The Puma Is Incredibly Balanced
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War Thunder's latest update, Wind of Change, seems to be introducing a lot of unbalanced vehicles. The German PUMA IFV fits this theme very well. Remember when the Strf 9040B was added at a battle rating of 8.3 and clubbed for a while, despite being an IFV with no missiles and only an autocannon? The PUMA is pretty much the same deal, except it is also practically immune to HEAT, has an unmanned turret, MUSS active protection system, gen 2 thermals, and 400 continuous rounds of APFSDS. All at a BR of 8.3 in realistic battles. You would think Gaijin would know better by now, but apparently not. The PUMA is very overpowered right now, despite being modeled incorrectly.
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@Youllpayforthat
2 жыл бұрын
although i enjoy your more "planned out" videos, this certainly wasnt a letdown
@nick230699
2 жыл бұрын
If this should be 9.0 what BR should the bmp2m be certainly 9.7 then no? Also if that eland is sad imagine the maus
@Spookston
2 жыл бұрын
@@nick230699 Yes, the BMP-2M is extremely undertiered.
@FatherGrigori
2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy this type of content from you, and I have no clue how gaijin let this thing out at 8.3
@headlinehunter
2 жыл бұрын
I cant belive you liked my comment that made my day cus my cat is sick and it wont live long😥
"im playing fps hes playing survival horror" perfectly encapsulates the puma
@user-rf2xl6ph7b
2 жыл бұрын
Its like old IS-6 at which u can (with 1 least one more friend on IS-6) ran forward and dont give a fok about enemies
@AlexNV75
2 жыл бұрын
Point and click adventure*
@pitnorman
2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexNV75 with German friends!
@shanekhiu9884
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-rf2xl6ph7b yeah like when IS-6 was at 6.7 for a while. Absolute stomp.
@halonut96
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-rf2xl6ph7b I honestly miss those days
Gaijin: "After immense player feedback and statistic reviews we have decided to buff the PUMA and move it to 8.0"
@sarttee
2 жыл бұрын
Germany Suffers, dontcha know!
@worldoftancraft
2 жыл бұрын
Jormanska zuffer, ju don't understand
@cqpp
2 жыл бұрын
not the bmp or T-72 so it will go up in br probably to 8.7
@auraytb3602
2 жыл бұрын
9.3 I hope
@marcogenovesi8570
2 жыл бұрын
yeah I too love clubbing baby seals in my spare time
coming back to this video after a year and PUMA now being at 10.0, its definetly subject to change
"I'm playing a FPS, he is playing a survival horror" that KILLED me💀
@thesaddestdude3575
2 жыл бұрын
Such a great line, i mean his name is spookston, he delivers a ton of spooks.
"Whatever comes through that wall you will stand your ground!" Puma: *400 rounds of continuous apfsds "I fear no man, not even death, for I am him."
@exo068
2 жыл бұрын
Spike gets added and it’s like the real thing: “I, Skeletor (PUMA), am Master of the Universe!”
@nitesy381
2 жыл бұрын
*_3.0 R3T20 flashbacks_*
@thegrandnagus5271
2 жыл бұрын
Ruined the 8.0s
@thesaddestdude3575
2 жыл бұрын
To be fair the PUMAs firepower isnt too insane, and its weak from behind, at the same time though, it can soak up so much.
@PaletoB
2 жыл бұрын
Playing 7.3, the sound of that gun is what I fear the most. Then I instantly know Im in 8,3... 😰
I know you like making your shorter content, but its great just to see you having some fun and testing stuff out. I, personally, would love to see more of this type of content. Its great to see your reactions to things sometimes. Thank you for providing us with such amazing entertainment! 10/10
@Rumpelpumpel3
2 жыл бұрын
absolutely! was very refreshing to see this type of content
@antoncabotta5364
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@charbonmetalfiber5018
2 жыл бұрын
i agree, I love this video format
@phoenixgn9655
2 жыл бұрын
I Feel the same
@daxlucero2437
2 жыл бұрын
This is short content
then: "puma at 8.3" now : "puma at 10.0" 💀
@quan-uo5ws
Ай бұрын
Atleast the bmp2m is at 10.0 too thank god
@wt_god
Ай бұрын
@@quan-uo5wsnah 10.0 too low move it to 11.7
@quan-uo5ws
Ай бұрын
@@wt_god 10.7 would be alright
Im proud to say that I served 3 years as a german mechanized infantryman with this tank. An amazing vehicle
@attiladerhunne2998
Жыл бұрын
Pls don't leak stuff about it ;-)
@furiousredeem1207
Жыл бұрын
Not a tank....
@Germane075
Жыл бұрын
@@furiousredeem1207 oh ok internet warrior what else is it?
@furiousredeem1207
Жыл бұрын
@@Germane075 an infantry fighting vehicle or Schützenpanzer in your shitty old European language.
