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@ubisoftcaveira8303

3 жыл бұрын

The Last of Us Part II 4 million......

@Slyarno2795

3 жыл бұрын

It goes on to receive one of the worst games of 2020.

@baskkev7459

3 жыл бұрын

They are going after things on the game that are false. The sjw hate is real, your fellow KZreadrs have said it was forced, bad etc. And they hate it because you do play as a different hero. It never said on the tin that it was a game you play as person x.... Hell all the marketing showed clearly what was going to happen. They are right about 1 thing... The story.. The writing is new star wars movie bad. But all the trolls and bigots who gave it a 1 are wrong. But so are the 10 out of 10 critics. Game wise it's a 9 for sure. Story wise a 5. So let's call it a weak 7 or a strong 6 out of 10.

@heathmcgee1599

3 жыл бұрын

What about people not being able to return their day one copies and not being able to trade in games at GameStop all of a sudden?

@bossalinedezz

3 жыл бұрын

THE LAST OF TRANS PART 2 🤢🤮 YOUR'RE A SHILL !!

They wanted the story to be so much about hate that people literally hated the game. They nailed it

@michielvanmol3529

3 жыл бұрын

Top ten anime plot twists

@TheTariqibnziyad

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, that's why it's the greatest story ever.

@TheTariqibnziyad

3 жыл бұрын

@Chase Jordan exactly.

@billysanderson4921

3 жыл бұрын

@Chase Jordan dunning kruger effect in action people!

@billysanderson4921

3 жыл бұрын

@Ali Shabbiri People who Imply Others are Stupid are Usually Insecure About Their Own Intelligence lmao

"...no one loves these characters more than we do" "So anyways I started golfing"

@avallonemuzic5732

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@interceptingfist5682

3 жыл бұрын

This is honestly the first good golf joke I've read.

@etam8099

3 жыл бұрын

LMAO🤣🤣🤣

@strakk

3 жыл бұрын

the memes are the best

@Dragonage2ftw

3 жыл бұрын

Cringey.

"Its a story about right and wrong written by people who think they're always right" - A Japanese fan

@Ol_eg

3 жыл бұрын

there is no wrong or right in this game at all, just people who have their own point of view on the situation sorry for my English

@_Yohanan

3 жыл бұрын

Why do they "think they're always right"?... I'm honestly confused... the game is very morally ambiguous.

@rupertacuesta

3 жыл бұрын

@@_Yohanan that's very true, but Joel's decision has been made; he moves on with it.

@7331warrior

3 жыл бұрын

Jokeré i think that’s the point of an ambiguous story of moral.

@7331warrior

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you, it shows how an apocalypse changes people of all backgrounds to think they are in the right or what they convince themself to do for self preservation.

Older Games: "Oh, can't wait to play this game." Newer Games: "Oh, can't wait to see how they fuck this one up."

@hollowman9410

3 жыл бұрын

Cyberpunk 2077, Fallout 76. Atom heart, I don't think it's going to be bad, but my expectations are low (I have learned my lesson).

@ArberArapi

2 жыл бұрын

@@hollowman9410 that aged well

@edwardsanchez3708

2 жыл бұрын

Same for tv show reboots and remakes

@johnathonjackson7343

2 жыл бұрын

Bro I feel you there I literally can't get excited for new games anymore because I'm always expecting the worst by these big money hungry companies. The only games thatre actually good to play are passion project games that have just a couple of creators.

@Riqq44

2 жыл бұрын

@@hollowman9410 holy shit this aged well 😭💀

“The Last of Us is about these two characters specifically.” *plays half the game as Abby*

@justyouraveragefluff2298

3 жыл бұрын

Lil more than half it feels like

@Naim-Lest

3 жыл бұрын

yep that's why this game is called "You lied to us"

@harrynguyen2503

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure he was talking about the 1st game

@ReckSaber3664

3 жыл бұрын

@@harrynguyen2503 he was talking about the first game. These people dont listen

@harrynguyen2503

3 жыл бұрын

@@ReckSaber3664 more specifically they only like to listen to what they wanna hear

neil: some people won't like the game and that's ok some fans: we didn't like the game neil: you hate female characters and you are racists we don't want you to buy our games

@dragonslayerornstein387

3 жыл бұрын

Yup saw that live on my twitter feed.

@vash_the_stampede6570

3 жыл бұрын

*WhaT a tWisT*

@sirgorash5704

3 жыл бұрын

Neil the Hypocrite

@Andrew-fq7pu

3 жыл бұрын

Neil is Randy Hickey in In My Name is Earl, when Randy develops a crush on the cat lady but is allergic to cats, and Earl tries to talk sense into him. It isn't pretty. The only difference is, Randy never told a story as stupid as Neil tells in TLOU2.

@Mrlaneck

3 жыл бұрын

@@megajennybenny as opposed to the majority who have legit criticisms of the game, those few people that you're talking about don't really matter.

"Fans of the first game, have faith in us, we're gonna do right by you" IT SMELLS LIKE LIE IN HERE

@xxmadmax999xx

3 жыл бұрын

All I'm smelling is bullshit and it's giving me hives!!!

@RyvrStyxStreams

3 жыл бұрын

How bout don’t speak for all fans because to be they did amazing and I’ve been in love with the last of us and the franchise since the first game came out

@ironeisen9912

3 жыл бұрын

😤 I smell cap

@Kay_86

3 жыл бұрын

We will never trust you again Neil!

@dariosanchez2557

3 жыл бұрын

I loved the first game and I was hearthbroken when I finished the second one. It's a very cruel game. It forces the player to make very difficult actions. Ultimately the game put me in very emocional state, and I loved it for that. Best game experience I've played ever.

"fans of the first one, trust us" bro, you couldnt even get people who never played the first one to ever trust you again.

@assman7218

3 жыл бұрын

The only way ND can recover some trust is with both Amy Hennig and Bruce Straley returning. Sadly I don't really think that's possible.

@aleksiheija8170

3 жыл бұрын

@@assman7218 AND neil cuckmann being fired for this shitshow

@YoMama9021

3 жыл бұрын

AMEN

@YoMama9021

3 жыл бұрын

They seriously, SERIOUSLY fucked us on this

@supremeworld87

3 жыл бұрын

im sure he really cares about the highly vocal minority of butthurt little sheep who hated the story because they didnt get a rehash of the first game. hes the best writer in the industry, he doesnt care about what you think of his game. he told the story he wanted to tell, that all that matters. if you dont like it then go cry somewhere else

Its like killing Mario and then the game is about Luigi taking revenge but suddently you play Bowser and the game wants you to understand him and then you have to beat the shit out of Luigi with Bowser lol

@twomo1

3 жыл бұрын

Not quite, cause people have come to know and love bowser and he's an already established character. It would more like they kill mario, you play as Luigi, and then they bring in an entirely new and foreign character who has a tumultuous history with the Bros. that the creators pulled out their "warp-pipes.

@carrymywill

3 жыл бұрын

But mario killed bowser's dad..& bowser got revenge on mario. . Luigi is weak.. so that's why bowser its beating the shit out of Luigi lol

@carrymywill

3 жыл бұрын

But fans will say. We love mario. He cant die.. heroes need to survive always.... but this game went into reality for a second.. . Just cause his main character Doesnt mean he will be immortal..

@skeleex

3 жыл бұрын

@@carrymywill Yes but that kinda ruins the point of a game called super mario brothers doesnt it?

@dimensionlesss

3 жыл бұрын

I would play this lol

Oh boy 53 minutes? This is where the fun begins...

@mercenarygundam1487

3 жыл бұрын

Hello there

@CH-re9ed

3 жыл бұрын

Game time started.

@CelestialFalkon

3 жыл бұрын

@@mercenarygundam1487 General Kenobi!

@aidanassenov6640

3 жыл бұрын

CelestialFalkon You are a bold one

@ohnosmoarlulcatz

3 жыл бұрын

You've obviously never seen a Plinkett review

Saw a deleted tweet, and felt that it needed to be kept alive. “TLOU2 is revenge blue-balled.”

@chestor2314

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@Vampwars

3 жыл бұрын

I am a female & I believe this is 100% accurate. Never have I been so emotionally exhausted, aggravated & disappointed with an ending of a video game in my life.

@jimaco0312

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve never had blue balls before... Until I finished tlou2

@gabethyrubenstein7984

Жыл бұрын

that is more or less what the first game was as well, but for saving the world

@bobbynelson5849

5 ай бұрын

@@gabethyrubenstein7984but the first makes sense compared to the second

Ellie’s sexuality is not even remotely an issue. Turning her into a sociopath, and a shitty story is the damn issue.

@rael1999

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Totally unbelievable, turning her into Rambo and removing all of her character traits from the first game. All just done in order to fit a revenge story line and some sanctimonious bullshit that Neil and his team wanted to preach to the fans of the first game. You must have some high opinion of yourself to preach like that from your little holier than thou soapbox.

@6ouiss

2 жыл бұрын

The hell.. people really was mad bout her sexuality 💀?

@danskyl7279

2 жыл бұрын

@@rael1999 Yeah... But at least Rambo you understood why he did what he did (Plus he's War hero and was mistreated). At least Rambo didn't pussy out the last second to kill the main villain. Yea, Rambo didn't killed Teasle but that's bcoz Colonel Trautman.

@datiger39

2 жыл бұрын

@@6ouiss no not really just people who call this mediocre narrative a masterpiece claim that, majority of people just hate the shallow story but people who love it, love it blindly and call anyone who hates it “bigots”

@PhazonEnder

Жыл бұрын

@@datiger39 No, the narrative of the first game was mediocre while it's sequel was just plain awful.

