I like John Blake as a character. I don’t think he was ever meant to truly be Robin. I think he was always meant to be the next Batman. Having his name be Robin was more so an Easter egg. He’s an idea like Batman.

@lord_egg

9 ай бұрын

Yeah it was pretty clever too. It was kind of a way of showing as well how he's the prodigy of Batman. The next one up, the eldest to pick up the mantle.

@56postoffice

9 ай бұрын

I like this theory. Why be Robin when you can be The Boss?

@dabatman

9 ай бұрын

It was already confirmed he was robin

@christianmanka3884

9 ай бұрын

@@dabatman Christopher Nolan has stated in an interview that John Blake isn’t Robin

@marcprimo1471

9 ай бұрын

I thought the same

I don’t have a problem with this Robin because I’m 100% sure that his name being Robin is just a reference and he’s going to be Nightwing completely skipping a Robin stage

@erikfinkel2717

9 ай бұрын

BINGO!

@elliotsturtplus340

9 ай бұрын

Yea but meh…… like seriously John Blake? Who the fuck is John Blake??

@chowderman8888

9 ай бұрын

What?! How can be be nightwing.

@TotallyNotKanye

9 ай бұрын

@@chowderman8888he*

@ethanlynch6918

9 ай бұрын

@@chowderman8888 Batman is dead everyone in the city saw him blow himself up so if he just went out in a spare batsuit it would weaken the legend of the Bat

His real name was Robin Blake. He could’ve became the new Batman or even Nightwing. It would’ve been very interesting to see if the Nolan story were to continue.

@aaronanderson16

9 ай бұрын

I believe years back I read that Joseph Gordon Levitt was asked if WB approached him if he would be open to making a sequel or what not where he became Batman… he said he would be open to but only under one condition. If Christopher Nolan was the one making it. And consider Nolan has said multiple times, and reiterating during the press tour for Oppenheimer, that he will never do another superhero movie.

To understand many of the issues with how the Nolan films characterized the heroes and villains, you just have to think “how can I make this character into something people who are embarrassed by comics would enjoy.” And then it all makes sense.

@yannijayson5983

9 ай бұрын

Pretty much, yeah. His whole thing was bringing batman into the real world and not making comic book movies. Comic's are typically larger than life and don't take themselves too seriously.

@ubahfly5409

9 ай бұрын

Failed

@Qaosbringer

8 ай бұрын

@@yannijayson5983 The problem of these movies are "Batman in the real world" cliched idea was just empty hype. "Batman" in the comics were already in "the real world". Especially comic books like The Year One. Yet Nolan sidelined his own movies just to jump on that weird hype bandwagon.

@Qaosbringer

8 ай бұрын

@Ksawarrior it still doesn't make sense.

Honestly my biggest problem with TDK incarnations of characters is in how badly Nolan did Barbara Gordon. He literally gave Barbara her cinematic debut (not counting Batman & Robin there as she was a different character in that) and what does he do? Give her zero lines and makes her a background character being held at gunpoint. You wasted Barbara, Nolan!

I actually really liked the ending of the dark knight rises because in a way it made sense that Bruce would quietly retire because in the beginning of this film Bruce was a broken man in a broken body, grieving and clearly didn't want to be batman ever again. So when he leaves the mantle to John he sees someone who cared about Gotham as much as he did before he became incredibly broken. However as you said this character in undercooked and undeveloped making it a little hollow for a sendoff

For all this films flaws the scene of Bruce escaping the pit is still one of the most inspiring things I’ve ever seen, I’ve fallen into a bad place recently and that scene really gave me hope and belief to just keep going

@HishamA.N_Comicbroe

9 ай бұрын

Agreed! It's probably one of Nolan's best scenes imo.

@rossthompson8652

9 ай бұрын

Hang in there, your time to shine is coming.

@sideskroll

9 ай бұрын

Really? So an IMPOSSIBLE FEAT inspires you? Why not walk on the moon without a suit or a ship then?

@samcjay9228

9 ай бұрын

@@sideskroll Why even say this and spread negativity? People have different feelings than you bro.

