Erik claims no one ever showed him love or compassion, but she rescued him and took care of him for decades, so uh....

@sirenia1241

8 жыл бұрын

It's so true. She never laughed at him, she cared about the poor little boy and helped him out. She cared.

@gingerisevil02

6 жыл бұрын

For real! Seems like a plot hole

@cutsieproductions4805

6 жыл бұрын

Shady Character Art Maybe he means romantic love?

@songjookim5839

6 жыл бұрын

But he still had to hide underneath the opera house. No one except her cared about him.. and yes Christine is his Lover. And also the memories of abusement cannot be removed

@deannalauber4611

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Madame Giry! I am forever in your debt. O.G.

This absolutely broke my heart when I first saw this movie and it still does.

@ezrastardust3124

2 жыл бұрын

Same here I just want to give poor Erik a hug

@ingridcalderon1994

Ай бұрын

Me too. I want to hug Erik. 🥺🥺🥺🥺

I'm actually surprised that he didn't fall in love with Madame Giry because she was the one who showed kindness to him and saved him

@la_esmeralda444

3 жыл бұрын

How could they do an adaptation of The Phantom of the Opera, if Erik had fall in love by madame Giry instead of Christine? Also, he prob saw her as a mother, since she was older than him and he never had mother's love. Sorry if i'm being gross or something, that's just my view. I think it would be interesting if Erik and madame Giry were kinda son and mother. He could find another love, better than Christine, and be happy at last. What do you think about it?

@lunami5731

3 жыл бұрын

@@la_esmeralda444 Also, I think the Phantom first fell in love with Christine's voice not her beauty/personality. It is hinted in a few songs I think. Madame Giry was a dancer, a ballerina but not a singer, a musical artist. Christine could preform the songs he wrote so it created a bond between her and Erik. I agree that Erik might think of Madame Giry as a motherly figure and once you grow up motherly affection isn't enough to complete you. Erik desired romantic affection which he could only get from Christine but not from Madame Giry. Atleast thats how I see it.

@la_esmeralda444

3 жыл бұрын

@@lunami5731 thank you! You stole my words 😙😙

@sundus928

2 жыл бұрын

@@lunami5731 He got obsessed with Christine because she was his puppet and did everything what he told her to do. Christine was naïve and the Phantom easily hypnotised her and made her believe he's the ghost of her father . I wouldn't call this love but , I guess a Guardian angel *who's very strict* and *commanding*

@riaesmi5414

Жыл бұрын

@@sundus928 but he loved her. He kidnapped, stalked her because he didn't know any other way. No one ever taught him how to show love and hold Christine in the right way. The Phantom did bad things, I understand, but he tried to be gentle with her. In the end he lets her go because he wants happiness for the love of his life.

I totally wrote a paper on this scene in college.

i hate them for calling him hell child. I feel so bad for him.

@eugenegregg5339

6 жыл бұрын

Same, And I'm pretty sure that they are the ones to blame for his mind and face being half messed up

@minion_lover2343

4 жыл бұрын

No he was born like that

This moment is so sad.I feel so sorry for The Phantom (Erik).

HOLY SHIT THIS IS THE BEGINNING TO LOVE NEVER DIES THE CONEY ISLAND THEME

If you listen very closely to just the background music, it's Coney island from Love Never Dies or at least where it might've been based on

@wildkratts16aj59

5 жыл бұрын

I thought it was the carnival of the animals

the phantom is not the monster, the real monsters are the people who abuse and bully him

Roaul, his madness is a result of a childhood filled with nothing by abuse and neglect because he was born deformed. He suffered at the hands of a freak show whilst you lived in a mansion with everything. He had nothing. You had everything.

@la_esmeralda444

3 жыл бұрын

YEESSSS Raoul was treated like a prince his entire live. He had everything, and he wants to judge someone at the margins of society, who hasnt no compassion his entire live! Omg i just hate this...

@vicentehizon6202

2 жыл бұрын

When you say “deformed”, surely you mean, “He’s got a bad sunburn.”

