Hey all ! I’m trying to build up my poetry collection so that I can return to the world of poetry with some solid recommendations. If there are any author’s in particular you want me to look into (genuinely, or to roast, although I do like to enjoy what I read) let me know !

@franciscocardemil5697

4 жыл бұрын

Hey! I'm not from the US (nor from an English-speaking country for that matter), but here's some recommendations of some books I have really liked (loved): Louise Glück - The wild iris / Averno Sharon Olds - The father / The dead and the living Ada Limón - Bright dead things Natasha Trethewey - Thrall / Monument Terrance Hayes - American sonnets for my past and future assassin Anne Carson - The beauty of the husband / Men in the off hours Ocean Vuong - Night sky with exit wounds Jericho Brown - The tradition Denise Levertov - Life in the forest Forrest Gander - Be with Jorie Graham - Sea change Hilda Morley - Cloudless at first (or whatever you can find, she deserved better) (Some other authors that I'm guessing you already know, but whose work I like: Lorine Niedecker, May Swenson, Elizabeth Bishop, Marianne Moore, Charles Wright, Adrienne Rich, Audre Lorde, WS Merwin, Muriel Rukeyser, Gwendolyn Brooks, Essex Hemphill, Amiri Baraka, Seamus Heaney, Robert Creeley, H.D., William Carios Williams, Robert Duncan). I would also recommend the New Yorker Poetry Podcast, which consists of conversations around particular poems with their authors. The episodes are really short and entertaining, and most of the guest-poets are very interesting. I'm sorry if this is just a plain list, or if it was too much. I just get excited when people talk about poetry in mainstream media (other than these self-help poetry books). I know a little more about Spanish-written poetry (which is my native language), particularly Latin American poetry, if you're interested in that. PS: I also love Robert Siken!

@gemini-media1117

3 жыл бұрын

Can you review my poetry? If you’re interested I’ll leave a link if you reply to this comment.

@Mel-no6nd

3 жыл бұрын

Some of my favorites are: Margaret Atwood - "Eating Fire" or "Two-Headed Poems" Sarah Kay - "No Matter Your Wreckage" Maggie Smith - "Good Bones" Ellen Bass - "Like a Beggar" or "The Human Line"

@sydlawson3181

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mel-no6nd picking a favorite Lovelace poem is like picking the deepest mountain.

@jf9229

3 жыл бұрын

Tracy K. Smith "Life on Mars"

"It feels like she just wrote down her thoughts and instead of examining them ... here they are"

I can’t stop laughing at the phrase “my favorite wizard boy” in the poem about getting her first period.. what a weird way to express your love for ThE bOi WhO LiVeD

@lalaland2107

3 жыл бұрын

How do people not find that cringey?

@robinmitchells

3 жыл бұрын

It’s r/agedlikemilk and r/cringetopia at the same time, how did she accomplish that?

@adinarosenstein9586

7 ай бұрын

There's nothing that makes me cringe more than Harry Potter adults.

Honestly, the part that really irks me is the fact that there are so many interesting contemporary poets working today who are struggling to sell books and survive. I just wish they would get more attention, because some of their poems that touch upon the same issues mentioned here are so nuanced and breathtaking.

@thevivliocubicularist4480

2 жыл бұрын

Can you mention some!

@MelissBergsmaPoetry

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree! I’ve been on a large poetry site for the last five years and honestly, there are some people on there (not a lot, but a good handful) that put many of the famous Poets to shame.

"that's not poetry that's a list, fuck off" I'm cackling

It’s sad because the first poetry book that I read completely was ‘milk and honey’ (I’m a teenager and was recently introduced to poetry) and after reading it I genuinely thought that it was good. However, as I began to learn more about poetry, I came to find that this was sadly not the case.

@StephJLWReads

4 жыл бұрын

I do appreciate what books like this do to get people into the genre. And if the book meant something to you, there no reason to discount it! :)

@skyhawk3736

4 жыл бұрын

Steve Gaborsky You should check out “12:12 Midnight” by Danielle Ever Rose, it’s a poetry collection I just read last month and I thought it was a very interesting and creative read.

@marga8732

4 жыл бұрын

Same, I’m an aspiring poet who got introduced to poetry through Lang Leav’s (expensive) books and now I’ve moved on to other authors, I thought it was good (it was, as a starting point) so I guess it’s not all bad.

Rupi Kaur's "poetry" is like when I had to write a paper in highschool and I couldn't streatch it to ten pages so I just double spaced and made stuff up.

@mitanshi.sheth2109

2 жыл бұрын

Could you pleaseee recommend me some nice poetry books?

@thelastgreatpoet3395

Жыл бұрын

Lol your comment is a meme

As an aspiring writer, I can't really understand this type of poetry, how does that shit is accepted.