@sideskroll

9 ай бұрын

@@samcjay9228 Because the scene is OBJECTIVELY terrible AND stupid. I don't have anything against the guy. And I hope he's better now but being "inspired" by a scene in which a dude with a BROKEN BACK gets it fix and is ready to climb out of an IMPOSSIBLY STEEP. DEEP HOLE in the ground. And as if that wasn't enough managed to re-enter a city that is currently fully closed and under siege WHICH WAS AROUND THE GLOBE FROM THE PLACE FROM WHICH HE "ESCAPED" MIND YOU! And, not happy with that manages to find a way to his secret underground cave. Get gasoline or whatever flammable liquid PAINT A GIANT BAT and light it on fire! Is the epitome of stupid. Literally. The DEFINITION of stupid. And no sane person could argue ANYTHING in favor of that whole sequence.

This Robins arc shpuld have been a mixture between Azrael and Jason Todd's red hood. After Bane beats Batman and Gotham turns into chaos this Robin should have become a vigilante called the Red Hood (his outfit is simple but effective to turn into a real life movie outfit. It would make his transition to future Batman more believable.

@Volvagia1927

9 ай бұрын

I'm actually going in another direction: I agree with Nolan that "Robin doesn't fit this series", but not because "adapting one of the Bat sidekicks wouldn't work." Specifically: For such a Jim Gordon focused series, why was a 2 film Batgirl arc not in the plans for the trilogy? And that "she took the kids and left town" line at the start of Rises was...WOW. I can only take that as aggressively, and exclusively, "cult of the dude" decision making, even when it doesn't make any sense.

The scene where he explains how he figured out Bruce is Batman is so stupid. He saw that Bruce was putting on a fake smile, so he must be Batman. Nolan clearly held the belief that a Robin can’t work in a “realistic” interpretation of Batman so this was his terrible compromise. This is why I believe the Reeves Batman series NEEDS a Robin. I have no desire for another realistic Batman movie series without Robin. Batman’s sidekick does not hold back the character, he lifts him up. Bruce adopting a son who is a mirrored version of himself allows Bruce to become more hopeful and heal as he is able to help that boy move past his trauma in a way he never could

@darkservantofheaven

9 ай бұрын

Gonna be so dumb. 2 batman movies in separate universes both having Robin (Dick in Reeve's trilogy and possibly Damien in Guns series

@fireofhislove3395

9 ай бұрын

You don't understand.

@silver______

9 ай бұрын

@@darkservantofheavenI Don’t see what’s Dumb about that. Robin belongs in both and Would compliment Both characters greatly. Plus its two different robins, personality wise they are stark contrasts. Nobody wants to see Batman late in his Career with no Bat-family for some reason. And most people don’t want to see another ‘Grounded’ trilogy that Is scared of using one of Batmans most important characters.

@magallanesagustin4952

9 ай бұрын

@@fireofhislove3395 explain, then.

@fireofhislove3395

9 ай бұрын

​@@magallanesagustin4952 Being angry in your bones.

The idea that Batman isn't any more sane than the villains he fights, fundamentally breaks the idea of Batman. It's a flexible enough idea to break with such a variation (so to speak), but still much of the point to Batman is that he is a superbly sane man fighting insanity and winning. The Batsuit takes advantage of their weaknesses, but he's basically a solo SWAT detective using non-lethal special weapons and tactics in personal duels with more-or-less-evil madness, minimizing their damage to the world and restoring sanity.

Batman Forever: The closest to the comics which says a lot. Batman & Robin: Fuck that shit. The Dark Knight Rises: Not really even a Robin. DCEU: Dead before the franchise even started.

@noachlive

9 ай бұрын

The Batman II: will be the best version

I actually liked the character arc too bad we.ll never see it come full circle

The Dark Knight Rises was a very good and underrated movie. Not the best of the trilogy, but a solid ending. And yes John was not Robin per se, but was indeed a representation or symbol of what Robin was. It wasn't executed perfectly at all, but I think with JGL's acting within an overall good movie, it (sort of) worked.

I so wish they had just not done this at all...I am hoping that Batman 2 has the balls to have a child Robin.I think that would be sick as hell

@HishamA.N_Comicbroe

9 ай бұрын

It seems like they are

@darkservantofheaven

9 ай бұрын

He may be 13

@dadeleemurphy85

9 ай бұрын

you know what would be sicker ? A caucasian Jim Gordon.