" Never douse the flames when your enemy is a dumpster fire" - Sun Tzu probably

@Bagginsess

3 жыл бұрын

"Never interupt your enemy when they're making a mistake." Napolean

@yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082

3 жыл бұрын

"Prepare for war if you want peace." - Mickey Mouse.

@Happy3D

3 жыл бұрын

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take . " -ᵂᵃʸⁿᵉ ᴳʳᵉᵗᶻᵏʸ -Michael Scott

@fakebunny1272

3 жыл бұрын

"quoting famous people alone wont be enough to heal the world from this SJW pandemic" me

@Dancan799

3 жыл бұрын

yudhi adhyatmiko siswono That wouldn’t surprise me

“We don’t like it because if it’s story.” Game journalists. “Y’all are sexists and don’t like it because of sexual orientation.” When did it not be ok to dislike a game?

@Ray_Adams

3 жыл бұрын

It's this current cess pool society. Where the weak, misguided, heretical fools, avoid accountability, and reality by boxing anything that doesnt suit, or fit their agenda into one of two or three compartmentalized categories. This way they can never be criticized, be required to improve, or re think. It's a futile insufficient exercise designed so that they can refuse to acknowledge failure. It's a sad state of affairs corrupting the core of human beings.

@itatreeneetee

3 жыл бұрын

They're trying to guilt trip us. Lol.

@PLaStiiCMoNtAGE

3 жыл бұрын

For real, I hated Abby and Owen too, so I guess I'm both homophobic and heterophobic lol

@vintermyst5032

3 жыл бұрын

Ever since toxic leftist, cancel-culture took over. The mantra behind it is "Accept and praise our message or be condemned as a bigot, racist, or out-right villain." Sickening

@Faint366

3 жыл бұрын

Have any of you watched videos by the quartering or read the comments there? There’s thousands of people who hate the game because it features lgbt characters

"There was a sequel. Wasn't as good"

@tyleroutland435

3 жыл бұрын

There was a sequel it was amazing

@coryakabueze4541

2 жыл бұрын

Know is was garbage

Whenever someone says "go in open minded and you'll have an experience" that is code for "this will piss you off."

@rubenlopez3364

3 жыл бұрын

Backwards to suggest lowering our expectaions to sort of kinda enjoy the game. Fuck Naughty Dicks

@haileyabley6731

3 жыл бұрын

I went in and pretty much loved the game before I played it and I still was upset.

@sanoichiro

3 жыл бұрын

Just because it pisses you off doesn't make it bad. Perhaps it was a bit above your reading level.

@Wesker10000

3 жыл бұрын

Only if you've a closed mind :)

@JesusChrist-bq6lu

3 жыл бұрын

sanoichiro people can have different opinions and thoughts personally I hate the story of part 2 but adore the gameplay especially the rat king boss fight it’s so cool how they can make you feel so helpless and afraid during the whole thing uncertain when it will strike Part 1 was perfect in terms of story, gameplay, characters, character development and ending nothing will ever come close to how this game made me feel especially during the winter and escape the city chapters This is my opinion.

Joels character certaintly is left open minded

@greysonmartina8492

3 жыл бұрын

John Royal 🤣🤣🤣

@greysonmartina8492

3 жыл бұрын

Too soon man :p

@ULTIMATEGOOSE01

3 жыл бұрын

oof

@TzarBomb

3 жыл бұрын

I see what you did there.

@namelessbeanie423

3 жыл бұрын

Man I hate you for making me laugh at Joel’s death. But also, very clever.

Kratos: after killing all the gods i will forgive you zeus because revenge is bad

@heat_of_the_cold

3 жыл бұрын

Yes that’s exactly what i had been thinking of

@DerfelCadarn81

3 жыл бұрын

❤

@philly_sports1558

3 жыл бұрын

Or John Marston at the end of RDR2: "Hey Micah, I know you betrayed my friend Arthur and I have murdered dozens of people to get to you. But now I've suddenly realized that senseless violence and revenge are bad."

@Pokerking4128

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah because Kratos likewise was having trembling hands and other symptoms of disgust over his own actions.

@josephmoore5422

3 жыл бұрын

@@Pokerking4128 huh?

The devs hated working on this game about as much as I hated playing it.

@aidan7631

3 жыл бұрын

That’s what bugs me most about the game. Personally I though the game was neither terrible nor a masterpiece, it’s just somewhere in the middle. But hearing about how much the employees hated working on the game, but were forced to keep going pissed me off more than the game.

@jugsofmalk9987

3 жыл бұрын

I give it a 4.9/10

“There are going to be people who played the first that won’t like the second” YOU DON’T SAY?!?!

@chrishusted9296

3 жыл бұрын

Right? Coming after saying shit like "we know people loved the first one and we want to do right by them". Its pretty clear they either can't write worth shit or they never cared about fans of the first to begin with.

@spreadwuvokay

3 жыл бұрын

If knowing about the lore before this game makes the next game less enjoyable maybe there's a problem with it.

@t.haenssgen8333

3 жыл бұрын

@@spreadwuvokay I loved Part 2. But maybe that might be, because I never played or fully watched Part 1. I just find Part 2 is a masterpeace for it's own.

@filmnationstudios389

3 жыл бұрын

T. Haenssgen You’re an idiot.

@diogofaisca5027

3 жыл бұрын

@@filmnationstudios389 He has the right to have his opinion tho, actually idk why people hate tlou 2, most of the haters are blinded by the most famous people that streamed the game and didnt like the game.

TLOU3: Random Ethiopian kid wants revenge on Abby for not finishing her food. Edit: Holy shit guys I'm glad some of you share my dark humor! My Grandma used to always give me shit as a kid for not finishing my food. She'd point to a laminated news clipping on the wall about the starving kids in Third World countries.

@natpat4094

3 жыл бұрын

Lmaooo

@elizabethcomstock6038

3 жыл бұрын

And a side plot with Miss Man wanting her steroids back.

@naurthanks6122

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@PassportGaming

3 жыл бұрын

LMAOO💀 I’m Ethiopian and I laughed my balls off. That plot would still be better than what we got in part 2

@lachazaroony

3 жыл бұрын

And he`ll be a trans, lesbian, bi, tri gendered Vegan, who thinks there are too many white males running things.

"I just ask fans of the first game to trust us" I did... and I am sad to say I was very disappointed...

@BeyondCashed

3 жыл бұрын

Sucks to be you

@bimmerguy9274

3 жыл бұрын

BeyondCashed I know so many butt hurt people about a video game lmao. TLOU2 was phenomenal.

@youngveggies6558

3 жыл бұрын

@@bimmerguy9274 Well that's your opinion. I personally think it was dog shit. Just my experience.

@KayJ2012

3 жыл бұрын

I went in completely spoiler free, and the game lost me when Abby got Raw Dogged from the back from a character they were shoving down our throats to like

@jet100a

3 жыл бұрын

You trusting a company is where you made your mistake.

At the end of the day, this game was just a miserable experience. The original game was very dark and depressing but it still had plenty of sweet, heartwarming moments and the development of a beautiful father-daughter relationship between a man who lost everything and a teenage girl who gave him hope again. There always was a glimmer of light in the darkness that was the original Last of Us. The sequel is nothing but heartbreak, loss, and despair. I know that was the point, but it doesn't make it good.

@fgdh2460

3 жыл бұрын

And it doesn't make it bad.

@philly_sports1558

3 жыл бұрын

I mean it kinda does make it bad. At the end of the day, video games are supposed to be fun and entertaining regardless of how dark and serious the story is. You can watch sad movies like Schindler's List and Green Mile and still be entertained by them. I don't really see the point of playing a video game that purposely makes you feel like a bad person for playing it. It's pretty manipulative.

@noelaliu368

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@itspossiblyvertigo1232

3 жыл бұрын

@@philly_sports1558 shut up lol, not every experience is supposed to be a good one. The game teaches you a lesson. That lesson is that an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. And really the only way to really drive that point in is with a dark and depressing story.

@lordofcinder1169

3 жыл бұрын

@@itspossiblyvertigo1232 I saw what you did there with the lol bruh naw this game is bad dude

“How could these people hate these characters when they worked on this game for 7 years??!!” Well again, 70% of the company left lol

@jameslanier2510

2 жыл бұрын

70% of a single department left over a period of 5 years due to crunch. One even said that the game was damn good. The crunch and work conditions are a serious problem, but don't misrepresent the struggle for these workers by claiming that the workers had issues with the story. That wasn't the case.

@ollehkacb

2 жыл бұрын

@@jameslanier2510 I think what the op is saying is that the majority of the staff were not the original developers and thus would have no qualms with butchering the characters.

@jameslanier2510

2 жыл бұрын

@@ollehkacb The director of Part 2 literally created the characters.

@HOWEZY4769

Жыл бұрын

​@@jameslanier2510 he was co director of the first. The other director left for the second leaving Neil druckman free reign to live his own fan fiction

@milacruz3970

6 ай бұрын

Hahah exactly. Now we can tell who were the ones responsible for the great game the first one was.

"so what's new?" "jumping" "what about the story?" Silence .........

@ghostwalkergames7707

3 жыл бұрын

Haha too true.

@Rei-bg3rf

3 жыл бұрын

"Flashback"

@matthewoneill2701

3 жыл бұрын

Well basically having next gen graphics is pretty amazing, as well as amazing sound design. The story on the other hand........

