The Popular, Accurate and Efficient 308 Winchester

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GunBlue visits the popular .308 Winchester, examines its usefulness, its praises, and its limitations, and relives its embattled early history as it soon becomes 65 years old. The .308 was not always as popular or desired as it is now! After watching this video, you'll know if the .308 Winchester is for you!

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  • @marklomax7452
    @marklomax745211 ай бұрын

    No screaming. No pedantic condescension, no cursing, no gun-magazine baloney to serve advertisers' new products. Just the straight info we all need to know.

  • @003rog
    @003rog7 жыл бұрын

    A beer, a cigar, and a great .308 presentation....what's not to love? This guy is the real deal.

  • @mikelust9855

    @mikelust9855

    2 жыл бұрын

    You forgot the dog a perfect picture

  • @whippy107
    @whippy1075 жыл бұрын

    I never got to know either of my grandfathers...thanks for telling me grandpa stuff! :-D

  • @Waffle_cones

    @Waffle_cones

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, what he said...

  • @jonstanhope5453

    @jonstanhope5453

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same here!

  • @WheelsandLevers
    @WheelsandLevers7 жыл бұрын

    This is the best detailed description of the .308 I've ever seen. Add in the cigar, beer and dog and it's the coolest too. Study this video and you can forget all the stuff from the young pups out there who think they're it. They're not. GunBlue is.

  • @OpenGL4ever

    @OpenGL4ever

    4 жыл бұрын

    Smoking is uncool. Think of the weak smokers that have to cough when they try to go up the stairs and have to break in the middle of the stairs to get some air.

  • @nickrobinson9503

    @nickrobinson9503

    4 жыл бұрын

    OpenGL4ever tell that to Arnold

  • @SilverWolfM200LDH

    @SilverWolfM200LDH

    4 жыл бұрын

    I completely agree, listening to him is like listening to my late father or great uncle. My dad used to hunt whitetail in Muskoka in northern Ontario Canada where his uncle had a cabin. Unless he was in the shotgun area, he always used his Winchester Model 88 in 308 and he loved Nosler's Partition bullets. He always told me then opened like a bandanna and had a heavy, solid base to push it through.

  • @timbucker

    @timbucker

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@OpenGL4ever Cigars are not inhaled like cigarettes so climbing the stairs shouldn't be a problem.

  • @aaronwilcox6417

    @aaronwilcox6417

    3 жыл бұрын

    Smoking cigars is discusting and stinks.

  • @Antoninorosetta
    @Antoninorosetta5 жыл бұрын

    When the M-14 got popular, I bought a .308 Browning A-bolt! I figured if it was good enough for the military, it should be good enough for deer hunting. Right out of the box, I was getting 1 MOA at 100 yds. I've had the gun for a number of years and I've never had to shoot a deer twice. It was, and still is the most accurate rifle I've ever owned. Every year, I go to the range, and pop three rounds at 100 yds, and I have never had to re- sight it in!! I love that little rifle and will never part with it. Every deer I shot with it never needed a second shot. I'm going on 80 in two more months, and when my hunting days are over, I'm passing it on to my son!!!! Browning makes great guns, but most people that own one, know that!!! I'm really sold on the .308.

  • @bigron26048
    @bigron260486 жыл бұрын

    I think this guy is so cool!! He got his cigar, his beer and his dog while talking about the .308...real down to earth guy!

  • @rubeclayton8233

    @rubeclayton8233

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes... And, His Dog Is Interested In The Birds In The Background... Bobwhites And Quails...

  • @mitchellcrane9809
    @mitchellcrane98093 жыл бұрын

    A old guy with a beer and cigar passing good usable knowledge. We need a lot more of this in this day and age.

  • @playerzero2236
    @playerzero22364 жыл бұрын

    I love the .308, its become one of the most versatile high powered rifle cartridges of its time. It has plenty of power and works in tons of weapon systems.

  • @39Thorns
    @39Thorns8 жыл бұрын

    All right-thinking people will subscribe to this channel. A guy of his age, in his garage with a beer and a stogie, is the most appropriate source of knowledge for real Americans. I've pulled up a chair next to my grandpa in such a scenario many, many times.

  • @highplainsdrifter9631

    @highplainsdrifter9631

    7 жыл бұрын

    39Thorns exactly what I was thinking. this is the essence of old school America. and I love it.