@silver______

9 ай бұрын

@@Ghostbustersfan01Rob Said he only wanted to Do Robin if he’s 13 & reeves was beside him Agreeing.

@StuckonStupid84

9 ай бұрын

​@@silver______ That doesn't sound right.

I may be in the minority here but I loved the Dark Knight Rises’ Robin. Nolan found a way to honor the spirit of the character without making Batman look like a sociopath. It’s one of the rarely spoken truths of the Batman mythos... Robin is a POV character for a child. Once you age out of elementary school, the notion of Bruce Wayne putting a literal child in harms way completely takes you out of your suspension of disbelief.

I would recommend every Batman fan to read Scott Snyder's Batman: The Black Mirror... it explores Dick Grayson taking on the mantle of the Bat in the absence of Bruce, and the toll it takes on him.

7:47 Bruce did know his first name. He was listed in the will as Robin Blake. That’s why when he gave the name John Blake and they said it wasn’t there, he responded by handing over his ID and saying “try my legal name.”

Everything you said about Blake in the first half made me like him a hell of a lot more. And now I want to watch DKR again.

for the record, it's kind of ambiguous but i don't think that ending was ever intended to be taken at face value. i think alfred was just seeing what he wanted to see

@forcecalibration924

9 ай бұрын

Exactly it wasn’t meant to be taking literally

@israelsaadesnoozer377

9 ай бұрын

Christopher Nolan and Christian Bale both said that isn't true and it actually happened.

@eddiediaz5518

9 ай бұрын

That’d make sense if it wasn’t for the fact that they revealed that Bruce fixed the autopilot issue with the Bat

@joshfactor1

9 ай бұрын

@@eddiediaz5518 think about it; if he fixed the autpoilot, why would he have needed to get in the cockpit?

@elijahlee3610

9 ай бұрын

​@@joshfactor1because autopilot needs to be turned on from inside.......

I didn't even know Robin was in The Dark Knight 💀

This movie in general is often thought of as one of the most disappointing comic book movies and personally when I first watched it I kind of hated it and years later I still don't really care for it. Honestly this was probably Christopher Nolan's sloppiest film. I think a big part of the problem is built into Christopher Nolan's understanding of this version of Batman is that he doesn't want to be Batman, he wants to end. I mean it's built into the premise The Dark Knight even and so this leads you a lot of problems because the concept of a Batman who doesn't want to be Batman is extremely antithetical to the source this has never been a recurring thing in the comics that Batman doesn't want to be Batman, that he's looking for reasons to retire. This unfortunately solidifies this version of Batman as just a Nolan character and not really an adaptation of the comic book character of Batman. The film, despite wanting to take a more "realistc" approach with Batman than traditionally depicted, suffers from too many leaps in logic such as Bruce Wayne miraculously arriving back in Gotham after escaping his underground prison, GCPD officer John Blake (who shouldn't have been Robin) happening to know that Wayne is Batman, and Bane’s lair being beneath Wayne Tower’s armory without Wayne or Lucius Fox knowing to name a few. One of the most multifaceted and glaring problems come with Tom Hardy’s Bane, who, admittedly is literally nothing like his comic book counterpart whatsoever and is also extremely disappointing as a character. Everything from his voice has always been the subject of heavy criticism for being too hard to take seriously and a mefiocre design, his changed nationality (Bane is Hispanic in the comics), his motivation, his background and his origin is entirely different to the point where it might as well be a different character. The film is also undermined by Bane’s less than underwhelming downfall in two major ways. The twist that Miranda Tate is actually Talia al Ghul instantly negates Bane’s impact because all the credit for the masterplan is taken away from Bane, making him little more than a thug who has been acting, not out of greed or revolutionary zeal, but because he was told by his leader. Essentially, he’s reduced to a bodyguard/subordinate for the sake of having one of the most obvious and underwhelming plot twists in superhero cinematic history. As is, it falls flat, and so does Bane’s arc upon completion, especially since he’s easily killed off by Catwoman a minute later. I really wasn't a huge fan of this interpretation of Talia. Talia (when writen properly) is not a straight-up villain and she is more morally ambiguous and genuinely loves Batman however she is very loyal to her father and his mission despite not agreeing with his dystopic methods. I always prefer Talia to be more morally ambiguous than just a straight-up villain. On that note, Tate’s deceitful role as Batman’s new love interest doesn’t work, either. Not only is there little if any chemistry in the film between Christian Bale and Marion Cotillard, but their love scene seems downright illogical and artificial because Wayne just spent eight years as a hermit due to losing Rachel Dawes in The Dark Knight. Yes, Alfred encouraged him to move on, and it’s certainly possible that he’d recover from such grief. The ending is a tad contrived as well, at least in execution. A lot of people felt that things wrap up too neatly by having Blake discover the Batcave. At the same time, however, the reveal that Blake’s first name is Robin feels tacked on for fan service. It can’t help but make your eyes roll, as does the closing scene in which Alfred sees Wayne and Kyle at the French café. As for Anne Hathaway as Catwoman it honestly just feels like another actress playing Catwoman. I never buy it when she plays the more villainous side of the character and it doesn't seem like it's intentional either. It's honestly just kind of bland.