@thelongertheiconofsinisone6570

3 жыл бұрын

and mechanics, and upgrades, and perks, and enemy types. Story sucked, sure. But yeah. Just sayin.

@gcon.807

3 жыл бұрын

Knowledge, Well, replay the og and then play the 2nd, the combat felt much clunkier than the 1st.

Isn't it sad that Joel's flashback cutscenes feel more alive than the characters throughout the rest of the game?

@vr-vik5660

3 жыл бұрын

You are right Mixi, Mixi!! The story father and daughter was so amazing in the original TLOU....That's the way it should have been in the sequel.......But instead players are forced to play with Abby!

@solofade7524

3 жыл бұрын

@@vr-vik5660 I really enjoyed playing as abby. Speak for yourself

@nexus.accounts

3 жыл бұрын

@The Bounty Hunters people like you are the reason the world is a dark place

@vr-vik5660

3 жыл бұрын

@@solofade7524 Congratulations mate, good for you.....Abby will continue being an awful character for the ages to come...!!

@vyrenvygolo2429

3 жыл бұрын

@@vr-vik5660 I enjoyed smashing people as Abby. I couldnt care less for anyone in the game. I wish the cutscenes where skipable it would have made the game better.

“The people who didn’t play the first game, would love the second game” I haven’t even seen or played TLOU1 and i still hated the second one. bouta go watch TLOU1 now.

@ashkhri

3 жыл бұрын

if youve already watched the first one, how was it?

@ashkhri

3 жыл бұрын

@JamesHLanier Please dont insult people like us whove played both games and still disliked the second one. A lot of people have written very comprehensive reasons as to why they dislike it, if you really want to understand i can link one of them to you

@nathanzhou1162

3 жыл бұрын

seems like you haven't even played the game

@gautamg9175

3 жыл бұрын

@@ashkhri I played it years back and it's great definitely worth playing :)

@ashkhri

3 жыл бұрын

@@gautamg9175 I played it around the time it came out and you're right it was lovely

Developers - "Nobody cares about these characters more than us." Also Developers - "Hehe Joel's head goes splat splat." Finally Developers - "It's a masterpiece."

@debrh.b

9 ай бұрын

People that say it's a masterpiece , please stay away from my toilet because we have different views of what a masterpiece is .

Do you remember the time there were leaks that Druckmann wanted to kill off Nathan Drake in Uncharted 4 and that's Why Amy Hennig was forced out? Because Pepperidge Farm remembers. The way TLOU2 worked out was just a hold over of what he wanted to do since Uncharted 4. Seems he's really been wanting to use that shock tactic for a while now...

@KwameBruceBusia

3 жыл бұрын

@your face reminds me when I stepped on a burrito 3 then this would have been a great opportunity to tell us what DID happen then.

@capitatecab6049

3 жыл бұрын

Did he really?

@wxhammii6922

3 жыл бұрын

Tlou 1 is aletas going to be the best since the 2 is really shit

@moodyowlproductions4287

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah and the shock tactic it did not work.....not on the last of us part two....it did not work

@Sgt_ioiwsl

2 жыл бұрын

Thank god that’s not what happened to my boy Nate, the PSP uncharted game is the only game you can play here on site and the thousands of people would be sad to see Nate die

Hearing Druckmann say that some of the play testers actually hated the game makes all of the reviews that initially came out all that questionable. He flat out admits that some people didn't like the game, but ALL of the reviewers were calling it a "masterpiece"? Something definitely doesn't add up.

@UsonoHoushi

3 жыл бұрын

Base on a few gaming journalist who were honest and suffered for it by the company they worked for. It's very clearl that many of the positives were threatened. Not physically but mostly because of FOMO. the fear of being black listed and not getting a game review needing to wait for the games to be out for everyone. It's first come, first serve and people will do anything to stay ahead.

@MGrabowski70

3 жыл бұрын

I am a normal gamer and fan of the first game and I love part 2. Not afraid to defend it either looking for valid criticism but so much I’ve seen has come off as hollow.

@faboo2001

3 жыл бұрын

@@MGrabowski70 I'm actually a huge fan of the first game, so it's sad to hear how divisive the second one is. And funny thing with the "come off as hollow" comment, that's how I feel with all of the reviews that raved about the game prior to release. Most of them have done a poor job to explain how the game could be a masterpiece and deliberately avoid talking about the game's narrative.

@faboo2001

3 жыл бұрын

@@UsonoHoushi Yeah I get the impression that this is one of those games where reviewers for gaming websites have to give it a positive score, or end up being ridiculed or blacklisted as a result. A perfect example I can think of is the game "Gone Home". Reviewers were put into a tough spot where they kinda had to rave about it because it addressed LGBT issues and saying anything critical about the game itself could be taken the wrong way. However when players got their hands on it, they called it a "walking simulator" in a derogatory manner.

@KadayiPolokov

3 жыл бұрын

@@MGrabowski70 You can't be looking very hard given there are plenty of youtube videos out there articulating at length and in detail people many issues with the games narrative both in terms of structure, characterisation and plot.

Lol. Did Neil Drunkman just says "Fans of the first game aren't going to like the second game and people who never played the first game are going to love the second game"

@Vaultboy101

3 жыл бұрын

Just like the Disney Star Wars movies, they don't give a shit about the existing fans as they think they're so into the franchise they will eat it up.

@Wesker10000

3 жыл бұрын

@@Vaultboy101 When a story teller starts fretting over what fans want that's when the art starts to suck.

@Tkara8

3 жыл бұрын

I loved the first and second game. Y’all are just babies that can’t see past your “beloved character” dying. And focus on what the story is really about.

@tixnofal0971

3 жыл бұрын

KaraCookies88 You’re one of those, it’s sad...

@sentinal_entity

3 жыл бұрын

@@Vaultboy101 Damn if this isn't the truth. I swear most (not all) hardcore fans of The Sequel Trilogy are either casual fans or not even legitimate fans of star wars at all in regards to being familiar with the lore that the previous films/games/shows built.

The last of us 1 ending scene is too much to watch. The writing is so powerful

@voidziqr

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a damn lie

@floppedforrealsies

3 жыл бұрын

@@voidziqr oh no i dont know which side you on

@xozach7062

3 жыл бұрын

Mr. Cactuar sorry tlou2 is the most basic plot ever, dont get it twisted

@zhaolang1215

3 жыл бұрын

Japan hates the Game and the returns are at 80% lol

@wayneberry6012

3 жыл бұрын

lol the ending of last of us 1 was taken straight from a movie called the road with vigo mortneson

it’s like they expected us to forget about first game after 7 years. BOY THEY WAS WRONG

@jordanc587

3 жыл бұрын

i feel like the people that hated this game did forget the first game, how it ended.

@zionsimanian9310

3 жыл бұрын

Jordan C you’re in all these comments defending the game huh? Care to explain why? I’d like to put you on the spot like you have done to others. Go ahead, enlighten us all as to why this game deserves a better response from the community

@ImfernusRizen

2 жыл бұрын

@@zionsimanian9310 It's been a year bro I don't think he coming lmao

@berimar5675

2 жыл бұрын

were*

@blaniac6591

2 жыл бұрын

@@jordanc587 we’re waiting…

The moronic thing ND protectors say is "You're just mad they killed Joel". 99% of people expected Joel to die in the sequel. It made sense for Ellie to grow, as we were pretty aware we'll be in control of her, for the most part in a TLoU sequel, that was never the problem. Even Ellie finding out about what really happened in the hospital and being mad at him, all story beats that make sense, he's not a saint we all understand what he did was morally wrong, but there's a reason people say that he was treated very disrespectfully, he died like a fukcing clicker you stab in a basement trying to beat a level. And on top of that, you get 10 hours of gameplay as the woman who killed him. It was such a mess of wrong decision after wrong decision.

@malbosc1087

28 күн бұрын

Even clickers you stab them swiftly you dont torture them 15 min with à golf club

I remember the God of War writers saying that they started to get carried with all kinds of ideas. But realized that they were getting too far from the main premise, almost stranding into sequel territory.

@asadbhatti4506

Жыл бұрын

They realized it but naughty dog didn't they got carried away

This game makes me feel like im playing as micah after killing arthur

@angelaricci4878

3 жыл бұрын

pret much

@Algastar

3 жыл бұрын

@Hfghbb Jggv way better

@firepunchman

3 жыл бұрын

At least I liked a bit micah, *but I hate Abby so much*

@abi21891

3 жыл бұрын

@@firepunchman I'm curious how you found even one redeemable quality about Micah, lol.

@H3YB33ZY

3 жыл бұрын

Hfghbb Jggv her personality is reminiscent of a soggy bread roll

Pretty unbelievably sad that the only thing about this game met with universal acclaim is the options menu...

@adammohammed2185

3 жыл бұрын

Very true, hopefully more games adopt that style of accessibility.

@billbillinger2117

3 жыл бұрын

Gameplay: pretty much exactly the same Graphics: Great improvement Sound: Pretty solid Story: ...Punishingly lazy and nonsensical to the point where merely having to suffer through the plot makes you just reinstall the original and play that instead.

@defaulted9485

3 жыл бұрын

Probably an artifact from the previous devs before they left.

@MrSwitchblade327

3 жыл бұрын

@@megajennybenny why would you set out to make a game you know the fanbase will hate to begin with?

