"Fourteen." "Million or billion?" "Yes."

@misinformedmarti

4 жыл бұрын

First one, then the other.

@benlaskowski357

4 жыл бұрын

Billion with a 'b'. Wonderful.

@zpetar

4 жыл бұрын

Pocket money. That is how much is spent on developing of F-35 helmet.

@captainbryce1

4 жыл бұрын

@@zpetar Yeah, but this was back in the 60s - 80s. Inflation! Oh, and that's also the number BEFORE anything was actually produced other than the prototype. The F-35 helmet didn't take 17 years to develop.

@rafsanAhmed93

4 жыл бұрын

Billion with a B

next movie...Pentagon wars - F-35

@tommyfred6180

5 жыл бұрын

no mate a movie would be to short. it would have to be a long running soup like TBBT to even scratch the surface of that barrel of piggy wiggys :). it is shocking the US could develop a space program and get guys on the moon in the same time the Bradly took to develop. what has gone wrong?

@JohnSmith-ik8nt

5 жыл бұрын

@@tommyfred6180 no its not because this is a fucking movie and the government in real life is competent

@failtolawl

5 жыл бұрын

It's still the most capable fighter bomber of all time...

@carval51

5 жыл бұрын

yes pls believe in holywood everything in holywood is real.

@Skywalker8562

5 жыл бұрын

@@tommyfred6180 yup mate and you Aussie's just bought shitload of them. But look on the bright side the Iranians fired their Air Force commander because the F-35 flown by Israeli pilots have been flying over Iran taking pictures of every mullah big-tittied gal in the country. But, who knows what mods they put on them and its like pulling a bulls tooth to get them to share the info.

We often forget that Kelsey Grammer is a classically trained actor... until we watch scenes like this.

@neuvocastezero1838

4 жыл бұрын

I think it's evident in everything he does. "Frasier' most notably.

@irohaboat

3 жыл бұрын

I think I'm missing something here. I am not understanding what you mean?

@OfLanceTheLonginus

3 жыл бұрын

Man fuck you this is good

@firstandlastnames8308

2 жыл бұрын

You may have forgotten but not many have...

@juliancollot7579

2 жыл бұрын

He was Stinky Pete in Toy Story 2

"A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon you're talking real money." Everett Dirksen.

@mysterirhys

4 жыл бұрын

I think this quote was actually pre inflation and it was million rather than billion.

Peter Jackson should direct a trilogy: The Fellowship of the Bradley The Two F-35's The Return of the Gerald R. Ford

@gregranzoni1899

4 жыл бұрын

...i would like to see that.

@thenumbah1birdman

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, MBT-70 first, then bradley, and then F-35. The or maybe replace the Ford in your lineup with the zumwalt.

@whiteknightcat

4 жыл бұрын

@@thenumbah1birdman Oh yeahhhhh, I'd forgotten about the useless littoral ships.

@jasnix

4 жыл бұрын

@@whiteknightcat Zumwalt's are the new DD 1000's s that they planned for 18 ships, and it was cut to 3, and the rounds for the gun cost a million a pop. Boondoggle if there ever was one. not quite on par with the Littoral's but dang close.

@whiteknightcat

4 жыл бұрын

@@jasnix My mistake. Sorry. But yes, the littorals may as well have bullseyes painted on them.

If only Congress actually scrutinized the Pentagon's budget like this. It usually works completely the opposite.

@TheWizardGamez

4 жыл бұрын

If only the president scrutinized congress about the budget

@insaneapples1559

4 жыл бұрын

I know of a few *cough* congresspeople who would have applauded the general, gave him another 14 billion and called the whistleblower an American-hating snitch.

@_Wai_Wai_

4 жыл бұрын

@@insaneapples1559 love it. As a yellow Asian man, I'm always delighted when this farce people call Free market, capitalism is exposed

@captainbryce1

4 жыл бұрын

@gillecroisd 92 Something that is often overlooked is the assumption that Congress actually keeps track of (and consistent oversight on) projects such as these. Remember that Congress is a revolving door of Congressmen and Senators who get elected, sometimes get re-elected, lose elections and get replaced, retire, and die. Just because a particular program was greenlit in Congress in the 1960s doesn't mean that anyone in Congress 20 years later has kept track of that. Unless there was an ongoing committee set up in the beginning to continually track progress, Congress would be reliant on regular updates from the military departments on the status of such projects. And if you watch this film, you'll see that they are not exactly in a rush to brief Congress if they don't have to. It's very easy for old projects to fall off of Congress's plate (out of sight, out of mind) UNTIL some insider blows the whistle.