  • @daltonwade9441

    @daltonwade9441

    6 жыл бұрын

    39Thorns Amen

  • @newerest1

    @newerest1

    4 жыл бұрын

    I never got to meet either of my grandfathers and can only hope to be that man to my future grandchildren one day

  • @justastudentoflife2510

    @justastudentoflife2510

    3 жыл бұрын

    And speaking straight off the cuff, no notes, just experience and knowledge straight from memory. The research was done yrs ago

  • @Moonrunner58

    @Moonrunner58

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not only Americans. This Brit come Kiwi finds him a rock of uncommon sense and greatly values his knowledge. Love the fact that GB imparts wisdom rather than just another sales pitch / fashion declaration.

  • @TheBanjoFlyBoy
    @TheBanjoFlyBoy5 жыл бұрын

    Mr. GunBlue I'm a dog man (brittanys), and Bennie tells me everything I need to know about you! As a pilot during Vietnam, I think we would get along. As a wingshooter, I enjoy your rifle videos! Thanks!!

  • @joiseystud
    @joiseystud8 жыл бұрын

    Would love to smoke a stogie and talk guns with this guy. +1 sub

  • @davidmuir7711

    @davidmuir7711

    6 жыл бұрын

    JSquaredZ wouldn't it be swell to sit down with him & Hicock 45 & just listen?

  • @deaconjones6784

    @deaconjones6784

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@davidmuir7711 no need for hickock 45 when talking rifles. This guy is it.

  • @shanerhodes925

    @shanerhodes925

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yea I would amagine you'll be therr much longer than one stogie

  • @John-mf6ky

    @John-mf6ky

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same, I don't even smoke cigars either haha.

  • @matzrott92
    @matzrott923 жыл бұрын

    I love your videos. I inherited my fathers reloading things and though he is still alive Parkinson has taken over allot of his memory. Watching your videos has given me the opportunity to be able to remind my dad about what he is telling me and keep him on track with what we are talking about. Thank you so much

  • @jamesmooney5348
    @jamesmooney5348 Жыл бұрын

    When I was young I made of the 308. Now I have 2 and love them. Killed a 500lb cow elk at 483 yards with a Savage Long Range hunter. The load was factory Hornady 178 gr eldx at (around) 2600 fps. Rifle shoots 3/4 inch groups (24" barrel). Bullet hit perfect placement off of a solid bipod rest. It took two wobbly steps and fell. Bullet was still around 2000 fsp and had around 1800 ft lbs which is plenty for that cal, bullet weight & bullet design for that weight of game. Used a fixed 10 power scope that has a MOA reticle. Using Hornady shooting app gave me the needed moa. I had zero wind. The bullet went through both shoulders and jellied out everything in between them. What was left of the bullet was just a small peice of lead and parts of its jacket against the off side hide. Didn't ruin that much meat, but some. But with other kills, the eldx has ruin some meat. More then I'd like. It has exploded to some degree, causing small peices of lead to scatter through the body. But no game has ever gotten away. I have added a copper desiged bullet into the mix. Stopping the satellite lead projectiles scattering through the meat. I enjoyed your pod cast! Thanks.

  • @MrJasonBoudreaux
    @MrJasonBoudreaux8 жыл бұрын

    I was a Marine. We made many shots past 500-600 yards with .308. Some more experienced snipers easily engaged and hit targets at 1000yrds. or more. The difference is that at that ( range/velosity/energy) being off 6-8"o and you just completely missed vitals (gut shot) on an animal. Gave it a horrible/Painful death and you will probably never find it. Now being 6-8" off on a human target at those ranges will still get the job done, usually. Hit a deer in the gut, he will run for miles. Hit a man in the gut, he's done, at any range. Thats why you don't hunt long range with a .308 just because it's what the military used. Great Job on the vids as usual. I like the history lessons.

  • @GunBlue490

    @GunBlue490

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Jason Boudreaux Precisely correct. You understand the intrinsic difference between inflicting battle casualties to take him off the day roster and killing game, which are so vastly apart from the other that no direct comparisons can be uttered. Another writer has asked me a question that pertains to this issue, and his apparent misunderstanding of the difference in roles is quite unfortunately common these days. Such misinterpretations were not made by people of my dad's generation, but it was not taken up and passed along by my flower child generation. The big sucking sound you hear is a vacuum created by my peers. I think my next video will attempt to place each in their appropriate context. Thank you for your service. Semper Fi Marine!

  • @kevinbackoutdoors

    @kevinbackoutdoors

    6 жыл бұрын

    Michael Marrone I have the ruger American in .270. Great rifle. Highly recommend. Mine is topped with a Leupold VX-2 Scope.

