The Problems with the Roman Republic: Tiberius Gracchus

A video about the life and times of Tiberius Gracchus and his contribution to the end of the Roman Republic. Sorry it's taken a while. Hope this will be the first in a few videos looking at the key figures and events in the last century of the republics life, and how they contributed to its fall.
Music: Bensound.com
Clips are from:
The Fall of the Roman Empire (1964)
Rome (HBO) (2005)
Ancient Rome: The Rise and Fall of an Empire (2006) BBC
Thank you all for watching and thanks to my subscribers for being patient. I promise the next one won't take as long.

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  • @Andy_Babb
    @Andy_Babb15 күн бұрын

    The algorithm is failing bc it took me way too long to find this channel

  • @tequilamockingbird758

    @tequilamockingbird758

    9 күн бұрын

    My thoughts exactly, how?

  • @Andy_Babb

    @Andy_Babb

    8 күн бұрын

    @@tequilamockingbird758 Idk. Algorithms suck? Couldn’t tell ya

  • @user-yc1kj9xc2b
    @user-yc1kj9xc2b Жыл бұрын

    This channel is a goldmine

  • @Andy_Babb

    @Andy_Babb

    15 күн бұрын

    It is, isn’t it? The algorithm is failing bc it took me way too long to find this channel

  • @TonyFontaine1988
    @TonyFontaine19888 ай бұрын

    How is this channel flying under the radar like this? It's a real historian

  • @richcole99
    @richcole9911 ай бұрын

    Exceptionally well-written and narrated. I think the Gracchi's story is the most interesting, and may be the most important, story in the history of Rome. You did it absolute justice. Looking forward to more!

  • @rajarshichakraborty8862
    @rajarshichakraborty8862 Жыл бұрын

    There we go, keep em coming

  • @Sasseverk
    @Sasseverk Жыл бұрын

    You're such a good narrator I keep getting swept away! This channel was a big part in reigniting my love of ancient Rome, to the point where I'm even studying Latin

  • @generichistory

    @generichistory

    Жыл бұрын

    If you're studying it, you'll probably be able to notice how poor my Latin is in future vids

  • @jeffcampbell1555

    @jeffcampbell1555

    Жыл бұрын

    Good for you!

  • @tbarrelier

    @tbarrelier

    11 күн бұрын

    Me too!

  • @Ghost23712
    @Ghost23712 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video! I was always curious about this period (plus what follows regarding Sulla and Marius) and this video really covered it in a brilliant way with a very gripping narrative! Thanks for the effort and I can't wait to see the next one.

  • @e.f.3207
    @e.f.3207Ай бұрын

    I love the long videos. Good job and thank you for the effort and the time it takes to do these videos so well. Brilliant.

  • @dianahazell6823
    @dianahazell6823 Жыл бұрын

    Another great video. Absorbing narrative and succinct presentation kept my attention throughout.

  • @chrisand3286
    @chrisand328610 ай бұрын

    this guy is fantastic! I do not know how he doesn't have a more views. Love your videos my friend and keep em comin!!

  • @jamesshields9375
    @jamesshields9375 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent work as always, I think these longer form videos allow for a good level of detail! I’m already looking forward to the next one 🙂 I was glad that you touched on the flaws inherent in the system rather than merely highlighting the escalation of violent precedent as a cause for the fall of the republic. I think in that lies the most prudent lesson of the Roman Republic, yet it is too often overlooked.

  • @DFameSR14
    @DFameSR1416 күн бұрын

    Another great video. The Farming and fighting portion was awesome

  • @inthetrencheswithcas1762
    @inthetrencheswithcas17622 ай бұрын

    Holly car this guy knows his shit I’m addicted

  • @jdhathrisen
    @jdhathrisen20 күн бұрын

    You definitely should have more views, dude. This content is really good.

  • @jansuminski9395
    @jansuminski93955 ай бұрын

    Oh my, one of the best historic video on YT I have ever encountered, I cannot believe it only has 3k views.. please keep making more, I am sure this channel will blow up one day!

  • @jasonodom9277
    @jasonodom92779 ай бұрын

    Super high quality content -- I watched it all. Thank you for this

  • @generichistory

    @generichistory

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks! A lot of work went into it so I’m glad you enjoyed it

  • @davidemiragliadonotsubscri5141
    @davidemiragliadonotsubscri51416 ай бұрын

    Great narration! Congratulations from Italy! I like to study many things about the ancient "Italian" republic, and your video was very useful for the purpose!

  • @juanig4198
    @juanig41987 ай бұрын

    unironically the bit about roman agriculture and military is one of the best analisis on roman life on this plataform, thanks

  • @deborahdrummond2699
    @deborahdrummond26997 ай бұрын

    Very interesting and informative !