@flight2k5

3 жыл бұрын

You know the defense budget is less than Medicare and social security?

"We're in this together."

@phairecouchpotato3912

4 жыл бұрын

not by choice, my taxes make sure of that

@chunyinanimation

2 ай бұрын

When it's a problem, we're in this together. When it's success, it's just me!

Love how deflated he sounds when he has to discuss facts and can’t just give a speech laced with hyperbole

To put it in perspective, with inflation, the Manhattan Project that developed the first atomic bomb cost 28 billion dollars (2020) The fourteen billion spent thus far developing the Bradley becomes over 34 billion in 2020 dollars.

@IrishCarney

3 жыл бұрын

But the America of 1980 or 2020 was much richer than the America of 1945. The Manhattan Project was much, much bigger portion of the nation's economy and budget than the Bradley was.

@DomWeasel

3 жыл бұрын

@@IrishCarney In 1945, the US was the richest nation in the world by significant margin, something it couldn't hold claim to in either 1980 or now in 2020. The US was the only nation that came out of WW2 better off.

@IrishCarney

3 жыл бұрын

@@DomWeasel I'm talking about the size of the US economy and budget in constant dollars. And, in constant, inflation adjusted dollars, the US economy and budget were MUCH bigger in 1980 and 2020 than in 1945. That's true regardless of the fact that in that intervening time, other countries also grew from rubble to recovery and the US portion of the overall world economy shrank. Yes our slice of the world pie got smaller but the pie got MUCH bigger so we were richer.

@slitor

3 жыл бұрын

@@IrishCarney A good point, but inflation is an indicator to economic growth, (with the usual exceptions of course and not 1-to-1) . So when you adjust to inflation you to a degree also adjust to the sizes of the economies. Of course the true question should be comparing budgets and add other context like war bonds income and the priorities of a war economy vs... well...(insert joke about US is allways at war) peace economy. Moral is...can't do quantitative without qualitative.

@spartanx9293

3 жыл бұрын

For the r&D cost of a new infantry fighting vehicle that honestly doesn't sound that expensive

I love Kelsey Grammer. He's able to do comedy and Drama with such ease. Truly an underrated actor in this day and age.

@JJvideoman

4 жыл бұрын

Jilk truly delightful

@benlaskowski357

4 жыл бұрын

Really. He's good.

@ShadowSonic2

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't call him underrated. Most everyone know who he is.

@Mrkti

2 жыл бұрын

That last sentence is truly the most used sentence about actors on KZread

The F-35 makes the Bradley Fighting Vehicle look like peanuts. Same overall idea though. A good initial concept hampered by a thousand fingers in the pie. End cost: Unlimited.

@thunberbolttwo3953

6 жыл бұрын

Still not operationally aproved.

@thunberbolttwo3953

6 жыл бұрын

Lasstcynicstanding the bradley si not more efective thean the abrams.Its weapons and sarmor are inferior to the abrams.

@thunberbolttwo3953

6 жыл бұрын

Which is irelevant to what io have said.nice try though.Allso i am calling that bullshit.Nop one with a brain.Lets a apc near enemy tanks.no one.

@thunberbolttwo3953

6 жыл бұрын

aw hot cute.i trigered a snowflake with the truth.Lol good.

@radhominem

6 жыл бұрын

Basically. F-35 started as a next gen multi-role F/A. Then each branch decided it needed specific abilities for their own needs; like the USMC all but demanding vertical takeoff capability.

1:26 when you're 7 and you want a new xbox game and youre mom asks how much

@Ephisus

5 жыл бұрын

@Islam is cancer or... Ever.

@JonathanToolonie

4 жыл бұрын

@Islam is cancer My Dad always said, "Invest in a PC. The Console Wars aren't worth it."

They'd die seeing the 1.4 trillion 13 year F35 project

@somerandomguyfromthebeyond1821

5 жыл бұрын

ya they will have a massive laugh out of how terrible manage that program was (at least the F-35 itself turn out to be a pretty decent aircraft even if it's no F-22)

@aminazman9311

4 жыл бұрын

Ok can you guys tell me about all this f35 thing?

