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I am so glad these two got together and went back-and-forth with their expertise. So much fun.
@xzxscorchedxzx7015
8 ай бұрын
I was just about to say the same and I had only seen the short clip in the thumbnail😂
Interestingly, Marvel's Loki was created in the 1940s, decades before Thor and most other known heroes. He first appeared in an issue of the "Venus" series as an episodic villain of the titular heroine.
I think aside from Iron Man and Robert Downey Jr., one of the scenes that showed that this MCU thing had legs was Tom Hiddleston acting against Anthony Hopkins and showing us there was some real substance here.
THIS is the crossover we needed, I’m loving you two together. Would love more joint videos/crossover events with yall
You honestly don't know how fucking long I've been waiting for this crossover. I love both of you guys and all your channels
tom hiddleston is such an underrated actor. hes one of the finest. knows how to play the straightman and get laughs and knows when to turn it off and still be captivating! the wholoe cast is incredible and full of no over actors. they know timing. thats also why loki is a successful franchise.. mcu wise..
I absolutely love Tom Hiddleston as Loki. He's my favorite MCU character. He brings so much to Loki💚🖤💚
*Fun fact:* In the Amalgam Universe, Loki and Desaad appear mixed as a single being known as L'ok D'saad
@bashengatheblackmanta7003
8 ай бұрын
If they were to create a new amalgam universe now, desaad would be merge with ebony maw
Crazy crossover! Definitely wasn’t expecting this! Love this!
Voss and Benny together?! Dreams do come true 😂
I'd actually really enjoy a side series of these guys discussing the changes of characters from panel to screen.
I thought they casted her and Aaron Taylor Jonson because of the 2014 Godzilla movie where they played a married couple
@PaulSmith-nb6md
8 ай бұрын
That is why
The crossover I never thought I’d see
New Rockstars + Comicstorian = Rockstorian ⚔️🛡️
Okay this is my favorite crossover this year love both of you guys soo much ❤
Wow! 2 of my 3 most watched comics/MCU channels/ KZreadrs In the one video! This is the cross over we needed but don’t deserve
@q-kumbah7435
8 ай бұрын
whats the 3rd??
@bashengatheblackmanta7003
8 ай бұрын
@@q-kumbah7435l'm sure it's screencrush
@brockreibel672
8 ай бұрын
Rob from comics explained, I go to them for different reasons
It's always great to see some of your favorite youtubers collaborate. This was a fun watch
New subscriber here, came over from New Rockstars! I love this discussion about Loki. My Dad and I went to see the first Avengers movie together. He grew up reading Fantastic Four, Captain America and Thor but hadn’t kept up with comics and hadn’t seen any other Marvel movie. I hadn’t read any comic books but had seen every Marvel movie leading up to it. After the movie, my Dad kept saying how he couldn’t get over Loki being a “bad guy”, because he couldn’t take him seriously - because Loki was never taken seriously in the comics! But for me, I had no preconceived notions of who Loki “was” in the comics, before the Thor movies or the first Avengers movie, so I just accepted Tom Hiddleston’s version of the character. I’ve had a much more enjoyable ride with the character as a result.
New rockstars and comicstorian the ultimate team up… I’m amped
Thanks for making this series even more insightful with such an amazing colab. I truly appreciate this.
Calling Loki an iago type character is so fitting this is why he works so well because he is constantly being a good brother while simultaneously stabbing thor with a knife to get what he wants
If I wasn't being evicted and had the money I'd buy 2 bottles😂
Doctor Doom needs to be able to be able to bring that able of Gravitas to everything he does, to have a full personality reaction to everything he does. Tom's Loki in the movies is like how Doom is in the Comics, they are iconic because everyone understands them and they are 3d at this point.
