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  • @MahmoudElgassier
    @MahmoudElgassier8 ай бұрын

    I am so glad these two got together and went back-and-forth with their expertise. So much fun.

  • @xzxscorchedxzx7015

    @xzxscorchedxzx7015

    8 ай бұрын

    I was just about to say the same and I had only seen the short clip in the thumbnail😂

  • @OptimusMaximusNero
    @OptimusMaximusNero8 ай бұрын

    Interestingly, Marvel's Loki was created in the 1940s, decades before Thor and most other known heroes. He first appeared in an issue of the "Venus" series as an episodic villain of the titular heroine.

  • @amiciprocul8501
    @amiciprocul85018 ай бұрын

    I think aside from Iron Man and Robert Downey Jr., one of the scenes that showed that this MCU thing had legs was Tom Hiddleston acting against Anthony Hopkins and showing us there was some real substance here.

  • @TAJIG
    @TAJIG8 ай бұрын

    THIS is the crossover we needed, I’m loving you two together. Would love more joint videos/crossover events with yall

  • @markusmitchell8066
    @markusmitchell80668 ай бұрын

    You honestly don't know how fucking long I've been waiting for this crossover. I love both of you guys and all your channels

  • @frankbivona5924
    @frankbivona59247 ай бұрын

    tom hiddleston is such an underrated actor. hes one of the finest. knows how to play the straightman and get laughs and knows when to turn it off and still be captivating! the wholoe cast is incredible and full of no over actors. they know timing. thats also why loki is a successful franchise.. mcu wise..

  • @deannafassett4816
    @deannafassett48167 ай бұрын

    I absolutely love Tom Hiddleston as Loki. He's my favorite MCU character. He brings so much to Loki💚🖤💚

  • @OptimusMaximusNero
    @OptimusMaximusNero8 ай бұрын

    *Fun fact:* In the Amalgam Universe, Loki and Desaad appear mixed as a single being known as L'ok D'saad

  • @bashengatheblackmanta7003

    @bashengatheblackmanta7003

    8 ай бұрын

    If they were to create a new amalgam universe now, desaad would be merge with ebony maw

  • @ashleysmith5427
    @ashleysmith54278 ай бұрын

    Crazy crossover! Definitely wasn’t expecting this! Love this!

  • @jacquelinejones7787
    @jacquelinejones77878 ай бұрын

    Voss and Benny together?! Dreams do come true 😂

  • @antonymilne1346
    @antonymilne13467 ай бұрын

    I'd actually really enjoy a side series of these guys discussing the changes of characters from panel to screen.

  • @DavidJimenez-tt5ok
    @DavidJimenez-tt5ok8 ай бұрын

    I thought they casted her and Aaron Taylor Jonson because of the 2014 Godzilla movie where they played a married couple

  • @PaulSmith-nb6md

    @PaulSmith-nb6md

    8 ай бұрын

    That is why

  • @_Kwizard
    @_Kwizard8 ай бұрын

    The crossover I never thought I’d see

  • @lamarcknritu
    @lamarcknritu7 ай бұрын

    New Rockstars + Comicstorian = Rockstorian ⚔️🛡️

  • @majidmoro3866
    @majidmoro38668 ай бұрын

    Okay this is my favorite crossover this year love both of you guys soo much ❤

  • @brockreibel672
    @brockreibel6728 ай бұрын

    Wow! 2 of my 3 most watched comics/MCU channels/ KZreadrs In the one video! This is the cross over we needed but don’t deserve

  • @q-kumbah7435

    @q-kumbah7435

    8 ай бұрын

    whats the 3rd??

