The problem with the WORLD'S CHEAPEST bullet train!
Bullet style high-speed trains are often expensive, but they don't have to be. I've found the cheapest high-speed train in the world, and it's the TCDD Yüksek Hızlı Tren (YHT) service in Turkey, travelling in Ekonomi Class!
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Journey Details:
Origin: Eskişehir
Destination: Ankara YHT
Company: TCDD Taşımacılık (Turkish State Railway Transport)
Train: TCDD HT65000 'CAF Sepia'
Accommodation: Ekonomi Class Seat (2nd)
Distance: 245 kilometres / 152 miles
Price: ₺45 (£2.40 / €2.90 / $3.30)
Time: 1h29m, 15 minutes late
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What's the CHEAPEST high-speed train journey you've had? 👇💬
@natewp
Жыл бұрын
10€ on occasion with the ICE in Germany
@hoverlordd
Жыл бұрын
Şuan da binerseniz 4.4€ ödersiniz😅
@transportromania
Жыл бұрын
DB ICE for free with a FIP coupon :)
@gabrielstevens3884
Жыл бұрын
I paid €19 for the Frecciarossa from Rome to Milan a few years ago which for the distance is a right bargain.
@SuperalbsTravels
Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielstevens3884 that's really good!
As a student in Ankara I can say you're absolutely right about the luggage problem. But besides TCDD's fault, passengers also guilty about it. They think 'We can leave luggage there so we can easily take it while unboarding. Still it's the best way to travel as a student because of the travel time and of course the ticket price.
@polnyjj
Жыл бұрын
not only the thing you mentioned also they think they can carry everything especially old people
@saidberk6599
Жыл бұрын
@@polnyjj they are announcing pickles are not allowed as a luggage in train :D
@uldurulenuniversiteogrenci6125
Жыл бұрын
Olm türkçe konuşsanıza
@saidberk6599
Жыл бұрын
@@uldurulenuniversiteogrenci6125 gardaş maksat küresel çapta duyurmak zaten neden Türkçe konuşalım?
@uldurulenuniversiteogrenci6125
Жыл бұрын
@@saidberk6599 Hayır onu demiyorum kendi aranızda altta konuşurken ingilizce konuşuyonuz, bizim çoğu türko anlamaz bunu
For anyone wondering, the food situation in trains have improved about 2-3 months after this video. There is now a decent cafeteria with better snacks and filter coffee from starbucks
@SuperalbsTravels
Жыл бұрын
Ooh, that's good to hear!
£2.40 to go for a 152 mile trip on a HST, that's definitely excellent value, even if there are "downsides"!
@chemistyr
Жыл бұрын
I live in istanbul and I am a 15 yrs old high schooler. with every holiday in school, I go near my big brother in ankara by this HST. if the train starts by 9 am(in pendik), lets say im there in 8:50 am. my parents drop me by car, but minibus service is 0,5 euro or smth. you can go by taxi for 5 euros I guess, try not to get scammed by drivers, as many will try. don't talk serious to them, if they ask you what do you do, you can say im an aerospace engineer in Goethe-institut (they will believe and if they don't, they won't beat you). I go to the ID control section which lasts max. of 2 minutes. if there is -say- 20 minutes to your train and there is hell lotta of queue, just ask them which train they are waiting for. the railways are very busy and they are prolly waiting for another train. next, I go upstairs to wait for my train. when train comes, just wait for a minute or so. if you can't find your carriage, just get inside a door. all of the carriages are connected. unless the train goes by without you, you WILL found your nice cozy seat. if there are people sitting in the seat where you are supposed to sit, double-check and say to them that that seat is yours, you bought it. there are being cases like that. if 12a-b or 1a-b are not selected by anyone, buy them instead of them all. there are like + >5cm of foot space in them. if you go with business class, they will give you some water and muffin. enjoy you go from pendik(istanbul) to ankara gar? 248 TL (12) euro has to be paid (10e with youth discount) i have been in this train for 4-6 times, there are no luggage scenarios like this one, I haven't seen any. this train goes 250kmh for 10 minutes or so. if i am going to sleep, I prefer to bring a jacket and inflatable pillow with me. I think this is it, I don't mind any "problems" mentioned in this video, i don't think it is claustrophobic as it may seem from the
@ZIGZAG12345
Жыл бұрын
@@chemistyr That was a pretty detailed reply! 👍
@lagg3sbd394
Жыл бұрын
Converting Turkish prices directly to western currencies is a bit misleading though, as our wages are a lot lower in terms of euro as well.