@MrNickguy1

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. They wanted to make a game the fans hated, they achieved that frankly moronic goal. Pre-orders ensured rapid initial sales but actual gamer reviews will kill follow on sales and any possibility of a third game because having been lied to and deceived so contemptuously, no-one will pre-order a third game and Druckman would have to admit he was wrong. That kind of fevered ego will never do that.

These people need to be reminded that we are more than just "fans." We are consumers, customers, people who give them money. I am not telling them to snuff their creativity for the sake of making money, rather they need to have their creative endeavors begin matching the sort of universal appeal that will make their customers desire their product.

@fgdh2460

3 жыл бұрын

And that is pretty stupid...best way to produce the common shit producers give us all the time.

@kamageddynvideochannel3479

2 жыл бұрын

Um no would would you want people telling artist what too paint

@gottesurteil3201

2 жыл бұрын

@@kamageddynvideochannel3479 if I'm going to buy the painting then yes.

@shelbydewever7017

2 жыл бұрын

There are plenty of games that do this already. Go play any Ubisoft or EA or Activision game if you want a game designed for mass appeal. It is clear Naughty Dog had a story in mind for this game and they told it the way they wanted. As someone who loves Part 2, I can 100% understand how some people would dislike, or even hate it. What I can't understand though are the people telling Naughty Dog that they should have catered to any one group of people when making their game. Druckmann was clear that people wouldn't like it and that is because they knew they were making a non-typical story.

@yveltalpoderoso1303

2 жыл бұрын

I can’t definitely say that part 2 was not a crash grab , sometimes good writers make mistakes and good stories not always come out , Neil wrote the first one and he deserves praise for that game , not videos telling he is a sell out , Neil just believed in the story he wanted to tell and it just didn’t work

“Dani kinda forgot about the iron fleet” lol 😆

@Angrymonkey2489

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know what's WORSE: GOT's short season 8 Or TLOU2 entire plotline

"Go in open minded" is just an admission to me that you KNEW people were going to be unhappy with the story. Being open minded never makes me appreciate what I see as bad story telling. And telling me to play a game like that only makes me step back and feel like YOU don't have faith in this game.

@nickrelax1

3 жыл бұрын

Or they knew they would challenge hoe you felt about characters in the game. They said that people are gonna be mixed about this game wayyy before troy said that. It wasn't out of fear that they said that. They said it because it's the story they wanted to make. That wanted to. Lets say fill in the paintings that are the characters in the game even deeper than before. You have every right to be skeptical but to say its because their game was gonna flop and they knew it is an unbelievable reach.

@tyleremmert7045

3 жыл бұрын

I disagree with that statement. Telling people to have an open mind can be a very important statement. We've become so used to things going our way and stories being practically written for us. I think we NEED to be more open minded. And more accepting to the fact that there are things in life that arent going to go our way and aren't fair. Its real. And its ballsy. I respect that.

@Zaixven

3 жыл бұрын

@@nickrelax1 I disagree that that's an unbelievable reach, the director stated himself that he contemplated the risk of even making a sequel to his highly successful first game because of the possibility of it being poorly received by fans. And even said he also shared fans worries in regards to writing a sequel and making a mistake. It's clearly from a place of fear and i'm not necessarily faulting him for that. If I happened to make a critically acclaimed story and had to face the challenge of writing a sequel to it I would be absolutely terrified. But them constantly stating in retrospect that it will divide people and they need to be open minded completely indicates to me that they themselves were not secure in what they produced. Also I never stated it would flop, it's a massive franchise and would likely have sold very well regardless of if people dislike it or not.

@nickrelax1

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zaixven the open minded aspect is what I mean they knew jow the story was going to affect people and how they would feel towards it because they feel the same way. Its just saying prepare to not have everything be going your way. In which a lot of people didnt want to even do that. I red the comment above and they make a good point that i thought previously. Imagine every game has a story that goes exactly the way you want it and every character you hate dies violently and every character you love lives for eternity. It gets boring but it's what you want. For people that expect to change that kind of thing they are like we are experimenting with something different than what you are used to so keep an open mind.

@Zaixven

3 жыл бұрын

​@@nickrelax1 Shocking unexpected death is not new in any way to storytelling. They themselves used it in the opening of the first game with Joel's daughter. The difference is that in the first game it was executed better. Joel's death as I mentioned earlier is not an issue, how he died is. The disconnection is poor writing, not the concept of what they wanted to do. When you outline a story and say, "How do we get this character where he needs to be to kill him off?" you have to consider what kind of death you want that character to have. If you have to compromise a character's previously established qualities to make them do something to fit the story, you have failed.

ah yes philosophical questions like "do i like killing this dog now that I know its name is Bear" yes. yes i do

@enviro7673

3 жыл бұрын

The only dog your forced to kill is Alice, I went the whole game without killing any other dog, which would include my dude bear.

@dmpg1994

3 жыл бұрын

All I have to say here is lol

@countdooku3373

3 жыл бұрын

​@@PendantKeychains That's incredulous, and hilarious.

@jordanc587

3 жыл бұрын

ah then this game shows you that you have something in common with all the people who hate it; you lack empathy.

@StopCallingMeShirley1180

3 жыл бұрын

Jordan C Sure, consider everyone who disagrees with you about a fucking video game unempathetic. That’s an excellent defense of the game. 👍😒

The Dr. Uckmann card was pretty ... prettttyyy.. prettttyyyyyyy cringey.

@madalindragan7722

3 жыл бұрын

So is your comment!

@lastmanstanding7155

3 жыл бұрын

@@madalindragan7722 No u

@oisinosborne4154

3 жыл бұрын

Have you played a Hideo kojima he was been putting himself in his video game for years and Neil is a big fan of Hideos. Also the old bait and switch is a trick foundly used by Kojima so it nothing we haven't seen before.

@soulofdeath9303

3 жыл бұрын

@@oisinosborne4154 but at least he didn't renamed himself lol

@gustavohuehue7460

3 жыл бұрын

@@soulofdeath9303 it's suposed to ve an easter egg, not actually him in the game.

Never have I switched from respecting to despising somebody so quickly like I do Druckmann.

@henreebee6561

3 жыл бұрын

I definitely don’t despise him. I reserve that level of hate for you know... actual bad people, not someone who’s art I didn’t like lol. But I did lose a lot of faith in his storytelling ability with this game.

@MrNickguy1

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, despise him, his behaviour, both prior to the game’s release, lying to and actively deceiving fans in order to secure their pre-order money and since, accusing all those who say anything against it as being stupid, misogynistic, homophobic, trans-phobic bigots is deserving of that at the very least.

@henreebee6561

3 жыл бұрын

MrNickguy1 - lying to fans? You mean by not telling us Abby is a main part of the game? I mean, I don’t mind that- it would have ruined the surprise. I don’t think he was doing that just to get our money. It’s just too bad the surprise kinda sucked.

@PassportGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Henree Bee Not to mention he forced out Amy, Bruce Straley, most of the naughty dog staff, and overworks his employees to the point of hating their jobs. Like the guy in the video showed us

@gabethyrubenstein7984

Жыл бұрын

wow, over a video game no less. he still has your sixty bucks

Naruto's Pain Arc does the whole circle of hatred narrative better.

@Lucky-fs7xz

3 жыл бұрын

True but there is no comparison because last of us 2 is just bad at telling a story

@jacksonmay153

3 жыл бұрын

don't forget Kratos

@elvismatilde6630

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacksonmay153 God Of War did it way better than this sorry excuse for a sequel

@tails183

3 жыл бұрын

Never seen it, still agree.

@Captain_Chromosome

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Arthur

4:35 “it’s about hate and how we make the player feel that” Well you certainly accomplished that.

@GOffensive

3 жыл бұрын

He did. Unintelligent people like you weren't able to understand the story though. Can't create art when people like you are too dense to get it.

@lukescrew1981

3 жыл бұрын

@@GOffensive You think you're very smart don't you?

@mauriandlaw

3 жыл бұрын

@@GOffensive I bet he was very intelligent when he loved the first game..... that was fine...wasn't it ??...... It is really out the realm of possibilities that this story is fucking trash.... that's right, he doesn't know how to appreciate "ART"...... You are an idiot !!!!

@jsonmac319

3 жыл бұрын

@@GOffensive you really think this game has a super complex story? Plot twist: it doesn't. Everything is presented open wide to the player, nothing is held back, nothing is hiding in the shadows. Everything is thrown at your face, like seeing the villain of the story petting a dog and trying desperately for you to like her. You think you're so smart like that and didn't realized the story tries to manipulate your feelings in the dumbest way possible? Well, then I have a bad news for you.

@stevetheiii477

3 жыл бұрын

@@jsonmac319 exactly, the game is ridiculous in the way they try to make the audience empathize with Abby's character by giving her a storyline with the scars outcasts, like who gives af abby's half of the game was so irrelevant and such a waste of time the way they executed it was trying to hard, her character was all over the place, its sad that the game forces us to play a character who's already crossed the border very early in the game

The biggest problem was that it took 7 years of development, which apparently was enough time for them to overthink the story and fate of the characters for the second installment rather than just making a simple sequel game. I'd always choose the simple, mediocre story that makes sense, over the outrageous and grandiose story that tries to teach you a lesson most people already have a grasp on.

