The Pokemon Colosseum Retrospective
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Get ready to snatch yourself some Shadow pokemon, we're going back a couple decades to talk about Pokemon's first step into the Console systems.
Pokemon Colosseum.
Thanks to Mr Cake Dragonman For Editing The Video MRcakeDragonMan ➤ / thelastcakegames t.co/6CVT7G8Ow4
Chapters
0:00 - The start
0:35 - A New Step
3:51 - Wes, A Breath of Fresh Air
10:39 - Setting the Stage (Setting and Tone)
15:02 - It's Game Time! (Gameplay)
22:23 - Graphics and Art Design
26:09 - THE END
28:20 - End Credits
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@ashmanchester2611
2 жыл бұрын
I know that this is majorly off topic but did you see Mr. Enters review of Turning Red. Also love seeing your videos on pokemon and Yugioh dude. Keep em coming.
@fallenmydude2711
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome 👌
@goldshell9992
2 жыл бұрын
Can you talk about the new Kirby next?
@MrRAGE-md5rj
2 жыл бұрын
LET THE MUSIC PLAY!! Great video, by the way. Collosseum was the first Pokemon game I played as a kid.
@angrybrony
2 жыл бұрын
minus internet funny man points for having an open "your heart" joke but not playing the sonic adventure theme.
We Need A Remaster of Pokémon Colosseum and Gale of Darkness
@samreddig8819
2 жыл бұрын
I want a post game set in orre. Like the delta episode in the gen 3 remakes.
@beedrillbot121
2 жыл бұрын
If the game was remastered instead of remade on switch could it be made compatible with a GBA since the switch has a Gamecube adaptor?
@bearberserker
2 жыл бұрын
Could they make it better than the D&P remakes?
@joegreen3802
2 жыл бұрын
@@beedrillbot121 Or they could port the Gen 3 games on the switch like they did with Gens 1 and 2 on the 3Ds.
@beedrillbot121
2 жыл бұрын
@@joegreen3802 honestly I’m just interested whether it’s possible or not.
The Orre region was simply built different
Mirror B is okay here in Colosseum, but in XD, his theme music alone blows his appearance in this game out of the water. In his words: let the music play!
@DVO54
2 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely different in colosseum which is why I feel it’s unique but I do have to agree, the XD music for Miror is other worldly compared to what we were introduced to
I think XD (this game’s sequel) is better in every regard except the tone of the story, but Colosseum set the stage for XD and gave it a good foundation to stand upon. Let the music play!
@YarnLalms711
2 жыл бұрын
I'd argue there's some other things that Colosseum does better like the catching system cause it's literally possible to waste your Master Ball in XD, and half of the Shadow Pokemon are stuck on Citadark Isle where it's a big halt of the story since it's one massive island that takes literal hours to traverse.
@averytubestudios
2 жыл бұрын
@@YarnLalms711 Fair. I agree with you on the Citadark Isle thing, but if you DIDNT use your Master Ball on Evice’s Tyrantitar, that’s your mistake.
@YarnLalms711
2 жыл бұрын
@@averytubestudios I'd argue it's better to use the Master Ball on Metagross due to the difference in catch rate, this is also ignoring the glitch that makes the Master Ball infinite
@gliscaradu1424
2 жыл бұрын
Let the music play!
@affsteak3530
2 жыл бұрын
I think XD wastes the players time more, especially in the beginning when you're escorting Jowy around.
Omg Gale of Darkness was my favorite game to play as a kid! I love the fact that Eevee is your starter and you can have any Eeveelution (Gen 1-3) super early in the game. Plus unlike most Pokémon games, Colosseum and Gale of Darkness aren’t hand holding at all so after the very short tutorial you can practically enjoy the game.