@somerandomguyfromthebeyond1821

4 жыл бұрын

@@aminazman9311 basically the F-35 Lightning II started out life as the JSF (Joint Strike Fighter) program which began in 1992, the goal of this program was to replace as many combat capable aircraft (most notably, the F-16, F/A-18, A-10, and AV-85B) with a single Airframe with three variants, one for each of the three US Military branches that utilize fighter jets (USAF, USN, USMC) and to support the F-22 Raptor (back then it was still known as the ATF). Lockheed Martin X-35 won the competition and was awarded the contract to develop the aircraft. however, throughout the development cycle, the program suffered some severe mismanagement and overspending along with the usual problems and criticism's one gets when making something entirely new or utilizing new technologies (ie Stealth) with the big example being the trouble Lockheed had in getting the electronics done right, and to make matters even worse the F-35 was now expected to be exported meaning some elements had to change or be added depending on the nation, mix all that together and you have the perfect recipe for a controversial program. luckily they manage to bring it under control a few years back and the F-35 is now being mass produced and is doing quite well from it's Red Flag and IAF performances.

@aminazman9311

4 жыл бұрын

@@somerandomguyfromthebeyond1821 and what about the $1.5t?

@somerandomguyfromthebeyond1821

4 жыл бұрын

@@aminazman9311 thats the total cost of the project itself not the price per airframe

The timelessness of the premise is incredible.

Kelsey Grammar was amazing in this film. Honestly should've won an accolade for that performance.

Ya know, "we are all tax payers" is the most fatal and most funniest word, ever. Yeah.... As long you are citizen, you are a "TAX PAYER" 🤣

When I enlisted in 2009, the Army swore up and down that they were rolling out a brand new PT test. It seemed every other issue of the Army Times was dedicated to the endeavor. Now, after millions of dollars, they've finally announced it will be implemented in 2020. It's gone from 3 events to 6. With the old test, all you needed was some flat ground and a stopwatch. The new test takes specialized equipment and will take all day to perform.

@kbanghart

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like me trying to learn a new kata in karate. Without all the money, of course.

@hhds113

4 жыл бұрын

When I was still at AIT at Fort Gordon back in 2003, I remember that the Army had to terminate the new Comanche project that was suppose to be the new attack helicopter but it went WAY beyond budget for only ONE aircraft.

@hhds113

4 жыл бұрын

@betatalk357 Actually, the new PT test called "ACFT - Army Combat Fitness Test instead of the APFT (Army Physical Fitness Test, is suppose to test your endurance to get your battle buddy out of a combat zone. Or in this case simulate one. And the new test will have different standards per MOS. Meaning 11B's will have the toughest passing grades.

@hhds113

4 жыл бұрын

@betatalk357 And that's where a draft comes into place.

@hhds113

4 жыл бұрын

@betatalk357 And you don't think we're not getting enough people to join? We still are. Otherwise the Army would have already closed down posts for Basic Training when we still have four major posts for it.

This is me presenting my thesis in front of my panelists

@mainframeomega3154

2 жыл бұрын

An underrated comment definitely

This scene is so classic. "TEXT-BOOK!" And obviously the Billion with a B part. More credit needs to be shown to the line just before that. "Wullll, yeah" Hilarious

Gen. Sideshow Bob... what a heroic and powerful man.

"The real world has enemies in it, there are forces at work as we speak and their name is...CAM WINSTOOONNN!!!"

@nityah6815

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

The funniest part of this movie is the Congressman pretending to give a shit about “The Taxpayers Money” Hilarious!

God Carry Ewles has the perfect facial expression combination of resignation, bemusement, and expectation

It’s funny that in the end bradley was very effective in combat and successful in its role in Gulf war

@holzmlb

10 ай бұрын

Yeah if you research this burton guy you realize this movie isnt factual, the bradly always had a turret, burton wasnt appointed by congress rather the army brought him in after he made some test suggestions, congress had multiple inquiries due to burton calling tabloids about how the army wouldnt do any test he wanted but when congress investigated they found that the army did in fact do every test burton wanted, he had lots of ideas but he wasnt a good placement for modern army, he had put forth plans for a tank killer planes that was like a ww2 plane with no gps radar or anything.