  • @bashengatheblackmanta7003

    @bashengatheblackmanta7003

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@q-kumbah7435l'm sure it's screencrush

  • @brockreibel672

    @brockreibel672

    8 ай бұрын

    Rob from comics explained, I go to them for different reasons

  • @BrotherNoompsie365
    @BrotherNoompsie3658 ай бұрын

    It's always great to see some of your favorite youtubers collaborate. This was a fun watch

  • @LydRitz
    @LydRitz7 ай бұрын

    New subscriber here, came over from New Rockstars! I love this discussion about Loki. My Dad and I went to see the first Avengers movie together. He grew up reading Fantastic Four, Captain America and Thor but hadn’t kept up with comics and hadn’t seen any other Marvel movie. I hadn’t read any comic books but had seen every Marvel movie leading up to it. After the movie, my Dad kept saying how he couldn’t get over Loki being a “bad guy”, because he couldn’t take him seriously - because Loki was never taken seriously in the comics! But for me, I had no preconceived notions of who Loki “was” in the comics, before the Thor movies or the first Avengers movie, so I just accepted Tom Hiddleston’s version of the character. I’ve had a much more enjoyable ride with the character as a result.

  • @Ironbeargrizz187
    @Ironbeargrizz1878 ай бұрын

    New rockstars and comicstorian the ultimate team up… I’m amped

  • @charlesphilips2045
    @charlesphilips20458 ай бұрын

    Thanks for making this series even more insightful with such an amazing colab. I truly appreciate this.

  • @theoutsiderjess4869
    @theoutsiderjess48698 ай бұрын

    Calling Loki an iago type character is so fitting this is why he works so well because he is constantly being a good brother while simultaneously stabbing thor with a knife to get what he wants

  • @expressiondestination6430
    @expressiondestination64308 ай бұрын

    If I wasn't being evicted and had the money I'd buy 2 bottles😂

  • @TheRealSpiderMew
    @TheRealSpiderMew8 ай бұрын

    Doctor Doom needs to be able to be able to bring that able of Gravitas to everything he does, to have a full personality reaction to everything he does. Tom's Loki in the movies is like how Doom is in the Comics, they are iconic because everyone understands them and they are 3d at this point.

  • @antona.1327

    @antona.1327

    8 ай бұрын

    First, they're nothing alike in the comics. Hiddleston's Loki was first a spoiled whiny brat who then became a loser who gets humiliated by everyone and has sudden change of heart for good despite murdering children and women in the first Avengers movies. Doctor Doom is none of those things - maybe except for being a brat, back when he was still in university with Reed and before he became a supervillain. Second, how about making Loki act like, you know, Loki? And it's funny how you mention these two, considering during the latter part of JMS's run on Thor both of them teamed up and did the most horrific stuff you can imagine supervillains do. They were both despicable and evil in that story.

  • @imcool6666
    @imcool66668 ай бұрын

    the crossover i knew i needed but kept thinking why hasn’t it happened and this is a perfect way to collab, love it, need more parallels from comics and the mcu the expertise from both sides was amazing in this video !!

  • @SonicForges
    @SonicForges8 ай бұрын

    OH YEAH!!! Two of my favorite channels finally colab!! Next colab should be with Variant Comics!!!!

  • @darkLord_Sith99
    @darkLord_Sith998 ай бұрын

    Yooo this is the mashup /cameo / interview I didn’t know I needed, but damn you two are great together

  • @SlimNotShady313
    @SlimNotShady3138 ай бұрын

    This is a crossover that I never expected this like if a DC character would appear in a big Marvel character comic issue

  • @Apocalipsist93
    @Apocalipsist938 ай бұрын

    I love the series, this is an awesome collaboration! Erik is right about you being the comic expert!

  • @23xclusive99
    @23xclusive998 ай бұрын

    Definitely do more of these !!

  • @Werewolf914
    @Werewolf9148 ай бұрын

    This is such a great Collab I love Erik and Benny

  • @LaynePavoggi
    @LaynePavoggi7 ай бұрын

    Loved watching these two collaborate!

  • @Thtguyfry
    @Thtguyfry8 ай бұрын

    this is one of my favorite collabs, i’ve been subbed to you both, since I was in highschool

  • @adrienocasio1022
    @adrienocasio10228 ай бұрын

    The crossover potentials are endless now!!! Casually Comics!! Screencrush!!