@Germane075
Жыл бұрын
@@furiousredeem1207 yeah and do you know the german word for tank? Its panzer. Schützenpanzer means „Infantry Tank“. And english is also an european language?
If i remember, the PUMA cannon is a open-breech one, which allows it to have 2 belts going at the same time, there why the insta-reload, but odd that when switching belts, it doesnt do the same. I actually took it at 9.0 and it performed the same, mostly becasue there were more light armor that high, yet, the turret is a issue since a shot may take all your ammo out, disable vertical (often), horizontal, or damage the gun. oh, and the MUSS somewhat is a spotlight when turned on in the infrared sight (not thermal), so you may want to bind the turn off setting for IRCMs.
@evo3s75
2 жыл бұрын
the MUSS should actually be turned off at all times and automatically activate when it detects a missile (when it does the MUSS jammer turns towards the missile and it flickers on and off so fast that you can't pick it up with thermals)
@dotEXCEI_
2 жыл бұрын
its missing the 600rpm bustfire mode
@exo068
2 жыл бұрын
The MUSS should be 360 degrees but it is currently just dazzling in the way the turret looks. It’s also able to block 4 missiles at once. With that capability you are literally a demigod.
@ramonlujan2377
2 жыл бұрын
it needs to be put at 11.0
@lexmen1089
2 жыл бұрын
@@ramonlujan2377 If the Puma goes that up because of reliable protection and APFSDS in autocannon form, then M3A3 Bradley should be at 10.0 since it trades protection with nasty TOW-2s, and capability to fire behind cover (exposing only the Launcher and commander optic).
By saying : "Just not 8.3", means gaijin can now officially take it down to 8.0 and 7.7
@Micsmit_45
2 жыл бұрын
Reserve PUMA here wo go! xD
@RedShocktrooperRST
2 жыл бұрын
Both Pumas in the same lineup.
@dasschwarzelicht4023
Жыл бұрын
it's 9.3 now, i just checked it
@BinaryKiller_Recoded
Жыл бұрын
@@dasschwarzelicht4023 Yeah, this comment thread was created when the PUMA first came out :/
@edim108
Жыл бұрын
@@dasschwarzelicht4023 there is SOME justice in the world...
As a Russian tech tree player, my teams at 8.3 are getting shredded by this thing match after match. Not pulling the 'broken' card on it, as its very killable; but give the Puma to a competent player who knows the maps well and your team will fold like a house of cards every single time.
@TheMightyClay
Жыл бұрын
Me who couldn’t grind Israel 7.3-7.7 because all my matches were up br to 8.3 getting ass fucked by a tank with gen 2 thermals when none of my tanks even had a stabilizer 🤣🤣🤣
@lootizin8068
Жыл бұрын
Honestly kinda deserved because russia absolutely dominates from 3.0 to 6.0. I had nothing but uptiers against russians
@alexmaximus9134
11 ай бұрын
8.3? Ah, that BR is one of the best. You have tanks like IS-7, T-10M, T-55, T-62, BMP-2, and perhaps some others that i forgot to mention. The puma is annoying to deal with, but, if you have anything other than light tanks, never show flat side to it. It's good practice in general to always angle the tank slightly when taking a corner. The thing is that, both its weakspot and the turret are very inconsistent. I shot the ammo in the turret like 4 times and none of the times when i killed a puma was by an ammo detonation. And most of my kills were on clueless german players rushing blindly. If you want some strong russian lineups, check out 4.3; 5.7; 7.7; 8.3; 8.7; 11.3. My favourite BR to grind is 7.7 because of almost constant downtiers to shread 6.7s which can't do anything to my IS-4M or IS-6. My second favourite is 5.7 (or 6.0) where i can bully an entire lobby with the KV-220, T-34-85, IS-1, ISU-122S for 5.7 or SU-100 for 6.0 and IS-2 for 6.0. For SPAA, BTR-ZD for the 5.7 lineup and the praga for the 6.0 lineup.
I've been playing the AH1G on the PVE event and yes, if the gunner is out you cannot use the 7.62miniguns or the 40mm if you have it equipped. But can still shoot the hydras. 1:30
@ThePolish2107
2 жыл бұрын
Also with things like Apaches you can't use the ATGMs, and I'm pretty sure the chaingun is disabled too
@ektor1729
2 жыл бұрын
oh no what will i do without my 7.62s
@TheAmazingCowpig
2 жыл бұрын
Considering how fast the AH-1G dies in Ground RB most of the time, and most of the damage comes from the Hydras, the gunner-operated 40mm is... not the most important in that scenario. Which is sort of what I feel Spook was getting at.
@ektor1729
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAmazingCowpig wym? 7.62 is the best wheapon system in the game
"I'm playing an FPS, he's playing survival horror" nearly made me spit out my drink. Well said!