  • @grayman7208

    @grayman7208

    5 жыл бұрын

    "Thats why you don't hunt long range with a .308 just because it's what the military used." that applies to all cartridges.

  • @jjsemperfi

    @jjsemperfi

    5 жыл бұрын

    gray man Agreed. People confuse military long range rounds with hunting rounds. Two different purposes and demands.

  • @AustrianJager

    @AustrianJager

    5 жыл бұрын

    I agree totaly!

  • @ButchA61
    @ButchA617 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video.... I have a Savage .308 rifle and will never get rid of it. The thing is a tack driver out to 150 yards (where I have it zero'd out at). GunBlue490... Sir, you remind me of one of my dad's buddies from back in the day! Firearm knowledge, cigars, a beer, and the good ol' family dog. I subscribed to your video channel, and will learn a lot from you!

  • @jeanmorin3247
    @jeanmorin32473 жыл бұрын

    I do not know how many times I have seen this video. I love my .308 Ruger No. 1, and I delight hearing this man talking about that cartridge. We in Canada had the 7.62mm/.308 it in our military Fabrique Nationale Light Automatic Rifle (LAR), and it was a very good match. Regular soldiers preferred the 7.62 to the 5.56, for the reasons being given here: manageable recoil; short action, reliability and bullet size. -- Ouf, that cigar and beer are appetizing. Long Life, GunBlue!

  • @dirkpittthegreat4559
    @dirkpittthegreat45594 жыл бұрын

    Got my 300-savage in 1968 from a gunnery sgt. Right before I went to Vnam.. Used it until I retired it 10 years ago...was best gun I ever had. Moved to the M1A...good gun...but miss my 300-savage

  • @hokep61

    @hokep61

    3 жыл бұрын

    First deer I ever took was with my Dad's 300 Savage. Still have the Savage along with my Remington PSS .308. Love them both.

  • @dirkpittthegreat4559

    @dirkpittthegreat4559

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hokep61 we both probably have some way cool stories about our 300 Savage. I dust it off (not literally) every now and then and it takes ME to the range 😆...100's of fine memories as you've with yours.

  • @karlpreston5124
    @karlpreston51247 жыл бұрын

    This is possibly the most amazing video that I have ever seen. I hunt with the 308 . I have shot several deer within a hundred yards and they all dropped on the spot. Thank you so much for this video.

  • @trevormcneil1349
    @trevormcneil13497 жыл бұрын

    I love your cartridge discussion videos. Keep them coming please.

  • @rcacase
    @rcacase8 жыл бұрын

    Ive watched several of your videos. My friend you are a wealth of information and I applaud you. But this may be my favorite. Not because of the subject matter, but because of the beer, the cigar and that beautiful dog! Please continue to share your knowledge.

  • @kriserickson2256
    @kriserickson22562 ай бұрын

    I would love to sit and have a beer with this beauty and just listen to him talk and ask questions. What a wealth of knowledge that shouldn't just be lost.

  • @rickmansberger4136
    @rickmansberger41367 жыл бұрын

    Dear Gunblue, I have enjoyed your videos and re-watched them, mostly because of you and your presentation style. I think that is remarkable and a sure tell of your vast knowledge and experience in ballistics and weapons that you can sit there and visit us, your video family, and just talk in a straight forward fireside manner with dead on fact and history. It is a pure pleasure to learn from you and I continue to be thankful that you are of the mindset that sharing your knowledge is your current calling. Sir, you are a true American original and a valuable asset to us, your shooting community that hangs on your every word. God bless you and be safe. Hi to Benny, Sincerely and warmest regards, Rick Mansberger

  • @ts440s
    @ts440s7 жыл бұрын

    The setting was so relaxing I didn't hear much. He reminds me of my gramps a compliment for sure. This is a picture of personality but I still will debate a topic at times just to keep it alive. Good info.

  • @cedarhillkennels3252
    @cedarhillkennels32527 жыл бұрын

    cigar, beer, and a discusion of firearms from an elder with knowledge. my hats off to you sir

  • @captsam54
    @captsam546 жыл бұрын

    Nice chat for a sunday afternoon.. Love my 308's...

  • @elomcmillan826
    @elomcmillan826 Жыл бұрын

    His calm casual demeanour and superlative knowledge is a real pleasure to experience. The dog, cigar and beer are the real down home finishing touch.

  • @zombiewanderer
    @zombiewanderer8 жыл бұрын

    Glad your making more videos, you changed the way I clean my guns, and I continue to learn from you.