@anneshepard

3 жыл бұрын

The fact he says he rather have people hating the game than thinking "it was ok" made me sick. The classic "love or hate me but give me views and attention" bs

@gabethyrubenstein7984

Жыл бұрын

"simple sequel game" what does this even mean? the first game had death by suicide, explosion, attempted sexual assault (and even some sexual assault" and allowing the world to die because Joel wanted to save the person he loved. how could you possibly make a "simple squel game?" like most fans, you just didn't like the story that was told

@YTuseraL2694

9 ай бұрын

​​@@gabethyrubenstein7984you didn't like the story that was told" and that's... Bad? Really? You're only allowed to like the game that was told to be legit, is that it? Wtf. As for Joel "dooming" the world, for one, world isalready beyond saying, figuratively or literally. Secondly, for anyone with brains to reject or at least see through Drucky's blatant retcons, vaccine was never guaranteed in the first place, and even had it been made, would likely have solved close to nothing.

If Bruce did stay this game would’ve been better

@Inressa

3 жыл бұрын

@Fuhe Yu Literally zero evidence.

@wxhammii6922

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@zakimubarak7862

3 жыл бұрын

@Fuhe Yu Bruce aint falling for any of the feminist at play

@canvas_125

3 жыл бұрын

@@Inressa are you kidding me? Drunkman wanted to make Tess the villain and Bruce was there to keep him in check. Simple Google search. Bruce and the ones who left Drunkman were the real geniuses of the first game.

@Dr.Oofers

3 жыл бұрын

@@canvas_125 Might be why there is such a tone shift between the first game and second game.

they vilianize the main characters, while using cheap tricks and manipulation to prop up abby. they purges anyone that didnt bent the knee to have constructive criticism or criticism in general naughty dog has lost all credibility and joined the long list of Devs that dont deserve day 1 purchase

@lloydcaskenette1095

3 жыл бұрын

Could not agree more

@tierk4328

3 жыл бұрын

But the world of The Last of Us has never been about 'heroes and villains' the world is about anti-heroes and morality. To me it is very reminiscent of Neo-Westerns like 'Hell or High Water' and 'No Country for Old Men' TLOU2 takes tropes from the genre and implements them into the game. For example the 'Kick the Dog' trope which is seen in westerns in order for the audience to distinguish the villain. They did this in RDR2 with Micah and Cain (Jack Marston's dog) which Micah abuses and literally kicks. This is meant to foreshadow that Micah was a villain. In Neo-Westerns this trope is meant to demonstrate that someone is an anti-hero whos morals are grey. I actually enjoyed Abby as a character too but not at the start. I think when Lev and Yara were introduced I began to get more interested in her story. I agree that there is stuff wrong with the game and genuine criticisms such as the pacing of the story, etc. But you cannot deny that there is also a shit load of people hating on it because there are LGBT characters in the game. I read a shit tone of reviews on meta critic and a lot of them called the game SJW garbage for doing that.

@johnathanera5863

3 жыл бұрын

@Iain Steele I've seen the rebuttal. Its pathetic lol. The game is shit. Deal with it.

@defaulted9485

3 жыл бұрын

@@tierk4328 Good luck justifying killing your own saviour.

@Barbarossa97

3 жыл бұрын

That is why uncharted 4 was already trash because the ghew Druckmann was responsible

the switch to another character has "proved to be somewhat controversial". Understatement much?

@Steeze9369

3 жыл бұрын

Dead space 2 eh? I see you’re a man of culture

@fluidwolf

3 жыл бұрын

@The Man vs PC The problem with the switch to Abby is basically completely down to her being made an unredeemable monster to the player almost immediately then having the game try to manipulate the players emotions afterwards.

This game was a slap in the face and will always be remembered that way.

All I can say is I'll probably never look at part 2 again. Gonna go replay TLOU and pretend this never happened.

@solja4christ187

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds very much like Terminator Dark Fate. Forget Dark Fate and stay with Terminator 2 😉

@dm3402

3 жыл бұрын

BRO! I knew TLOU was an amazing game but I never saw it. Just like Game of Thrones, just like Breaking Bad I've hopped on it a good bit after it finished (idk why, im lazy and still play skyrim/minecraft a lot) And I feel so secured playing TLOU right now not knowing or experiencing Part 2 personally at all. feelgudman

@the_albino_rhino6125

3 жыл бұрын

@@dm3402 take it from pretty much anyone who ACTUALLY loves the first game, the second one is not worth the money. Complete disappointment in the story all around. TLOU is my all time favorite game. Part 2 was the biggest let down ever

@apizcyril9479

3 жыл бұрын

@@dm3402 i'll call a doctor for you.

@blackjack67576

3 жыл бұрын

You're crazy. Part 2 does EVERYTHING bigger and better than the 1st one.

"The Last of Us is about these two characters" kills one and have us play for half the game as the person who killed him "We're gonna do right by them" YOU DIDNT

@linasaha3690

3 жыл бұрын

4:17 Exactly "The Last of Us" not part 2

@MrSoBitchy

3 жыл бұрын

Lina Saha lol cause part 2 is not a part of TLOU

@ylvam.3917

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrSoBitchy dito. no more words needed. tlou2 is not in the lore of the franchise.

@DecimalD_

3 жыл бұрын

Right !! Neil Druckman and even Troy Baker were trying so hard to defend the game and act like they did right by the fans. Not at all.

@jameswatsonatheistgamer

3 жыл бұрын

@@ylvam.3917 SJW fiction.

Crazy how he said some fans of the first game won’t like the second game. And he’s okay with that. His (and the studio he represents) reaction doesn’t reflect that. Not only that, why wouldn’t you want the 14 million people who bought the first game and loved it to love the second game??

@zynostik5873

3 жыл бұрын

Cause "cYclE oF vIoLeNcE"

@6ixlxrd

3 жыл бұрын

What I want to know is why did he explicitly say he wanted players to "passionately hate" his game, then flip around and do a 360 the moment players started hating this game, as he wanted? He created it to be "controversial" then gets upset that it became controversial because he suddenly wants people without brains to call it a "GOTY 10/10 Masterpiece". Tf is he on?

@angryKleiner

3 жыл бұрын

I notice a trend lately, really. 1) A sequel eboot is made 2) Warning signs in pre-release interviews. "It's not made for old fans" "We don't need X group of people to like it" "It's a story about X empowerment" 3) The release is a dumpster fire of crummy writing, character butchering and fanfic-level drama. 4) Several sjw-pleasing characters are tacked in as cheap, disposable protection against any criticism, screeching and pointing fingers at critics ensue. Tell me if that sounds eerily familiar and applies to way too many catastrophic releases in recent years...

@bielawski24

3 жыл бұрын

Because Neil Druckmann is a smug leftist who’s more concerned with pushing an agenda over rewarding his loyal fans with the game we all wanted.

@nikobellic9010

3 жыл бұрын

Because Cuckmann wanted to appeal his ego. He thinks that he created a masterpiece when it just doesn't work

I went into the game completely unspoiled and ready to love it, and I was so thoroughly disappointed at the middle through the end I cannot bring myself to play it a second time for all the secrets and enjoy the gorgeous graphics. It is a bankrupt for a narrative-driven experience.

If you havent played it and you dont know what its about, ill break it down: Its about an 85 pound Special Ops/Green Beret/Spetnazz/Assassin/John Wick/Professional Merc Lesbian, who makes Rambo look like a pussy. She can literally take on 30 armed men and win easily, yet they send an army to take over a town when she could easily have done it alone, as she proves time and again throughout the game. Her motive is an insatiable need to revenge kill the She Hulk who killed the beloved character from the first game who for some reason is a fucking idiot in this game, insta trusting strangers, giving his name with no skepticism at all. When she finally gets the chance to kill her mortal enemy, she doesnt, then years later ruins her good life to go after Hulk again, only to let her live, so she can go back to see she lost everything with no gain. 10/10

@alexderby7701

3 жыл бұрын

Stretched over 20-30 hours

@no1nova226

3 жыл бұрын

A master piece 👌

@a_loyal_kiwi88

3 жыл бұрын

enjoyed reading that more than the entirety ov the actual game.

@anneshepard

3 жыл бұрын

If only I read this before paying money to be disappointed and annoyed

@vequitas1972

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I'd have preferred the exact plot the way you described it in a half-hour short film, to a game that took me four days to slog through.

The story is badly written and absolutely worth criticizing. It does not immediately and automatically turn you into a racist sexist to have issues with plot holes, forced contrivances and nonsensical scenarios despite what certain outlets would try to have you believe.

@faiz8840

3 жыл бұрын

@Iain Steele it's full of damn potholes what do you mean lol

@mathieuosakue8449

3 жыл бұрын

@@faiz8840 tell me

@barackobama6858

3 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed the game but the pacing is terrible

@jjones1032

3 жыл бұрын

@@barackobama6858 Same. I enjoyed parts of it Okay. Some parts (especially Abby's part) were a slog to get through. @Faiz The first plot hole that comes to mind is: why did an army of infected suddenly show up outside Jackson?

@tierk4328

3 жыл бұрын

@@barackobama6858 100% especially in the middle. However, in the 3rd act, it started to draw me in again.

"Who has more potential to disrespect the characters? The people who actually work on the game or the leakers?" Neil Druckmann's self-insert: *literally spits on Joel's corpse*

@wisewolfds

3 жыл бұрын

Druckmann was not Manny. Druckmann was on a collectible card. I forget the actor for Manny by the guy who voiced him did motion capture on his face for the game. Manny is completely modeled after someone else. Albeit someone that does look very similar to Druckmann lol

@CyberChrist

3 жыл бұрын

@@wisewolfds Isn't Manny supposed to be the scenarist's self-insert ?