I played XD as a kid but didn’t learn about colosseum until later. I wish they had the balls to make another Pokémon game like this, the story had some darkness to it, the region was somewhat gritty and crime ridden, the protagonist was a criminal who betrayed his gang, it was so different but it worked so well. Not to mention it was difficult, especially with all the battles being doubles, which made the battle looks grander which fit the grand battle themes. The plot was simple it had some really cool ideas, the shadow Pokemon were basically living weapons and taking them back from the bad guys was a really cool mechanic. Hopefully with legends arceus being seen as good they’ll begin having more confidence in spin offs again. I’d love another Pokémon game like this
Got to love that during the 25th anniversary of Pokémon a whole 5 seconds of either Colosseum or XD played. If they ever remake this game I hope they give Mirror B a Buffalaunt. Let the music Play.
I love Colosseum so much. I really appreciate how much attention it's getting these days, it completely deserves it. Let the music play!
Let the music play! That said, I have to admit, headcanon for Wes, personally was something akin to having worked for them. The point he turned on Team Snagem was after finding out about shadow pokemon, and likely a threat that either his espeon or umbreon... or both... were going to be put through that process.
@AnhPhuong-yr5od
5 ай бұрын
Wow! A cool headcanon!
@LilacMonarch
4 ай бұрын
I like to think he never really had any qualms with stealing people's Pokemon for fun but when he found out what exactly was being done to them he drew the line. And then when Rui tells him he can only steal Shadow Pokemon he's just like "fiiiiiiiine ok"
This vid is definitely what I call solid B-Day Gift. I'm so glad that _even TO THIS_ *DAY* Pokémon -Terrorism- Colosseum(an early 2000s game at that) STILL gets more respect than Gen 6 to 8!
@riotkitty
2 жыл бұрын
Eh give it a decade or so, Gen 6-8 will be more highly regarded because everyone got the vile out of their britches. It’s the cycle of Pokémon games, and as of right now it’s yet to be disproven. Heck, Gen 6 is starting to get that a claim now, just wait till Gen 9 and I bet Gen 7 will get about the same amount as Colosseum
@maxanderson3733
2 жыл бұрын
@@justcallmezero. And that’s a completely valid opinion.
If Pokemon ever decided to change things up again like how Sun and Moon had trials. I wouldn’t mind seeing them bring back Shadow Pokemon and having the gym challenge swapped out for raiding villain team bases. Also they should’ve remastered this game for the Wii U or Switch. They could’ve not done the Delcalore Islands arc in Black and White for Ash going to Orre and getting a gang of Shadow Pokemon to purify.
I still hold the opinion that this game had better move animation than a fare chunk of sword and shield
0:11 I still can't get over how Cristina Vee actually did this. She did voice work for Pokemon Orgins, Pokemon Evolutions and Pokemon Masters.
@leoultimaupgraded9914
2 жыл бұрын
Wait that was Cristina Vee? Voice actress of Shantae and amazing singer? As Despacito Spriggatito?
@theholyllama6950
2 жыл бұрын
@@leoultimaupgraded9914 Damn what HASN'T she voiced in? In almost everything I have ever watched or played, she's there. Also, how cool would it be if she voiced in Vox Machina? A little call back to Dark & Dicey
Ngl love the pokemon and yugioh themed videos , I love both seires alot and love to see your opinions.
@Mangakamen
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them
16:59 Meanwhile in Legends Arceus, your pokemon can accidentally hit you if you're too close (it doesn't do anything but it does happen).
9:13 That looks nice... Also Midriffs are amazing, and need more love.
Pokemon Colosseum and XD are still in my top 5 favorite Pokemon games. They just have a certain unique feel and charm to them. Plus I love how every battle is a double battle.
I'M SO HYPED. First Pokemon game I ever played, favorite game of all time, and I absolutely LOVE the art
When I first got Colosseum as kid, I didn't like it because it felt too different. As I got older, I found a new love for it BECAUSE of its differences.
I think the older brother miss translation comes from the word Aniki (兄貴) which does mean older brother but is closer to boss, often used by gangster.