  • @vigidriver6281
    @vigidriver62817 жыл бұрын

    The .308 Winchester cartridge and it's Military Cousin, the 7.62x51 NATO are two of my favorite close range Hunting rounds.

  • @rickmansberger4136
    @rickmansberger41365 жыл бұрын

    Hello Sir, Happy New Year to you and your family. Added a .308 to my Winchester and lever action collection, so it was a two for one win. The rifle is 1963 Model 88 chambered in .308. Clean gun and after listening to you video on .308, I feel it is a good position. Some say the Model 88 is one of the last great Winchester lever action rifles. It joins 6 other Winchester lever actions that now have their own secure storage safe. Two Model 94s somehow followed me home over the holidays, 1937 Carbine and 1921 Rifle. Thank you for your teachings on the .308. This one of my favorite videos, you with a cold beverage, a great cigar and Benny looking so handsome. We continue to pray that Benny 's health is stable. Best to you and your family for the up coming year. Best regards, Rick Mansberger

  • @phillhuddleston9445
    @phillhuddleston94454 жыл бұрын

    I'm cheap enough that the powder savings of the .308 vs 30.06 is enough to win me over. The 30.06 takes a lot more power to gain a slight bit of velocity and I live in hill country so getting a bit extra distance is not a factor for me.

  • @ivarara
    @ivarara6 жыл бұрын

    I simply love the GunBlue lectures, thanks and best greetings to Benny ;)

  • @tecate9408
    @tecate94084 жыл бұрын

    Love my Remington 700 in .308 Win. I appreciate the knowledge you presented very much, Well done sir!

  • @Gideom007
    @Gideom0075 жыл бұрын

    You have the best educational gun channel on youtube. Thank you for your efforts sir.

  • @phillipjohnson7583
    @phillipjohnson75833 жыл бұрын

    It is simply a joy to watch and listen to your lessons. I leave a better person than when I came. Thank you kindly.

  • @geoffreyshaw4689
    @geoffreyshaw46898 жыл бұрын

    This is like going back to school; wunderbar! A most blessed Easter to you GunBlue!

  • @hayneshuntingcom
    @hayneshuntingcom4 жыл бұрын

    love your videos man No short sound bites, just logic and experience talking

  • @John-mf6ky
    @John-mf6ky4 жыл бұрын

    I love the laid back feel of these videos, I wish I found this channel sooner. I can't help but think about my Grandfather teaching me to shoot when I was young. Granted, he never really got back into firearms/hunting after Vietnam, but he knew the importance of teaching me.

  • @TheAtlantaMafia
    @TheAtlantaMafia7 жыл бұрын

    This is a good video - but having the dog (Benny) in it makes it just perfect!

  • @warrenkidney6502
    @warrenkidney65028 жыл бұрын

    That help out a lot thank you very much. Looking forward to more of your videos

  • @lavida57
    @lavida573 жыл бұрын

    Always great to rewatch these viedos. Never never stop learning. Thank yoi

  • @byrdland3576
    @byrdland35768 жыл бұрын

    I have a Browning A Bolt II Medallion .308. After breaking in the barrel, it seems to like Hornady 165 grain BTSP. The last three rounds at 100 yards were touching. I love .308!

  • @randyschaff8939

    @randyschaff8939

    4 жыл бұрын

    byrdland357 Rem. Corelokt 165gr. flatbase. Great bullet use it on everything. We use to buy it in bulk 500 at a time🇨🇦🤠

  • @Prairie7777
    @Prairie77773 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, as usual, for your conveyance of knowledge that is an earmark of your videos. I've followed you for quite some time and really appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge across a large scope of issues. Keep up your great work. It's really appreciated. (and tell "Benny" I said hi!)

  • @asullivan50i
    @asullivan50i6 жыл бұрын

    Love listening to this guy, wish I was having a single malt and smoke with ya. The amount of unscripted knowledge this man can throw out is absolutely amazing. Thanks and God bless sir!

  • @GunBlue490

    @GunBlue490

    6 жыл бұрын

    asullivan50i Now you have my mouth watering for a Scotch.

  • @billnwa2250
    @billnwa22506 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge, it was very enjoyable listen.

  • @mountainsstreams2133
    @mountainsstreams21333 жыл бұрын

    Amazing talk on the 308 Winchester. Thank you Sir.