@chemistyr
Жыл бұрын
@@lagg3sbd394 the purpose was to convert two currencies. I think it shows how poor we are as well
@hupturiiiikk
Жыл бұрын
Next time, I will try 12a-b or 1a-b, and thx for your recommendation.
11:40 Fun fact: It is called Başkentray because Ankaray name was already taken by the city's light metro in 1996 (heavy metro is instead named Ankara Metrosu/Metro of Ankara) while Başkentray came about in 2018 after a 2-year complete rebuild of the old "Ankara banliyösü (Ankara suburban (rail))"
@Talha10
Жыл бұрын
Also başkent means capital and ray means rail. Capitalrail . A pretty nice name imo
12:15 you said it is 45TL for Eskişehir to Ankara but it is -60TL 75TL 90TL- 110TL now
Your pronouncation of "Eskişehir" was really good that I'm really impressed. Video is also really good and informational, appreciate it
I really appreciated your struggle to pronounce all words correctly, which is rare among foreign videos about Türkiye. Your pronunciations were nearly perfect that I was really amazed haha. Great video.
I am a regular traveller with the YHT between İstanbul and Ankara and found your review much to the point, emphasising rightly some of the oddities of train travel in Turkey. The TCDD remains a weird company, out of touch with accepted practice in the outside world. That there is only one door per carriage is just one striking example. Furthermore they have enormous resources and a large number of employees but only manage to run a limited number of trains.
@kampfpanzerleopard346
Жыл бұрын
The answer is corruption.
@fusionreactor7179
Жыл бұрын
@@kampfpanzerleopard346It is not
@fusionreactor7179
Жыл бұрын
They run limited lines because Turkey has a tiny amount of railroad and only a single High Speed Line from İstanbul to Ankara and Karaman. TCDD is only the operator, they don’t decide or build the rail, speaking of which a lot of lines are beşng constructed including Ankara-Afyon-İzmir, Ankara-Sivas and Bilecik-Bursa and after this there are a dozen new lines planned. Ankara-İzmir will open by 2026 and Ankara-Sivas will probably also open in the next 1.5-2 years after much delay
@kampfpanzerleopard346
Жыл бұрын
@@fusionreactor7179 And what is causing these delays I might ask? If Tayyip builds something, it is becase he wants to enrich a friend of his not serve his people.
@fusionreactor7179
Жыл бұрын
@@kampfpanzerleopard346 I will not bother explaining to a wall
It is usually the economy class tickets that are sold out, as they are dirt cheap. In 2023 the price for the same route is 110 TL which is equivalent to €5.
i always buy my socks at the High Speed Railway Station
@zen2557
Жыл бұрын
wtf
The Amtrak Acela trains here in the USA also have airline-style overhead bins that close
@qjtvaddict
Жыл бұрын
On just a single line
@TexasCat99
Жыл бұрын
They kind of look like Amtrak. Cheapest possible design.
7:15 this memorial monument for the last point that Greek army to reached. After that point Turkish Army started to storm and pushed back invaders till Izmir. That's the real meaning behind it.
I've used this type of train in Spain and even though its comfortable enough we were always running a few minutes late due to the fact there is just that 1 small door for getting on and off the train. I found storage to fine as the overhead racks were large enough for most bags. Still more space than you get on the majority of our trains in the UK. Especially when you end up on a 3x2 seating train where you just cant move down the train with bags.
It's a shame they didn't reuse the old station building in Eskisehir as an entrance or exit, considering it's so close to the new station.
