The paradox as I see it is that if you try to subvert your ego by struggling against it, it only becomes stronger and wily-er. Whereas the true path to humility in art and life involves both reverence for the beauty of works of man and nature and respect for the ego in its proper role and context.
@pamela7925 күн бұрын
What Earl exhorts is to get out of the tutorial and copying obsession to discover what you’d be able to create from your own imagination and skill, it could lead to shitty work… or, it could lead to a next step discovery. I don’t feel insulted by this invitation, I feel curious and excited of my own potential as a creator. (The algorithm brought me here, and thanks to your critical video of Studio Practice now I’m subscribed to your channel. Keep the good conversations going 👏)
@Paul-talk
25 күн бұрын
... tens, probably hundreds of thousands of talented and ambitious (in rhe bast sence) of people have been "inspired" by this idea in the last half century. Its a heady and attractive idea. It is also a trap , a dead end.
@StudioPractice1Ай бұрын
I really liked your take 🔥🔥
@Paul-talk
Ай бұрын
I have been wrestling with your problem of navigating the paradox all my life. You appear to solve it by tapping into your pure creativity - respect! I have solved it by deepening my understanding of "tradition". That understanding, I say, includes and overwhelms the paradox.
@Paul-talk
Ай бұрын
...I wonder what you like about it. What I like about your video is the honest struggle to come to grips with the paradox.
@StudioPractice1Ай бұрын
Your work looks great too. Obviously you don’t f-around. Respect.
@Paul-talk
Ай бұрын
"paul-talking down" is a meme invented by members of my restricted audience. and a style. 😇
@Paul-talk
Ай бұрын
@@spencerbrainard2469 I "avoided" what?
@torgo_25 күн бұрын
I got the impression that his video wasn't really about "art in general" but was more about his specific genre, that being post-modern design, or avant-garde design, something like that. So I think that the advice is probably useful in that school of thought. But if you were a photographer, and your job is to take school photos. Or if you were a carpenter in a rural town making custom kitchen cabinets for old ladies, then his advice would be less useful. I think his advice and your advice are both useful depending on the context, and depending on that the artist is trying to achieve. I mean, most successful online artists are just making commissions of anime characters on twitter, and for their aims, they would be best served by ignoring both of these schools of thought.
@Paul-talk
25 күн бұрын
well, I've been in this business (art education) since the early 1970s) - including attending 4 art schools. So I can assure you that I understand exactly what he is intending and who and what it is for.
@torgo_
25 күн бұрын
@@Paul-talk I'm an oil painter myself, and my work is much more akin to your paintings; I don't know anything about design or prints or his kind of art. I agree with you that sometimes (in present day art practice) there is an overemphasis on originality or unconventional self-expression. And some artists seem to get completely lost in the weeds, high on the smell of their own flatulence. There is a huge amount of skill and information to be learned by studying the masters, more than anyone could learn in a lifetime. But I can also sympathise with his view that it's worthwhile to explore unfamiliar territory. Especially if the artist's intention is merely to create something that is satisfying, and to explore and enjoy the process along the way. Or to communicate an idea that is difficult to convey with standard methodology.
@Paul-talk
25 күн бұрын
..well, I'd be more impressed with this tiered BS had produced ONE SINGLE thing worth caring about.
@torgo_
24 күн бұрын
@@Paul-talk I don't really understand his art. But regardless I'm sure that there's a fair amount of skill and technique involved in the process, and that he is also communicating some ideas through the work.
@Paul-talk
24 күн бұрын
... well, technique, skill, ideas... sure, but what counts in art is POETRY. i'd be curious to see your painting... (pwrhoads44 at gmail dot com)
@timmearini703718 күн бұрын
YOoo, Paul, are you based in Italy? Ceilings looking super Italian. Nice vid, nice work!
@Paul-talk
18 күн бұрын
France
@Paul-talk
18 күн бұрын
...you are in Italy?
@Paul-talk
18 күн бұрын
are you a painter??