@testableracer

9 ай бұрын

I know its only been like 7 minutes but i feel as if im the only one who has or who will read your entire comment. While i disagree with a lot of what you mentioned, i do agree this isnt the greatest adaptation. At the time, and as far as now, im convinced most 3rd in thrilogys seem to be the downfall, and for that i take this movie for what its worth and happy to move on from it.

@forgetfulfiremage7124

9 ай бұрын

I appreciate this comment and agree on pretty much all your points.

@HeinsenbergMeth

4 ай бұрын

I dont agree, but you at least wrote your arguments

I wonder if Blake just winged it, learning on his own with no Alfred around. Maybe having conversations with Jim Gordon. Now that the mayor was dead, how ambitious would he be as Commissioner? Would he request funding to beef up the GCPD? More police stations? Would he do a massive hiring search in as well as outside of Gotham to have more boots on the ground? Would he marry again?

I think the idea is that he actually already is Robin being a bit of a sidekick to Batman in this movie and knowing his identity but it seems like he’s set up just to be the next Batman

I never really saw him as Robin in the traditional sense. More of an easter egg than anything. I think a continuation of the story would be pretty cool. I came up with an idea. Put quite a bit of thought into it. If anyone is interested, I would love to hear someone's opinion on it. Here it is. "Gotham Knights" The story picks up seven years after the events of The Dark Knight Rises. Bruce Wayne is still presumed to be dead, and former GCPD Detective John Blake has been acting as Gotham City's Dark Knight. He didn't take up the mantle of Batman however. Instead, John Blake put his own spin on it and took to the rooftops as The Red Robin. Blake has had Commissioner Jim Gordon and Lucius Fox assisting him as they did Bruce Wayne years ago. We learn a bit about the criminals The Red Robin has taken down over the past seven years such as Waylon "Croc" Jones. A drug and weapons runner and enforcer for Gotham's street gangs who became notorious for committing acts of cannibalism to intimidate his enemies. (This version of Croc isn't a metahuman of course. He's just this massive black dude who suffers from Ichthyosis and has his teeth filed into points). Pamela "Poision Ivy" Isley. A brilliant scientist turned echo terrorist who attempted to destory Gotham in order to "restore the natural beauty than man destroyed with their steel and concrete." Lastly, Dr. Harleen Quinzel. A psychiatrist who lost her job after becoming dangerously obsessed with the Joker while she treated him at Arkham Asylum. Following the Joker's transfer to Black Gate Prison and subsequent execution, Quinzel slipped into complete psychosis and because committing Joker inspired acts of terror under the name Harlequin. Now, a gang war between newly minted crime lords Oswald "The Penguin" Cobblepot and Roman "Black Mask" Sionis has erupted in the streets of Gotham. When Jim Gordon is tragically killed and both gangs brashly take credit for it, his 25-year-old daughter Barbara, a discharged U.S. Marine, returns to Gotham looking for answers, and vengeance. Barbara is welcomed in by John Blake, and she adopts the mantle of "Batwoman" as a tribute to the man who save her and her little brother from Harvey "Two Face" when they were kids. Together, with the help of Lucius Fox's son, Luke and two troubled teenagers, Drake Todd, aka Hood and Stephanie Cain aka The Bat, they wage all out war on the two gangs.