@antona.1327
8 ай бұрын
First, they're nothing alike in the comics. Hiddleston's Loki was first a spoiled whiny brat who then became a loser who gets humiliated by everyone and has sudden change of heart for good despite murdering children and women in the first Avengers movies. Doctor Doom is none of those things - maybe except for being a brat, back when he was still in university with Reed and before he became a supervillain. Second, how about making Loki act like, you know, Loki? And it's funny how you mention these two, considering during the latter part of JMS's run on Thor both of them teamed up and did the most horrific stuff you can imagine supervillains do. They were both despicable and evil in that story.
the crossover i knew i needed but kept thinking why hasn’t it happened and this is a perfect way to collab, love it, need more parallels from comics and the mcu the expertise from both sides was amazing in this video !!
OH YEAH!!! Two of my favorite channels finally colab!! Next colab should be with Variant Comics!!!!
Yooo this is the mashup /cameo / interview I didn’t know I needed, but damn you two are great together
This is a crossover that I never expected this like if a DC character would appear in a big Marvel character comic issue
I love the series, this is an awesome collaboration! Erik is right about you being the comic expert!
Definitely do more of these !!
This is such a great Collab I love Erik and Benny
Loved watching these two collaborate!
this is one of my favorite collabs, i’ve been subbed to you both, since I was in highschool
The crossover potentials are endless now!!! Casually Comics!! Screencrush!!
Ngl I clicked on this video because of the thumbnail
Please make alot more full stories I listen to them at work and love what you do thanks
The collab we all wanted and needed. Great stuff 🔥
Really loved seeing Voss here
Literally my favorite 2 KZreadrs
The duo i didn't know i needed
Love the production quality on this one benny
This was actually an incredibly insightful video
i really liked this team-up thanks guys
i love the collab! :) Can you make a "The Problem with Black Bolt" with Rob/ComicsExplained as guest, I'm sure he has things to say about Black Bolt xD
A collab with Voss? Never in my life have I wanted something so much, and never known till I had received it.
Benny with the flyest forces I've seen in a while. Sheeeeesh ol son,
This was so great! 👍🏾
The collab I never knew I’d get
Excellent video !!!! I love Benny and i love Eric voss !!! Great people !!!
Best crossover since endgame
Imma need more shows with y’all two… finally subed
No way!!! Comicstoriean and Eric Voss from New Rockstars together on a video!!!
Now thats some crossover
Great episode guys!!!!
These calabs are amazing cause I love both of these Channels 😜🤘
Really cool crossover! I’d love to see you guys in more videos together
Love the new format ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Good luck on these man! Hoping these get funded and out there. 🎉
Love the crossover!! It’s our own CPU - Comic Podcast Universe or CPA- Comic Podcast Alliance
What a great collab
THIS WAS SO GOOD!!
This is like Superman and Batman talking about comics 😀
Ha, a fun crossover/collaboration - I've been watching both of these channels for years now, though had fallen off a bit on both (Comicstorian ironically as I read more comics, can't fully explain that one, New Rockstars just because I can't catch many movies in theatres, and they can get really spoiler-y with video titles/thumbnails sometimes), even if I'm still a fan. Nice to see Benny go head-to-head with Erik Voss, especially as I have wondered about this very topic myself, would've watched an hour or more of this. Quick tangent since it was brought up: I think one of the problems with Chris Hemsworth's Thor has been...actually, it might be a version of the issue Benny raises for comic Loki: the MCU hasn't really known what it wants Thor to be like, so we seem to get different takes in every film, somewhat similar to the other versions (especially as Hemsworth can keep a level of continuity), but a bit disjointed. In addition, they literally have no idea what they really *want to do with* Thor - what things are *really* important to him, should he be the fantasy epic or an Earth-based hero or doing cosmic adventures, which also leads to unsure tone and story. With Dark World the main exception, his solo movies have tried to ask something about who he is, though the 1st & Ragnarok did the best really doing so. Infinity War & Endgame messed with a few things in the MCU but nothing more than the Guardians & Thor - what appeared to be proper character arcs were disrupted, and they were forced to deal with the fallout/setup in a way characters like Iron Man and Captain America didn't, as they were done, or characters like Ant-Man or Spider-Man didn't, as they didn't need to so directly tackle things from those movies. Honestly, the main reason I think Loki isn't working is a weird push-pull between two sources of division (and likely editorial mandates): a want to be a bit more like (or at least appeal to the fandom of) MCU Loki but also the standard "bring everyone back to status quo" mandate that undid Superior Spider-Man and Infamous Iron Man (whatever Doom's run was called) and Loki's less villainous era. Instead of Loki being able to grow, he needs to somehow remain a guy who can be something of a villain doing certain types of schemes but now he also has to seem more like "Thor's brother who isn't that bad of a guy, so maybe he's not being bad guy" that creates a poorly pulled together concept. Benny hits on how I'd fix it (try to have long-time core writers/editors/consultants for certain characters), but I'm not so sure it'd work, given that's a hell of a job that I'm not sure people would really want (especially not for the long-term, as would be needed) but also especially given the propensity for Marvel (and I assume DC) to just randomly bring in characters from another comic/corner of the universe without ensuring it doesn't conflict with their use elsewhere (like their solo title).