YESSSS ANOTHER OF THESE, I'VE BEEN WAITING! Since you're checking out the spin-offs in their own respective videos, I'd love to see a "Ranger"- and a "Mystery dungeon"-retrospective
@Mangakamen
2 жыл бұрын
Well, I may not make a video on the sequel if this doesn't get too many views.
Unofficial “Games aren’t Art” video? Anyways, great video. I love this game to death and love hearing others talk about it LET THE MUSIC PLAY!
I still remmber the commerical:.... "YOU CANNOT STEAL OUR POKEMON!"
definitely one of the greatest pokemon games To bad couldn't take just any pokemon though. Definitely hope make a remake of it
Beautiful work. So glad to see more love for the game! It really deserves it. And yesss that Rui art is beautiful! In the sequel it would have been great to see Rui as the main protagonist. Let the music play! Keep on rocking Manga!
I never played this game before. It looks really unique and I like the tone of the story. Let the music play!
Okay, I lost it with Decpacito Sprigatito, but it was also super cute. Rui had a midriff in Japan? Huh, the more you know. Shadow Pokemon were some of the coolest additions to the lore of the universe due to jimplications of what it takes to make them.
The battle theme you heard from Willie isn't play only for him, it's played when you go against casual trainers like old people rich\ ladies trainers, guys and guys with glasses( yes, that's a trainer class in this game) teachers, athletes, lady in suit (again, only in this game) and ace trainers.😶
@MelodyCrystel
2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the theme was exclusively for him in the sequel (XD Gale of Darkness), though.
@Mangakamen
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't say it was exclusively for him - Only that it was the introduction to the theme.
@keondramcintyre3444
2 жыл бұрын
Oh, my bad. Let the music play!!😶
On the "Darkest" title I think only Team Flare's planned genocide in X&Y really tops how dark this particular game's plot is, but on the whole this game does have the darkest atmosphere given that much of X&Y simply has Team Flare as a bunch of bumbling wannabes. Also, "Let the Music Play."
@mistahl5350
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this for the most part. Cipher feels like an evolution of Team Rocket, in that their experimentation bore fruit. To what end, I'm not sure it's said, though world domination? Though now, I'd like to make an argument for DPP having the darkest storyline. Yeah there's planned genocide with Flare, but Cyrus was planning on nuking EVERYTHING just to be by himself. No ecological end goal like with Aqua and Magma (and Flare to an extent). No plan for works domination. Just to get away from the people that bother him. Relatable somedays, but still dark af to wipe all existence just to be alone
Let the music play! Colosseum and Gale of Darkness are games I never had the chance to play, although I did have a Gale of Darkness edition Gamecube at one time(I didn't know it was until I removed the black marker scribbles on the art. Why anyone would do that is anyone's guess).
LET THE MUSIC PLAY! ARHYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I think I still prefer Gale of Darkness over Colosseum. Just over the fact that in Gale, we have a much smoother introduction into the gameplay and improved Shadow Pokémon. I honestly would like to see more people talk about it you included. Decent enough video, do keep going.
petition to have the snagem hideout explosion be a bait-and-switch meme
Man this game bring back good memories. One of my favorites is having to reset the game when I didn't catch the shadows pokemon from the Combat.
16:55 Notices the nickname for the Typhlosion. Snickers… nice. Anyway, I have this game and beaten it. Love this game so much. Glad you’re covering it. The music and plot were really great.
Much of Colosseum and XDs gritty atmosphere and character designs comes from mangaka Sinichi Horimoto, who worked as character designer and Art Director for both games. A fun fact, the Demon Designer for the upcoming Chainsaw Man anime, Kiyotaka Oshiyama, has been illustrating Pokemon cards since 2011.
@Mangakamen
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting.