The APS isn’t even working correctly to its irl counterpart which can automatically detect and counter up to four missiles at once. I honestly expected the Puma to get wreaked but I’ve consistently hit aces with it
@KSmithwick1989
Жыл бұрын
Now imagine ever having to fight a Puma, with modernized Soviet equipment in real life. With the Puma's equipment working as advertised.
@sheeplord4976
Жыл бұрын
@@KSmithwick1989 eh, pretty much any soviet tank could kill it with APFSDS. Only the BMPs would have issues, but the Puma is about the coat of a tank, so that isn't really fair.
@KSmithwick1989
Жыл бұрын
@sheep lord Granted the Spike LR on the Puma has a 4,000 m range and top-attack capability. Meaning it's well outside the range of Russian tanks. While also using superior optics.
@_wayward_494
Жыл бұрын
@@sheeplord4976 thats if you even get into range.
These day's its at 10.0. I always have to face these vehicles when they're introduced and are hilariously OP, but never manage to unlock them before their BR gets adjusted.
@Thekilleroftanks
28 күн бұрын
i got it just before the change and i would understand why it got the placement it had, the apds rounds are so fucking worthless grinding out to the apfsds was harder than pulling your own teeth out. but 120mm of pen at 8.3 became busted. and now it sits at 10.0 completely dead, because it really cant kill anything now.
now sitting at 10.0... damn
The Puma is making the T10 and heavies in general so much better. Most of the enemies I find at the 8.3 matches with my T10 M is pumas, which struggle to pen even at the sides.
@Future183
2 жыл бұрын
Not really depends on if u are a id*ot with the puma or using brain
@CryBite
2 жыл бұрын
Bro I'm getting a better KD in my T55A and T62s because pumas can't pen me anywhere no matter how hard they try while you can easily oneshot them with apcbc / apds
@ijn4438
2 жыл бұрын
@@CryBite My IS-7 has risen from the grave.
@noahdavis3236
2 жыл бұрын
Gentlemen, is it time for me to bring out my Object 279 from its glorious slumber?
@T00dl3s
2 жыл бұрын
Well, the Stock belt sucks and this is probably why it has trouble going through T-55s etc
Thank you tank furry, very cool!
Imo this thing perfectly complements the german SK-105, one is obnoxious up close the other is obnoxious from far away. This thing is literally like the PT-76-57 but with actual defense.
@sergejstojkovic8617
2 жыл бұрын
PT-76-57 is still more obnoxious than PUMA beacose APHE, while PUMA has only APSFDS
@alexbarboni6619
2 жыл бұрын
@@sergejstojkovic8617 only has APFSDS? Are you high? That round is insane out of a normal cannon let alone auto cannon who the hell uses APHE at high tier😂
@PAcifisti
2 жыл бұрын
@@alexbarboni6619 For a small flanker tank the APHE isn't that bad. It lets you oneshot-kill with a 0.5s reload autocannon. Also, welcome to fucking Frenchies and using SOLID SHOT AP at 7.3-7.7 so yeah... I would kill for some APHE instead
@alexbarboni6619
2 жыл бұрын
@@PAcifisti meh still rather have heatfs or apfsds and wow really they only have solid shot? Jeez seems like the French needed that upgrade not the Germans hopefully they get some love soon cause that must be hell
@PAcifisti
2 жыл бұрын
@@alexbarboni6619 Most of the French vehicles in the 7.0-7.7 bracket that have only solid shot AP available. The rest have only HEAT available. Char 25 (7.3) did get APHE added to it, but it comes at the cost of only 200mm pen at 7.3 It's because they're mostly ancient as fuck, from like 1950's era.
The main problem is the survivability of the Puma. I was running into it earlier and I noticed even well placed shots in the middle of the vehicle would only take out like one compartment like the radiator or transmission. So then I decided to test it out in the armor viewer, and I noticed that APFSDS and sometimes APDS are the only things that can reliably kill it, and even then it still needs to be a good shot. HEAT and ATGMs, even from the front, will still barely do anything. I tested the Bradley’s ATGM right where the gunner and driver are and the optics ate up the shot. Also it makes it even harder to kill whenever there’s no crew in the turret, the ammo never goes off, and the cannon breach is really small so it doesn’t get hit much. It also has armor panels on the inside that will block any shrapnel and even stop a round from continuing on through the tank.
@Galaxy-oy4nj
Жыл бұрын
Now it is less survivable, yet i still prefer to fire 2 9M133 rockets from BMP-2M just to be safe
overall what gaijin has done with the puma is illogical not only does it have what it should but it still manages to be a lower BR than what it should be though its stock grind is extremely painful due to 2/3rds of its rounds being HE
@lexmen1089
2 жыл бұрын
I call it bs. yea, having 1 out of 3 round to be APDS iis painful, but the entire thing is just taking shot most of the time, and having those HE is good against aircraft.