@pillypuppy666

Жыл бұрын

He wasn't even mad at all, he was traumatized for life. There's a difference.

this is actually one of my favourite scenes of the whole movie

He was just a child... a poor, innocent, naive and tortured child. Madame Giry was the only one that helped him.... poor Erik

If I were to write a proper sequel to the Phantom's story; instead of the Phantom grieving over losing Christine to Raoul, I would have had Madame Gire go to his lair, and have her escape with Eric from the Paris Opera House, and have the both of them grow closer to each other, living out their lives together, while also being on the run from the Paris authorities, and maybe have them ending up in Moscow or somewhere in Italy, etc.

@christinasamuel3947

6 жыл бұрын

good point but the problem is that there was never a squeal to the book because in the book by Gaston Leroux the phantom dies 3 weeks after the events in the opera house well it is reported only

@jaelbecker3898

5 жыл бұрын

I think your right.

@colleen5100

5 жыл бұрын

Ever heard of "Love Never Dies" ..I mean you wrote this a year ago so maybe you have

@leilamonahan

4 жыл бұрын

Instead, They come back together :/

@juliemcintyre428

3 жыл бұрын

@@colleen5100 True, but they said it was so bad it wasn't released in the U.S. So it doesn't count for a lot of people.

Pool phantom... >< I have watched this part several times and cried. :((

Poor Erik 🥺

@la_esmeralda444

3 жыл бұрын

💔😢😢

@ingridcalderon1994

Ай бұрын

😢😢😢😢

ISN'T THIS THE FREAKING TUNE FROM LOVE NEVER DIES

@sundus928

2 жыл бұрын

Which song?

Young Erik after his first kill: I... I can't believe I did that! I killed someone!!! Adult Erik after killing the stage hand: Serves you right for spying on me. My work here is done...

how old is the phantom?? is he about the same age of madame giry?? and when child christine brought to the opera house, madame giry is already grown up and mature. so phantom and christine age gap would be very far, right??

@vincii2004

8 жыл бұрын

The actors and actess' age at the time: Christine:17 Phantom:32

@lexalina132

7 жыл бұрын

Rachel Aviona some sources have the character of the Phantom being approximately 50 or so years old

@mialevi1341

7 жыл бұрын

Rachel Aviona 16 and mid 30

@bloodymary7651

6 жыл бұрын

In the book Christine was 16, I can't remember how old Erik was, but there was a big age gap.

@kittycollins2193

6 жыл бұрын

In the book I'm pretty sure Christine was like nineteen maybe? And Erik would have been in his late thirties

I sorta feel bad for Erik i just wish he would have someone to care about him and save him someone like christine daae. Or me.

I feel so bad :'(

“Genius has turned into madness.” I wouldn’t say that - but I would call him a *mad genius!*

This scene creeped me out so much! Lol

@galaxy9501

6 жыл бұрын

they whole movie creeped me out and still does

This was my favourite movie when I was two...

@luca2348

7 жыл бұрын

xXzoe Xx Why did your parents let you watch it when you where two?!? 😂

@IronycheinPain

7 жыл бұрын

How did that break the logic of age?

I love this movie and Erik's life was so sad And hard and the only love he had fell in love with someone else...oh man i want to cry

@DiamanteDea

6 жыл бұрын

Fabiola Cañas yeah but you wouldn’t want to be with him if he was obsessively stalking and controlling your life looking like death

this scene frightened me when I was a kid

It's quite intesting how the music used in the scene is similar to the Cony Island waltz from Love Never Dies. Because this was made before that, and the music was used for the fair, why would ALW choose to use the same/similar music to represent something run by the Phantom?

@colleen5100

5 жыл бұрын

I was just thinking about that...I think in the graveyard scene you hear a small bit of "Beneath a Moonless Sky"

This scene scared the crap out of me as a child, still kinda does!

So sad Poor Phantom

MEH BABY IS BOOTIFUL MASK OR NO MASK!

Cool cool

2:46 young maden giry: if you stay here, you be safe. Young phantom: thank you, young lady.