  • @ColtonWilson3000
    @ColtonWilson30007 жыл бұрын

    I like 308. It's my standard hunting rifle. Most of my shots up here are 150 yards or less. Killed a lot of moose and Blackbear with 165 grain nosler partition or accubond or even Hornady btsp. I have taken game out to 300 yards with it, but usually if I decide to go long I use my 270 or 300 RUM. But I think my 308's are my favourite rifles as they tend to be shorter and a more handy gun to carry. Great video, thanks a lot for it. It was very informative.

  • @kirbylane9451
    @kirbylane94516 жыл бұрын

    You've helped me decide whether I wanted 308 or 30.06. Beautiful brittany, mine passed a few years ago and haven't had the heart to replace her yet.

  • @Gangster88232
    @Gangster882327 жыл бұрын

    public discussion between this man and hickok45 i would bring a lot of beer, food and sleeping bag.

  • @lukereynolds9907

    @lukereynolds9907

    5 жыл бұрын

    Gangster88232 don’t get me wrong I love Hickok also but this man runs rings around him when it is all said and done

  • @JackHill45

    @JackHill45

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tennessee and New Hampshire. The battle of the accents!

  • @jasonbloho8015

    @jasonbloho8015

    5 жыл бұрын

    luke reynolds no comparison lmao.

  • @bobsmith-ru7xp

    @bobsmith-ru7xp

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JackHill45 I normally find yankee accents annoying but GunBlue's is really pleasing. Perhaps because it's coming from such a well informed man.

  • @semiauto3148

    @semiauto3148

    4 жыл бұрын

    They both have their +’s. Gunblue490 has the beer and cigar,,, but Hickok has a bad ass range to,shoot at...both very smart and I would love to shoot with either one ! Props to both

  • @soulesailor
    @soulesailor6 жыл бұрын

    Excellent videos! Thank you for all your in depth knowledge sharing. New subscriber!

  • @fulmerjw
    @fulmerjw5 жыл бұрын

    Sir, I learn so much from you. Thank you for this video, as well as all the others. You've gained another subscriber. 🤝

  • @GunBlue490

    @GunBlue490

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, and God bless.

  • @jayboston9620
    @jayboston96208 жыл бұрын

    Great Vid's... Thanks for the knowledge

  • @C4Carriger
    @C4Carriger5 жыл бұрын

    Great video, I can listen to this gentleman talk about firearms all day. Thanks take care

  • @gearhead6424
    @gearhead64243 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate the older guys sharing their knowledge. 👍

  • @lancekrych3206
    @lancekrych32063 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos, even the old ones!

  • @tpowell453
    @tpowell4537 жыл бұрын

    This is a GREAT video. And series. Thank you GunBlue490 for taking the time to talk to us. It's wonderful to listen to your videos! I truly enjoyed this.

  • @bobkmac
    @bobkmac4 жыл бұрын

    It's like sitting around the garage listening to dad. Thank you sir.

  • @markknivila8383
    @markknivila83834 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing the history of the .308 Winchester with us. It was also nice that you had your Brittany Spaniel, Benny, with you! Take care of yourself and Benny!

  • @davejones3923
    @davejones39232 жыл бұрын

    Great video Sir ! Just watched with my Beagle and am really glad I chose my new Browning xbolt hunter in 308 very nice rifle and very accurate. How nice it would be to meet you in person and listen and learn !! Thank you for your efforts looking forward to more video’s . Nice dog you have there

  • @Blues-man.
    @Blues-man.8 жыл бұрын

    Interesting, Happy Easter, and God Bless !

  • @diomedes39
    @diomedes397 жыл бұрын

    This video was fantastic!

  • @friendlyfam5746
    @friendlyfam57464 жыл бұрын

    Listening to your knowledge of this ammunition is highly enjoyable.

  • @robertciaschini7625
    @robertciaschini76254 жыл бұрын

    This is like a "fireside" chat from long ago. You sir, have a new Subscriber.

  • @russelder9743
    @russelder97438 жыл бұрын

    As usual ---a pleasure to listen and learn. You could write a heck of an interesting book.Happy Easter my friend

  • @GunBlue490

    @GunBlue490

    8 жыл бұрын

    +russ elder Thank you and Happy Easter, my friend.

  • @jerrylittle8922
    @jerrylittle89226 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting . Fine dog you have there Sir. Thank you for sound advice on the 308.

  • @woofielove1970
    @woofielove19703 жыл бұрын

    I could sit there and listen to this guys knowledge and experience for hours on end, this dude is one cool cat, sucking back some Suds, puffing on a cigar, and imparting firearms and caliber knowledge. Awesome.