@timmearini7037
16 күн бұрын
@@Paul-talk yes I studied painting, now doing digital/3D design etc in NY...planning for Italy. Still love paint. Enjoyed the roast.
@connorttt-yc5uvАй бұрын
I appreciate your videos as a young struggling artist and I will purchase your book. For me the emphasis is on expression and uniqueness. After college I made the switch from classical art to abstract expressionism because I decided it would be more interesting to find myself, rather than just reiterate. However it has left me dumbfounded at times on how to go about it. I often find myself drawing classically and then fragmenting or drawing on top of it again and again. sometimes very rarely the results are favourable, often not. I feel this is a new artform that may take yet again, years to master. But then I see the farcical modern art that rises to the top (mostly via nepotism) and I feel hopeless. I see the greats as well Munch, Bacon, Baselitz and Guston etc.. that really hit on something and that gives me inspiration. It a confusing vicious cycle
@Paul-talk
Ай бұрын
My friend, unless you radically adjust your orientation, you are headed either for dissapointment, or for a uphoria of self delusion.
@connorttt-yc5uv
Ай бұрын
@@Paul-talk What do you suggest I orient toward?
@Paul-talk
Ай бұрын
my book gives that answer but getting caught up in the rediculous anxiety our society manages to impose on would be artists is a shame.
@wander5355Ай бұрын
🔥
@oilartworks9124Ай бұрын
Another Crack up 😂 you sound just like him Paul 😂🎉 ....,but you're an acception. 😉
@questoramaАй бұрын
Being dumb I don't understand this, but I probably agree with Paul if I could understand it 😸
@Paul-talk
Ай бұрын
😕
@michaelm5926Ай бұрын
👍
@bmc887113 күн бұрын
This guy’s got a nice grift going though. Imagine how many young coeds he’s gotten to ‘cross the Rubicon’ with him 😂
@Paul-talk
13 күн бұрын
Rub a con
@TheObSeRvErTheObSeRvАй бұрын
Sometimes ART HISTORY rots the BRAIN.! To much Information over load.
@shaddixamigoАй бұрын
I watched that Video just a couple of Days ago and i couldnt help but feel very put off by his stance and somewhat pseudo-intellectual examples and comparisons.
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The paradox as I see it is that if you try to subvert your ego by struggling against it, it only becomes stronger and wily-er. Whereas the true path to humility in art and life involves both reverence for the beauty of works of man and nature and respect for the ego in its proper role and context.
What Earl exhorts is to get out of the tutorial and copying obsession to discover what you’d be able to create from your own imagination and skill, it could lead to shitty work… or, it could lead to a next step discovery. I don’t feel insulted by this invitation, I feel curious and excited of my own potential as a creator. (The algorithm brought me here, and thanks to your critical video of Studio Practice now I’m subscribed to your channel. Keep the good conversations going 👏)
@Paul-talk
25 күн бұрын
... tens, probably hundreds of thousands of talented and ambitious (in rhe bast sence) of people have been "inspired" by this idea in the last half century. Its a heady and attractive idea. It is also a trap , a dead end.
I really liked your take 🔥🔥
@Paul-talk
Ай бұрын
I have been wrestling with your problem of navigating the paradox all my life. You appear to solve it by tapping into your pure creativity - respect! I have solved it by deepening my understanding of "tradition". That understanding, I say, includes and overwhelms the paradox.
@Paul-talk
Ай бұрын
...I wonder what you like about it. What I like about your video is the honest struggle to come to grips with the paradox.
Your work looks great too. Obviously you don’t f-around. Respect.
@Paul-talk
Ай бұрын
"paul-talking down" is a meme invented by members of my restricted audience. and a style. 😇
@Paul-talk
Ай бұрын
@@spencerbrainard2469 I "avoided" what?