The Robin of the dark knight trilogy should have been the fake batmen

@darkservantofheaven

9 ай бұрын

You mean one of the copycats from The Dark Knight?

@Beisenterg

9 ай бұрын

@@darkservantofheaven yes

If Nolan wanted a realistic live-action Robin, it should have been a little orphan boy with a red sweater. Batman saves him early in the movie, and the kid returns later on to help Batman out. Yeah it's cheesy, but so is the actual ending of the movie!

Great vid as always but the audio isn't great

Y’all ever feel bad for Johnny Blake? Not John Blake, Johnny Blake. A random kid in the comics who Joker steals his report card from. “Boy, oh boy! Three A’s this month instead of Three D’s last time! Gee! Wait’ll Dad sees this!” Joker: “He won’t see it- because I’m taking it!”

@darkservantofheaven

9 ай бұрын

That a thing or made up?

@dibsdibs3495

9 ай бұрын

@@darkservantofheaven it’s real. It’s from Batman #13 “A Comedy of Tears” in 1942.

In hindsight what I thought they should’ve done is replace Blake, Jim Gordon jr, and that little boy from _Begins_ with Barbra Gordon,

1:05 that edit got me 😂

I think the whole Robin thing was a wink to the fans. Bale had said he would never do a batman movie with him in it. I think they played that part right and made me want more

My biggest criticism of the Nolan trilogy is that his Batman hates being Batman. His Bruce leaves the role TWICE! Dreaming of retirement just isn't Batman. He's not training successors, he's giving otherwise hopeless kids a sense of direction (and lowkey building an army).

Unfortunately, The Dark Knight Rises is the weakest of the trilogy. A Robin that doesn’t make sense, an excellent version of Bane basically killed offscreen, a lackluster appearance of Talia Al Ghul, and a Catwoman that barely resembled her comics counterpart. It’s still not a bad movie, not at all, but the final movie of the Nolan trilogy could have been so much better.

@marks2807

9 ай бұрын

It feels like they only had half a story with Bane, and threw together the rest. This trilogy feels like one of those TV shows where the first few seasons are great, but they have no idea how to end the show. Game of Thrones, and How I met Your Mother come to mind.

@jasondiend4248

9 ай бұрын

Bane could have been an excellent version of Bane if he was the mastermind behind everything instead he wasn't. That is what kills Bane's entire arc is that he isn't actually the brains he's the face of the organization. The brains is Talia who is also poorly written. Only for it to loop back to the first movie. Had there been a faceless villain then Talia reveal and no Bane I feel the movie would have played better or no Talia and focus on Bane's intellect and his need to challenge the Bat to prove who is the best.

@kysen1225

6 ай бұрын

Nolanverse Catwoman is based on Golden Age Catwoman the Cat and Batman 66 Catwoman

“Who is catwoman?” He was underwhelming. Just barely any screen time and no development. I agree with everything you mentioned in the video. Awesome video too. I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on dark knight’s cat woman.

Oh god that Kevin Conroy moment at the end got to me

I am shocked that you feel that way.I totally enjoy this character and I felt even though he did not have great screen time he was definitely worthy of being the next Batman.additionally I wish that a fourth movie have been made with Joseph Gordon-Levitt.

I’ll say that every trait you described also described Dick Grayson. He too had an attitude at points in his life and he too was an amazing detective. So I do feel Blake is meant to be Grayson specifically but that’s imo

I am watching this with Dark Knight Rises in the background

If they were to set up a sucessor it should have been Barbara Gordon, since she was (briefly) in The Dark Knight where Batman rescues her from Two-Face.

If they could get the design of the Robin outfit right, so that it doesn't look like, a bit of a joke.

@KenMasters.