  • @chaseb3890
    @chaseb38904 жыл бұрын

    Great talk! Love this

  • @edwardjames1369
    @edwardjames13696 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate you videos. Thank you.

  • @user-me4od1qe6r
    @user-me4od1qe6r Жыл бұрын

    Love this guy! A good beer and a cigar, nothing better 😁 Thanks for the lesson..!

  • @davidhayes7596
    @davidhayes75962 жыл бұрын

    Down here in Georgia the .308 is respected by many a hunter, farmer or swamp rat. Great round. I just read where some hunter/handloader took a buck at 800 and some odd yards. I 'm kind of under the impression that it was a custom rifle. He said he used a 200 grain bullet. I would never attempt that but wow! It's an inherently accurate round and lends itself to even trajectory. Great round.

  • @donb.1426
    @donb.14263 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video!

  • @franknapolitano9144
    @franknapolitano91448 жыл бұрын

    I enjoy your videos very much !

  • @EvilWhiteGuy7.62
    @EvilWhiteGuy7.623 жыл бұрын

    I love the 308/7.62nato. It's my favorite all around cartridge. Mostly because I love cold war era battle rifles and newer versions of battle rifles....and I love surplus ammo, for the longest time I never reloaded... but I've been doing it almost a year now. Wish I found this channel sooner

  • @lanes8237
    @lanes82373 жыл бұрын

    This guy reminds me of so many of the great older guys from my youth. I could listen to him all day.

  • @carlsharp2770
    @carlsharp27705 жыл бұрын

    Just would like to say . Your worth listening too. I think I just learnt a lot from you

  • @forthehellofit5544
    @forthehellofit55442 жыл бұрын

    So true my grandfather and uncles are all very attached to the 30-06 and growing up hearing how great it is.

  • @bobparvin9773
    @bobparvin97732 жыл бұрын

    I've got 2 308 rifles and I reload my own. These guns are very accurate and I don't have to worry about any deer running off very far at all. I love my Ruger American, it's not too heavy, shoots my loads way under an inch. my other one is a Howa model 1500 cerakoted heavy 24 in. Barrel, camo stock and it's a track driver. I will use it for long shots out to 500 Meters if the wind ain't blowing.

  • @clockworkbike
    @clockworkbike4 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful video, thanks.

  • @csalinas7878
    @csalinas78784 жыл бұрын

    I just bought a 308 tc compass thank you for all the insight! This is my first rifle I can’t wait to go hunting next year

  • @sparky_-mf2cs

    @sparky_-mf2cs

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have the same one. Love it. Jus not a fan of the magazine. Wish they made a better one for that rifle

  • @reneklein3658
    @reneklein36584 жыл бұрын

    The .308 is the most versatile cartridge out there. Period! From 110grs for plinking to the ever present 150grs for deer, 168 or 175grs for long range precision shooting up to a 1000 meters and 180 or even 200+ grs for heavy and or dangerous game, Bolt Action for Hunting or Sport, Autoloader for SHTF or Lever Action for a Brush or Saddle Gun-the .308 Win covers all of the above and then some!

  • @fillthefeeder

    @fillthefeeder

    Жыл бұрын

    Love the 308, but 30 06 is more versatile.

  • @6.4hemidriver44

    @6.4hemidriver44

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fillthefeeder, I love them both and agree.

  • @danielmaine45
    @danielmaine453 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I still have a personal attachment and preference for the 30-06, but I don't think anyone can say the 308 Winchester has not proven itself to be an excellent cartridge for many of the same applications. Great video!🙂

  • @MegaJeremiah777
    @MegaJeremiah7773 жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad I found this channel. Never did sit down with an uncle or grandpa, have a beer and cigar... and talk about .308. This rocks lol.

  • @aussiehillbilly1933
    @aussiehillbilly19337 жыл бұрын

    I just love listening to this guy. Im a 243 user from South Australia and apart from Nick Harvey an Aussie shooting icon he's just a wealth of knowledge. Thanks. P. Donald

  • @airbornesoldieramerica7125
    @airbornesoldieramerica71255 жыл бұрын

    I enjoy your history lessons on American guns and calibers ! Think I've seen every video you made. Like to see you make more American history video's on guns !

  • @RowdyRory
    @RowdyRory4 жыл бұрын

    Love the Brittany. Cool hat, gun jacket and pants too. I shoot an AR-10 in .308 and it's great, especially when paired with a good scope. Thanks for the vid. And you couldn't be more charming.

  • @philippefrater2000
    @philippefrater20008 жыл бұрын

    Looking for a 243 vid. Thanks again for your great discussions! From France philippe.