This is so cruel :( poor Eric ( phantom)

0:14 I SEE POINTE SHOES BALLERINAS WHERE ARE YOU

Hey, it's Stromboli from Disney's Pinocchio!

poor Eric

@sallybarlow9815

8 жыл бұрын

erik

@octaviatrikru802

6 жыл бұрын

ERIK

@emilyelizabeth9866

6 жыл бұрын

I don't know who Erik is !

@niloufarmoezzi9139

6 жыл бұрын

Арина Мараева who?

@youtubingjaguar5082

6 жыл бұрын

The Phantom of the Opera. ;)

Monsters are often created by other monsters 😔

Is it just me? Did I mishear the lines in the show? From what I remember Madame Giry never helped the Phantom escape. How he escaped was part of the mystery. Did I get it all wrong?

@nicolebenson705

8 жыл бұрын

No, the story she told in the musical was just expanded upon for the movie

@kerdunne3422

6 жыл бұрын

The only difference is that Erik was an adult when he was with the circus and he escaped himself but Madame Giry still seemed to help in some ways as she was the go-to with notes.

@christinasamuel3947

6 жыл бұрын

Ker Dunne good point also int the book she has a different back story in the phantoms past the person who helped the phantom never made it to the musical

this takes creepy dude: I smell Pennies!! kid: AAAAAAHHHHH To a whole new level.

pauvre fantôme...ça fait mal au coeur...

I don’t get why he was called the devils child if there was a man stretching his eyelids to Narnia

@sundus928

2 жыл бұрын

😭😂😂 true. They didn't even try to make him ugly just for the sake of show business

Coney Island!!

Why do you think the monkey took such a keen interest in what was going on? Do you think he identified with the Phantom for being treated like an animal?

Yes, the musical doesn't even cover how Eric even got to the underworld of the Paris Opera House.l am sure Meg also knew the Secret.

You know, now that I see this scene, why didn't Andrew Lloyd Webber do a prequel to the phantom? instead of the sequel, love never dies because it did not make a prequel, it would have counted the years of the ghost's youth, from his childhood with the gypsies, his years in persia until finally ending in paris, even the Persian would have appeared.

@la_esmeralda444

3 жыл бұрын

It would be very interesting! But i would cry so much lol...😂😂

@gustavotorres-ky8km

3 жыл бұрын

@@la_esmeralda444 jajajaja, It is true

The big guy looks like Stromboli from Pinocchio.

One thing I always had a question about-was Erik originally a gypsy as well?

@rodrigobmesquita

4 жыл бұрын

Bebe according to Gaston Leroux, Erik was born in France - but traveled all the world after escaping the gypsies. In Susan Kay’s novel “Phantom”, which merges the works of Leroux and Andrew Lloyd Webber, Erik’s father died before his birth, and he ran away from his abusive mother, and that’s when he found the gypsies.

김명깊었던 장면.... 저 때 진짜 불상해 보였는데

I always thought that Madame Giry(when she was younger in this scene) was Christine

@mysticgirl916

4 жыл бұрын

According to the screenplay in the movie companion book, Mme Giry was 12 in this scene, the Phantom was about 9

I'm not gonna see Phantom again.

I saw this movie

Oof why did the circus music sound like it was from "Coney island waltz"....

Who brings little rich girls to this place like I’m confused just why

@shinysugardrops

5 жыл бұрын

I guess the place where Giry was idk

What I don't get is if she knew where The Phantom was why didn't Madame Giry try to stop him

what I don't get is that he lets the guy beat him up without doing anything but fights back after the guy is done beating him up

Raoul: But clearly, Madame Giry, genius has turned to madness. RAOUL!!!!! Take that back!!! He was abused his whole life to make the freak show money, he lived his whole life in solitude, the woman he loves, who he hopes will bring him the kindness he was denied since CHILDHOOD, is in love with someone else and you just called him a madman!!!!!! How would you feel if you were in his shoes and YOU were called mad??!?!?