  • @xansay
    @xansay8 ай бұрын

    Ngl I clicked on this video because of the thumbnail

  • @shanedufour6432
    @shanedufour64328 ай бұрын

    Please make alot more full stories I listen to them at work and love what you do thanks

  • @tape2263
    @tape22638 ай бұрын

    The collab we all wanted and needed. Great stuff 🔥

  • @seth5529
    @seth55298 ай бұрын

    Really loved seeing Voss here

  • @blackkfist1111
    @blackkfist11117 ай бұрын

    Literally my favorite 2 KZreadrs

  • @ricky9451
    @ricky94518 ай бұрын

    The duo i didn't know i needed

  • @shreeanshrajsharma8328
    @shreeanshrajsharma83288 ай бұрын

    Love the production quality on this one benny

  • @housebased7
    @housebased78 ай бұрын

    This was actually an incredibly insightful video

  • @davidletarte214
    @davidletarte2148 ай бұрын

    i really liked this team-up thanks guys

  • @cheat13
    @cheat138 ай бұрын

    i love the collab! :) Can you make a "The Problem with Black Bolt" with Rob/ComicsExplained as guest, I'm sure he has things to say about Black Bolt xD

  • @SavageColeTrain
    @SavageColeTrain8 ай бұрын

    A collab with Voss? Never in my life have I wanted something so much, and never known till I had received it.

  • @BlakeDeWilde-qh2kz
    @BlakeDeWilde-qh2kz8 ай бұрын

    Benny with the flyest forces I've seen in a while. Sheeeeesh ol son,

  • @Sasu123456789x1
    @Sasu123456789x17 ай бұрын

    This was so great! 👍🏾

  • @AlexisAdrian00
    @AlexisAdrian008 ай бұрын

    The collab I never knew I’d get

  • @richardabia9735
    @richardabia97358 ай бұрын

    Excellent video !!!! I love Benny and i love Eric voss !!! Great people !!!

  • @chriselkinberg1964
    @chriselkinberg19648 ай бұрын

    Best crossover since endgame

  • @Oldmansnacks
    @Oldmansnacks8 ай бұрын

    Imma need more shows with y’all two… finally subed

  • @lukelambert5048
    @lukelambert50488 ай бұрын

    No way!!! Comicstoriean and Eric Voss from New Rockstars together on a video!!!

  • @davidholik1859
    @davidholik18598 ай бұрын

    Now thats some crossover

  • @juancortes5274
    @juancortes52748 ай бұрын

    Great episode guys!!!!

  • @mattvail9641
    @mattvail96418 ай бұрын

    These calabs are amazing cause I love both of these Channels 😜🤘

  • @matthewd9370
    @matthewd93707 ай бұрын

    Really cool crossover! I’d love to see you guys in more videos together

  • @MirzaAliQasimRaza
    @MirzaAliQasimRaza8 ай бұрын

    Love the new format ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @aceoswords
    @aceoswords7 ай бұрын

    Good luck on these man! Hoping these get funded and out there. 🎉

  • @raokieth8691
    @raokieth86918 ай бұрын

    Love the crossover!! It’s our own CPU - Comic Podcast Universe or CPA- Comic Podcast Alliance

  • @Newbyrock23
    @Newbyrock238 ай бұрын

    What a great collab

  • @RedeyedSang
    @RedeyedSang8 ай бұрын

    THIS WAS SO GOOD!!