9 ай бұрын

Batman Forever had a bad@ss Robin suit. (Nipples aside)

I'm literally watching the Nolan trilogy right now I didn't even know Robin was going to be robin but in all honesty I saw him as a mix of Jason and a new character because when I watched this I didn't know much about Robin's character

Despite the message that the film was trying to convey, not ANYONE can be Batman. Bruce spent most of his life receiving the very best training from masters in various fields. In the comics and other media, the Robins and other members of the Bat Family are trained extensively by Batman himself. Here it's just: "Here's all my stuff. Good luck!" Blake may be a trained police officer, but if police training was anywhere near the level of Batman's, the city wouldn't need Batman in the first place! Realistically, Blake isn't much better than the Batman copycats in The Dark Knight. I thought it was a joke when Batman said that the difference between them was that he's not wearing hockey pads, but apparently his mindset is that all it takes is gadgets to be Batman.

name of the music in the background???

jgl is pretty talented so i don't think he was the problem but, rather, the writers

robin is in this universe

Bruce better be paying for my man's Bat cave's electricity Bill

I would have added the character since TDK, giving blake more development and aproach to bruce and gordon, and maybe helpping to find the joker instead of lucious, and saying idk, that he learned fight in the streets since he was all by himself or something like that, just giving more to the character.

Robin shoulda been the kid that Batman gave his device to in Batman Begins. But grown up and able to get fingerprints from it.

I'd love to see a sequel to this where he is older and took up being Nightwing or something

I think portrayal of “Robin” is perfect. In the sense that it’s a semi origin movie (I.e black panther in civil war). The problem is the reveal of his true name should’ve led to a stand alone movie called NIGHTWING. Then whatever emptiness would’ve been full filled

John Blake is Nolanverse Robin Christopher Nolan believed that the Character of Robin was too unrealistic for his world so he reimagined the Character as a Policeman who helps Batman at the end of the Trilogy it seems that John Blake becomes the New Batman

The problem is that it’s the kid from angels in the outfield

Didn’t realize how many elements of Tim Drake’s character were in John Blake until seeing this video. And yeah, the film was missing a lot with John and other characters. Still enjoyed it, if not quite as much as the prior entries in the trilogy. And who *is* Catwoman? I’d be interested in seeing what you think of the ways the character has been portrayed onscreen in general… or at least how you think the version in “Rises” compares to the ones in “Batman Returns,” “Gotham,” and “The Batman.” :)

I remember the first time I watched this movie when it came out I said out loud to myself and my mother "Tim drake?" when the lady mentions he hould use his real name, I got all hyped and then she said "Robin" and I got confused

@connorraleigh1122

9 ай бұрын

For context I was 9 and have been a massive batman fan for most my life

Tbh, i only saw Rises once. Midnight release in IMAX. I was really excited since Nolan said in interviews that Rises was more of a sequel to Begins than Dark Knight. And i always preferred Begins as a BATMAN movie, even if technically Dark Knight is a better MOVIE. I was so disappointed. I honestly don't know how people like Rises. But i'm glad they do. I just wish i was one of them. But i'll never be.

One noun plus one verb “Robin Begins” problem solved

John Blake is a great character, and he's interesting as a sort of mashup of the Robins, but he really isn't a robin at the end of the day

Blake was clearly not going to be Robin, but the next Batman. This worked fine for Chris Nolan's vision of the Batman legend. There is no need to try to reconcile other versions of the legend. I also agree that Batman Beyond is another great interpretation of the Batman saga.

If you use tdkr as set up then create a new movie where he tries to be Batman but realizes he is his own character and creates NIGHTWING it would’ve been perfect… ROBIN BECOMES NIGHTWING

They could have avoided a lot of criticism by just cutting that "my real name is Robin" dialogue. The character and his arc were otherwise fine. They also could have just named him Dick Grayson to begin with. He has the beat cop and Batman successor parts of Dick's story, he just doesn't have the Acrobat and Robin parts

@mattimusprimal637

9 ай бұрын

Having Robin as his real name in Dark Knight Rises, is the equivalent of Batman or Flash being Terry McGinnis’ or Wally West’s real name!🤦‍♂️

@mrcritical6751

9 ай бұрын

Calling him Dick Grayson probably would’ve been a death sentence cause people would be complaining about how he wasn’t becoming Robin

@mattimusprimal637

9 ай бұрын

@@mrcritical6751 Then he should’ve been named Knight John Blake, as a homage to Batman aka The Dark Knight! Instead of Robin John Blake.