  • @jannarkiewicz633
    @jannarkiewicz6335 ай бұрын

    You keep me entertained

  • @latintim9910
    @latintim9910 Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff

  • @hedgefield
    @hedgefieldАй бұрын

    This was great.

  • @sepo3451
    @sepo34515 күн бұрын

    Great storytelling!

  • @jonny-b4954
    @jonny-b49544 ай бұрын

    Its nice to realize most of those families and elites lost their...😢hopefully we see something in America soon. The parallels are absurdly on point

  • @flowtribe
    @flowtribe21 күн бұрын

    Your videos are fantastic. So glad I found your channel! If you’re ever in New Orleans give us a shout. Much love, thank you for the enlightening videos buddy

  • @generichistory

    @generichistory

    15 күн бұрын

    Thanks man!

  • @satiricalhaz-homeofbanter4371
    @satiricalhaz-homeofbanter4371 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video my man! Which popular figures from the roman republic will you focus on in future vids? Sulla and Marius? The Cato's? Cicero? Catiline?

  • @generichistory

    @generichistory

    Жыл бұрын

    Marius and Sulla for sure bro

  • @squiddles8
    @squiddles83 ай бұрын

    This channel is stellar and should have huge subs. But possibly the obvious parallel of Roman politics to the current USA's has relegated it to a certain algorithm.

  • @thoughtsuponatime847
    @thoughtsuponatime847 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic

  • @cleganebowldog6626
    @cleganebowldog6626 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. FYI around 33:00 a high pitched background noise comes in and makes it difficult to listen to.

  • @generichistory

    @generichistory

    Жыл бұрын

    I'll have a look to see if i can fix it

  • @theuncomfortabletruth3928
    @theuncomfortabletruth39289 ай бұрын

    Spectacular. English isn't my native language and so I have no words to accurately describe how well-narrated and descripted this video was. I congratulate you! I hope you continue with the series on how republican Rome met its end, because this video was gold. You earned a follower because of it. Also, I want to ask for your help regarding a doubt I have on this very topic (the republic's eventual fall). I'm not revealing my doubt right now because I have to carefuly articulate it and write it before I ask for your opinion. But I would be very happy if you could "confirm" that you would be willing to help me!

  • @generichistory

    @generichistory

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you! I do indeed hope to continue along the theme of the Roman republic. I'd be happy to help you with your doubt if I can.

  • @theuncomfortabletruth3928

    @theuncomfortabletruth3928

    8 ай бұрын

    Hi again. You are welcome. Thanks for answering! Sorry for this lenghted comment, but here I go: I don't know if you've read "Mortal Republic: How Rome Fell into Tyranny" by Edward Watts, but he has a new thesis I want to ask if you agree with or not. He basically claims the republic did not need to die. Its death was not inevitable. It could have been avoided (as in, the republic could have lasted much more than it historically did). That a republic is not an organism and therefore can only live or die based on the decisions taken by its custodians (politicians and the people in general). Its citizens took it for granted and therefore allowed political misbehavior by politicians, commanders, etc. which increasingly violated the republic's norms that had so far fostered compromise and agreement between politicians, misusing them instead as weapons of obstruction or intimidation, and in doing so they introduced political instability and violence from 133 on, which eventually caused its fall. That is, he blames the fall of the republic on its people and their harmful decisions, NOT on the social and economic problems the republic was facing before (and after) that date. This argument I will call "B". In the conclusion of his book, in explaining why the republic fell, he only mentions "B". He doesn't mention AT ALL the problems the republic was facing BEFORE that date and which according to many historians was what caused the death of the republic: the expansion of the republican empire and its related problems: economic inequality or the growth of latifundia, for example. This argument I will call "A". He of course acknowledges the existence of A, but greatly diminishes it in comparison to other historians. He merely says that A created a social climate in which it was possible (but not necessarily) that B occurs. So he acknowledges A, and he kinda acknowledges that A made B a possibility. But his thesis is that the republic fell solely because of B, not A. How far do you agree or disagree with this? And Why? Thank you!