Banger after banger after banger from you my man. Great vids looking forward to the next one
@Mangakamen
2 жыл бұрын
I just wish the views would be there *sighs*
I played XD as a kid without knowing it was a sequel to Colosseum, but Orre was my first introduction into Pokemon. If there ever was a third game to this series it could go something like this: Instead of playing as a preteen just starting out on his journey like the mainline games, you'd be playing as a fugitive from another crime syndicate (Team Plasma or Galactic just off the top of my head) looking to start a new life in a new region. It's been several years since the end of Gale of Darkness and wild Pokemon are starting to return to the region, but there are still lawless elements. It's been established in Colosseum and GoD that the only way to safely cross the desert is by vehicles equipped with special hover technology, so a feature would be caravans pulled by teams of Mudsdales, and every trip would run the risk of being assaulted by hordes of desert Pokemon (Hippowdons, Cacturnes, Pawniards, etc). Rather than automatically get new regional starters at the very beginning like most games, you'd start off with a Pokemon from your criminal days (most likely something at a midway evolution like Magneton or Loudred), but get the opportunity to choose a regional starter around the midpoint of the game. And of course we'd need the return of Miror B! Let the music play!
20:59 I like how the sequel, XD Gale Of Darkness, straight-up did that too. 😂
"It doesn't affect Misdreavus."
I have an incredible amount of nostalgia for this game and XD and I’m so glad more people have been talking it about them these days.
@justacarbuncle
2 жыл бұрын
Also Let the Music Play!
Delighted to hear appreciation and analysis of this wonderful game. Let the music play!
I think we can safely the music will not be playing for a LONG time. RIP Gale of Darkness. You will be remembered in our shadowy hearts.
I love this game so much, I decided to speedrun it, with a large LC pizza, 2L of Mt. Dew, and a family sized bag of Doritos. Let the music play, he won’t get away!
Let the music play! I find that Colosseum and XD gale of darkness both have their problems but I wish the concept of shadow pokemon could come back, and be the main driving point of a story with small nods to the ore region.
All I can think of now with Colosseum is Team Snagem spelt backwards. Thanks Jellopocalypse.
One of the most Underrated Pokémon games ever, I swear, most of the Spin-off games in this franchise are awesome!
@Mangakamen
2 жыл бұрын
Let the music play.
Let the music play!! Fantastic analysis Kamen. It brought me back to when I played it. I loved how you actually had to save the world instead of collecting gym badges. Please do a video on XD.
Seeing that small of bit of chuggaaconroy footage really took me back and put a smile on my face. Let the music play!
I LOVE YOUR POKEMON VIDEOS!!! LET THE MUSIC PLAY!!!
My favorite parts about this game were the various battle modes with you being able to use a party from any gen 3 game and also the double battles. Also love orre colosseum
For Orre itself, I'd like to see another game from this Region. Heck, I'd like to see another established character in Pokemon, being part of an evil team (which I do have an idea for) and a dad character. I do agree with you on a lot of the subject matter, especially on your closing thoughts "It took a risk". That's kind of why I like the Let's Go games and Legends so much, they're different from the main line series and shook it up, and I want to see more in that vain. Though I'm upset you don't didn't cover a few things. The solo gym leader of the region, which is understandable. But you didn't cover Miracle B, and that's a crime against nature. I mean did you hear *his* theme? It's just Miror B's theme but pitched up, making it ten times more hilarious. Also, using Chuggaaconroy's clips I see. Nice. Now Let the Music Play, I want to see your opinions on Shadow Luigi.
colosseum deserves more love, seriously it was a awesome game, i wish they would at least refrence it, like mirror B getting a mention or something
Great video!!! I love Pokémon Colosseum and Pokémon XD!!! Please cover the latter too! :D
@Mangakamen
2 жыл бұрын
I'll try, but it depends if this video goes well.
The KH references are on point, Nascour straight up looks like Ansem-Riku Let the music play!
KAMEN!! Hope you're doing well man. :) Glad to see your channel's been popping!