@averagedarksoulsplayer4138
2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t it have a missile launcher irl?
@eyyze
2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't do what it should actually.
@ColorHawk_
2 жыл бұрын
@@averagedarksoulsplayer4138 not officially and It currently doesn’t have any place to store extra ATGMs so you would only get the 2 available in the launcher
@averagedarksoulsplayer4138
2 жыл бұрын
@@ColorHawk_ thank you
Aaaaand now it’s 10.0
Pumas at 9.7 are still very good -some guy who experienced pumas at 9.7
@loge9981
Жыл бұрын
@GavinMFR: its at 9.3
@GavinMFR
Жыл бұрын
@@loge9981 lol
I like how you improve your content
It's quite painful fighting this vehicle with the Magach 1 and Magach 2 at 7.3 and being uptiered into 8.3 with the Puma dominating.
@Slycarlo
2 жыл бұрын
Merkava mk 2d is actually a good counter for puma
@jacksonmusgrove6340
2 жыл бұрын
@@Slycarlo I suppose but I don't want to bring 7.3 tanks into 9.0 lol
@lexmen1089
2 жыл бұрын
And then there I was firing 2 TOW-2A towards a Merkava Mk 4M, aswell a DM43 from a 2PL TO THE SIDE WHILE AT A 50* ANGLE
@CryBite
2 жыл бұрын
Bro I'm getting a better KD in my T55A and T62s because pumas can't pen me anywhere no matter how hard they try while you can easily oneshot them with apcbc / apds Get a solid shot thats all it takes EDIT: if you got heat just shoot the turret then finish it in the drivers port .. Two shots like any other vehicle
@gaiofattos2
2 жыл бұрын
@@CryBite Even HE will blow up Puma
still intresting that gaijin still has the option to add the Spike ATGM launcher to it and Rheinmetal also produces 50mm PELE shells, these could make it quite neasty, since they will then act more like Hesh/APHE than Darts, while being inert. -edit they also make 30mm PELE, tought they added the 50mm variant not the 30mm Variant
@aenaros6845
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, PELE projectiles are like apfsds munitions with hesh afterefect. Basically a way to bring back some of that old spalling.
@gaychampagnesocialist7213
2 жыл бұрын
I think adding the Spike would be fine, but ONLY if they kept the ammo inherently extremely limited, maybe even completely non reloading. Mind you, this is at 9.0 plus. Giving this thing any more toys at 8.3 would be horror.
@cqpp
2 жыл бұрын
@@gaychampagnesocialist7213 no they should add the other variants as separate vehicles, move the current puma to 8.7 and ass a puma with limited spikes at 9.3+ possibly 10.0
@aratay3117
2 жыл бұрын
@@cqpp if it has the real lock fire and forget,non line of sight,auto targeting the next guy if it loses it's target, it's going to 11.0. Spikes with like 3 vehicles that have systems to counter it would be retarded asf
And now it’s 10.0. And probably will be 10.3 when they give it spike missiles
The thing is, it is still missing about 60% of its armor and most subsystems are also not correct. Currently, the only IFV in the world that is better protected than it is probably the T-15. The Puma should be straight 10.3 or higher if they fix it. With Spikes, 12.0+ Here is a short list of what is wrong: -2 layers of armor on the UFP are missing (Edit: Seems fixed now) -The frontal "exterior fuel tanks" are actually AMAP Armor inserts that can be taken out to lower weight for transport in a A400M -LFP is wrong -Sides are missing additional armor under the ERA and on the lower hull sides -The front corner boxes are also armor (not sure if ERA or passive) not 5mm structural steel -The back is missing armor (should be protected against russian 14.5mm) -Turret is missing NERA armor plates -CLARA ERA is missing its KE protection -CLARA ERA on the Puma is only triggered by EFPs and insensitve to other attacks(such as KE), so it should only explode when hit by HEAT (More sensitive CLARA exists but is not used) -Transmission is wrong, should be 6/6 not 10/5 -Reverse is wrong. It is not capped at -30kmh -Thermals are still wrong (i think ?) should be gen3 (the forums found the actual resolution+zoom and angle) -Commander optics is missing zoom -MUSS is broken, should provide 360° by 70° protection -MUSS directional auto smoke is missing -Helicopter warning is missing -PMC308 HETF should be KETF -FCS for the KETF Ammo is missing, (makes it act like proxy fuze, can Auto track & lead Helis) -Ammo feed is wrong. Should be 200 rounds contious feed, then reload from Hull ammo -Gun feed is wrong, it is open bolt double fed. There is no delay between ammo switching -Name is wrong, ffs. Should be "Spz. Puma" not "PUMA". Edits: updated / fixed some spelling
@exo068
2 жыл бұрын
With spikes it would need a whole new tier. They can be fired and track a target like the PARS3 that’s op, but they can also be fired without locking on a target and either be manually guided by the onboard camera or be locked on someone. Just imagine what you could do. Sitting back on a cap point and spamming missiles that can automatically follow targets.