  • @laverdadescatolica5
    @laverdadescatolica58 ай бұрын

    This is like Superman and Batman talking about comics 😀

  • @Tuaron
    @Tuaron8 ай бұрын

    Ha, a fun crossover/collaboration - I've been watching both of these channels for years now, though had fallen off a bit on both (Comicstorian ironically as I read more comics, can't fully explain that one, New Rockstars just because I can't catch many movies in theatres, and they can get really spoiler-y with video titles/thumbnails sometimes), even if I'm still a fan. Nice to see Benny go head-to-head with Erik Voss, especially as I have wondered about this very topic myself, would've watched an hour or more of this. Quick tangent since it was brought up: I think one of the problems with Chris Hemsworth's Thor has been...actually, it might be a version of the issue Benny raises for comic Loki: the MCU hasn't really known what it wants Thor to be like, so we seem to get different takes in every film, somewhat similar to the other versions (especially as Hemsworth can keep a level of continuity), but a bit disjointed. In addition, they literally have no idea what they really *want to do with* Thor - what things are *really* important to him, should he be the fantasy epic or an Earth-based hero or doing cosmic adventures, which also leads to unsure tone and story. With Dark World the main exception, his solo movies have tried to ask something about who he is, though the 1st & Ragnarok did the best really doing so. Infinity War & Endgame messed with a few things in the MCU but nothing more than the Guardians & Thor - what appeared to be proper character arcs were disrupted, and they were forced to deal with the fallout/setup in a way characters like Iron Man and Captain America didn't, as they were done, or characters like Ant-Man or Spider-Man didn't, as they didn't need to so directly tackle things from those movies. Honestly, the main reason I think Loki isn't working is a weird push-pull between two sources of division (and likely editorial mandates): a want to be a bit more like (or at least appeal to the fandom of) MCU Loki but also the standard "bring everyone back to status quo" mandate that undid Superior Spider-Man and Infamous Iron Man (whatever Doom's run was called) and Loki's less villainous era. Instead of Loki being able to grow, he needs to somehow remain a guy who can be something of a villain doing certain types of schemes but now he also has to seem more like "Thor's brother who isn't that bad of a guy, so maybe he's not being bad guy" that creates a poorly pulled together concept. Benny hits on how I'd fix it (try to have long-time core writers/editors/consultants for certain characters), but I'm not so sure it'd work, given that's a hell of a job that I'm not sure people would really want (especially not for the long-term, as would be needed) but also especially given the propensity for Marvel (and I assume DC) to just randomly bring in characters from another comic/corner of the universe without ensuring it doesn't conflict with their use elsewhere (like their solo title).

  • @lukelambert5048
    @lukelambert50488 ай бұрын

    I want Eric Voss and Benny on more videos together!! This is hype!! Lol

  • @lazynerd3211
    @lazynerd32118 ай бұрын

    this is awesome!

  • @dualrecords6833
    @dualrecords68338 ай бұрын

    I watch both of them so this is awesome!!!!

  • @ajscott3122
    @ajscott31228 ай бұрын

    Day 38 of asking to do an audio drama about "Morrison's Batman run" (or at least Batman RIP🙏)

  • @thugsaint1
    @thugsaint17 ай бұрын

    This is really good

  • @xvl12
    @xvl128 ай бұрын

    if Benny was a newscaster doing monologues id watch the news all day lol, that intro no script was impressive as hell!

  • @vergilrules1616
    @vergilrules16167 ай бұрын

    The fact that Benny said it's not really that bad...but knowing he has a army background makes you wonder.... dark humor there Benny lol... but really, thank you for your service!

  • @ejmatoni8678
    @ejmatoni86787 ай бұрын

    I love these two coming together, just wish Arris Quinones from variant comics was here

  • @strgz5329
    @strgz53298 ай бұрын

    maan what a crossover

  • @23xclusive99
    @23xclusive998 ай бұрын

    This is the best🔥🔥

  • @brianp316
    @brianp3168 ай бұрын

    Thank You!

  • @matthewivester8531
    @matthewivester85318 ай бұрын

    We just needed rob from comics explained and this crossover would’ve been the biggest on KZread

  • @vitorsfate
    @vitorsfate7 ай бұрын

    When worlds collide, I was so happy both my favorite things, movies and comics. Hello Eric.