@nikhilPUD01
Жыл бұрын
And it's actually have good design from outside standout from other structures around it
@borancam7426
Жыл бұрын
It is still being renovated
@gokermalikaltuntas6355
Жыл бұрын
I am a local architect. They actually wanted to build a new station. It was gonna function also as a shopping center. The city is divided into two by the railway. The new station was gonna stand over the rails and connect two parts of the city. Waving roofs on top of the perons was part of the plan. For some reason, the rest is never built.
@u9477
Жыл бұрын
@@gokermalikaltuntas6355for some reason = no money/incentive left to build it
@gokermalikaltuntas6355
Жыл бұрын
@@u9477 Maybe, even probably correct. I just don't have any input to confirm this, but any one is welcomed to speculate, for sure.
As an answer to one of your questions: doors for overhead luggage comportments are rare, that's for sure, but I know they exist on Canadian trains. At the very least on the intercity trains operating on the Canadian "corridor". In the case of North America, it's typical of the train industry taking after airline practices. Air travel rules supreme in N.A.
@OntarioTrafficMan
Жыл бұрын
Until very recently, Transport Canada required doors on overhead bins. They have never been required in the United States as far as I'm aware
@AL5520
Жыл бұрын
Also available on the current Acela trains (the new ones will have the regular open overhead luggage racks).
@lzh4950
Жыл бұрын
The GranClass cars on the _Tohoku_ & _Hokuriku Shinkansen_ have doors for overhead luggage compartments too
Great trip and yeah great pronunciation every place you've passed. I think this price considered cheap for Euro and US Dollar user plus currency with higher values than both of them, but for local currency and other countries currency with lower value than Euro and US Dollar, it may be expensive.
@osasunaitor
Жыл бұрын
This guy is a polyglot, wherever he goes he learns to pronounce names surprisingly well I had the same reaction when he visited Spain
@muhammedalikahveci6057
Жыл бұрын
You are kinda right. It is not that much cheap for turkish people but still yht is cheaper than bus. So yeah it is still cheap
@ilberr
Жыл бұрын
it is quite cheap for many of people but i remember, in 2018 i booked YHT ticket for like 6 or 7 TRY(Turkish lira) and in 2018, dollar 4 or 5 TRY. it become a bit expensive for us😊
@_fallenangel4106
Жыл бұрын
Cheaper than many other means of transportation.
There are many reasons why it is so ridiculously cheap but primarily 1-Recent exchange rate collapse where Lira lost a lot of value so the price in Euro went down 2-A lot of things in Turkey are awfully subsidised to the detriment of efficiency 3-A lot of populist political pushback against raising prices according to Inflation so the prices in fact go down when they remain static. 3 Euros is 60liras which absolutely does not even remotely cover the costs of the ticket Probably covers barely a quarter of the actual cost. This is what happens when a country experiences rapid inflation while the incumbemt government has election anxiety and doesn’t raise prices
@emirhancelikbilek3065
Жыл бұрын
well said
I highly enjoyed your previous YHT video, first I'd like to congratulate you on your pronunciation! Second of all, the reason the cafe wasnt operating as usual is because of the Pandemic. I havent been on a YHT but as far as I know they served meals before the pandemic and they havent returned to serving meals since.
Man I love your pronunciation of the turkish words! My parents are from Eskişehir and I visited the city last year after a very long time, of course using the YHT for travelling. It's such a bizarre feeling seeing all the familiar places in your video :D from the old Eskişehir train station to the new train station and the platforms. Hope you had a great time in Eskişehir!
just love following your trips and vlogs keep them up mate.
unfortunately it is not cheap for Turkish people who takes average wage. it is too hard to travel in Turkiye right now if you don't have a very well paid job.
@yagi3925
Жыл бұрын
It's called "Turkey" in English. "Türkiye" is a Turkish word, not an English one.
@strikein8698
Жыл бұрын
@Yagi u understood what they meant tho? So what the problem xd?
@lws7394
Жыл бұрын
@@yagi3925 FYI : the government of Turkey recently announced that the preferred name is to be 'Republic of Türkiye' and 'Made in Türkiye' . In a similar way as that Peking now is Beijing and Bombay Mumbay ...
@eeceleste
Жыл бұрын
@@yagi3925 Turkish government changed their international identity just so you know.