@dontkev3001
2 жыл бұрын
Btw, the Thermal is right, Gen 3 it's already in the game, Spookston was just wrong with his guess
@13deadghosts
2 жыл бұрын
@@exo068 I know, that was the reason why i said BR 12.0+ where it wouldn't face any of the current tanks. The black night would probably be fine due to aps (Puma would only have two missiles, no reloads i think?), but everything else is fucked.
@exo068
2 жыл бұрын
@@13deadghosts I guess it has more then 2. The missiles wouldn’t be a real problem even if they are implemented like in real life like you said. Most nations already have a tank with APS or at least a demonstrator. They will probably add more tanks with APS first and then go with missiles like the spike.
@mrprism5382
2 жыл бұрын
As a frequent poster in the Puma thread it really should be 10.7 or up if it gets its full armor, AHEAD functionality, and a dumbed down version of MULL
2:46 As someone who has fought these in a Sheridan. Yeah. If you are in a Sheridan, same goes for the Starship, you don't fight these, you go somewhere else. You can't even bonk them with your HE, as, unless the turret is facing over the Puma's front thus allowing you to splash the driver's hatch, there is nowhere to reliably kill the crew. Sure you can maim the shit out of its turret, but the Puma is wrapped in a cage as well. So a hit on the back won't do anything.
@arziac2677
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I managed to fight a Puma and win with my Starship, but the fucker absorbed 3 shot of Heat.
@jonathanallen3688
2 жыл бұрын
All of US 8.0 is fucking fodder for these things. I put 600 rounds from the 163 into one and didnt kill it.
@arziac2677
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanallen3688 right?! And the big issue is that there really isn't a good way of dealing with them at all. They tank everything and anything like nobody's business. I don't care if the lower hull is "vulnerable." Uou just can't DO anything to them
@jonathanallen3688
2 жыл бұрын
@@arziac2677 i put 7 darts thru it with the AGS and couldnt get any spall to hit the crew could only see the top right half the transmission, radiator and engine ate all of it. And if it aint this cancer its the fucking anti everythin bagel panzer. Germany doesnt even have to field an MBT in 8.0 to 9.3 range right now to have the most meta lineups.
@arziac2677
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanallen3688 yep. That's the other thing too. Why make a loadout when you just bring this?
One year later and puma is on 10.0
update its 10.0 now
@testaccount7569
3 ай бұрын
and its still good
I absolutely love this format of videos. Your reactions and commentary during playing is just fun to listen to and watch. I would more than enjoy more videos like this and the M41 one. Keep up the good work spookston!
It seems that Sleepy Spookston is easy to make laugh ahah. It's good to see you do a different kind of editing it gives a kind of fresh or new to your usual doing but I also like the more shorter content. Great videos!
It really does show how powerful the PUMA was at 8.3 that it has found its place in 10.0
@Vollpfosten
5 ай бұрын
It's pretty bad at 10.0
@eikhorn1177
4 ай бұрын
@@Vollpfosten Im still enjoying it at 10.0. Just don’t play it like an MBT. Flank and you’re having a good time. Obj. 292 und T-72 are a walk in the park if you get them from the side. Obj. 292 can even be killed from the front in CQB just shoot them in the drivers port. Or shoot into the breech. Had times that the spalling from the breech killed commander / gunner. Don’t first spawn in it tho
@Vollpfosten
4 ай бұрын
@@eikhorn1177 everything is a walk in the park when they don't shoot back and flanking is almost impossible on most maps. (I have spaded the Vilkas so I know how to play the 30mm) The PUMA should be at 9.7 or get spikes
@eikhorn1177
4 ай бұрын
@@Vollpfosten Yes, but people keep playing it like an MBT and complain they can’t face off an Abrams or T-90 frontally and honestly that way it simply shouldn’t be played. Well I think you can flank really well on most maps but I guess that’s just different interpretations of flanking. Regarding spikes on puma, I’m sure we’ll get a another Variant like we have with the 2 Marders. Maybe PUMA VJTF, with Spikes and 7.62 Coax, maybe a bit better armor. About the Vilkas, they are quite comparable for sure, but I don’t enjoy vilkas too much because of the hugh turn circle, it’s a wheeled vehicle afterall. Did they do smth to the spikes tho? I’ve been getting more kills consistently with them recently.
Having not watched some of your videos for a while, I really like having this new style of commentary from you! It feels different and refreshing from what I'd normally have expected!