  • @kingshadow8782
    @kingshadow87828 ай бұрын

    Good Morning!

  • @robertjackson8822
    @robertjackson88228 ай бұрын

    gotta say i'm a fan of both channels plus comics and mcu and this is the best team up start the you tube avengers with Rob from comics explained and i'll give ALL my money lol

  • @blkb211
    @blkb2118 ай бұрын

    Yoooooooooooooooooo I love you guys, great seeing you together in a vid😚👌

  • @CaliIzActive
    @CaliIzActive8 ай бұрын

    holy shit with Eric? i like how your branching out

  • @rustyshackleford020
    @rustyshackleford0208 ай бұрын

    Just finished batman gargoyle of gotham 1, and the batmobile is by far the most badass one I have ever seen. Hope you can share this series on your channel.

  • @Finlay0902
    @Finlay09028 ай бұрын

    Can’t wait for this one!

  • @ethanjoseph4902
    @ethanjoseph49028 ай бұрын

    wow what a collab

  • @gr8tbigtreehugger
    @gr8tbigtreehugger8 ай бұрын

    NR brought me here. Great chemistry and insights!

  • @branley085
    @branley0858 ай бұрын

    Erik voss!?!

  • @bigmanarts
    @bigmanarts8 ай бұрын

    we need a podcast with you two

  • @RandomSheeep1
    @RandomSheeep18 ай бұрын

    The crossover I didn't think I wanted

  • @tszyauho3431
    @tszyauho34318 ай бұрын

    After I see the thumbnail Me: He's the best guy around. What about the murder he committed? Me: What murder?

  • @adamsifford6228
    @adamsifford62288 ай бұрын

    Wow Eric Vass and Bennie... Awesme.

  • @rivwilson9330
    @rivwilson93308 ай бұрын

    Best crossover ever

  • @salvadorlloret-farina8767
    @salvadorlloret-farina87678 ай бұрын

    Surely the Iterative Multiverse provides an underpinning for the writer pivots which you highlight? Sylvie/Lady Loki is supposed to be a narrative counterpoint - the Trickster/Jester/Mischief archetype is barely contained Chaos, it inserts another perspective which if absorbed yields previously unknown/forbidden/occluded knowledge/wisdom onto any situation. The dual purpose of the trickster is often forgotten, insofar as they act like a vaccine for a given trick/scam/ruse into the consciousness of the Aesir. Unfortunate that Thanos got wise to the playbook and so could mitigate against it.

  • @Jscallen13
    @Jscallen138 ай бұрын

    I just wish we could let villains be villains. Quite making popular bad guys become antiheroes just because they are popular (sans joker). And before anyone chimes in with the character growth clause: Peter Parker has been consistently more broke than well off. Batman has been a loner longer than a team player. Sigh.

  • @baghdadbaby5379
    @baghdadbaby53798 ай бұрын

    Benny you and Rob from comics explained should really have a hand in all comic book movies🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️

  • @aaravpuri119
    @aaravpuri1192 ай бұрын

    i- this made my brain short circut this si the best crossover of all time

  • @evankessler2762
    @evankessler27628 ай бұрын

    Crossover of the year

  • @adamlegros1180
    @adamlegros11808 ай бұрын

    Heard u benny rocking the jordans 🔥🔥

  • @shanzhi3184
    @shanzhi31847 ай бұрын

    Loki’s also had a ton of internalized racism (speciesism?) to deal with having lived in a society that hates his birth people…

  • @theboss6033
    @theboss60337 ай бұрын

    Damien, you are one of my favorite humans on the internet

  • @ericrobins5188
    @ericrobins51888 ай бұрын

    Give me Sal add to this and I would watch this every Friday morning

  • @alexgaray1216
    @alexgaray12168 ай бұрын

    Can we get a crossover video like this between you and emergency awsome!

  • @shirouemiya1650
    @shirouemiya16508 ай бұрын

    I wasn't expecting this.

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