2:13 death

Ever heard of the Elephant Man? This person was also abused and put up in a freak show but he didn't turn into a murderer. Even in the Original story, Erik had Daroga . This man had a whole Opera House a freaking OPERA THEATRE under his control so no one should excuse his actions . The guy had everything except a young , beautiful, naïve girl ,whom he manipulated and kidnapped to be with him. #TeamRaul

@riaesmi5414

Жыл бұрын

He didn't have love. He had been hated all his life because of his face, a mask was thrown at him, and so he was afraid Christine would reject him because of his face. This caused a violent reaction. But he didn't have the love of his parents, he didn't have “everything”. No one gave him what he needed, absolutely no one. He was alone with his injuries that no one could help him with. Christine was not just a girl, she was the first that he really loved. And he had never loved anyone like this before.

@sundus928

Жыл бұрын

@@riaesmi5414 It would be fine if you wrote that comment inside the boundaries of FICTION! It is very clear in the book and musical that He's a creep but ALW is the biggest Phantom × Christine shipper and made him live. He's not a child that his actions should be forgiven coz he "loved" someone.

@sundus928

Жыл бұрын

@@riaesmi5414 Even in the original story , he traveled Middle East and built a labyrinth for the king. The man was a drama queen and absolutely insane for power and dominance.

@riaesmi5414

Жыл бұрын

@@sundus928 Actions can not be forgiven, but understood. I understand perfectly well that he did a lot of terrible things and I don't justify it, but I can't hate him for it.

@sundus928

Жыл бұрын

@@riaesmi5414 Everyone do understand his actions BUT not his character. He might not even have a good character but everyone make it a love story coz he "loved" Christine. Gaston leroux killed him off coz the character don't deserve much but he did deserved redemption before death. Ppl can simp Erik but also acknowledge how Gaston wrote him.

This is sad. But what's even sadder is that no-one seems to notice how hypocritical and racist this scene is. They talk about 'beauty underneath' and then they give us a scene where they use every stereotype about gypsies in the book - they're circus people, they're fortune tellers, they're travellers, they're scary, they're evil, they're greedy, they're cruel, they have dark skin, they look like they were eyeliner, their hair is ratty and dirty, they deserve to die. And considering that they were considered to be 'scum of the earth' do you really think that the police would cause that much of a fuss over one getting killed. I mean, seriously, why did they think it was ok to use this many stereotypes? Does no-one see how hypocritical this is? I mean it's bad enough that everyone looks over the mental and emotional abuse and manipulation he puts Christine through because it's 'romantic' to take advantage of a girls misery over her fathers death and let her think he was her fathers spirit watching over her and demanding her obedience in everything right down to who she can and can't see, but then they add racism to the mix? Yes, I'm sorry for him that he went through that, but that wasn't even in the original book, why was this so necessary? Besides, the revelation scene in 'The Elephant Man' was much better.

@Didisnsis

Жыл бұрын

Show me where the wacism hurt you😂

bis story is just so sad so you can look at me like we did before and the then when the first man around as a child and he becomes one archiCAD bed has a composer and your magician

Does anyone know where the version of All I Ask Of You in the very end after the clip came from? Is it a live performance version and is there a way to get it?

@nicolebenson705

8 жыл бұрын

It is the movie version

This scene was kinda pointless when he was actually unmasked. He just needed some aloe

@sundus928

2 жыл бұрын

😭😂😂 YEP but imagine his disfigurement as The Elephant Man , he was also a circus freak and it make sense why.

2:08 kill the man who hit you.

So the film was set in 1870 (despite the fact there were no signs of the siege of Paris occurring in the movie, as the city was under attack by the Prussians in that year) and the Phantom was about thirty (a guess I suppose but about that) - the child phantom in the flashback was about ten? So that makes it 1850. The Paris Opera House was not even designed until 1860, and it wasn't open for business until 1875, five years after the events of this film. Why they changed the dates amazes me - it added nothing to the film to set it in 1870 rather than 1880 when the book was set. Research costs nothing!

interessant,liesst das jemand aus meine klasse? ^_^ 9B