Maybe try the ELC Bis as it is such a rat vehicle with how fast and tiny it is. The shell doesn't even have that much drop for a low pressure 90mm
@harrymack3565
2 жыл бұрын
It is in basically every way a better m56
I’ve played against those things in Russian 7.3-7.7 vehicles and my goodness are they annoying. Had the whole team shooting at them and they still wouldn’t die. And being in an IS-4M meant I shot him once and it crippled his gun and killed his Gunner but nothing else surprisingly and then I had to wait like 20 sec watching him get pelted and only dying after I fired my second shot. People at this tier either know where to shoot or just keep hammering his ER plates or whatever they are
@nahuelleandroarroyo
2 жыл бұрын
Aphe of your tank was ideal to kill it, something like a BMP might be trying to get through with no use
@MerlinJuergens
2 жыл бұрын
Cry. Now you know how it feels to face the P76-57
@Lewd-Tenant_Isan
2 жыл бұрын
@@MerlinJuergens exactly what i was gonna say lol, about time Russian mains got a taste of their own medicine
@chiefturion7134
2 жыл бұрын
pt-76-57 has literally no defense. If yah couldn't kill those things in a 1v1 then...
@TheOriginalThEBLanK
2 жыл бұрын
@@Lewd-Tenant_Isan PT-76-57 is undertiered, but at least it dies if you sneeze on it. Can't say the same about the puma.
this was extremely entertaining to watch, a more casual format and all that, and seeing you have fun. keep it up
Its beem moved up 1.7 br up to 10.0... almost two whole tiers
knocking out the gunner on the ah 1g makes it so they cant use the turret which usually houses twin 7.62mm miniguns or 40mm grenade launcher deadly if it is the 40mm
@smippycis6285
2 жыл бұрын
Yeap! But they can still fire the rockets which normally is the main source of damage. But th 40mm also does quite some dmg sometimes so no gunner helps a little.
@Solathoan
2 жыл бұрын
@@smippycis6285 Most of my kills are with the M129s lol, people seem to have trouble compensating for a hueycobra pounding their turret roof with HEDP
@smippycis6285
2 жыл бұрын
@@Solathoan Haha it do be like that most of them time especially when people aren't trying to shoot you down. I always lose my gunner early to the op dshk's so i rarely get to use my m129. :(
It's like Germany materialized all the frustration to face BMP pt76 57 and all the light tank cancer without anything to counter them, thing is, this frustration was too strong and now it's a massacre
@Micsmit_45
2 жыл бұрын
We manifested our inner Reichtangle xD
@sm0ke_186
2 жыл бұрын
and now the other mayor nations are suffering "pLs NuRf PuMa"
@MrViki60
2 жыл бұрын
Volkisch Ire
Spookston, everyone really knows you for your informative videos but your gameplay videos like this with commentary are just as good
Wtf PUMA at 8.3!?
Killing an AH-1G gunner lets the AH-1 still fire rockets/wing mounted guns, but the turret at the front becomes nonfunctional.
And some people unironically wanted it to be added with Spikes
@spaa2927
2 жыл бұрын
None of those people wanted to see Puma at 8.3 my butthurt friend. All they asked is accurate Puma with atgm system at 10.0 at least because thats where this ifv belongs. So go on and blame Gaijin for that.
@aeri1148
2 жыл бұрын
@@spaa2927 fr I’d be fine with it being 10.0 and higher if it got any of the missiles it got irl(I think spikes and another variant has tows?) but yeah it should move up to 9.0 as it is rn, bmp2m should go to 10.3 tho
@spaa2927
2 жыл бұрын
@@aeri1148 İ agree. None of these ifvs should stay at 8.0-9.0 br gap especially these 2.
@mrprism5382
2 жыл бұрын
@@aeri1148 no tows sadly I've checked, but Gaijin also has the ability to dumb down SPIKE into a manual guided missile for multiple other countries who use it
@aeri1148
2 жыл бұрын
@@spaa2927 yeah but istg those Chinese cars at 8.3 make me more angry lol
I really enjoyed this longer-form content! Well done! :D
Love the new format! Keep up these casual videos plzz
8.3 hmmm seems right btw love the live content
I love this style of video. We never really get to hear your real voice (normal speaking voice and reactions) so it’s really nice!
"Name another vehicle where you can just run straight at everybody and get like 4 kills before you die" That's easy. M4 105.
@1999Almaz
2 жыл бұрын
Not if you face something like KV-1 with actual brains in their head
@theoneandonlyartyom
2 жыл бұрын
@@1999Almaz bro ive been running into m4 105s at br 1.3
@kristofingaming9888
2 жыл бұрын
i love farming them as germans
I'm loving the mix up between shorter and longer vidoes you are doing recently
o lol now its at 10.0
Well, now its 10.0!
I would love more of this type of content from you
Loving this new format spookston!! Please keep it up!