@yagi3925
Жыл бұрын
@@eeceleste I know full well but 1. "International" doesn't automatically or exclusively mean "English", 2. As I pointed out, Turkish speakers (or speakers of any other language) have no authority to change anything in a foreign language. It's none of your business, so your gvt's decision is null and void. 3. As a consequence, your country is still called "Turkey" in English, whether you or AKP like it or not.
The baggage situation reminded me of a trip I took on Thalys back in 2010, returning from London to Warsaw because my flight to Trinidad had been cancalled due to the Icelandic volcano eruption.... I was on the Brusels to Aachen leg and the train was packed, even the steps at each door piled with baggage (I guess a lot of people were is the same position as me, desperately trying get home ). I was actually standing with one leg jammed between suitcases on the lowest step, the other leg a step higher, and leant against the door by the press of the crowd. We were doing the best part of 150kph, and I remember thinking that if we crashed I was without doubt going to die - the only time in my life I've ever been frightened travelling (whether by train, plane or anything else).
@SuperalbsTravels
Жыл бұрын
Yikes, sounds unpleasant... Thalys video coming soon!
@lzh4950
Жыл бұрын
On the other hand HK enforces baggage size limits more strictly for HSR trains leaving the city, & expects you to arrange for your own courier service for oversized luggage
@ggoddkkiller1342
Жыл бұрын
If high speed trains derail survival chance is slim anyway..
@athrunzala6770
Жыл бұрын
@@ggoddkkiller1342 it depends on which train .. the TGV has already derailed at 270 km / h and there were no deaths but 22 injured
great informative video!
As a routine commuter from Ankara to Eskişehir this video was pretty entertaining to watch. Also watched your other videos. Great job on capturing the high speed railways of Turkey! The luggage situation is a big annoyance but overall service is good for the price.
CAF units are not the only kind. The first CAF trains entered service in 2009. Siemens Velaro D model is in use since 2014. These two train sets are actively work on existing train tracks.
3:36 Please do a review on AVE in Basico class on S102 and also do a review on the RENFE S121 like the one on screen. I love your videos and I'm subscribed to your channel.
4:42 considering the line is not that old, it doesn't take a very direct route to Ankara. If you look at recent Shinkansen lines they take much more direct routes through the mountains (with large amounts of the line in tunnels).
Atleast you guys *have* high speed trains
@SuperalbsTravels
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@judefernandez827
Ай бұрын
Do u live in the Amazon 😂
@fork-centraldaseleicoes3729
29 күн бұрын
@@judefernandez827 No, but you're gettin' close
Bro i am from eskişehir turket i love the video thanks for coming my hometown
The station with pay toilets and lots of shops in the common spaces reminded me of the old bus station on my city
The ✨Deutsche Bahn✨ would be so Jealous when seeing this value to money
@Patrick-on2ty
Жыл бұрын
schau mal nach England😉
@heniderking
Жыл бұрын
9,65€ super sparpreis young 🫡
@paul_ko
Жыл бұрын
Well you can get from Munich to Hamburg (over 800km/500mi) for as little as €12.90 if you're under 27, which is a great price considering the better comfort/condition of the trains and the fact that the average income in Germany is much higher than in Turkey
@user-vi1lv2xi9i
Жыл бұрын
@@paul_ko if you book like 20 years in advance, yeah
@UnnormaI
Жыл бұрын
Well, the ICEs already can get crammed and introducing something like the 9€ Ticket to hsr would only make things worse.
The thing with the bags being everywhere isn’t a surprise. Turks aren’t exactly known for our attention to detail or efficient use of space.
That is very excellent value I must admit.
I've had the exact same messy baggage and even worse toilet situation in 2nd class on the Thalys, between Amsterdam-Schiphol and Paris.
I would suggest you to use a polarizing filter to manage reflections when shooting from windows. There are also clip-on versions for smartphones.
Awesome video
Will you be traveling on the new HSL thats about to open between Ankara and Sivas? I would love to see a video about that.