@Mangakamen
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks!
@crashertalksmore9869
2 жыл бұрын
@@Mangakamen can I chase your skull character around in a future video??? Could it be all chibi like and I'm an aggressive Incineroar? :P
Love the Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends reference
I had this game on my mind lately, so I'm glad someone else is covering it. I was gonna lament that no one's made a GBA Rom Hack or similar to recontextualize the game but you covered that. Please support them. Perhaps the reason I don't jive with Unova's environment is because the wonder of an American based region was used up for Orre. Something I don't regret. Let the Music Play indeed.
Let the Music Play! Fun fact: Originally Wes was planned to be the Final boss of Pokemon XD instead of Greevil, and we would have learned He initially didnt have good Intentions. But he was scrapped as that would have made the first game be seen as pointless in the eyes of the players.
So awesome, let the music play !
I always go back to these games now and then
LET THE MUSIC PLAY BABY
Finally pokemon colosseum is ACKNOWLEDGED. Thank you kamen
I'd love for them to return to this region in a Legends: Celebi game. Players would go back and forth through time with the help of Celebi restoring the barren region. The series only has gen 1-3 pokemon there but maybe other gens once thrived there too. Every change we make to the past would alter pokemon available in the future. Players would also have to discover the connection between naturally occurring shadow pokemon and the original grey dragon from gen 5 that lives in the past Orre region. Ancestors of cipher Admins; Dakim, Venus and Ein would have the paradox poekemon Gouging Fire, Walking Wake and Raging Bolt.
2:47 He said in 2015 when the Wii and Wii U had WiFi like the NDS and 3DS.
LET THE MUSIC PLAY!
This video made me think about rewatching Chuggaaconroys old playthrough of Coliseum, just to then see a clip of his at 23:10. Guess I'm obligated to rewatch at this point.
@Mangakamen
2 жыл бұрын
Or you could rewatch my video and help it get into the algorithm with views lol
First off, points for using Ken ashcorp's rival. Been a good while since I've heard anything from them. Pokémon Colosseum will always hold a special place in my heart and memory for Wes alone. This ain't no ten year old running about, that's for sure. Also, if you think Mirror B.s theme in this game is great, wait till you get to XD. LET THE MUSIC PLAY!!
One of my favorite pokemon title, banger OST, great graphics and animations for the time. Let the music play btw.
LET THE MUSIC PLAY!!! Pokemon Colosseum is my favorite video game of all time.
Let the music play! Grew up with pokemon colosseum, despite it's issues, it is one of my favorite games of all time. XD is amazing as well, looking forward to the pixel art remake of the game whenever that releases!
Honestly, one of my favorite games in the entire series. Let th e music play, Kamen. Let the music play!
Thanks for sharing; take care
Let the music start !
oh take me back to the good ol days
20:11 ♫Thunder, rain and lightning...♫
There ARE moves that are given to pokemon in colosseum that pokemon can't learn naturally. From what i know about competitive there are some pokemon brought all the way up from then to use those moves. Heal bell is one but i'm not sure about others
Let the music play! I'm glad I got a copy so I can use it later. Still I played XD as one of my first Pokemon games (The only reason I got a Gamecube was for XD) before I even knew of Colosseum existing and have only seen the game through LPs (Shadyguy999 (One of the first KZread channels I watched but that channel is gone) and Chuggaaconroy), but the Shadow Pokemon games have such a cool concept, that I love. I will probably have more to say about XD than Colosseum, and I hope to play Colosseum for myself someday (probably through an LP if I can learn how to record and make them).
*"Let the music play!"*
LET THAT MUSIC PLAY BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Let the music play over and over again and again baby!
Most of the modern animations came from Stadium and Colusseum, these kids should know their roots, this game was groundbreaking when it came out.
LET THE MUSIC PLAY! gotta admit, it is hard for me to not use the infinite ball exploit in this game.