  • @generichistory

    @generichistory

    8 ай бұрын

    @@theuncomfortabletruth3928 Personally I'm inclined to agree that the Roman Republics fall was not inevitable, at least not in the 130's. However, I don't think we can throw too much blame at the people living through it. Personally, I think that the republic was forced to change by the growth of its empire. A political system designed to govern a city state simply couldn't continue to function as before now that it had to deal with an enormous territory. It was how the republic changed to respond to this that would lay the foundations for its fall. I reckon the most consequential of these changes was the transformation of the legions from a citizen army to a paid professional force. This made it easier for Roman politicians seeking power to manipulate to troops into violently overthrowing republican institutions. However, it was also vital for the Roman legions to make such a change, as the old system of citizen soldiers was buckling under the weight of the new empire. In solving one problem, the Romans created a new one. So I don't think we can blame the Romans for the decisions they made that would eventually lead to the republics fall. Each of those decisions made sense in the context of the problem they were trying to solve, and would contribute the republics end in ways that really couldn't have been foreseen. The fall of the republic was, after all, a slow process lasting for over a century. It's impossible to point at one moment and say, "there.... that is when the republic was lost". It died a slow death as a result of multiple decisions made across three generations that were all made out of necessity to deal with the emerging problems of a fast-won empire. The fall was not inevitable, had the Romans made different decisions, maybe things would have gone differently. But the social, economic and political issues that they faced forced them to make decisions, the consequences of which only became clear years later. Sorry for the long winded response. I hope that answers the question :)

  • @theuncomfortabletruth3928

    @theuncomfortabletruth3928

    8 ай бұрын

    @@generichistory Thanks for the answer! Yes, by seeing your video I guessed that was/is your thesis. I think that's the most common among historians. I agree with most you say, especially that the republic's fall was not inevitable and was a long process of a century. Thanks again! 👍🙌

  • @Andy_Babb
    @Andy_Babb15 күн бұрын

    Ohhh this series is awesome. I need more lol Any chance of a video or series on the Germanic tribes?!

  • @generichistory

    @generichistory

    15 күн бұрын

    Funnily enough, my plan is for the video after the next one to be about the Germanic Tribes

  • @Andy_Babb

    @Andy_Babb

    15 күн бұрын

    @@generichistory You just made my day lol I’m pissed it took me so long to find your channel, your content is phenomenal. Really enjoying this series and definitely looking forward to seeing what ya come out with next! Thanks man!!

  • @jgiza8888
    @jgiza8888 Жыл бұрын

    Well done! Thank you for the education. You have a great speaking voice and not a dull moment in the whole video. My family ancestors are from Italy and the last few generations including myself are from the USA. I think the U.S. is in its decline and the true voice of her people is not heard nor will ever be allowed to be heard. The elite run my country and the Republic for which it was formed has fallen.

  • @generichistory

    @generichistory

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks :) I hope to get more into the parallels between the modern US and Ancient Rome in further videos

  • @ProvencaLeGaulois
    @ProvencaLeGaulois8 ай бұрын

    I just watched the three videos of Serapeum Historia on the same subject, did you guys work together or something? They are so similar!

  • @generichistory

    @generichistory

    8 ай бұрын

    No I'd never heard of them until I saw this comment! Will deffo give them a watch

  • @ProvencaLeGaulois

    @ProvencaLeGaulois

    8 ай бұрын

    @@generichistory I watched videos on the Gracchi brothers on 6 channels, yours and Serapeum Historia are by far the most comprehensive of them all, great job man.

  • @VeritasAmantesVocat
    @VeritasAmantesVocat12 күн бұрын

    Really, every time I hear something from Livy, I have to keep in mind he was surely afraid to end up on Augustus' Naughty List...

  • @jeffcampbell1555
    @jeffcampbell1555 Жыл бұрын

    Attempts to effect reform of the economic and political systems that favor the rich no longer result in the death of modern "tribunes of the people," but our system still allows the undoing of reforms in backrooms. I'm far from original here, but my diagnosis of what's poisoned US politics is, at root, the inability of the middle and working classes to maintain the New Deal reforms that evened the playing field of opportunity, distributed benefits more fairly, and inhibited the concentration of wealth. The rich still got richer but set out to demonize and incrementally outlaw state sanctioned equality and well-being as tyrannical and anti-American. Am I a fool for likening the New Deal to the lex Agraria? I think Americans left and right would recognize themselves in the dispossessed farmers of Rome and yearn for a Tiberius to break the rules if it will ease their desperation.

  • @generichistory

    @generichistory

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think you're a fool for likening the New Deal and the Lex Agraria. Comparisons between the late republic and modern America are pretty easy to make. in the original draft of this video I made quite a few, but ended up cutting them because I didn't want to get sidetracked into modern politics.

  • @jeffcampbell1555

    @jeffcampbell1555

    Жыл бұрын

    @@generichistory I hear you: Comments like mine above are troll magnets. As I listened to you, I wondered if all political troubles in the UK and US have an ancient equivalent in the long history of Rome. Was that a reason for teaching Roman history and Latin as a staple of Western education the 17th-early 20th centuries? You're by far my favorite history KZreadr: I retain so much more of your content, probably because of your wry delivery and funny illustrations. Just want you to know that.