I’m from Turkey and I learned a ton from your video 😄❤️
@emrekalayci4425
Жыл бұрын
Yanlış öğrendin kardeşim. Baya yerin dibine sokmuş. O hızlı trene kaç kere bindim ve gayet keyifli. Ki bunları muhalif bir insan olarak yazıyorum. Yolun çoğunda 250 ile gidiyor ve o yolu 1,5 saatte alıyorsun. Avrupada da hızlı trene bindim, hem pahalı hem de tren istasyonlarının etrafı garip tiplerle dolu. Romada da, Pariste de, Marsilyada da durum bu. Tren kalitesinde de hiç bir fark yok. Restoranı ise gayet güzel normalde ama muhtemelen pandemiden dolayı öyle.. Radyosunu da 100 kere dinledim ve bozuk falan değildi. Bagaj desen 1 kere görmedim. Muhtemelen okulların kapanma sezonuna denk geldi yada tam trenden inişleri çekiyor.. Haksız bir değerlendirme bence. O hattaki tek sorun sinyalsiz açılmasıydı. Zaten ondan dolayı kaza oldu. Bunu belirtse sonuna kadar haklı, fakat trenler ve yolculuk kalitesi iyi bence.
I studied in Eskişehir and my then gf now fiancee was in Ankara, so i dont know how many times i took the train between 2017-2020. Even as a broke student it was super affordable for me. I was taking the first train at 6am and taking back the turning train at 19:30am. Missed the good old days
@SuperalbsTravels
9 ай бұрын
Nice, and congratulations! :)
I can buy a subway ticket with €3. This is actually quite insane ngl.
@aightg
Жыл бұрын
for subway its 15 cents per ride in Izmir,Turkey and everything(ferry, busses, tram, other train lines) becomes free for 90 minutes
White static noise instead of lovely Turkish music = Selling Point
9:01 Could be because there's no in-house radio and you weren't close to any radio stations.
Hey @Superalbs Travels do you follow recommendations ? I would like to see a video on the AKN near Hamburg it is a regional commuter Company based in Kaltenkirchen it has 3 routes and is my local Railway company and IF you have the choice try to catch one of they're newer Lint 54 trains because the older VTA trains are quite loud given you sit in the powered wagon
Nice video. May I ask you what is the map you are using in the videos?
At today's rate, an economy class ticket about $5.2 = 110 ₺
A member of staff on board could sort most of the baggage issue pretty quickly. How much of that 15 minute delay was due to dwell times for this. For all it’s faults least it managed some USB sockets which many in Europe don’t provide.
Its actually a bit annoying that i live in Turkey and you probably traveled around in Turkey more than me.
Ideally you should wait until everyone has dismounted before boarding a train
@SuperalbsTravels
Жыл бұрын
If people stop getting off, then how is anyone possibly meant to know that there's more to come? 🙄
For 3 euros I would have sat on my luggage in the corridor. We need more high speed service. If it's cheap it's even better. That the experience is like an old local train is frankly OK. 😀
@erkinyldrm6579
Жыл бұрын
Saying that it is 3€ kinda misrepresents the situation. Think it like 2 minimum wage hours at the time of filming. Lira lost a lot of value in recent years. But YHT is still kinda cheap
The first thing that struck me as odd is how low the train station's platform was, so much so that the train car's exit needed so many steps down. Japanese shinkansen cabin floors are level with the high station platforms, and boarding/getting off is fast.
@daniellewis1789
Жыл бұрын
There's a conflict between high level platforms for passenger service, and freight clearance. This might come up on tracks with dual use, with MOW equipment clearance, or if the specs for HSR just copy what's used for conventional passenger service. It also makes bilevel trains board from the low level rather than the middle level (for example the North American Bombardier bi-level cars use low level boarding, CalTrans new EMUs have doors for both mid and low level boarding).
@bjoernaltmann
Жыл бұрын
Japan is slightly more advanced
@omerfaruk3332
Жыл бұрын
@@bjoernaltmannJust slightly?
@judefernandez827
Ай бұрын
Slightly 😂 light years ahead buddy
If you had preferred the 8-car Siemens Velaro D model instead of CAF trains, it offered a more modern and comfortable use. I take care to choose this train when traveling from istanbul to ankara in the same line and way
@SeeLasSee
Жыл бұрын
How do you know which model train is being used?