I've seen a lot of retrospectives/reviews on this game and I think this video is a wee bit too scatterbrained for its own good. There's very little of the actual gameplay described in this video outside of the broadest strokes of the double battle formula. The Pokemon roster in this game is particularly interesting because a lot of the gen 2 Pokemon represented here are Pokemon that are previously unobtainable before the post game. Pokemon like misdrevious and Slugma really do get some nice time to shine in this game in a scenario where they wouldn't get another opportunity for a long time
I’m so happy the old school Pokémon console games are starting to get some love. Do XD! Let the music play!
Let the music play. I have to say I feel really lucky that I have both of these games in playable condition (one from a retro store and one I had when I was a kid) since I can't find it almost anywhere these days, and as a collector those games are must haves.
Fun fact: there was a bug wherein if you used your first Pokemon's turn to throw a ball, then with your second Pokemon went back into your bag and swapped that ball's position with another one in the bag before using a move, the ball you selected to throw wouldn't be consumed. I abused the hell out of it for infinite Master Balls once I got it 😂
I had a lot of fun with Pokemon Colosseum. I named the MC Yugi and the female companion Sakura because Yu-Gi-Oh and Cardcaptors were my favourite shows at the time.
@Mangakamen
2 жыл бұрын
interesting
You mentioned DmC but neglected to mention how Wes looks like DMC3 Vergil?
Can’t wait for xd review
I still love these games and wonder what a third entry for this side game would look like.
this is still my all time favorite Pokemon game.
Let the music play! Hoo! 🎵
I am more so for XD Gale of Darkness though Colosseum is awsome!
XD does do the "exclusive move on purification" heal bell mareep on purification is the only way to get heal bell on them without breeding that mareep later. many others have moves exclusive to XD. That said, Let the music play! good work as always
@Mangakamen
2 жыл бұрын
Well, we're talking about the first game here.
Let the music play! I'd love to see you cover XD in the future!
One thing older games did really well was not explicitly tell you absolutely everything.
Without even watching the video yet I already have to agree with the title alone. This truly was a case on getting it perfect the first time. And honestly I think the credit should probably go to Genius Sonorities the devs for all the CONSOLE Pokemon games up until I believe the Switch. Once Game Freak started taking over development of their console games there was definitely a noticeable dip in quality. Not bad (For the most part at least) but definitely subpar compared to what we'd gotten in the past. Can't wait to watch the video to hear your take on the subject.
@aureliodeprimus8018
2 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree a little bit. Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness improved the formula quite a bit, so i would call it the best instead of Colloseum. Unless Kamen is talking about both simultaneously of course.^^
@V-Jes
2 жыл бұрын
The heck are you talking about? GF never took over as Genius Sonority stopped making console Pokemon games all the way back in 2006, while Pokemon's quality has pretty much stayed the same for over a decade now...
@riotkitty
2 жыл бұрын
There wasn’t any “taking over” it’s just Nintendo decided to start making hybrid consoles so all handheld developers moved over to the Switch. Genius Sorority stopped making console games over a decade before that.
@KyogresHideout_Vegito2121
2 жыл бұрын
I should clarify when I said "taking over" (Which I'll admit I worded poorly) I simply meant when GF started making games on console in house specifically SwSh. They do however seem to be getting the hang of it with Legends Arceus and the upcoming Scarlet/Violet.
@V-Jes
2 жыл бұрын
@@KyogresHideout_Vegito2121 well duh, GF always makes Pokémon games by first making a weaker game to test the hardware and that it's engine and assets can be recycled to make better games faster afterwards, they have literally done that starting from Gen 3 yet people still don't seem to know that they do that 20 years later...
Now I vaguely remember this game. I am fairly certain that it was available for the GameCube because my friend played that game religiously whenever I was hanging out with him at his house
imagine if they had a game like this today with gens 1-9 mons
@Mangakamen
2 жыл бұрын
I mean... Fan games are a thing.