I absolutely LOVE this movie and recommend it all the time! And I worked 30 years for the DoD.

@largol33t1

2 жыл бұрын

I've been told this movie is watched in the military as a cautionary table of the risks of military acquisitions gone amok...

@largelarry437

2 жыл бұрын

@@largol33t1 its a nice idea, but its mostly bullshit. id recommend looking on YT for videos critiquing pentagon wars as they are numerous and informative

F-35 Program? $ 1.5 Trillion with a T.

@taoliu3949

6 жыл бұрын

RobynHarris It's 1.5 trillion over the course of its entire lifetime including maintenance etc.

@justicewarrior9187

5 жыл бұрын

WAIT WHAT???

@justicewarrior9187

5 жыл бұрын

@betatalk357 I'm sure those pilots were at fault.. Just like the recent Boeing 737 max plane crash in Ethiopia that was exactly the same as the last crash 3 months ago with this new aircraft!

@someone2Utoo

5 жыл бұрын

@betatalk357 as opposed to the F-16 which crashed approximately 20 times in less than 6 years? The F-35 has been flying for 13, with only two.

@jajsamurai

5 жыл бұрын

Just to put the amount spent in perspective, for 1.5 trillion dollars you could have purchased approximately 10,000 F22 Raptors. Instead we have less than 190 raptors, and we will get only about 1 to 2 thousand F35's to replace our f'16 fleet and that will only happen AFTER we still have to pay a per unit cost for those F35's at about 80 million a piece. The raptor is 150 million each and is a much more capable plane.

Lmao this doesn't even come close to the developmental nightmare of the F35 with lockheed martin.

@peterson7082

4 жыл бұрын

Not really the case with either.

@STScott-qo4pw

2 жыл бұрын

could you give a link or three? i've heard nothing but grumbling surrounding it. apparently one plane trying to do too many things at once. true?

@Amann0407

10 ай бұрын

Except the F-35 is a highly successful plane and is being produced by the thousands as an end production run. The US military alone will have 2500-3000 of the things, and our allies are also ordering a thousand or two. In the end, its likely to have a production run rivaling the F-16. It might have been more believable if you said Littoral Class Ship or Zumwalt destroyer. The warship procurement is a mess, but the air and land procurement is generally on point. The F-35 is even, per unit, cheaper than alot of 4.5 gen aircraft that are inferior to it.

Holy shit. The moment when you realize Perry Cox served at the Pentagon

@APineTree

4 жыл бұрын

Why do you think he's so angry and Anti-War?

"Where's the Congressional oversight?" The Swamp Creatures also need to be competent. I watched an Ausie senator questioning an admiral on sub design. She didn't comprehend how little she knew, so couldn't ask effective questions.

@DomWeasel

4 жыл бұрын

I saw the video. He was stating basic facts about submarines and she was responding with a 'Don't you mansplain to me' attitude when clearly she hadn't done any kind of background reading to give herself an understanding of the subject.

@Mankorra_Gomorrah

4 жыл бұрын

Don’t feel too bad, an American congressmen asked the navy if they were concerned that the island of Guam would flip over when the navy stationed airplanes there. When the admiral tried to tell them that islands don’t just flip over they couldn’t comprehend that islands are connected to the sea floor.

@honkhonk8009

3 жыл бұрын

Thats the people who go into politics for sure. Even with the internet your average 13 year old knows more about military than these clueless congressmen

And yet despite this snarky Hollywood movie, the Bradley has been a huge success and in combat it proved "lethal beyond all expectations".

@heraldofoblivion499

3 жыл бұрын

You cannot deny that although the end result was serviceable it was a design nightmare that took another country to get working. Wasnt the Isreali iteration was far more workable than the US's prototypes at the same stage in development? And their modifications then became standard?

@przemog88

2 жыл бұрын

@@heraldofoblivion499 No. There never had been "the Israeli iteration" of Bradley. These changes were already made by by USA before Burton even started his work. He simply lied in his book to make himself look like a hero protecting soldiers.

@steve88luv

2 жыл бұрын

@@heraldofoblivion499 They mention that in this movie, all of the tanks that they are selling have had modifications done to certain systems because those countries knew that it was a death trap.

