The Problem With Rhythm Guitar

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  • @SugarpillProd
    @SugarpillProd22 күн бұрын

    Learn more about me, my productions and all the tools you’ll ever need to craft your own world-class punk & emo songs: www.sugarpillproductions.com/

  • @aoifeamari
    @aoifeamari21 күн бұрын

    I don't really play punk, but your tips are spot on for most any genre. Thank you.

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    21 күн бұрын

    Thanks, I appreciate that!

  • @carter358
    @carter35818 күн бұрын

    The problem with rhythm guitar Is that people just learn the typical root 5th Power cord form and think the rhythm guitarist just along doing pluncks along doing those. So they think they can call themselves a rhythm guitarist and they come to audition for your band and you have to tell them "You can't play! You still need to learn to play the instrument!"

  • @eighteen-naked-cowboys
    @eighteen-naked-cowboys21 күн бұрын

    I love when a track drops to just bass and drums for the guitar solo it helps break up the song a bit and sounds fresh to the ears

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    21 күн бұрын

    For sure! They can start to sound like white noise after awhile, haha.

  • @CsRj2854

    @CsRj2854

    21 күн бұрын

    I prefer a rhythm guitar track playing during the guitar solo

  • @doodlebob3758

    @doodlebob3758

    21 күн бұрын

    ​@@CsRj2854it makes the rythym track come to life as much as it supports the solo.

  • @User-jk8wq

    @User-jk8wq

    19 күн бұрын

    Ah yes, the old Pantera trick!

  • @danielnizam1642

    @danielnizam1642

    17 күн бұрын

    Listen to tornado of soul solo. That solo was majestic right, but not without dave mustaine rhythm playing.

  • @salandit7461
    @salandit746121 күн бұрын

    This is why so many three piece bands sound so good, like Nirvana, The Police, Rush, etc. Or even some four piece bands where the singer is only doing vocals and not any instrument maybe like the red hot chili peppers

  • @luisgil1420
    @luisgil142021 күн бұрын

    That riff at the end with the bassliterally sounds like something me and my friends made a while ago, hope we never run out of riffs in our life time.

  • @twobarsfourstars
    @twobarsfourstars20 күн бұрын

    Great video, love this “longform” model for you and really appreciate all this knowledge you keep dropping 🤘🏼 thank you!!

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    20 күн бұрын

    Thanks, I'm happy to hear you're enjoying things so far!

  • @dorianford6227
    @dorianford622721 күн бұрын

    Strummed chords can work depending on how they’re played. When I play chords in my band our bass player plays higher on the neck and more melodically. by chords I do not mean power chords more so triads We try to avoid that though because it does take up a lot of frequency space

  • @rileycronin-schneider8101
    @rileycronin-schneider810121 күн бұрын

    He speaks! Cool video. I agree man. That’s why I love it when bands record as if they are a 3 piece (or 4piece) and resist the urge to add a bunch of rhythm guitar tracks.

  • @handler803
    @handler80321 күн бұрын

    Was thinking this as well. Sometimes its better to have a one-guitar lineup so the bass and drums can shine through.

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    21 күн бұрын

    I think two is great, but it's nice when things are arranged in a way for the focal points to really be highlighted.

  • @edbestedits361
    @edbestedits36115 күн бұрын

    Shake with me is such a banger! Love that you referenced that huge chorus!

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    15 күн бұрын

    Definitely a favourite of mine from the new record!

  • @myboxissharp
    @myboxissharp18 күн бұрын

    the way i like to write pop punk is to use the bass as the lead, "informing" the melody. then the lead guitar is more of "cool stuff on top"

  • @goodoladam
    @goodoladam21 күн бұрын

    Exact reason I'm starting a punk trio right now. The one riff, one chord style of dual guitar playing has been done an awful lot. It's great and there alot of awesome bands who do that, but I've always found it interesting when a band sounds awesome and full with only one guitar player.

  • @hclyrics
    @hclyrics3 күн бұрын

    Love this! One band I love though that basically has the rhythm guitar playing power chords constantly underneath the lead guitar is Iron Chic. Other than them, I can't think of many other bands that pull it off.

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    3 күн бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @Afish8me2china
    @Afish8me2china21 күн бұрын

    A very simple way to mix guitar is to have more of a noise wall with rhythm guitar or just have breaks for them

  • @aaronfriesen7557
    @aaronfriesen755721 күн бұрын

    Great thoughts!

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    21 күн бұрын

    Much appreciated! 🙏

  • @okaight7248
    @okaight724821 күн бұрын

    Good tips. The automatic thing people always do is just fill up the space. It’s tiring and boring. There needs to be more relaxed areas to contrast the harder areas to be effective.

  • @Saucy2234-hg8tt
    @Saucy2234-hg8tt4 күн бұрын

    can these tricks apply to live performance or are they only available in production. I always have been told by my bandmates that I need to play chords all the time cuz everything will sound empty.

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    4 күн бұрын

    I'd say in a live setting it would probably be a bit different, though it would depend on the size of the venue, the PA system, and everything else too. I guess with live performances dynamics are less of a concern. Though I've definitely been to shows where there's almost too much going on onstage, so dropping out here and there could definitely enhance certain sections. Try experimenting during a band practise and I'm sure you'll find out what works best!

  • @Saucy2234-hg8tt

    @Saucy2234-hg8tt

    4 күн бұрын

    @@SugarpillProd okie thanksssss

  • @sheenbeans
    @sheenbeans13 күн бұрын

    Ocean Avenue riff at the end 😩

  • @eternalforce116
    @eternalforce11621 күн бұрын

    What guitar is in the thumbnail? I love it 😅

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    21 күн бұрын

    Tim's I would assume, haha. I think they're made by Gretsch.