  • @user-cv7nd6sw3t
    @user-cv7nd6sw3t15 күн бұрын

    1. The year of birth of Scipio Africanus was 236, not 136. 2. Although the theme of this video was the beginning of the fall of the Roman republic, it would be better if you had told us how much of Ager Public was distributed among the poor and how many poor people were settled there.

  • @boozecruiser
    @boozecruiserАй бұрын

    Wow I'm glad rich people nowadays are much more civil, they would never lie, be hypocrites or murder people who fought for the poor and wanted to redistribute wealth

  • @harrivideodiary
    @harrivideodiary Жыл бұрын

    Hiya, I'm writing essay and I want to cite on of your ideas/ interpretations (from a previous video) may I have a sir name please 😅

  • @generichistory

    @generichistory

    Жыл бұрын

    sure thing, hit me up on: generic.history.vid@gmail.com

  • @svllal.cornelivs2443
    @svllal.cornelivs24434 ай бұрын

    I have a question, if the 100 senators were appointed by Romulus, does that mean that there was a Senate at that era? even during the rule the 7 other kings? if so how did they tolerate 100 other man sharing the decisions? Also, first time I saw your videos I saied "whats Lucius vorenus doing here!" hehe great video thank you.

  • @generichistory

    @generichistory

    4 ай бұрын

    I honestly have no idea how Romulus' senate worked, or even if he had one. Most of Rome's early history is obscured by the "mists of time" that comes as a result of a lack of contemporary source material.

  • @svllal.cornelivs2443

    @svllal.cornelivs2443

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@generichistory gratitude for the reply, I know its an old video, but I discovered your channel recently and I intend to watch every video, I rarely watch videos for information, but I noticed you mention sources, and you actually have books in the background. respect! and thanks again.

  • @terranman4702
    @terranman47023 ай бұрын

    Boris Johnson comparing himself to Cincinnatus is halt true (He hated the plebs) and pathetic (Cincinnatus accomplished things in Power)

  • @JaMeshuggah
    @JaMeshuggah Жыл бұрын

    I hope I'm remembered for dying someday too

  • @chris10hi
    @chris10hi9 күн бұрын

    Great video, great information. One thing that needs to be added is the psychological aspect that exited along these fascinating developments of the Romans. That is that the Patricians spoke Classical Latin, a language that was complex and gave the leaders extra focus intensity and sense of urgency as this language changed and disappeared, the civilisation declined and fell, see kzread.info/dash/bejne/lp2F0rd7aNzRm5s.html

  • @Kerwin-Kendell
    @Kerwin-Kendell5 күн бұрын

    If only the video had visuals pertaining to the subject. I rarely like seeing the content provider.

  • @JoanEsbriCastell
    @JoanEsbriCastell4 ай бұрын

    You explain yourself as a GREAT professor at university would do.

  • @johnschmidt792
    @johnschmidt7929 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I keep hearing tribunes are sacred, then they get beaten then they get killed, beaten, killed. Was there ever an instance when this was ever enforced?

  • @generichistory

    @generichistory

    9 ай бұрын

    The only examples that spring to mind are Nasica (the guy who killed Tiberius Gracchus), who went off into a sort of exile after people threatened to prosecute him. And I suppose Mark Anthony, who was assaulted in Rome while tribune, and would serve as the justification for Caesar crossing the Rubicon. Tbh, before the Gracchi I don't think anyone ever needed to enforce the sacrosanctity of the Tribunes.

  • @speedymccreedy8785
    @speedymccreedy87853 күн бұрын

    No need to use the term BCE, Before Christ Existed, the shorter BC is quite acceptable. This raises the question as to whether the longer term BCE is preferred by people wearing scarves.

  • @realtalunkarku
    @realtalunkarku14 күн бұрын

    He wanted to help the people so he was killed

  • @davetremaine9688
    @davetremaine968815 күн бұрын

    13:00 - 13:15 If only mothers still felt this way about their children instead being girl bosses. Feminism was a massive mistake.

  • @deepakraag
    @deepakraag6 ай бұрын

    It's Superbus NOT Suburbus. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @nickrugg
    @nickrugg6 күн бұрын

    BCE….lame

  • @BOIOLA08
    @BOIOLA083 ай бұрын

    Listen Carthage was not a city of merchants (uniquely) it was also a city of farmers. So much so that when Carthage was burned to the ground, the only manuscript saved (that at least whent down in history as such) was De Agricultura by Mago, called the "the father of agriculture". Bear in mind that when Cato the Elder said Carthago delenda est, he was genuinely in shock that the city payed war reparations ahead of schedule, and it had neither navy or armies to speak of. Their empire and comercial entreposts gone... The gold egg laying goose was agriculture. So the romans were just biggots on that issue.