@madkoala2130

Жыл бұрын

@@heraldofoblivion499 Isreal had never used or bought Bradleys from US, this is made up shit for the movie (or from its stupid source which is idiotic Burton him self, which you can even see on Wikipedia its bullshit). Movie is good piece of fiction, but documentary... never in million years would i trust the guy who had axe to grind (revenge o so you know) on people who denied his designs of WW2 style of equipment and ideas.

@Kleptophobia

Жыл бұрын

​@@heraldofoblivion499 Israel used M113s and never ordered Bradleys. The only other operators of the Bradley are Saudi Arabia and Lebanon...

i served on one of those pieces of crap. this movie is soooo on the money it is scary

@fisterhr

6 жыл бұрын

in government? In the military?

@meathead6155

4 жыл бұрын

Which part?

@Jokea222

4 жыл бұрын

@@meathead6155 he probably meant while serving he was inside the bradley at one point

It’s so stupid the way military procurement happens.

@Miranox2

4 жыл бұрын

It's called corruption and it exists everywhere there is power concentrated in the hands of few people.

@gregranzoni1899

4 жыл бұрын

Apparently this movie and the book it was base on is required viewing and reading in procurement and logistics classes on how NOT to do something.

@captainbryce1

4 жыл бұрын

@@gregranzoni1899 Unfortunately, it'll have very little impact on how things are actually done. The root cause of the problem is not "ignorance". The military (and the government) is fully aware of how this works (or doesn't work), and yet it keeps happening. The reason is because the military industrial complex is a self-licking lollipop that exists only to serve itself and justify it's own existence. It's not about the taxpayers or even about saving lives. It's a corrupt system that breeds corruption. Military generals are motivated by promotions and lucrative job opportunities for themselves in defense contracting. This means they are motivated only by "results" because that's what gets them more stars and items on their resume. If that means redesigning something to be "better" or cutting corners to procure it "faster", so be it. As long as they get their name stamped on the project it doesn't matter how long the project takes, how much it costs, or whether it's effective in the end. Meanwhile, defense contractors and lobbyists for them BUY congressmen and Senators support by providing "jobs" and increasing the "economy" for their state. Senators and congressmen are motivated by getting re-elected! So they are generally going to support businesses like Lockheed Martin, and Boeing, and other defense contractors who provide thousands of jobs to their state. If your state has a high employment rate and a booming economy, then it doesn't matter how much the Federal government is spending on projects that may or may not actually contribute to the warfighting effort. This is why it shouldn't be up to Congress to authorize defense spending. Defense spending should be allocated by the President alone, so that he alone bears the responsibility (taking credit for or being held accountable to) the efficacy of military assets and any associated wasteful spending. This relieves Congress of making national defense decisions based on their state's economy. In addition, there should be stricter laws in place to prevent military officers involved in acquisitions from being eligible for consideration to DoD positions within procurement and acquisitions (to prevent them from setting up jobs for themselves), or as employees of defense contractors involved in programs for which they were once the military lead developer. This prevents them from making national defense decisions that are designed to increase profits for their company and their own paychecks. Moreover, there should be an independent military officer from a different branch of service (like Lt Col Burton, but of equal or higher rank to the officer directing the project) assigned to every procurement project from start to finish. Finally, projects that are initially designed for a specific purpose, and to meet specific metrics before contracts are awarded should NOT be changed in such a way that fundamentally alters the originally intended goal for the project UNLESS the necessity for the original project has changed or disappeared. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nnuh1dCzmtLMpps.html

@OffGridInvestor

3 жыл бұрын

Even in Australia.... I know someone. They had a preferred supplier of "military grade DISHWASHERS". He went thru a heap of paper to change the preferred supplier. So now they pay 15 THOUSAND per dishwasher instead of 20 THOUSAND each.

