation is verbal transmission with isnad (chain of narration) and as such it is muttawatir, ie. the chains of corroborating narrations are too numerous for it to be anything but authentic. So the manuscript is secondary. In fact the Quran is first a recital and then it is Kitab, book. Of course it is wonderful to find manuscripts from this era, and strengthens the case for the authenticity of the Quran from the western paradigm. But from a Muslim perspective we have our own science of authentication and more importantly (from a faith perspective) a promise within the Quran itself that it will be preserved.

The prophet said:" One of the sign of the end of time is the sun rise in the West..."

@junaid2266

3 жыл бұрын

This has happened to other planets. It's called reverse geo rotation.

@thinktank8471

3 жыл бұрын

Anti christ will come from East, We already fulfilling for his arrival through West

Please make the captions available

True to his conscious...God guides whom He wills

What is sura 9:29 talks about.... Please explain the word and it's contest.... Blogging theology

Thank u brother Paul, I guess this answers Jay William claims about the different versions of Quran.

Another insiteful interview Paraphrasing abit here but I found it strange yet revealing that he essentially said that the Prophet Muhammed came to the Arabs to effectively recitify their behaviour and prime them for "true" monotheism in the form of the "Trinity". Trinity = "Pure Monotheism" If i understood correctly that is

@marvinolds6671

3 жыл бұрын

Yes; what a ridiculous statement. There is no such thing as "Trinitarian Monotheism". Its an oxymoron and dead-on-arrival.

Right from the days of prophet Muhammad sws there were always thousands and thousands of Muslims who kept Quraan by heart at all times and passed on to the descendants till date. We can test the texts of Quraan now in different parts of the world. If they are all similar even after more than 14 centuries we can conclude that it is intact without a shadow of doubt.

15:40 "raiding party"?!.. there was something called trade as well you know ..

Amazing, and interesting. Still it seems that non-believers will not be convinced about the accuracy of QURANIC words.

What I really wanna Know is how those early quranic fragments get to France and Britian ????

salam Paul I want to add a comment about a video I think you will find very interesting, but youtube keeps deleting it, the video about more than 1000 verses of the Quran carved into stones in different places in Al-Madinah, and the researcher said it probably was carved at the time of the Prophet. The video unfortunately in Arabic only, but I think you could manage to get someone to translate it for you.

@NadDew

3 жыл бұрын

if you are interested I can send the link via Twitter.

@parrotboypirate7357

3 жыл бұрын

Link?

@NadDew

3 жыл бұрын

@@parrotboypirate7357 I'll give you the link in the next reply, let's hope youtube allow it

@NadDew

3 жыл бұрын

@@parrotboypirate7357 kzread.info/dash/bejne/jJ6ozpqnoMqwZMY.html

@NadDew

3 жыл бұрын

@@parrotboypirate7357 I add the link it appears to me, but sometimes youtube does this evil thing it deletes the comment they suspect it is spam from everyone except the one who wrote it.

The authenticity and fidelity of the Quran comes from the memorized version, not by the written text. The Prophet (pbuh) was made to memorize the entire Quran by Archangel Jibrael over a period of 23 years (around 609 AD to 632 AD), and the Prophet in turn had lot of his companions memorize the Quran too. The Quran was written in bit and pieces on parchments, leather, wood, leaves, cloth etc. even when the Prophet was alive. Fearing that the loss of many reciters of the Quran in the battlefield would jeopardize the existence of the Quran, the first Caliph Abu Bakr (pbuh) has ordered compiling of the Quran soon after death of the Prophet (pbuh). The compiling continued during time of the second Caliph Omar (pbuh) and finally the standardized written version of the Quran was completed by the third Caliph Osman (pbuh). Throughout the Islamic history the Muslim relied more on the memorized version (which is always accurate and authentic) than the written version. When there is a discrepancy, the memorized version over-rides after it is verified by more than one reciters.

So its fair to say that *until now* , we have not found quran from Othmanic Pattern that is different that the one we read today..... But we can *speculate that there are perhaps* manuscripts that could be different....

i Miss the time stamps

@BloggingTheology

3 жыл бұрын

i hope shortly!