  • @jessrocha6178
    @jessrocha617821 күн бұрын

    How do I spice things up If I only have a bass guitar, all my songs are bass and drums

  • @georgetwine2261

    @georgetwine2261

    21 күн бұрын

    you could play power chords on your bass and pitch it up an octave, won't sound identical but will be unique and probably pretty cool

  • @jessrocha6178

    @jessrocha6178

    21 күн бұрын

    @@georgetwine2261 Imma try, thank you!!

  • @ethertheabyss8092

    @ethertheabyss8092

    21 күн бұрын

    I love fuzz on bass

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    21 күн бұрын

    I mean it's probably going to sound a little odd if it's only bass and drums, but if that's all you have, try treating other layers more like guitars. So re-amp them more like you would with actual guitar tracks, experiment with more chord-based tracks, try EQing out some of the lows too so they don't "sound" like bass tracks anymore. Pitch shifting could be cool too. Maybe have a look into how Royal Blood do things, as they're quite well known for only using bass and drums - and making things sound like there's more going on, through production tricks.

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    21 күн бұрын

    I remember writing a bass and drums only section on a clients song, where I used both a MIDI bass and real bass, plus one fuzz track, which gives you a bit more depth than just a single bass track. Maybe try something like that, if you like that sort of sound kzread.info/dash/bejne/mHhrlcNmeMe3Y5M.htmlsi=1tEjfp5QTV1fS2dv&t=122

  • @pmartinez358
    @pmartinez35818 күн бұрын

    The riff underneath the spoken word a song from somewhere?

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    18 күн бұрын

    Just something I wrote for a previous video, so I use it like a little "score" for these newer ones.

  • @jeffoenami3023
    @jeffoenami302315 күн бұрын

    Can you give tips on melodic hardcore?

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    15 күн бұрын

    Sure! Anything specific you're struggling with?

  • @michaellacunza6567
    @michaellacunza65677 күн бұрын

    ❤❤❤

  • @BellsCuriosityShop
    @BellsCuriosityShop20 күн бұрын

    Ever use flats on bass?

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    20 күн бұрын

    I don't believe so. But I like the sound of them in general!

  • @allstarlord9110
    @allstarlord911020 күн бұрын

    I’m the rhythm guitarist in my band so I feel personally attacked 😂

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    20 күн бұрын

    I thought I made it pretty clear that it works on a case by case basis, but maybe I didn't 😂

  • @allstarlord9110

    @allstarlord9110

    20 күн бұрын

    @@SugarpillProd Yeah I know mate just joking I fully agree with you😆

  • @jabroable
    @jabroable18 күн бұрын

    Is this a voice reveal? 👀

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    18 күн бұрын

    Probably not as the last like 5 videos have all had my voice in them 😂

  • @eliasmg9144
    @eliasmg914419 күн бұрын

    I liked b more, ngl

  • @iago9711
    @iago971121 күн бұрын

    You should do a post mortem on why the new strung out album is a mixing catastrophe. It physically hurts my ears to listen to and almost everyone on reddit and elsewhere is in agreement the mix is really trash

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    21 күн бұрын

    It does sound a bit rough admittedly 🤣 But I don't like to blame the mixers or anything, as you never know what happens between the initial mix and final revision process. At the end of the day, the sound of a record is down to the artists and/or labels decision, so I guess they wanted it to sound that way, for one reason or another.

  • @elisecliftonklitz
    @elisecliftonklitz21 күн бұрын

    I disagree. Gotta have a good rhythm guitar sound, Because so many drummers do not have a clue what to play

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    21 күн бұрын

    I'm saying in specific cases, it can sound better to cut out the rhythm guitar, to make something else shine through. I'm not saying to never have rhythm guitar, that would just be an odd thing to suggest.

  • @elisecliftonklitz

    @elisecliftonklitz

    21 күн бұрын

    @@SugarpillProd ok. I've got drummer blues at the moment. Had a session and the lead guitar and drummer were way the off rhythm!

  • @Dil_Moran

    @Dil_Moran

    21 күн бұрын

    @@elisecliftonklitz OK?

  • @elisecliftonklitz

    @elisecliftonklitz

    21 күн бұрын

    @@Dil_Moran trolls will troll literally anything and anyone's opinion. You are smart ass

  • @Dil_Moran

    @Dil_Moran

    18 күн бұрын

    @@elisecliftonklitz I'm sorry mumma, I never meant to hurt you. I never meant to make you cry

  • @alwaysabiggafish3305
    @alwaysabiggafish330518 күн бұрын

    that slotface song is terrible

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    18 күн бұрын

    Hard disagree haha.

  • @rickfinsta2951
    @rickfinsta295120 күн бұрын

    Sorry, kid, but A sounds much better. It comes off as full, energetic, and engaging. B sounds like you need to either cheat with a doubling, delay, and hard pan, or get the guitarist back in the studio to track that over and over until it is no longer sounding thin and dead.

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    20 күн бұрын

    I never said one sounded better over the other, it's all subjective.

  • @IKilledTheDodo
    @IKilledTheDodo17 күн бұрын

    You make a good point, especially considering adding dynamics to your track to make it more interesting, but it falls a bit flat with the A/B comparison. To me A sounds way better on it’s own, but as part of a song I imagine the break from the rythm guitar would make for an interesting mixup.

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    17 күн бұрын

    It's hard to give a fair comparison because a lot of what will sound "better" in A is just down to the perceived loudness compared to B. Obviously B is going to sound a lot more "empty", especially as a direct comparison. But if you think of it in terms of the focal points during that section - so the main riff I'm playing would really be the highlight - it's totally obscured in A, whereas B it stands out. And much like you said, if you heard that in context with the full song, it would make a lot more sense from an arrangement perspective too. Part of that is my fault though, as I don't think I explained things as best I could, haha.

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