  • @bobhotchkiss2438
    @bobhotchkiss24384 жыл бұрын

    Love the video! Love the channel It's great to see old timers, that have forgotten more than a lot of people will ever know, putting real information out there. I was formally trained as a gunsmith in the late 90's at one of our country's few (in person, hands on) gunsmithing schools. And I worked in the industry for a while afterward doing mostly CO&A, scope mountings, and a lot of pistol action work. I got out, because I had one too many run ins with a dangerously unsafe customer, and because I was too inexperienced as a business man. This video has raised some real questions for me about the origin of the .308, because I was taught something completely different. I didn't name my alma mater, because if they fed me a line of BS, I wouldn't want it to reflect too negatively on their reputation. I imagine the discrepancy is probably a case of them coming at it from a completely different perspective, and differences of what they considered to be the most relevant information. Either way, Keep up the good work!

  • @GunBlue490

    @GunBlue490

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. The 308 and it's military 7.62mm counterpart certainly had strong financial inspiration in civilian and military use. Both Winchester and Remington were furiously competitive in cartridge development through the two decades of the 50s and 60s, and each cornered certain markets, sometimes to the other's embarrassing defeat. Winchester lost the 22 caliber throne it held for 20 years with Remington's 222, and their attempt to regain their position with the 225 Winchester was a terrible failure with Remington's commercial release of the 22-250 wildcat. But when Remington's 257 Roberts faded, their attempt to compete with their 244 Remington, which failed miserably against Winchester's 243, and their attempt to do over with the 6mm Remington was a bridge too far. The development of the 308 Winchester was in part spawned with post WWII talk about modernization of the Garand with lighter, more efficient ammo. According to the late Warren Page, developers recognized the limitations of the 300 Savage in feeding and field durability imposed by its short neck and abruptly angled shoulder, so they modified it under the T-65 experiment name which became the 308 Winchester. The Korean war from 1950 to 1953 halted any refinements to the Garand and it's 30-06. But it didn't stop Winchester from releasing it commercially in 1952. The Pentagon went before Congress at the close of the war to fund the M-14 with the 308 chamber (7.62 NATO), which they issued a year later in 1954. Of course, that rifle proved a disastrous failure, being every bit as heavy as the Garand, yet with heavy magazines, which the Pentagon sought to replace with a light cartridge and rifle within a decade. Ironically, Remington caught Winchester with their pants down, because they had the 222 Remington case upon which the 223 was based, which they developed solely as a varmint round at the same time that Winchester was inventing their 308. Warren Page was a close "insider" with Winchester and knew of the 308 development, and it's subsequent 243 Winchester and 358 Winchester in 1955, which use the same efficient parent case. Though the M-14 was a military failure, the round is a mainstay for light machine guns, so it remains as important as its light rifle 223 counterpart.

  • @bobhotchkiss2438

    @bobhotchkiss2438

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@GunBlue490 The conversation, I'm trying my best to remember, with my instuctors took place at over dinner between afternoon and night classes , a little over 20 years ago. SO PLEASE, ANYBODY THAT READS THIS....do not take this as anybody's gospel, because my memory could easily be wrong. I think I started the conversation by asking what was with the odd 168gr 30 cal bullet used in 7.62 NATO. One instructor said it was due to a particular loading of .50 BMG ball ammo that grossly exceeded the performance of earlier loadings, that lead to a variety of different projectiles being made and tested for the .50 BMG. Once they figured that they had developed the ideal shape for the .50, when they rescaled that bullet shape into a 30 caliber bullet it happened to weigh 168 gr. The other instructor then brought up that when ordinance inspected the 6.5 swede round, they found that it too also produced oddly consistent velocities, that were far more consistent than 30-06 loaded with IMR 4895. In trying to figure out why those 2 wildly different cartridges produced more consistent velocities, they came to the conclusion that it almost had to be the ratio of bullet mass to internal case volume, because the 2 projectiles were wildly different shapes, and sizes. From there, they sought to make a 30 caliber case with the same case head diameter as the 30-06 to preserve the utility of existing tooling. So Winchester basically set the case length of the .308 to create an internal volume to bullet mass that fit the ratio that was being taken from those other 2 calibers. Remington pretty much did exactly the same thing with the .222 except the case head size was the same as 9mm tooling, which made for a much smaller shoulder at the neck when compared to the 22-250. They also said that the .50 BMG projectile (that was oddly consistent) is the baseline for a bullet with a ballistic coefficient of 1, which is why the improved versions of the .50cal projectile report BC values greater than 1. Seems like they also said that IMR 3031 was developed special for the .308 because of a need to fill the internal volume of the case just perfect. So not really that different than what you're saying, aside from the idea that the .308 was based on an earlier commercial cartridge, and maybe just a little earlier in the development of the .308. And it may be that this was actually the origin of the 300 savage, and the details had already become too muddied by the passage of time. I think they did say that some part of this was documented by Julian S. Hatcher, in his book.