@GOffensive

3 жыл бұрын

@@CyberChrist Manny looks exactly like Alejandro Edda, the actor who did mocap and voiceovers for that character. Druckmann has nothing to do with this character.

@filipemrbean2

3 жыл бұрын

@@GOffensive yes "its all coincidence" i gonna edit, i trought the sarcasm was so obvious that would not need anything... well....

@lightningdashproductions8824

3 жыл бұрын

Manny may not have been his self-insert, but im sure we can all agree that Druckmann was metaphorically Manny in that scene.

I think the biggest contributor to all of this was the unfortunate external factors. It’s one thing to make a game that you know will anger fans to an extent but for it to be released during a global pandemic where not only are ppl having a rough time getting through life but have to be thoughtful on the commodities they purchase? You’re kind of taking what could’ve been a cathartic and refreshing place for ppl to revisit a world and characters that they missed for so long and slapping them across the face with something cynical, uncomfortable and downright mean. At a time when there was no shortage of that in real life already.

Love how he said at 4:17 that this game was about hate , yet they spend a good 10-12 hours doing every possible manipulative thing to get people to like Abby .

@enenrax

11 ай бұрын

all this could have been solved with the endgame having 2 endings, we would decide if we were going to forgive Abby or not. only one choice and world would be better. and IF there is tlou3 with Ellie, they might just not mention that ending and the sequel would be the ending we chose.

@gigachad3925

9 ай бұрын

And they also did everything they could to make you hate her. Just because they showed you Abby’s perspective doesn’t mean they are trying to tell you “Abby good and Ellie bad”. If they wanted to make Abby the good guy they wouldn’t have made her a ruthless killer. When Yara calls Abby a good person, that’s not the game telling you, it’s just Yara telling you because the only context Yara had of Abby was her saving people. The point is that both Abby and Ellie become awful people, yet both still have a glimmer of hope inside of them.

"no one loves these characters more than we do" * proceeds to make abby repeatedly bash Joel's skull with a golf club *

@mauriandlaw

3 жыл бұрын

in the first couple of hours of the game....and spitting on his corpse...

@flopgamer9757

3 жыл бұрын

"No OnE lOvEs ThEsE cHaRaCtErS mOrE tHaN wE dO" he said, while killing the most loved character in the game with unnecessary brutal methods.

Every time they defend the game by saying critics are homophobic and sexist: As a gay female, THIS STORYLINE IS STILL AWFUL. Grateful to see some (not great) representation, but wow.

@DanishAli-qz8xr

3 жыл бұрын

Taylor Daub the funny thing is sexuality and stuff like that should be secondary to a game. The gameplay and story are primary things. If you wanna see a non straight character done extremely well look at ciri from witcher 3. I Absolutely love her

@messeduppika5314

3 жыл бұрын

Lol same but they did focus the game on being lgbt and not a game

@DanishAli-qz8xr

3 жыл бұрын

Caferino hmmm......its rather clear that you haven’t played the game or read the books Geralt and ciri are not the same and you dont need “lgbt characters” those things should be secondary not the primary focus. The differences between geralt and ciri are pretty damn clear,ranging from different temperaments to different personality traits

@theworld6710

3 жыл бұрын

The storyline isn’t awful, it’s actually amazing and well-crafted. Also is the representation ‘not great’?

@DanishAli-qz8xr

3 жыл бұрын

Matthew its not amazing and well crafted in any way whatsoever. And yeah there’s no development for the representations it feels unnatural and forced.

I’ve just completed the Platinum Trophy in TLoU Part II and I can say that I didn’t enjoy playing this dumb story at all. Except for the part of the Museum Flashback, because the original TLoU is there.

@shubhmayc

3 жыл бұрын

I can't get it to platinum this mediocre game , and I platinum TLOU and Remastered

@apizcyril9479

3 жыл бұрын

im amazed you sacrificed your soul to plat it...for a platinum hunter myself, i feel you. i glad i didnt buy it

@alfredalc

3 жыл бұрын

Flashbacks were amazing, they made you feel so happy

@modernmobster

3 жыл бұрын

I just recently bought the game on sale and I'm on the island right now and this game is a fucking SLOG. It's story is so barebones and stretched out, yet nothing happens. Even though I just replayed the first game (finally beating grounded+) I feel like I'm gonna need to replay it again after this just to get the bad taste out of my mouth. One things for certain, I'm selling this game once I beat it, platinum be damned. I usually don't sell games, but I have no desire to revisit this sjw borefest.

For how long we consumers will be ok with the misleading teasers? In other industries it is even a crime but in game industry it seems to be ok! The very same happened with ff7 remake.

@kekegreen3649

3 жыл бұрын

For every y’all will buy anything Look at bfV sold great made over 50m!!!! And it was just empty complaining Same for this game it’s selling good and already made its money back It’s not doing the best but it made money back and some off the top

@chestor2314

3 жыл бұрын

@@kekegreen3649 the game sold well cuz people fell in love for the first game and so most people including me went in blind to play this game so no leaked spoiler or trailers....well now that was a fukjn mistake.

@kekegreen3649

3 жыл бұрын

Chestor I giv you that bro It most gamers are cry baby’s Who still buy the product lol

@Eshtian

3 жыл бұрын

You reffering to the where ff7 ended?

So in Troy bakers mindset (A VOICE ACTOR) if you spend a long time making something that means it's good. Also the first game was not divisive at all it was literally universally praised. The game does not do any character development for the new characters Dina's whole character is that she is a lesbian and so is Ellies everyone is kinda just there to serve a purpose but not there to be people. The 2 Asian characters are the only people that feel like actual characters but we don't really know much about their story it's like we only saw the climax.

@barackobama6858

3 жыл бұрын

The first game had the same problems, with character development for every character that aren’t the main characters. Sam and Henry had basically no personality

@Ytomany

3 жыл бұрын

@@barackobama6858 What?!! Ok sure dude.

@Heroinedown

3 жыл бұрын

Jay curious No need to be a fanboy to dislike a bad story. The guy in this video proves it so your argument falls apart.

@jackcaffrey8493

3 жыл бұрын

not to mention the director of the OG walked FARRRR away from this project - these people didnt actually create these characters they just took them and twisted them for a sorry ass manbun whos taking money from someone he will never share about

@douglas98465

3 жыл бұрын

I'm a fan of some of the voice actors who worked on this game and now it pains me to realize that these voice actors hyped up the game outside of official promotional materials. I used to think that they were pretty in touch with the average person and didn't think themselves holier than others, but Coronavirus, the protests, and this game are making me rethink that.

Troy: "play the game and find out" Us: *plays the game* "this is literally exactly what the leaks said would happen"

@silenthero2795

3 жыл бұрын

Not really. It's WAY WORSE. Hearing their pretentious explanations just shows how out of line they are to their own fanbase.

@leguminous7564

3 жыл бұрын

Don't blame him, lmao he's gotta raise the purchases somehow.

@UnfoundFilms

3 жыл бұрын

If players are led to believe they wont enjoy the game then they have no obligation to “play the game and find out”.

@NotCthulhu

3 жыл бұрын

@@silenthero2795 You want pandering shit go play Call of Duty.

@NotCthulhu

3 жыл бұрын

@Dreyness That's art, when your baseless hysteria goes away you'll realize it was good.

this game is an overexaggeration of the darkness of humanity and less expression on its bright side, it is due to the director's less capability and over confidence

I love how "the most accessable game ever" allows access to the shittiest game ever. 🤣

“You need to go into this open-minded”, a.k.a., “This will destroy everything you loved about the previous game, and if you don’t like it, it’s your fault”.

@Quotenwagnerianer

3 жыл бұрын

No. It's a.k.a : "Don't judge a story by reading its summary on cliff notes."

@indrickboreale5463

3 жыл бұрын

Aka: I legally have to side with Naughty Dog and this was the best sentence I could use.

@Cheonging101

3 жыл бұрын

*bashes your head open, exposing your brains*

@braydude104

3 жыл бұрын

@@Quotenwagnerianer You'll reach the same conclusion by doing either/or.

@ULTIMATEGOOSE01

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of playing the 1st game before the 2nd, but given how the 2nd may likely leave me hanging with its ending, i think i will play the 2nd game and then the 1st so I'm left feeling better lol.

48:57 “It’s super gross, super depressing, and (sadly) super predictable.” Not gonna lie, I thought he was talking about the game itself at first.

I just replayed the first game to prepare for the show... And it's still such a fantastic experience. The entire runtime of the game built up the relationship between Joel and Ellie. There is so much potential for a tense follow up story between these 2. But instead of building off of that, Joel dies a dog's death immediately, Ellie is suddenly in a love triangle with no buildup, and Abby is thrusted on the player and the game does manipulative tactics to sympathize with her after killing Joel. Going in this direction is brave in a sense, but incredibly stupid. I see what they were trying to do but it ultimately fell flat. You don't create a sequel with the intention to alienate a part of your fanbase.

@Flyon86

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, I think that if they wanted to have Joel die and then have a revenge story arc they could've made a story to make that work but they didn't handle it the right way. Abby just being generally unlikable and then having you play 1/2 the game as her was probably the biggest misstep. Joel's death just felt "unearned" in a lot of ways. Not to mention that the circumstance was dumb, a seasoned survivor like him giving out his name to a bunch of strangers when he knows he has tons of enemies that want him dead just didn't make sense.

The reception for this game was pretty much the same as The Last Jedi. Neil Druckmann is acting smug exactly like Rian Johnson did back in 2017 after TLJ came out. Also, this game has completely killed my trust in gaming journalism. I will never trust any of their reviews again.