I got the impression that his video wasn't really about "art in general" but was more about his specific genre, that being post-modern design, or avant-garde design, something like that. So I think that the advice is probably useful in that school of thought. But if you were a photographer, and your job is to take school photos. Or if you were a carpenter in a rural town making custom kitchen cabinets for old ladies, then his advice would be less useful. I think his advice and your advice are both useful depending on the context, and depending on that the artist is trying to achieve. I mean, most successful online artists are just making commissions of anime characters on twitter, and for their aims, they would be best served by ignoring both of these schools of thought.
@Paul-talk
25 күн бұрын
well, I've been in this business (art education) since the early 1970s) - including attending 4 art schools. So I can assure you that I understand exactly what he is intending and who and what it is for.
@torgo_
25 күн бұрын
@@Paul-talk I'm an oil painter myself, and my work is much more akin to your paintings; I don't know anything about design or prints or his kind of art. I agree with you that sometimes (in present day art practice) there is an overemphasis on originality or unconventional self-expression. And some artists seem to get completely lost in the weeds, high on the smell of their own flatulence. There is a huge amount of skill and information to be learned by studying the masters, more than anyone could learn in a lifetime. But I can also sympathise with his view that it's worthwhile to explore unfamiliar territory. Especially if the artist's intention is merely to create something that is satisfying, and to explore and enjoy the process along the way. Or to communicate an idea that is difficult to convey with standard methodology.
@Paul-talk
25 күн бұрын
..well, I'd be more impressed with this tiered BS had produced ONE SINGLE thing worth caring about.
@torgo_
24 күн бұрын
@@Paul-talk I don't really understand his art. But regardless I'm sure that there's a fair amount of skill and technique involved in the process, and that he is also communicating some ideas through the work.
@Paul-talk
24 күн бұрын
... well, technique, skill, ideas... sure, but what counts in art is POETRY. i'd be curious to see your painting... (pwrhoads44 at gmail dot com)
YOoo, Paul, are you based in Italy? Ceilings looking super Italian. Nice vid, nice work!
@Paul-talk
18 күн бұрын
France
@Paul-talk
18 күн бұрын
...you are in Italy?
@Paul-talk
18 күн бұрын
are you a painter??
@timmearini7037
16 күн бұрын
@@Paul-talk yes I studied painting, now doing digital/3D design etc in NY...planning for Italy. Still love paint. Enjoyed the roast.
I appreciate your videos as a young struggling artist and I will purchase your book. For me the emphasis is on expression and uniqueness. After college I made the switch from classical art to abstract expressionism because I decided it would be more interesting to find myself, rather than just reiterate. However it has left me dumbfounded at times on how to go about it. I often find myself drawing classically and then fragmenting or drawing on top of it again and again. sometimes very rarely the results are favourable, often not. I feel this is a new artform that may take yet again, years to master. But then I see the farcical modern art that rises to the top (mostly via nepotism) and I feel hopeless. I see the greats as well Munch, Bacon, Baselitz and Guston etc.. that really hit on something and that gives me inspiration. It a confusing vicious cycle
@Paul-talk
Ай бұрын
My friend, unless you radically adjust your orientation, you are headed either for dissapointment, or for a uphoria of self delusion.
@connorttt-yc5uv
Ай бұрын
@@Paul-talk What do you suggest I orient toward?
@Paul-talk
Ай бұрын
my book gives that answer but getting caught up in the rediculous anxiety our society manages to impose on would be artists is a shame.
🔥
Another Crack up 😂 you sound just like him Paul 😂🎉 ....,but you're an acception. 😉
Being dumb I don't understand this, but I probably agree with Paul if I could understand it 😸
@Paul-talk
Ай бұрын
😕
👍
This guy’s got a nice grift going though. Imagine how many young coeds he’s gotten to ‘cross the Rubicon’ with him 😂
@Paul-talk
13 күн бұрын
Rub a con
Sometimes ART HISTORY rots the BRAIN.! To much Information over load.
I watched that Video just a couple of Days ago and i couldnt help but feel very put off by his stance and somewhat pseudo-intellectual examples and comparisons.
Lol looks like his dad