7.3 to 8.7 is currently unplayable at this point with this thing running around, there's tanks from the late Korean war fighting a vehicle from 2015 with 3rd gen thermals, broken survivability and APFSDS rounds.
its 9.7 now :(
I like this kinda live commentary really cool keep it up man love your work
Love the raw gameplay, keep up the content, always great stuff
1 year later its 10.0 lol
I think the PUMA has the best sounding autocannon by far
@lusca6771
2 жыл бұрын
Let me show u the swedish suppremacy of CV9040
I love your live commentary videos instead of the old kill montages
damn that’s so relaxing to watch Ya doing a live commentary, i don’t know what but play something on live again
6:28 real hyena moment
Hopefully it goes to 9.3. It gets an autocannon, great protection against HEAT, a soft kill system, good sights, and insane survivability.
@goldfish587
2 жыл бұрын
I’m at 7.7 and I see it and I use heat so it’s pretty hard to pin it
@Jo-un6es
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh I'm facing this in my M60 and we wouls of fucked the Viet Kong to China if we had this kind of tech. But nah gotta face Future Tech Germans.
@reselutfu7361
2 жыл бұрын
Then give it missiles, and put the Bmp-2m up to 10.0
@darktemplardelta268
2 жыл бұрын
Gaijin really looked at this thing and said yup 8.3 material
@freddarau
2 жыл бұрын
@@goldfish587 it has 2022 era armor and its going against 1950s heat fs rounds.
Really liking the live content. you sound a lot more lively and it really makes the video more enjoyable to watch. Not that I didn't already enjoy your content, but that this new style is a really nice change.
Love the new format! Keep it up!
8.3 to 10.0 lmao
This is my first time actually watching "Gameplay/commentary" of Spookston and it's weird.
@crimeon1782
2 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable though
These live commentary videos are incredibly fun!
It's pretty good to see this kinda content its really chilled and entertaining :)
Would you be able to make a video on existing Japanese vehicles getting nerfed four major patches in a row?
I do think that it makes sense for balancing to have a 35 sec reload but it doesnt make sense in the actual design because the ammo is all in one belt and doesnt need to be reloaded
I do like this over the kill usual kill montage you made before with new vehicles
Loving the new video style! Keep it up!
I feel like they should just give it Tow’s or Tow-2’s and shove it up at 10.0 or 10.3 where it should realistically belong.
@Markus-zb5zd
2 жыл бұрын
IRL it's actually armed with MELLS and not TOW
Though it would probably be extremely cancerous, you could implement the spike like the PARS missile on the Tiger UHT, and put the Puma to at least 10.0
@zenoheilmann7829
9 ай бұрын
this has not aged well
Love the live commentary :D Great video!
Love the content! Great video as always
My very first experience with this thing was me in my bmp3 breaking its breach close quarters before firing 3 atgms and 1 and a half apds belts in to it and it survived The fourth atgm went through the side of the roof that slopes up knocking It out
@Inferi_Sententia
2 жыл бұрын
Cry about it
@qwispychild9491
2 жыл бұрын
@@Inferi_Sententia I did
@prathyushareddy9404
2 жыл бұрын
@@Inferi_Sententia wehraboo
@Inferi_Sententia
2 жыл бұрын
@@prathyushareddy9404 N*****
"1:35" knocking out the gunner on an AH-1G should disable the 40mm Grenade Launchers or the 7.62 minigun turret, depending on what you've got. External Ordnance isnt affected.
please continue videos like this It's amazing
Please make more videos like these, they are fantastic
As balanced as the Bmp-2M
This feels like watching PT-76-57 gameplay on release, except I'm 99% sure it'll actually get nerfed and moved more than .3BR up. Oh and it actually has a stock grind. Have fun with 87mm pen APDS on every 3rd shot, rest is HE.
@Adlumairsoft
2 жыл бұрын
yeah the stock grind is utter ass
@lexmen1089
2 жыл бұрын
People are used to spam the hell of autocannon and not count any of it. You just gotta remember than the APDS is a Red tracer, use it in a support role (like the Marder IFV) and just not fuck yourself over confidence in your armor, its really realiable, but doesnt mean that its impossible to pen.
@Adlumairsoft
2 жыл бұрын
@@lexmen1089 There is no infantry in WT as of now there for the HE is mostly useless (except for airtargets ofc) so what difference does your counting do? AP useless useless AP useless useless AP... and yeah if the game gives you ghostshells or just no dmg hits you kinda have to use "spam" the AUTOcannon
@Stoikor
2 жыл бұрын
Its 76-57 on steroids, at least that thing is easy to kill
@reinbeers5322
2 жыл бұрын
@@Stoikor it gets APHE and faster RoF
the fact I just got surprised by you laughing is kinda funny in itself, definitely want more of that ^^ I like this kinda content it's a bit more personal or however you would say that (it's like midnight for me rn I am too tired to properly word things)
I like this format! Do more like this please
1:18 100% agree. Actually, it's one of the reasons I still prefer the 2PL over the 2A5.