@spartanx9293

3 жыл бұрын

@@gregranzoni1899 shouldn't be the main character Colonel Burton was a moron in real life he proposed something called The blitz fighter to the military essentially it was an aircraft with only a titanium bathtub cockpit and a 30 mm autocannon no ccip no missiles and no radar this thing would have been minced on the battlefield and the army politely told him to go f*** himself he was also the one who proposed The joint live fire test program and the army opted in the Navy and Air Force did not as if you fire missiles at your jet you don't have a jet anymore you have pieces of slag that you can't really study the effects of

The Pentagon award huge contracts to private corporations with your taxes. Theyre are then sold back to the Pentagon with your taxes/ deployed with your taxes , then when they are obsolete the rights and patents are sold BACK to the same companies who use it to put everything from GPS to cellphones to airline engines back onto the market (which you buy with the money you have left ) So its paid for with your taxes twice, and the sold to you. Thats called The MIC (Military industrial Complex) which President Eisenhower warned America about, and which needs a war on average every 2 years to keep those contracts and sales going. 700 billion Trump says. Thats 3/4 of a TRILLION.

@theatagamer90

4 жыл бұрын

And the American debt is 19 Trillion. So. 700 billion isn't all that much.

@Murphy82nd

4 жыл бұрын

Actually it's 7/10 of a trillion.

@kraigisboss

4 жыл бұрын

@@theatagamer90 The F-35 {which still in work} Costs almost 2 trillion now. also remember in April of this year when an f-35 went missing in japanse waters with the pilots not being found and the U.S. giving up the search so we have most likely one confirmed death from the defective aircraft.

@hellishcyberdemon7112

4 жыл бұрын

its unfortnate we cant buy that equipment that they used our tax payer money for....

@olliephelan

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, they have. Theyre mostly civilian. In fact I dont think there is any "military" manufacturing companies. Therapy ?

Hey it’s Dr Cox!!!

@bricemason3896

5 жыл бұрын

Scrubs was good

@JJvideoman

4 жыл бұрын

No that's an actor

@kendalledmunds673

4 жыл бұрын

Its crane

@The_Greedy_Orphan

4 жыл бұрын

It's sideshow bob

2:08 When he changes from General "My people and me are going to fight the commies that are at the gates of our great civilized nation, you pink tree-huggers" to General "Big Oops!" xD

It’s crazy the Bradley is actually a successful afv still used today.

@flight2k5

3 жыл бұрын

@skyZZo it completes its mission serves as an IFV?

@swordimpulse07

2 жыл бұрын

But at what cost?

@eyeli160

2 жыл бұрын

@@swordimpulse07 It was bellow budget. Development costed 8 billion while the initial projection was 12 billion

Such a great show.

Pentagon Wars 2: The Zumwalt-class guided missile destroyer and its ridiculous electromagnetic railgun Pentagon Wars 3: Littoral Combat Ship

*almost inaudible* billion... with a b. LOL

... This dude is Sideshow Bob!

@psikogeek

6 жыл бұрын

Vote for Sideshow Bob.

@madophelia4322

5 жыл бұрын

AND FRASIER

@flankspeed

5 жыл бұрын

That seems remarkably apt.

@madophelia4322

5 жыл бұрын

thanks hon

So many good actors in this film.

This movie has a high concentration of "Hey, I know that face" actors.

Chinese military: development?? No need, just copy paste what's in pentagon's book.

@MistahFox

4 жыл бұрын

Replace the T- with a Type and boom, a brand new Chinese tank.

@thenumbah1birdman

4 жыл бұрын

@@MistahFox No, you're forgetting the part where they remove almost any good components from the original russian design and replace it with cheap stuff to make production faster.

@Ruzaraneh

4 жыл бұрын

@@thenumbah1birdman wait what, what do you mean "replace it with cheap stuff" as the russian hardware is not a cheapest thing to make...

@thenumbah1birdman

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ruzaraneh the chinese tanks are basically russian knockoffs with cheaper equipment

@O-P-96

3 жыл бұрын

@@thenumbah1birdman why am I not surprised. After all, it's made in China. Of course it'd be a knockoff.

I wouldn't mind some ultimate vehicle costing or taking too much time, the problem is that by the time you actually get it either you don't need it anymore or it has become completely obsolete.

@holzmlb

10 ай бұрын

Yeah that didnt happen with the bradly, had 50% of tank in the first gulf wars and is gonna be around for awhile. Burton fabricated most this story to

As an American myself I tell you, the United States "defence" budget is ridiculous!!! 768 thousand million dollars!!! I fear more unemployment or lions more than the "enemies".

Side Show Bob makes some good points.