@furkanyldz8460
Жыл бұрын
@@SeeLasSee There are only two different model train sets in Turkey's high-speed train inventory. The first CAF trains entered service in 2009. Siemens Velaro D model is in use since 2014. These two train sets are actively on existing train tracks. And I traveled with both train models numbers of times
@ahmetakman5261
Жыл бұрын
@@furkanyldz8460 Indeed, there is a huge difference between those two.
I believe this a older version they use a new and a different model in Konya-Ankara(overall radio, chairs, charge stations, laguage storage are a bit different and some other things also way better compared to this model/variant)
I'm always paranoid about my stuff when traveling and the fact that the luggage rack can be closed really doesn't help here.
"water and socks" Yes, exactly what I want on the way to catching a train.
Bruh, its literally cheaper than a short hop to Preston on my local line (sub 10 miles) and this is equivalent to going from Preston to Birmingham, which itself is at least 20x more expensive IF you're lucky enough to be eligible for a railcard
In many countries (including Turkey) operators of public Wi-Fi facilities are legally required to note down the identity of the person corresponding to every connecting device for security reasons. That could be the reason why they would insist taking your ticket number as it was linked to your ID.
After eskişehir, this train goes to istanbul which I travel estimately every 3 months and it cost 10 USD Ankara to İstanbul for students in economy class.
0:07 Please release the video on the AVE S103 Velaro, because I'm going to travel with it on 21st August. I am subscribed to your channel and I like your lovely videos
@SuperalbsTravels
10 ай бұрын
I have filmed one, but not sure when I will edit it. Have a great trip! :)
@mariadelmarjimenezarroyo2656
10 ай бұрын
@@SuperalbsTravels Ah thanks. Likewise
I still remember them being brand new, clean and with good beer at bars. How low we have fallen
What is the app you use to measure speed of train ?
Now that does sound cheap in Turkey. Very strange looking station that has been built underground. Still those high speed trains are very nice.
Cafe area is changed now there are much better seats and tables and they have various sandwiches, snacks, cold and hot drinks even starbucks coffee :)
Cafeteria only serves packed food after the pandemic it was even fully shot down during the pandemic. It used to serve hot meals and snacks. They will probably return to that sooner or later.
Luggage, specially big ones, are an usual problem when travelling by rail.
The newer version should fix the little rattlings and other observable uncomfortable placements.
For €3, that's an incredible deal, actually.
while you were on the train the agreement of the food company was over but then another agreement is done so now there is food at food car
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A cabin type luggage easily fits on the top closets. People are just too lazy about using them. About bad conditions, trains were purchased second hand from Spanish high speed train fleet.
Bidet and toilet paper are used together. 😀 First toilet paper, then water via bidet, then toilet paper again. 😉
@mehmetbursa5656
Жыл бұрын
Zamanla öğrenecekler. Elbet bir gün 😅
Very minor correction: Polatlı is not a city, it is a district of Ankara
That price is crazy. I pay more for my 12 km daily commute
Love the Turkish pronunciation (no pun intended).
I enjoyed the great coffee smell in turkish High Speed Stations...
The ice frequently costs 10 € for trips of a few hours
@thatsimon4275
Жыл бұрын
How would one find these cheap tickets?
@Volodimar
Жыл бұрын
@@thatsimon4275 by sacrificing their firstborn to Satan
@natewp
Жыл бұрын
@@thatsimon4275 If you're younger than 27, have a railcard, and buy in advance.
@heniderking
Жыл бұрын
@ThatSimon when traveling from one central station to another and buying the ticket 2-3 weeks prior
@aynamehd7455
Жыл бұрын
@@thatsimon4275 12 euros if u are under 27 without the bahncard for supersparpreis and sparpreis that includes a city ticket is like 15 euros less than 180 days prior ideally 1 month in advance to two months in advance will be chapest
The weather looks so chilly!
@SuperalbsTravels
Жыл бұрын
For Turkey, I was surprised, but it was winter! 😅
@plonss
Жыл бұрын
@@SuperalbsTravels Weirdly Turkey has in W-Europe still an image of being a warm country. In winter large parts of the country are freezing !