@miacornell5078

4 жыл бұрын

Self-publishing tings

@drillgirl718

4 жыл бұрын

its accepted just like mumble rappers and 6ix9ine is accepted lol

@valardohaeris333

3 жыл бұрын

Is*

@ihatemickiegee

3 жыл бұрын

@@miacornell5078 nope, not anymore. have you seen the bookstore shelves the last few years? (my tone is anger at capitalism not you lol) if you look at all the instapoetry books now, they are all published by the same company. if i didn't value the quality of my work it would be so easy to make a killing.

@miacornell5078

3 жыл бұрын

@@ihatemickiegee it sucks because people with more money have a head start 😔 and actually good pieces get thrown under the rug

Your poem at the end. It was beautifully crafted. It made me uncomfortable, but it comforting somehow. The relationship between men and women is complex it’s hard to sort out what was taught to us and how we to figure it or try to figure it out. Holy shit you need a separate video for your writing. I’m excited for when you get to publish your work.

@StephJLWReads

3 жыл бұрын

omg thank you !!!

"I haven't even started and I'm already mad" just speaks to my soul 😂

“Am I the problem?” -no, society is

I had soooo many problems with this book as a writer as well. Also love the discussion of Richard Siken's poetry, you should definitely do a video talking about poetry books you've read ♡♡

@kellykittyantlers9140

4 жыл бұрын

Yes yes Yes! Please review more! :D

Pain trigger prose statements to get the attention and then if the person don't like the poem they feel guilty, or they feel ashamed or feel like they must like it cause of its subject matter. This is the mind games and arm twisting efforts her work and many others like Rupi Kaur, is doing to the reader.

@StephJLWReads

4 жыл бұрын

I know !!! This type of “poetry” just rubs me such the wrong way.

@louisa4764

4 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY

@ihatemickiegee

3 жыл бұрын

and then we get people like gabbie hanna trying to convince impressionable fans that critics of work about trauma are criticizing the writer FOR their trauma + for making their art based in it. that is so manipulative! plenty of those of us criticizing are also survivors of trauma. we're criticizing the writing as alleged 'poetry', not the content FFS

I was worried you were going to just make fun of her book the entire time but you gave really helpful criticism. I'm working on a verse book so this also helps me

I can't stress enough how much this video spoke to me hahaha. You were funny, entertaining and spoke TRUTH. This shit just isn't poetry. Also loved your poem at the end!

@StephJLWReads

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you ! :)

Although menstruation could of course be triggering for some people, the reality is that it is an overly-stigmatised topic that I would’ve thought a feminist like Lovelace would be wanting to destigmatise, not make it into a content warning as if it’s as horrific as suicide, domestic violence, child abuse etc. I’m actually kind of disgusted that she’d consider menstruation such a ‘sensitive’ topic that she had to include it there.

@StephJLWReads

4 жыл бұрын

i completely agree. i just think it added to her content earnings being performative “and maybe more” and unhelpful.

@punkrawkmom

3 жыл бұрын

I could be wrong but it think the period warning is for trans women. I agree about periods being too stigmatized though.

@larissanascimento8963

2 жыл бұрын

@@punkrawkmom Also trans men.

“And possibly more🥰” I died😭

these books are all just huge wastes of paper

@ihatemickiegee

3 жыл бұрын

all i think about is the amount of time the printing press spends letting this 'poetry' see the light of day. the least they could do is make it a mini book and save some damn paper

The poem you ended with is soo beautiful

"this feels like the seventh grade" about sums it up

I was really excited to read milk and honey. I was really disappointed. Because, well it seemed lazy. The great poems take work and effort. but they felt like quotes. it was just bad.

@StephJLWReads

4 жыл бұрын

I feel the exact same.

The poem u made at the end crying and shaking it made me feel a lot 😭

oh my god, the poem you wrote at the very end was so beautiful. please write a book thanks!!

Dear god, your anger is on the same wavelength as mine. I enjoyed this whole thing so much :00

Thank you for finally attempting to tell the people what poetry is 🙌🏾🙌🏾 it's like no one knows what it is anymore

You are freaking hilarious! Insightful and raw. I appreciate the passion you have when it comes to literature. I just binge-watched your vids and listening to you makes my quarantine anxieties at bay. Keep doing what you do! lots of love!

@StephJLWReads

3 жыл бұрын

thank you !! ❤️

Your poem is incredibly beautiful. I can't even describe how I felt when I heard it.

@StephJLWReads

4 жыл бұрын

omg thank you !!

This is me reading milk and honey. Agree 100%

i love this so much. please release more vids like it.I also really enjoyed your poem at the end

@StephJLWReads

4 жыл бұрын

thank you so much! dw, i’ve got future ideas :)

@salsanchezi.c.1470

4 жыл бұрын

@@StephJLWReads You should check out Franz Antu a Mexican American poet he actually rhymes. Pretty good kzread.info/dash/bejne/kWpoqcppfZPVgKg.html

Your poem at the end was really good!

