Must watch - "Hush: A Liberating Conversation About Abortion and Women's Health" directed by Punam Kumar Gill. You can find it at: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eZ6O1MWNYbmTgdo.html And here's the science informing the film: hushfilm.com/science/ Other helpful resources in description. Feel free to check those out as well.

Great arguments, but I would like to hear how this man would respond to the objection “If we say a fetus or zygote or embryo is a human being, the what about our sperms and eggs? Would it be justified to masturbate? Is it not an act of killing?” I’ve asked Jimmy Akin this question before and he mentioned that it is because these aren’t organism rather their living things that aren’t organism (I think Nathan Norbis used a similar argument when debating Trent , but calls the embryo non-organism but a living thing) , but the early stages of pregnancy already have an organism therefore it is immoral to still have early trimester abortion. I agree completely with Akin, but would love your take. And for the sake of it because I just had some bonus questions in mind, what makes an organism and what makes a living things? What are the differences?

@IWasOnceAFetus

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I'm not the guy in the video so I can't speak for him. Regarding the morally relevant difference between sperm cells and prenatal humans: if that's what Jimmy Akin said, I agree with him. However, I wouldn't say the relevant difference between sperm cells & human zygotes/embyros is a difference between "living things" & "organisms." This is because "organism" itself is sometimes defined as "a living thing." The relevant difference for me is that sperm cells are mere bodily cells whose functions are subordinate to the larger organism, whereas human zygotes/embryos _are_ organisms themselves. Comparing organisms to sperm cells is like comparing yourself to your skin cells. We intuitively recognise that skin cells cannot be right-bearers. Hope that helps.

@probaskinnyman4960

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@@IWasOnceAFetus I think I’m close to getting it, but I still don’t, could u explain it to me like you would if I was a 15 yr old pro choice person who lack knowledge on what philosophy is?

@IWasOnceAFetus

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@@probaskinnyman4960 What I mean is this is a difference between _parts_ and _wholes._ An individual organism is a "whole" by itself. A sperm/skin/egg cell is a "part" of something else. Parts of you are not morally equal to you. Another easy way to understand this is that sperm/skin/egg cells are "living things" in the _adjective_ sense of the word. Whereas prenatal human organisms (zygotes/embryos/fetuses) are "living things" in the _noun_ sense of the word. I hope that's clearer. Not sure if I can make it simpler than this.

@probaskinnyman4960

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@@IWasOnceAFetus this is perfect thanks! I guess my 15 yr old alter ego is now gonna be pro life

@IWasOnceAFetus

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@@probaskinnyman4960 I'm glad to hear that! Thanks for stopping by.

Thanks for the insomnia medicine 👍

terrible pro-life arguments as usual

@IWasOnceAFetus

2 жыл бұрын

You can elaborate if you like.

@wayfaringmonk6847

2 жыл бұрын

A yes the "man" who slapped a Muslim round the face with a Qur’an. A violent Christian missionary to Muslims, who debates about pro-life. He pretends to be innocent, but obviously incites violence and division in subtle ways. You don't have to be a genius to know that, just a person with a functional brain.

@IWasOnceAFetus

2 жыл бұрын

@@wayfaringmonk6847 What the heck are you even talking about?

@wayfaringmonk6847

2 жыл бұрын

@@IWasOnceAFetus The man debating in this video from Speakers Corner

@IWasOnceAFetus

2 жыл бұрын

@@wayfaringmonk6847 great. you dislike him. So what? Address the arguments. Even if you dislike him, you still have to address the arguments. Anything less is intellectually dishonest.