2:58 Top brasses in USA after the fall of Afghanistan 😂🤣😂🤣😂

Never heard of that movie - hilarious!

Haha $14 Billion in 17 years...chump change compared to today's Congressional spending.

@fisterhr

6 жыл бұрын

yeah, but you also need to adjust for inflation.

@Lupinthe3rd.

6 жыл бұрын

about $33 Billion in Todays Dollars

@patthonsirilim5739

6 жыл бұрын

1 trillion for the f35

@jooborrego4

6 жыл бұрын

That's the projected cost up until 2070 for every little part of the F-35... R&D, Fuel, ordinance, maintenance, upgrades, etc, etc, etc. For all the projected planes to be built. And the fun part is that it isn't even in 2018 dollars, but at the projected value of the dollar in 2070, through inflation projections of the dollar, making it in 2018 dollars, a 690 billion USD enterprise... for almost 3000 planes... (according to Forbes)

@fan9775

5 жыл бұрын

austenbosten Well to be fair, that's what they spent on development of a shitty chimera abomination....not to be confused with the mighty Chimera IFV of the 41st Millenium.

"BILLION? With a B?" ... "withab"

United we stand, together we fall

"Billion? With a B?" Great line!

I just realized that Holland Manners is sitting in on the Congressional committee. Wolfram & Hart sure does get around...

Awesome movie. So accurate

"I don't have the budget information...find the LT who's not here, and blame him"

'What you don't think they spent 10,000$ on a toilet set, do you? ' best movie quote that explains government spending

I love how Grammer looks at the guy handing him the notebook. As if it's his job that the general doesn't know basic information.

"The real world has ENEMIES IN IT!..." I think someone got a little inspired by Col. Jessup from A Few Good Men.

Make me think of the Oshkosh truck humvee replacement.. yep.

I learnt a new word, BREEMILLION

Lol, the development of the F-35 was estimated to be 200 billions, now it’s normal for such programs to cost more some times even doubling their original cost, but the F-35 has costed 1.5 trillions to the US tax payers. That’s 7.5 times the original cost

@taoliu3949

5 жыл бұрын

It's 1.5T over the platform's entire service lifetime including maintenance etc.

@bengrogan9710

5 жыл бұрын

The F-35 has not cost 1.5 trillion. That is the planned cost for the entire program, airframes, and 20 years of maintainance. What is the cost of a car, if you throw in parts and services for 20 years? does it still look buyable?

@allnamestakenisnot

5 жыл бұрын

@@bengrogan9710 Yeah thats one of the main reasons military or any kinda government procurement is so expensive, the life time maintenance/parts costs almost as much as the products themselves. It is unfortunate when mixed with general incompetency that it can lead to monumental overspends.

@mardiffv.8775

5 жыл бұрын

That is the old political trick. Underestimate the costs so you can sell the project. And later the costs will raise, but the project will not be cancelled. It happend in my small city of Utrecht, the Netherlands. A tram/ streetcar line had it's costs exploded, but the trams are now running. And the alderman/ woman, is still in function, because of political friendly parties.

@dasdasdadadadad8915

5 жыл бұрын

betatalk357 lol it hasn't been wasted if it has not been 20 years you numb nut.

Teamwork!

And guess what folks, this still happens today. Thing the F-35, Zumwalt, LCS, Ford class carrier... in fact, why do you think we can field a hypersonic missile in two years and only a hundred million dollars, but then spend over a billion dollars trying to get a small boat into the water.

Congress should’ve known this ahead of time.

WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH a vietnam era high ranking officer with only 18 months of deployment!? I THINK NOT GOOD SIR.

@LuftUberSoldat

5 жыл бұрын

Years, not months

@chrisv9866

2 жыл бұрын

@@LuftUberSoldat 3 year old comment, but the bars on his right sleeve denote length of time deployed overseas, each one marks 6 months, so 18 months total

For the briefest of moments I thought Partridge was going to go on an insane tirade about the enemy's plans to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

Sideshow Bob is in the business of winning!