I want Eric Voss and Benny on more videos together!! This is hype!! Lol
this is awesome!
I watch both of them so this is awesome!!!!
Day 38 of asking to do an audio drama about "Morrison's Batman run" (or at least Batman RIP🙏)
This is really good
if Benny was a newscaster doing monologues id watch the news all day lol, that intro no script was impressive as hell!
The fact that Benny said it's not really that bad...but knowing he has a army background makes you wonder.... dark humor there Benny lol... but really, thank you for your service!
I love these two coming together, just wish Arris Quinones from variant comics was here
maan what a crossover
This is the best🔥🔥
Thank You!
We just needed rob from comics explained and this crossover would’ve been the biggest on KZread
When worlds collide, I was so happy both my favorite things, movies and comics. Hello Eric.
Good Morning!
gotta say i'm a fan of both channels plus comics and mcu and this is the best team up start the you tube avengers with Rob from comics explained and i'll give ALL my money lol
Yoooooooooooooooooo I love you guys, great seeing you together in a vid😚👌
holy shit with Eric? i like how your branching out
Just finished batman gargoyle of gotham 1, and the batmobile is by far the most badass one I have ever seen. Hope you can share this series on your channel.
Can’t wait for this one!
wow what a collab
NR brought me here. Great chemistry and insights!
Erik voss!?!
we need a podcast with you two
The crossover I didn't think I wanted
After I see the thumbnail Me: He's the best guy around. What about the murder he committed? Me: What murder?
Wow Eric Vass and Bennie... Awesme.
Best crossover ever
Surely the Iterative Multiverse provides an underpinning for the writer pivots which you highlight? Sylvie/Lady Loki is supposed to be a narrative counterpoint - the Trickster/Jester/Mischief archetype is barely contained Chaos, it inserts another perspective which if absorbed yields previously unknown/forbidden/occluded knowledge/wisdom onto any situation. The dual purpose of the trickster is often forgotten, insofar as they act like a vaccine for a given trick/scam/ruse into the consciousness of the Aesir. Unfortunate that Thanos got wise to the playbook and so could mitigate against it.
I just wish we could let villains be villains. Quite making popular bad guys become antiheroes just because they are popular (sans joker). And before anyone chimes in with the character growth clause: Peter Parker has been consistently more broke than well off. Batman has been a loner longer than a team player. Sigh.
Benny you and Rob from comics explained should really have a hand in all comic book movies🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
i- this made my brain short circut this si the best crossover of all time
Crossover of the year
Heard u benny rocking the jordans 🔥🔥
Loki’s also had a ton of internalized racism (speciesism?) to deal with having lived in a society that hates his birth people…
Damien, you are one of my favorite humans on the internet
Give me Sal add to this and I would watch this every Friday morning
Can we get a crossover video like this between you and emergency awsome!
I wasn't expecting this.