  • @donaldgroh3928
    @donaldgroh39282 жыл бұрын

    You are the coolest person in the world: Chillin in a chair, teaching like an physicist about guns, drinking a beer, smoking a cigar……all in this age of woke! You go! ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @cbwelch4
    @cbwelch43 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy this guy’s meanderings.

  • @steveschaefer1070
    @steveschaefer10707 жыл бұрын

    Best u tube gun videos ever this guy is great

  • @gramps5157
    @gramps51576 жыл бұрын

    I had the 30.06 and switched to the .308 150 grain. I love it, easy to shoot, very accurate and deadly.

  • @dalanwanbdiska6542

    @dalanwanbdiska6542

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why not 180 grain 308s. Or because of lighter kick. I use 180 grains in my savage 99 308caliber for hunting. 155 fmjs for target.

  • @bobparvin9773

    @bobparvin9773

    2 жыл бұрын

    The 180 gr. BTSP bullets handloaded to 2600 f.p.s. hit like the hammer of THOR out to 300 yds, so does the 178 gr. Hornady ELDX, my favorites in the 308.

  • @RickyJr46
    @RickyJr462 жыл бұрын

    A sublime blending of the technical with the historical.

  • @kiwitrixie70
    @kiwitrixie707 жыл бұрын

    Good video, well done.

  • @christophercraig9469
    @christophercraig9469Ай бұрын

    Excellent history and information!!😎

  • @michaelwelsh8738
    @michaelwelsh87383 жыл бұрын

    Great video I live in the Northeast and the 308 is perfect for in the woods in Mountain areas where I live not just for Whitetail but for Blackberry as well.

  • @KevinSmith-jt8fr
    @KevinSmith-jt8fr Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff!

  • @geraldkoth654
    @geraldkoth6543 жыл бұрын

    The first rifle that I bought for myself was the Model 88 Winchester in .308 Winchester. The locking mechanism was a three lug bolt basically just rotated by the lever at lock and unlock. Reloaded myself and got that gun shooting 5 shot groups by the old method (ring around the shots) of 3/4 inch at 100 yards. Now they measure groups to the center of the shots. Since it was my deer hunting rifle, I used 170 grain round nose and loaded those to 2900 fps using a Herters primer and powder. That round was recommended to me by an older fellow I met. He was shooting 30-06. He taught me a whole bunch about reloading. That combo would enter a deer and not exit. I know you like the lung collapse deal. I liked the ease of gutting. Cut the belly slit and the liquified organs just poured out. My dad had the Savage lever in 300 Savage. He dropped a lot of deer in their tracks.

  • @PanfishingJournal
    @PanfishingJournal4 жыл бұрын

    I would rather listen to you than watch people shoot. Anyone can shoot but not everyone can really teach younger generations about firearms. God bless you!!

  • @oakenloreknives6889
    @oakenloreknives68898 жыл бұрын

    Interesting and informative video. I've hunted with the 30-06 and the 308 and there isn't any real difference but I did like my 06.

  • @jonsmith919

    @jonsmith919

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oaken Lore Knives I like the nostalgia of it I only use 180 grain in elk and 150 for deer. I don’t see point in buying a .308

  • @918Mitchell

    @918Mitchell

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jonsmith919 30.06 will take any game in north America depending on your ammo and is a great option if you're only going to have 1 gun. ....but if you can own 2 guns, a 308 is a great choice and it's cheaper to shoot.

  • @shinrapresident7010
    @shinrapresident70109 ай бұрын

    I'm 33 and Canadian. My hunting rifle is a Remington 700 CDL in .308 Win and I use 150 grain bonded. This has done everything for me and my family for 15 years; deer, elk, coyote, boar, wolf, caribou, moose and bear. We have very thick woods, so I've never had shoot more then 250 yards.

  • @charlesholzy
    @charlesholzy6 жыл бұрын

    haha bloody hell, perched on his favourite deck chair ripping through a cigar and smashing a cheeky beer, there's no other way id rather learn about guns. well done mate, all the way from australia

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