If Hollywood remake this movie with "F35". it would still be relevant. In India, they also have similar issue with their LCA light Combat Aircraft, that took 30+ years to develop and only operational ready recently. ^_^ May be India Bollywood movie can also remake this movie ^_^

This movie does a wonderful job at painting the picture of gov. procurement from an outside view. The fact is, it's a very difficult thing to design and fabricate a vehicle for future wars. You start off with specification requirements that are set by one group of people and the project has a certain budget. Since we change our gov. so often in North America, the priorities and funding is always up in the air and the specs can change from one election to the next. Then you have advancements in technology. Then you have fabrication contracts. and then YES. you have a endless parade of Generals who give you their (wish list) of what they want. IN the end, you wind up with a over priced POS that does not work

@ddlithuania819

2 жыл бұрын

This movie is shit, downplaying and straighup lying about everything

@STScott-qo4pw

2 жыл бұрын

"North America"... umm, who might that be...?

@andyfriederichsen

8 ай бұрын

​@@ddlithuania819 Because it is based off a book of lies.

$20M to find out which pistol they wanted to replace the M9Beretta.

1:02 Gen. Partridge: “We are in the business of winning. THAT TAKES TEAMWORK!” Senator: “General, the teamwork you so prize, I take it was in full force during the development of the Bradley?” Gen. Partridge: “TEXTBOOK!” Goddamn I love Kelsey Grammer 😂 Bonus- 1:28 Senator: “How much has been spent to develop the Bradley?” Gen. Partridge: “HoW mUcH???”

True that, we used to be way more efficient when we were goal oriented and less bureaucratic.

The guy on his left, wasnt he the flush repair man in one of Frasier episodes 🤣🤣

Back when 14B was considered egregious

Ah 17 Years or Decades? Yes

This is somewhat misleading. There was a real requirement for IFV's that could support the infantry rather than a battle taxi. The soviets nailed the concept with the BMP. NATO never really caught up

@Grayghost04

4 жыл бұрын

The film's focus is not about military applications and requirement of "ONE ARMORED VEHICLE", but it is about how recklessly US military spent lots and lots of money on constant design changes and all kinds of inefficiencies and foolish decisions from the management over far-extended development. No other IFVs in the world ever required that much money and time.

@andyfriederichsen

8 ай бұрын

​​@@Grayghost04 The Bradley cost 8 million dollars in the end, which was less than the original budget of 12 billion dollars. The Army was also very much aware of the Bradley's issues and was working on fixing them before Burton got involved.

i like how he sounds like the big Antagonist in AntZ

"We're all tax payers."

Fraiser becomes a general

AHHHHHHHHH...……………..Sideshow Bob!!!!!!

"We're all taxpayers here. We're all in this together" I'm sure that was also the argument of every responsible general, admiral and project lead of the F-35 program :D

The Bradley fighting vehicle is effective though.

I worked for 35 years in every military branch in Acquisition. This movie should be mandatory viewing.

@andrerobertson3151

11 ай бұрын

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@joemama6906

10 күн бұрын

Still here

Notice that there are *6 rows* of ribbons on the general's uniform. In 2021, though, each of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has *9 rows* of ribbons on his jacket. For *what* ?

@irahzi938

2 жыл бұрын

For ass wiping

"Billion? With a B??" "...wItH a BeEeEeE..."

for a sense of perspective: 14 billion would have bought about 14 B-2 Stealth Bombers.

We need to worry about the enemy forces within more than the ones outside.

I don't understand, what was the bee for?

Fraiser, Doctor Cox and the Dread Pirate Roberts walked in to a congressional hearing...

While everyone is wanting one on the F-35, I want one on the MI-24. Troop carrier/attack helicopter, does neither well.

@iwillnoteatzebugs

2 жыл бұрын

Does attack better than cRrier tbh

Just for record. Are life fire test implemented as standard now or does the military still bugger all.

@domoncar6782

5 жыл бұрын

I don't know about US military, but most other miiltaries DO expect live fire tests. And a host of other tests before accepting anything.

Dr Frasier Crane once he left his KACL radio gig

02:32 *Billion* that was a real shocker....

See also: The Space Shuttle

It's you and your parents discussing how much homework you've actually done.....

Kelsey Grammer. Mo-nu-men-tal!

They took out the cupholders and CD changer and brought it down to a cool $13B

All I can here is Sideshow Bob...

"We are in the business of winning." Damnit General you damn straight we better be in the business of winning, I wouldn't have it any other way, who the fuck fights to lose!

“Money plane.”