When you come to Turkey, you should take the eastern express.
One of the High Speed Trains in Turkey (Sivas-Ankara Line) was derailed today due to a landslide. There is a Turkish proverb about this situation: "The stew of cheap meat is not edible."
8:15 Well, you paid the ride, so you can do everything you want, even if it disturbs to your fellow passengers. I always do it when travelling.
In case of an emergency evacuation one would need to leave the luggages behind so it wouldn’t be an issue
Not working wifi networks are the worst :P Seems like once set up no one ever checks if they work.
Having only one door per carriage on a train serving high-demand routes might just be one of the dumbest decisions ever made. What a shitshow that was lmao
@lzh4950
Жыл бұрын
Don't TGV & Thalys also have only 1 door per car too? The mini _Shinkansen_ rolling stock in Japan as well
@osasunaitor
Жыл бұрын
This is a Spanish train built by CAF, we have them in Spain too (Series 120 and 121 of Renfe). I overall like them pretty much, but I agree that the single door thing is a clear downside
As a swiss Iam pretty anouyed that you go into the train before all people left the train. As a train enthusiast... XD
@SuperalbsTravels
Жыл бұрын
I had no idea more were coming, as nobody got off for a while! 😂
@aightg
Жыл бұрын
I was annoyed as a Turk too :)
@SuperalbsTravels
Жыл бұрын
@@aightg Presumably you can magically predict when people are coming then? Cool.
In order to take the train for 3 Euros in Turkey, Turkish citizens have to buy a car with a sale price of 50 000 Euros in Europe for 100 000 Euros in Turkey. They even have to buy some cars 400% more expensive. This is what it means. 3 Euro is a symbolic price. It does not subtract the costs. You can tell by the neglect of the toilet faucet on the train.
Good value for money.
Can anyone tell us how to book tickets on this train ? Thanks
@SuperalbsTravels
Жыл бұрын
You usually need to book far ahead. See this link: ebilet.tcddtasimacilik.gov.tr/view/eybis/tnmGenel/tcddWebContent.jsf English is available.
what about waiting outside until they get out ??
@SuperalbsTravels
Жыл бұрын
I can't predict if there are still people coming. That's not possible. 🙄
What🤯 3€! Thats more than taking the train from Åstorp to Malmö with a credit card 💀
@ardaakdag7016
Жыл бұрын
if those 3 euros are equal to 61,51 tl its expensive for the turkish people considering its a 2-3 hour ride with a car
@gulagkid799
Жыл бұрын
@@ardaakdag7016 fuel prices still would be more expensive for a 2-3hour journey
@the_vehicle_spotter
Жыл бұрын
@@ardaakdag7016 yeah obviously👍 but it’s still kinda insane for me. And the service I’m talking about is a regional 30 minute ride with a top speed of 140km/h
Thanks for your vid and the effort you have taken in also trying to pronounce the Turkish words correctly instead of just saying, what comes to your mind - as many other youtubers seem to do, when they encounter foreign words. As to the video itself. It is a fare which does not even get you a tram ticket in Berlin or Paris, one has to keep that in mind, but also that this figure is distorted by the inflation in Turkey. For Turkish citizens, this might be a lot more expensive. However, being cheap or not: I have never seen a HS-train so mucky and filthy as on this video. Jeez...everything was covered in grime and also lose or not fitting anymore. Türkiye (is that now the spelling in English?) is a highly developed country and sometimes also way backward as seen when travelling. Even on planes, some people stand up even BEFORE landing or immediately after. Then the plane gets faster to the stand!
@SuperalbsTravels
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I have to agree regarding people who stand up ages before they need to. It really doesn't help anyone, especially on planes. 🤣
@aaltanacar
Жыл бұрын
The Turkish boarding-disembarking a train/plane is such a shitty experience. We as a nation&people do everything wrong when it comes to this. If you’re flying to Germany from Turkey, overhead spaces are almost always get full rather quickly, and even before boarding you will see airline workers asking passengers “can we put your baggage to the luggage compartment, under the plane” because they know the cabin will be full. People almost always stand up when the plane is still moving after landing. And on trains, there’s just not enough space for big luggages. Queueing? The hell with that. We’ll jump to be the first to get in to the train. Not occupying the aisle when boarding a plane? Who cares about the others.