Spontaneous overflow of emotions, collected immediately

This is great! My thoughts exactly when I read this book. Please, please, please do videos for the other two! If anything, they’re even worse!

You gotta send this writer an invoice for your editorial services. I loved this video.

It would be better if it was advertised as one of those books where it's just nice things you buy for your grandma or something. Rupi Kaur has a lot of affirmation quotes and that would be fine to sell like that. The other things are fine too, like it should've just been advertised as something else other than poetry.

@ashitakedia5814

Жыл бұрын

I always say that and ppl come shouting at me as if I said something very wrong. All these poems feel like ‘thoughts’, and I just can’t seem to find a better word for it. It certainly doesn’t feel like poetry.

@lalaland2107

Жыл бұрын

@@ashitakedia5814 omg, yes “ thoughts “ 😭

Me personally, I would be glad to see "racism" in TW: as I have been targeted for racial slurs etc..many times, and still, the topic of racism itself can trigger those trauma memories. As for poetry review, no, tI wouldn't class those as poetry - they are more like statements.

Please review more! Love this! You've got a natural talent for being on camera =^_^=

@StephJLWReads

4 жыл бұрын

thank you so much :)

Fill in the blank; Poetry is anything you want it to be Is just her trying to justify this book.

I love the ideas and the potential it had, it just wasn’t executed properly, but I appreciate how it’s getting a lot of people who don’t normally read to start reading.

Thank you for posting this, before I spent money on her books

This video is so chaotic. 12/10.

I loved the review and your straight-forward honesty! Keep speaking your truth ty👍

Till we become whispers have your say Form the words and have your way There is no map for the present The future is a good reference Reach out to her if you desire Not every king is a sire Sunsets will be plenty But these moments will not Till we become whispers have your day

Not you pulling out a poem of your own that made me shiver and then ending it with "but I don't know" girl

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

A poem that uses shape really well is Triptych by Diana Nguyen.

Lol I learned a lot from you and now I’m held to high expectations. 😉

While the poetry may be mediocre, the messages and stories behind them can inspire true recovery

way late to this but i think the trigger warning for menstruation is for transmen or something (i am a transman), that being said, i dont like trigger warnings for 90% of things. it doesnt help me grow as a person, just more sensitive and avoidant of trauma and things.

I bought this book as a gift for a friend- she hated it. I should've read it first.

i cracked up at the sped-up reading

I read this when I was 11, at the time I was new to the poetry thing and even I thought to myself “this is trash”

I think menstruation really is a valid tw for people who don’t want to be reminded they had them, it also ties into the SA theme like people who don’t want to remember "being an adult" in that moment

I never knew that it was possible to get upset about a poetry book.

I'm old enough to remember when we had this sort of problem with the poetry of Rod McKuen.

@toddjacksonpoetry

4 жыл бұрын

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@TheWolfeDen

11 ай бұрын

This is such a delayed response to an old comment on an old video but I just went down a Rod McKuen rabbithole because of this comment and it was so enlightening. (It also led me to a Rupi Kaur interview which led me to dislike her even more...)

Everyone who watches your video should submit a quick Lovelace-esque ‘poem’ - we could go for the Goodreads Poetry Award 2020..!

hey, i was on your twitter and saw that you’re from halifax! my friend and i just discovered your channel today and fell in love. it would be so cool if we could meet up one day!!

please do some more poetry book reviews. really enjoyed them 👍🙃

Watched this immediately after reading, and oh my gosh we had the SAME reactions, lmao. Most of the poems you chose to read aloud that made you laugh/cringe were the same ones I'd just read off to my partner sitting next to me. I yelled out "THIS SHOULD JUST BE PROSE!!" more than a few times. 😂 Good to know I wasn't just being bitter.

It's actually numbers after 10 that are numerated rather than written as words

Subscribing because of this video lol also, you kinda look like Cher from clueless!!

I much prefer the energy in her poems than in this video!!!

This is banal tripe, its not poetry and I will never refer to is as such. Its more brain farts of their inner monologue or stream of conciseness. There is no poetic craft behind this stuff at all. 'A good poem can freeze experience even as it releases and enlarges it, the words utterly intact ramifying, like a bell that troubles the air long after its sound has stopped'. - Christian Wiman.

@TimGreig

Жыл бұрын

Great quote

You were speaking of line breaks, when I write I regularly use enjambment and the comma

You should try Nikita Gill's poetry it's beautiful. Her work got me into poetry and writing some of it myself!