@juanpedro_mov7372

3 жыл бұрын

You never should have in the first place. Reviews tend to be biased, bought or just plainly a rough opinion. If you want to try a game or watch a movie don't rely on reviews but rather form your own opinion instead.

@bankaispirits

3 жыл бұрын

@@juanpedro_mov7372 love this comment! Always do and play something for yourself to see how you like it, cuz, it’s your experience 👌🏾

@milacruz3970

6 ай бұрын

I trust youtubers way more. I can't even trust my gaming friends because they liked this one haha.

I would love to know Abby’s workout routine. Probably all that golfing

@zionsimanian9310

3 жыл бұрын

Big mountains made of steroids. Every meal should have at least 10 pills ground into the food

4:15 They wanted the players to feel hate. I would say they succeeded. They were so good that people that never even played the game hate it.

@omarsiddique9211

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao the dude said we dont want you to enjoy the game, and they achieved that objective spectacularly

@vlone2212

3 жыл бұрын

@@omarsiddique9211 Did you play it?

@prodalowany

3 жыл бұрын

I don't even hate the story, I just hate the devs that spent 7 years to destroy character we liked and delivered poorly written game while from technical point of view game is a masterpiece.

@omarsiddique9211

3 жыл бұрын

@@vlone2212 lmao no shit dude i wouldnt say it was unenjoyable if i didnt play it

@vlone2212

3 жыл бұрын

@@omarsiddique9211 A lot of people are saying the game is trash and have never touched it. I was just asking. Sheesh

This game falls under the "we don't consider this canon" category

@jacobreeves3110

11 ай бұрын

I loved the sequel.

This game was a straight up agenda. I loved the gameplay with the new infected/scars and the dogs and crawling in the grass. But other than that they wasted a chance to play as Tommy instead of abby in which nobody cared about

@HectorArchundia

3 жыл бұрын

@Emunah • YHWH's Creation which was so poorly developed that it didnt work.

@alfredalc

3 жыл бұрын

Ohhh that would've been so great, killing abby's friends as tommy

Games that make you feel bad for playing existing. Game Devs: This is where the fun begins.

@goddimmus

3 жыл бұрын

"We dont use the word "fun" in our games." Niel Cuckman.

@Lord_Numpty

3 жыл бұрын

At least Spec Ops was clever about it.

@tominatorxx

3 жыл бұрын

​@@Lord_Numpty Spec Ops had a beautifully paced very cohesive story with good characters and clear motivations. I wouldn't call that game fun. However, for people who like storytelling games it's imo a must play. Based on Heart of Darkness and perfectly executed. It really captures the theme of the book. In fact another game (which still is one of my personal favourites) is the "love it or hate it" Far Cry 2. Also based on Heart Of Darkness. Way less heavy on story. It's there and imo it works perfectly. A simple modern story of a mercenary hired to kill an armsdealer who is supplying bot sides of a conflict. You realize throughout the game you've more in common with him than you thought at first. The strength of that game isn't necessarily the story itself but the actions you do and how spontaneous it brings over its theme. Sneak up on a camp and shoot someone in the chest only to hear him moan of pain while one of his comrades is trying to comfort him. Weapons breaking down in the middle of a fight (like the sandstorm moments in Spec Ops meant to convey a a harsh conditions). Having buddies who can die trying to help you (even putting a bullet in them yourself to relieve them from their pain). Healing animations that are extremely graphic (same as some of the graphic wounds you can cause on enemies in Spec Ops),... Unfortunately the rest of the Far Cry series went way more in your face with its story and left out a lot of that narrative depth (through actions) in its world. Too on the nose and since they are open world games, suffer too much from inconsistent pacing. As for The Last Of Us games. I can't really say much about it, since I've never played either of them. But the thing is with these types of games you can do 2 things. Either go the route of Spec Ops in a linear game and make sure the characters, the story and the pacing are perfect. Or in the case of an open world game make something where your actions tell a story and convey a theme. Pacing is going to be an issue anyway. So make the player feel lik they are the character who is making certain decissions. Now that last one can't be done in The Last Of Us obviously. But in that case plot holes, mismatching motivations etc. are going to make people upset. I feel like that has happened here. Direct sequels with these types of games are really dangerous to keep narrative consistency.

@RaikenXion

3 жыл бұрын

If a Video Game makes you feel bad for playing it, thats not a "video game", its a "tool" designed in such a way to condition you to a certain way of thinking. A true "video game" will always be "Fun". And if its not Fun its not worth playing.

@tominatorxx

3 жыл бұрын

@@RaikenXion I disagree with that. A game needs to be compelling. And that doesn't necessarily mean it needs to be fun in the traditional sense. If a game is compelling you to continue (whether it's the story, difficulty,...) then it doesn't necessarily needs to be fun. "Fun" is kind of a vague word tbh. Do movies, music and books also need to be fun to be compelling? At that point we would lose a lot of possibilities in terms storrytelling, interaction possibilities, etc. The fact that games can amplify an emotional experience (thanks to the level of interaction) is what makes this medium so powerful. We wouldn't have great games like "This War Of Mine", "Brothers: A Tale Of Two Sons", "Spec Ops The Line", "Papers Please" and many others. Unique experiences that are compelling but not necessarily fun in a traditional way.

They tried to pull on our heartstrings but they pulled our balls

@leviticus6896

3 жыл бұрын

Now that a BIG FUKEN OOF

ND: We have many options for players with various kinds of disabilities! Me: I have depression, so can I customize a bit the story and maybe achieve a different ending- ND: *NO.*

@SydBarker

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking about the same thing after beating the game. What a bunch of hypocrites. Everybody struggling with depression should avoid this game at any cost.

@realswobby

3 жыл бұрын

@@SydBarker I had depression when I met TLOU 1 and I fell in love with the game. It's not about having it or being a hypocrite. TLOU 2 "gave me" depression not because of its violence or very sad events, but because of how stupid and disappointing the whole story is - from technical point of view. Mostly, how the whole "revenge tour" seems for me so pointless from the very beginning. It "gave me" depression because of how it buthered the whole legacy of the first game.

"About hate its the counterpart of the first game" "So much tought has been put in this game" and that all to crumble to a painfully annoying ending, so much buildup for nothing

Him praising Anita Skeeversion is an unforgivable act. It put's a lot of their decisions with both TLOU & Uncharted in perspective. In my mind: Star Wars ended with Return of the Jedi and, now, TLOU ended with the first game. An exceptional one-off.

@pollekem6459

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. Until ND formally apologize and distance themselves from Anita and her lies I am not buying any ND product ever again!

@ineedmoreflavour1955

3 жыл бұрын

100% agree.

@OoXLR8oO

3 жыл бұрын

Dude didn’t praise Anita though. He praised what she was trying to do, and then politely roasted her for how badly she was doing it.

@DVRKSTXR

3 жыл бұрын

polleke M Naughty Dog doesn’t owe you or anybody an apology for THEIR story that THEY created. That’s an extremely entitled and dangerous mentality. Feeling as if the world owes you something because you came across a disagreeable plot line in a video game that negatively affected you by making you feel uncomfortable.

@nerdzforevr9657

3 жыл бұрын

@@DVRKSTXR bruh, the game is very obviously not anywhere near as good as the first, not because it "makes people uncomfortable" but because the story just isn't good. Outta here with that negative crap

"I don't like the story" "You don't like the story? You must be a moron!!" Seriously though, I like most thing about the game. JUST not its story.

@SneakySnake133

3 жыл бұрын

Its a story game

@justincastillo4739

3 жыл бұрын

@@SneakySnake133 nah man I just skipped all the cutscenes and played around with how creative I can murder

@Aye-Em

3 жыл бұрын

@@justincastillo4739 Did the exact same.

@interceptingfist5682

3 жыл бұрын

Someone with some sense.

@agustinkarpoff

3 жыл бұрын

I just see the history and i love it... conclucion: this game is not for you PD: make your game :D

Fastest selling and fastest (and furthest) dropping. 85% drop in week two in Japan and 80% in the UK. Kind of telling isn't it. If Druckman is in charge of LOU3 no thanks

@aaronm4841

3 жыл бұрын

disposableproduction I mean, if it sells 4 million in 3 days who is left to buy it🤷🏻 red dead had a higher drop and in UK it’s digital sales were more then the other top ten combined. That’s pretty good

@mgeiger2341

3 жыл бұрын

@@aaronm4841 Let's not forget there have been reports of high return rates, and them refusing to hand out refunds.

@aaronm4841

3 жыл бұрын

Not Patrick that’s not exactly true, the reason there are no returns allowed was bc if the covid relief, I played it and liked it but wanted to return it bc I kind saw need for the 60 dollars, and they aren’t allowing returns for all new games, bc stores need the money

@graysonkenna1464

3 жыл бұрын

@@aaronm4841 ...I think you missed the fact that a lot of people WANTED to return it at and abnormal rate. It's also the sequel to a masterpiece, of course it sold well initially

@aaronm4841

3 жыл бұрын

Grayson Kenna I mean, the facts that it sold that well, even after the game completely leaked, many hate channels spread hate and campaigns to boycott, and it still sold, and I mean we are in a pandemic, who wouldn’t want to sell something right now?

I went in completely spoiler free, and the game lost me when Abby got Raw Dogged from the back from a character they were shoving down our throats to like

@Montesama314

3 жыл бұрын

It was definitely a "...wait, why?" moment.

@vequitas1972

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Jesus, it was horrifying.