Unless the travel time is more than 5 hours. Comfortable high capacity seats make more sense. No need for luxury coaches. Something lumo trains do in UK
£3 for a high-speed train service to Ankara? Normally, this is typical or slightly more expensive for the average English commuter (or Australian, since I often use public transport to get around). But this? Incredible. However, low-cost HSR exists in France (Ouigo) and Spain (Avlo). *SIDENOTE:* Baggage gymnastics is the most dangerous sport in the world. Ha ha ha. 😅
@furkanyldz8460
Жыл бұрын
The reason why it is cheap is purely inflation, economic reasons and exchange rate. From Eskişehir to Ankara it will be 3£, from Istanbul to Ankara it will be about approximately 10£, shorter distances are cheaper. Equals 1 British Pound - 23.30 Turkish Lira
@AL5520
Жыл бұрын
SNCF OuiGo also operates in Spain (under OuiGo España) and Avlo, which is the low cost brand of Renfe. The lowest ticket is 7€ for Avlo and 9€ for OuiGo, Iryo, the 3rd operator, is not low cost but still inexpensive with tickets starting at 18€, and the AVE that starts 17€ (but most at around 30€ and up).
@Lodai974
Жыл бұрын
One of the differences with Ouigo (France) is that all luggage is a supplement to pay, so fewer problems with suitcases except during major departures....
@publicname
Жыл бұрын
@@furkanyldz8460 it's still cheap considering that they are giving this service to a price of a bottle ale tho. YHT is just the best among other transportation options in Turkey, kudos to TCDD.
@furkanyldz8460
Жыл бұрын
@@publicname yes it is cheap but the increasing high cost of prices in turkey affects the purchasing power of the citizens living in turkey, when the train ticket increases, the turks get more expensive, but it becomes cheaper for the tourists. prices don't stay fixed, too volatile
Generally when WiFi services like this are locked down and require you to identify yourself in some way to connect, my assumption is that it's not necessarily a matter of keeping people from mooching off the connection, but rather about reducing liability for illegal accesses such as piracy. If such activity were traced back to the train WiFi, the organization can put a name with the logs, whereas otherwise they could perhaps be blamed for not doing their due diligence.
@segwhkamaza6447
7 ай бұрын
Yep with how crowded the network you can do pretty much anything its just a firewall
Lol, our Serbian 200km/h trains between Novi Sad and Belgrade cost around 3 euros. They use Standler KISS trains.
@SuperalbsTravels
Жыл бұрын
Video on that is coming VERY soon, stay tuned. 👀
@acaru4925
Жыл бұрын
They are real good😊
It is alot cheap then traveling by train from London to Holyhead. Why does that route cost so much?
@strikein8698
Жыл бұрын
Probably cus London is a tourist capital so they gonna raise prices to make more profit off of tourists
@AtoZbyLocalBus
Жыл бұрын
@@strikein8698 The price going to Holyhead from London is dearer, then the price going to London from Holyhead.
@qjtvaddict
Жыл бұрын
Privatization fam
12:47 It's hard to believe, but this situation is always happening. They never understand...
At least if there is no devastating earthquake you won't die the most terrible coffin shake crash at high speed ever.
Polatli’s original station in downtown is functionally useless, with trains mostly to Ankara, adding onto a much more frequent bus service. Only two night trains to Izmir and Istanbul being the grey ducks. Already faster and more frequent services to Istanbul are provided through the YHT depot. The only train of any use there is the Izmir blue train. However, in 2027, even that train will be useless with the Ankara-Izmir YHT line. It’s kinda like a game of pick your poison for the people in Polatli.
Compared to the IC4 you recently reviewed this is incredible, especially for the price.
Are the toilets on the train “Paid Toilets”, since the ticket price is SO cheap?
@SuperalbsTravels
Жыл бұрын
Haha thankfully not!