All Orphans are good people -Batman

If I we're making the movie, I would have taken a page out of Batman Beyond. Have Bruce be retired, but maybe when Alfred had to run an errand in Gotham one day Robin was trying to steal the tires off of his car. They tracked him down back to home for boys, instead of punishing him, Bruce adopted him. Began training him to be his replacement, and give him a chance at a better life. However, Robin ended up going his own way. Became a detective to continue bringing criminals to justice. It would help explain why he is the one leading the rebellion, as well as why he is next in line to take up the mantle of Batman.

I guess, John Blake would become Nightwing. It's just sad Christopher Nolan never made a 4th dark knight move, like: rise of Nightwing. 😮

Maybe a series in Netflix to cement him as robin

"baby faced do gooders" Yeah that's Dick Grayson right there

My main issue is that since batman lost his money, robin will not be able to afford to fix and replace the technology that was given to him. So for batman standards he would be a very half ass robin.

hey Vee do u plan on covering “Justice League: Crisis on Two earths”?

..."John Blank" is to "The Dark Knight" what "Broom Boy" was to "Jake Skywalker"...

*intro* "Everything" *video end*

He was Batman Beyond

Blake kinda sounds like Drake kinda like a reference to Tim Drake. I know he has a little bit of everyone Robin in him but Blake sounds like Drake

If only Nolan and Bale didn't have anything against sidekicks. Taylor Lautner would've been perfect as Robin in the second and third film, because he's exactly like the Teen Titans version of the character.

The only problem was that they set him up at the end and we got nothing of it.

If it makes anyone feel better; I'd say that Terminator Salvation movie was kind of a bit more on the bland side compared to "The Dark Knight" Trilogy; The only thing really interesting about it is Sam Worthington's "T-700 prototype" Marcus Wright character.

i saw this movie in a theather in miami beach. when they mentione dhis name was robin there was standing ovation

@darkservantofheaven

9 ай бұрын

Funny, cuz in the theater here in California, my theater groaned....

@CokinaClutch

9 ай бұрын

@@darkservantofheaven when i saw grindhouse's trailer for thanksgiving everyone groaned and cringed during the trampoline scene

I think it’s fine, it’s a completely different take and works for the themes of the movie. It’s not actually supposed to be Robin, at least not in the traditional sense.

I think it what’s intentional it was mention of a fourth movie and I guess it could be more of things get out of hand and the city and John goes for help to Bruce or hi helps from long distant something like that

I would’ve called him Batboy cause he is more than Robin but not as much as Batman & when he proves to be even better, he would still use that name to lower his enemies’ guards & beat them

That being said, WHO IS ALL THE CATWOMANS! {g}

In fact, I have an idea that is more suitable than Nolan's handling of Robin. On one hand, stay true to the original and introduce Jason Todd as Robin, but make his death an extremely dramatic turning point event that makes Batman rethink what it means to be a vigilante. On the other hand, remove Dick Grayson because his origin story is too cliché and doesn't fit a modern adaptation. The aftermath of Jason's death would completely transform the meaning of Robin. There would still be successors to Robin, but it would no longer mean being a vigilante like Batman, and Robin would not inherit Batman's mantle. Instead, Robin would become a new symbol that brings a completely new meaning to Gotham City's protector, like the hacker group DedSec in the Ubisoft game Watch Dogs - ubiquitous and not just anyone wearing suits to become a vigilante, but completely sublimated. Of course, the above idea is based on my idea of ​​rebooting the DCEU version of Batman. I think if DCEU's Batman were rebooted as a work similar to Nolan's trilogy, it might quietly make up for the various mistakes Nolan made and inherit the good parts of Nolan's trilogy. In addition, it is based on the artistic design of Batman by Zack Snyder's team, which would be a perfect presentation of Batman. However, what I am talking about is not movies, but video games. Because DCEU movies are already a thing of the past and are completely dead products. But what if it could be made into video-games? That would be the redemption of Snyderverse Batman. I am currently planning to crowdfund with my friends in the gaming industry within two years. If you are interested, please PM me. Thank you very much.