Never heard of richard siken until now but wow! Now i have to go find that book.

your poem is rlly good !!! do you post your original work elsewhere? :)

@StephJLWReads

3 жыл бұрын

as of now i don’t ! i plan on setting something up eventually, but nothing super soon :)

Everything Is A Poem And Nothing Is A Poem End Of

i haven’t laughed so much at something that wasn’t meant to be funny in a long time

(22:03) "am i too bitter?" - that was me reading that book On the other note, I didn't hear any audio where the phone recordings were playing..

@StephJLWReads

3 жыл бұрын

hmm, the phone audio recordings are a lot quieter than the regular parts. i was unprepared to film when i filmed this video so the phone clips were an unfortunate compromise

Umm - can I have *your* poetry collection, please? That was SO MUCH better! I would 100% read it. (For the record. :])

hi, i just started reading poetry and i was just wondering if anyone had any good recommendations? any help is appreciated, i don’t want to feed into bad stuff ^_^

can you please recommend some good poems or poets?

The Jayden Smith of poets

what are great poetry books?

The one thing I see a lot with books like milk and honey is they are more shower thoughts than poetry and I think a good poem is where you use alot of imagery so where even with people who have never read poetry and still enjoy it and the poem actually be considered poetry often times people like these books because they are easy to understand, read no brain game and that's helpfull in many cases but they are often times shower thoughts I think a good poem for people who haven't read poetry before is imagery based poems that get straight to the point but are good

Lol I couldn’t stand her poetry either 😅 esp the second book...

Tbh I combine red and Colors all the time, is it a universal thing?

@StephJLWReads

4 жыл бұрын

the songs have similar vibes i will say

insta-suscribe, great video!

This whole book is just noise.

Triggered by the trigger warning, that's gold. As was your poem.. much development in 14 minutes. You should've ghost wrote the whole damn thing. I enjoyed the critique, really brings the slam to the poetry. I can't relate to these new poets they lack teeth. Your video had plenty of bite though.

I would love it if you reviewed my poetry book Perpetually Eating Multicolored Sprinkles : )

You need more subs

@StephJLWReads

3 жыл бұрын

aw thank you !!

New sub... And I love IASIP, too... This stuff is not poetry. It's watered-down greeting-card philosophy strained through a subliterate screen scribbler.

I think part of the “arbitrary” form of this writing style is that these writers, to break into the club, are using social media platforms to share their work and gain recognition initially. That format itself is very space limited, necessitating condensed writing, and the “random” line breaks help to visually flag to potential consumers that if they are a poetry fan they might like to stop and sit with this post - otherwise poetry fans could easily overlook a post they could actually enjoy. I think a lot of this poetry tends actually to be prose poetry with line breaks for marketing. Publishers then probably want the work to be printed in the Instagram format because that’s the layout that readers are now expecting. Okay, so why are they using Instagram? Isn’t that trashy, distasteful? Maybe, but these are often people who didn’t necessarily have the opportunity to major in literature at college, because of pressure to focus on vocational subjects, or because of economic disenfranchisement due to being from immigrant families, mental health experiences etc. Kind of like the writing equivalent of outsider artists. I’m not saying that Lovelace or Kaur are specifically good writers, but some of these people actually are. It might be unpopular to say, but there is an elitist exclusion of these voices. Okay, that’s my rant for the day.

What is the name of your intro song? It's lovely!

@StephJLWReads

3 жыл бұрын

omg it took my a second to figure out what you were asking about, the music i use in this is the intro music from the tv show “it’s always sunny in Philadelphia” i don’t know the actual name :)

@lalaland2107

3 жыл бұрын

@@StephJLWReads thank you! 💕

With a marketing campaign and budget the new instapoets have anyone can sell books. Literally zero talent trendy nightstand decorations.

I am very much late but I like you girl

Also can someone tell me why do these ‘poets’ never use punctuation?! Like if you want the reader to read the whole as one sing sentence with no breaks then write it as a single sentence. Don’t give line breaks just to make it seem like poetry.

whatever pays the bills

I agree with what you're saying about the trigger warning holy shit that 'warning" was dumb as fuck lolol

Trigger warning for racism? I just read the fucking book and I must have missed something pretty big.

DEAD 🤣

that's just a waste of paperrrrr haha

I just found you and you are too funny. subcribeeeeee

art is art

I'm pretty sure the child eater is a reference to the demonisation of pro choice women

So it sounds like it's a passing grade for you, I think.

Can you send me your info so I can send you my book to review? I promise its better than this lol!! @authorsarasutton

all this stuff sound like a young person who is just starting to write.

So a trigger warning isn't a literary device?

@StephJLWReads

3 жыл бұрын

nah, and in this book they don’t even serve the purpose they’re supposed to lmaoo

@NothingHumanisAlientoMe

3 жыл бұрын

@@StephJLWReads You could argue she is just channeling the zeitgeist.