@nukaquantum7
2 жыл бұрын
I work for Krauss Maffei and the 2a5 and 6 all have better visuals than what is given to us in the game
@stuffzie8329
2 жыл бұрын
@@nukaquantum7 Sekrit dokuments when comrade? KGB will happily accept them.
@nukaquantum7
2 жыл бұрын
@@stuffzie8329 me njet Bri'ish tank Kommandant who leeks Sekret plans! Maybe next time comrade KGB :D
@stuffzie8329
2 жыл бұрын
@@nukaquantum7 Okay comrade On a more serious note, I wouldn't be surprised if the leos had better thermals, as gaijin is gaijin and don't do things properly.
@nukaquantum7
2 жыл бұрын
@@stuffzie8329 Well they admitted it in various threads that it would break the meta if they would give the leopard their full capabilities like thermal 2, correct speed and protection. Also the leo2A7 also got rejected several times due to being too strong against russian and american tanks which most likely would happen. Same with gepard (which has thermals and more than just 40 rounds for ground targets) they could at least give the 2A5 and 6 thermal2 and a power Upgrade for the FlaRakRad which absolutely can accelerate at a much faster rate.. It is a fricking powerhouse it will drive through forest and on muddy roads up to 40km/h and wont be defeated by a small Hill... But gaijin just doesnt want germany to be as good as in real life. Like come on.. 3 direct Hits at the same Spot and the reactive armor of that T80 is still there..
can you make a "what if puma was realistic?" video. That would be funny as heck. XD ... you just could put it right to 10.0 considering its just a vehicle against light armourd infantry
I do like the live commentary that you're doing now
The 1984 thing caught me off guard, made me chuckle Love the new format you’ve been doing.
From my experience playing it, I feel it should go up to 8.7 mayyybe 9.0 bc yes you can still perform up that high but then you’re not as survivable since a lot more things have apfsds especially if you get up-tiered to 10
@TheAmazingCowpig
2 жыл бұрын
It's not about the vehicle itself being potentially gimped by going up, it's that it's an absolutely unhealthy presence for basically any vehicle below its BR. There are a ton of 8.0 tanks that just have no option against this thing in a majority of scenarios. That is horrible game design. Besides, a lot of vehicles aren't too survivable anyways at 9.0+, why should it matter for the PUMA. How is this thing significantly different from the Strf 9040 that sits up there? Honestly, 9.0-9.3 is where this should be, 8.7 isn't far enough.
@PAcifisti
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAmazingCowpig Ton of 8.0 tanks? On EU server for the last month or so 7.3 has been a permanent 8.3 uptier for pretty much Every Single Game. Now imagine dealing with this nonsense on HEAT spamming 7.0-7.3 lineup without stabilizers, rangefinders, thermals or even night vision.
@PaletoB
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAmazingCowpig Yea, cv90 is 10-15years older, worse protection but still higher br. 😖
@nekoezequiel
2 жыл бұрын
@@PAcifisti check on french vehicles, 8.0 and 8.3, finding anything with stabilizer is a nightmare and finding a PUMA is the freaking hell xd
@PAcifisti
2 жыл бұрын
@@nekoezequiel Sadly I know, I'm playing the French tree at 7.7 and there's still not a stabilizer in sight.
Revisiting this after it has just been (justifiably) moved up to 9.7 -- April 2023
@loge9981
Жыл бұрын
@Melle its not at 9.7, its at 9.3
@melle9155
Жыл бұрын
@@loge9981 it's 9.7
@loge9981
Жыл бұрын
@@melle9155 no. its not
@melle9155
Жыл бұрын
@@loge9981 im looking at it in the hangar buddy. Nine-point-seven
@akiara8491
Жыл бұрын
@@loge9981 either you're blind or trolling lul
Now puma is 10.0
I love these videos mate. Keep it up!
7:00 'ATGMS forget it, HEAT forget it, autocannons forget it'. Me who is listening to this while trying to peak a puma in my ZA-35, ah shit....
"name another vehicle where you can just run straight at everybody and get like 4 kills before you die" M4A2. The 4.0 75mm Sherman. My last match I just ran straight at enemies and angled just a bit if I missed, I wasn't doing anything smart, I wasn't particularly accurate, and I'm not even a high tier player, yet I got 9 kills and 2 assists before I died because I was being fired at by a stug and 2 other things at the same time.
I really like this style of content, Spook. Keep it up! :)
I wanna leave me comment and say that watching this was really nice. Usually you're direct and concise with your language but hearing you in a much more lax vibe was, well, relaxing.