@liamdean3478

9 ай бұрын

In my vision, Barbara Gordon, Tim Drake, and others can join the Bat Family in a whole new way, becoming a behind-the-scenes, invisible society similar to Dedsec in Watch Dogs. They can use the internet as a channel to expose the truth and call on Gotham citizens to get involved and do something. Moreover, they will completely elevate Robin's symbol and surpass the meaning of the Bat symbol, becoming a new form of Gotham Knights.

If he was that blonde kid that Batman nodded to in Begins, y didn’t he change his hair?

So what you're saying is that it's drastically under written and under developed.

I didn’t get the opinion that Nolan was … all that invested in rises, at least not compared to begins and dark knight

You SOB!!! 😭😭😭 who told you to add those awesome cameos at the end!!!!! Smh man I miss Kevin 😞🙏🏿🕊️

The problem with the Nolan trilogy is that aside from an iconic, beloved, original portrayal of a seminal character in the second movie ( Eckhart was equally great ) the whole series was kind of..... eh. The mystique surrounding Ledgers death and his role cloud a lotbif memories, and covers up a bunch of rather average movies ( Dark Knight obviously the best). We got a Batman that lasted a month or two at best, went into hiding for 7 yrs, came back, was immediately sidelined again, only to o ce again at the end disappear. A whole slew of Batman's rouge gallery never even mentioned. No aura of a Batman world, Gotham City is boring, and plain. Aside from good performances from the cast nothing really was memorable. The John Blake thing seemed forced abd hokey. Using the Robin moniker as a sake of pleasing fan boys. I get some wanting that realism and grounding. But this is Batman. Its a comic book character. There just seems a lack of charm in this trilogy Imopo.

@mrcritical6751

9 ай бұрын

Agreed, that’s what bothers me about realistic Batman in general, honestly. The need for him to be realistic results in a world that lacks that sense of wonder. Plus it means characters like Clayface, Manbat or Mr Freeze never get their time to shine

Secretary: You should use your full name, i like that name Robins real name Dick Grayson 😅

Btw at 11:20 there is an editing mistake dude, you put in two different cuts of the same line

Robin keeps getting done dirty in live action movies

Robin is an orpham just like Batman here which is why he was left the Batcave. Though, just because he is an orphan doesn't mean he should be left the keys to the Batcave. The Riddler was an orphan in The Batman and look what happened to him.

Batman beyond aka Batman being a coach. Was Batman more successful playing or coaching? He’s a Hall of Famer for both Careers Dick

He wasn't meant to be Robin, the fact his name was Robin was just an Easter egg.

I think it would have been funny (plus maybe a better story) if the Nolan movies were connected to man of steel and in bvs is was John Robin Blake who died in zod invasion in general a member of the bat family dying instead of a random Wayne employee makes a lot more sense but I also like to image it’s his first case as robin/nightwing/batman or whatever like nothing has happened since bane then aliens attack and he’s crushed by a building or something

He wouldn't even last a week as Batman. He barely was a decent cop 😅

I didnt notice till now but the weird angle and being unable to see her face, we see her say "You should use her full name" but the reason 'I like that name. Robin.' Feels so clunky is its ADR. Like they had a different answer and then added in that redundant "I like that name" after the fact. Which is why the weird way she says Robin feels slapped on.

@petermj1098

9 ай бұрын

Blake is a police officer like Dick Grayson, has a tragic backstory like Jason Todd and a smart detective like Tim Drake. He is a mix of those three. The entire point of Robin is that he is an orphan partner who shares Batman’s pain and that is what Blake is.

Wait what was that Val Kilmer clip? Mandela Effect?

I dont think he did trust Tahlia. It took hitting bottom and Alfred/Fox harrasing him to do so for it happen. Then she hit it and it was over lol

He wasn't Robin, he was to become Nightwing .. You see that suit

This is true of the whole movie. Sounds good on paper, then rushed and sloppily executed.

How would you feel if it was Terry instead does that make more sense as a story for me it kinda does just because he is older I thought to old to be a Robin could be a batman idk if that makes sense or not

I have "The Dark Knight Rises" and John Blake's blender of all the "male" versions of Robin is absent of the Jason Todd and Damion Wayne personalities. He only lacks the acrobatic and martial arts training that Dick Grayson ever had and this is just this particular movie alone.