I need to remember that the reason I hate it so much is cuz of how good the first game was. Niel shouldn't be happy about the hate of tlou2 because it's not tlou2 that made me hate it. It's my love for the original that made me hate the sequel. If it wasn't for the original no one would care about this game.

@stifito

3 жыл бұрын

hate is for those who don't understand it...

@gurgamous

3 жыл бұрын

@@stifito love is for those easily enchanted by ostensible substance.

@yerevani6614

2 жыл бұрын

@@stifito It's just a bad story

@berimar5675

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody cares about it even now with present circumstances ....... and no amount of fake awards will convince me otherwise ..... the users score and number of angry reviews speak for themselves

@palheiro5560

2 жыл бұрын

@@berimar5675 the sold copies of the 1st compared to the second speak volumes and that's where it really matters Lou 1 was way more profitable than Lou 2

The scene with the downed wolf. You don't have a choice but to kill him. After you do it Jesse chastises you. I hate that. A general lack of player choice!

@jordangarcia465

3 жыл бұрын

I hate when games do that kind of thing. "Here's a choice where you don't really get a choice, and we're gonna make you feel bad for that choice!" Like, bitch maybe I would've done something different if you let me??? Edit: I would also like to add that video games tend to forget they're video games and try to be movies. If you wanted to make a game where it's basically a long, interactable cutscene might as well have made a movie.

@sanelino3069

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah guys but that is not how ND games works. And I get why. The Story of tlou woudn't be this impactful if the player had a choice. Because ND want you to feel the way they wrote the Story.

@tekakiuluy3221

3 жыл бұрын

@@jordangarcia465 Especially coming from a game who wants to make you think about the ''cycle of violence'' Undertale did this better

@narudan

3 жыл бұрын

@@sanelino3069 But instead of feeling something you feel nothing because you had no choice? big brain move then.

@-Trauma.

3 жыл бұрын

*shoots Wolves & skins them in front of Wolf Man* "Yeah? And? So? What?"

I'd like to personally thank all the KZreadrs who play games for us, who aren't sure whether or not to waste...I mean spend 60 hard earned $ during this pandemic your sacrifice is appreciated.

Oh god 4chan was a goldmine of memes when this dumpster fire came out. The re-imaged sex scene and let's not forget the mr blue sky masterpiece

you know things truly a mess when even Bruce Straley even said some thing about ludonarrative stuffs in his tweets back in January. He was concerned, tried to warned us, & then left ND.

@herbs7482

3 жыл бұрын

Really!

@fishy7901

3 жыл бұрын

I like how the narrative shift at IGN is also very timely, they ran an article about Amy Hennig being driven out of ND by Druckman, and now they are saying they made it up...kinda timely since everyone is saying ND hasn't been the same since Amy left and Druckman has ruined them.

@Aloyhero

3 жыл бұрын

Bruce just retired thats all. it was probably a mid life crisis thing he was like yeah i dont want to work on games anymore and moved on and that was it. people have quit there jobs because they want to do other things in life that cant do in there other job it happens.

@darthXreven

3 жыл бұрын

kinda hard to warn anyone when 1 IDK about everyone else but I never joined the T so who's gonna see the message? and 2 no news outlets would report on such a comment cus there's no context for it..... sites like the T are useless when some of us put zero stock in their validity, the T is not real life and thus should not influence real life, sorry [T = Twitter, I hate even saying the name anymore]

@Laroac

3 жыл бұрын

@@Aloyhero And disregard his tweets in favour of your midlife crisis fan fiction. He has been in the industry for a long time and is very passionate.

I hope the next God of War doesn't turn out like this

@Hubert_Cumberdale_

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm

@humbleservant7797

3 жыл бұрын

If kratos dies atleast the covered they ass with end of the first game since we know its prophecy. I wanted to say santa monica neva disappoints, but neitheir did ND till this game.

@GForceIntel

3 жыл бұрын

That's impossible.

@jortharob3406

3 жыл бұрын

Kratos dies and Atreus loses his identity and wants to be called MA'AM! 😂😂😂 Edit I know about Loki's questionable history did wanna say his name In case people didn't play the game.

@rileyschmidt8753

3 жыл бұрын

well as long as Neil isn't working on it

The first place where they screwed up was including the original characters. If they wanted to make a successful story about “revenge not being the answer”, they should’ve saved this story for a third installment and have this game focus on Abby instead, before and after her motivating incident. That way, it would’ve given players more time to warm up and get used to Abby and her crew, so when in comes the revenge story, a more grey first impression of who’s right and who’s wrong would take place, since we’d have spent a better amount of time between the two sides of the story. This probably would’ve resulted in a better debate than the one-sided toxicity we have today. BUT, hate sells more, amirite?

I replayed part one and planned on getting part two, but after seeing these comments idk if I want to.... thank you all for saving part one for me and not letting me ruin it😂😂

@vequitas1972

2 жыл бұрын

Well, did you ever get 2?

I’ll forgive it if we get a dlc where I get to drown Abby as an alternate ending

@ccateni28

3 жыл бұрын

👍

@GrievousReborn

3 жыл бұрын

Naughty Dog said there will be NO DLC

@MyShiroyuki

3 жыл бұрын

Grievous Reborn I guess they knew people would hate it and wouldn’t support any DLC.

@marywilcox3102

3 жыл бұрын

@@MyShiroyuki And it sold 4 million copies in 3 days. Who cares at this point?!

@GForceIntel

3 жыл бұрын

@@marywilcox3102 bet you 98% are not satisfied with the outcome

I just finished the game, and literally i've never felt more empty after finishing a game. This game left me with a bad aftertaste that will be very hard to shake off.

@generalkinobi6215

3 жыл бұрын

True.

@itatreeneetee

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip. I aint touching this one!

@PotheadCowpoke

3 жыл бұрын

I feel sorry for your wallet. What a waste of money.

@austinkersey2445

3 жыл бұрын

Just pick up a better game. I don't know play Pokémon or something? I mean nobody gets mad playing Pokémon right? *remembers Whitney* On second thought just play Persona. 2-5 will wash that taste out of your mouth pretty quick, considering they take months to beat. Hell, if you just play 10 hours a week those games will last you roughly 3/4 of the year.

@jojoman4223

3 жыл бұрын

Same. I got a really bad afterbirth after finish this game.

Dr cuckman: "I've INVENTED an original Revenge story." Yeah a revenge story with no revenge , real wall breaking stuff.

I'm only at 5 seconds but I know the People Pretty much won this one.

One of the major weaknesses Naughty Dog has had for a while is their repeated and senseless attempts to make the point that killing and violence is bad. In games where 90% of the gameplay is basically mass slaughter..... I genuinely don't understand why they're incapable of realizing that this doesn't work.

@GOffensive

3 жыл бұрын

You are incapable of even understanding the basic principle of the story. The make the point that violence is bad by showing you what happens when you resort to violence.

@frankwest5388

3 жыл бұрын

GOffensive games are not books. The interactive part of the game is storytelling as well. So if your core gameplay loop is all about murdering people, having your main character spare someone feels contradictory. This is like me trying to convince you that cars are evil, by showing you how great people get from place to place with them and driving you around all day. The action goes against the core message. Now, if you wanted to make a point about how violence and revenge is bad, there are ways to do that in a game. Punish the player for killing. Make the game harder if you have a body trail or something. While I haven’t played it, one of the MetalGear games has a clever way to portraying an anti violence message. During one segment you wander through a dream state, where everyone you killed attacks you. Meaning that you have an a lot easier time, if you try to avoid killing and go the stealth route. Or the game undertale. Where interactions with NPCs become a lot more hostile and unfriendly if you kill a lot. If you can’t grasp this basic idea you are probably incapable of understanding the self contradictory story or the complaint that the other guy said

@1894db

3 жыл бұрын

@@GOffensive That doesn't work when it's fun, all of the people you kill are unknown faceless mooks, and there aren't any consequences for killing them or even the option of being non lethal.

@caldw615

3 жыл бұрын

Spec Ops The Line is a violent shooter game by design and does a far better job of making the player question or feel bad for what they are doing as a commentary on violence in video games and movies being glorified.

@gabrielgiron4273

3 жыл бұрын

What is this mine craft

rather than playing as Abby , I would rather playing as Tommy for some part of the game . I mean revenge have to be solved with another revenge but ten fold right ? The answer have to be if you kill them all there will be no one left to take a revenge on you.

@nomansdie8624

3 жыл бұрын

I love how Tommy just went in guns blazing, not tracking anyone down (apart from the interogation at the beginning). Dude was just snipin' wolfs.

@XxSeedOfEvilxX

3 жыл бұрын

That's not how life works, the people you kill inevitably have people who love them and would be prepared to seek revenge, making it a cycle that may never end unless someone breaks the cycle

@purpleemerald5299

3 жыл бұрын

Bilal A Also, it’s pretty insulting to say that EVERYONE in real life has loved ones who will seek revenge. Oh yeah, that random orphan in Africa will DEFINITELY be avenged. XD

@marocainforlife

3 жыл бұрын

Still much better than OP with his "sorry Ethiopian kid Imma have to kill ya cuz I killed your oncle once removed and now I don't want you coming for me in case you might wanna get revenge or something."

3 жыл бұрын

@@XxSeedOfEvilxX stfu

"The Last of Us ll," the unholy love child "Highlander 2" and "Star Wars: The Last Jedi" of gaming.

Never forget that Neil, himself, wanted ppl to hate this game. Just not in a eay that he wanted.