i say dinkey king was the psychological winner, he held for so long against three players!

@brodzillagaming

2 жыл бұрын

Very solid play from dinky, absolutely loved it

@laydan9500

2 жыл бұрын

@@brodzillagaming well i am not a good aoe player, don´t get the building orders, but i like how beasty mislead everyone with building up his fortifications. He did what you could call a silent betrayal.

@achilles8804

2 жыл бұрын

@@laydan9500 only so silent, his score was skyrocketing and core and recon could see it they just didn’t do anything about it, 30k score isn’t very silent tbh lol

@laydan9500

2 жыл бұрын

@@achilles8804 true

@figulapt3784

2 жыл бұрын

@@achilles8804 isn't the score not shown on the players?

Special points for Dinkey and for his in-game joke

@dinkeyking8746

2 жыл бұрын

@allwhatyouwant

2 жыл бұрын

What was the in-game joke?

@STATIKxxx

2 жыл бұрын

@@dinkeyking8746 felt bad for you man.

Beasty might have won the game but dinkey won our hearts!

@Aussie_Drongo, these outback octogons are so good mate. Its like watching a soap opera, the betrayals and teaming up is so great with the ups and downs.

Just gotta say, super impressive play by Dinkey King!! The true winner this match. Good old Aussie resilience

@achilles8804

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, unfortunately nothing to show for all the effort due to the points system

DinkeyKing did amazing job this game, they should have all been going against Beastyqt way before, it was clearly that the will doing something like this.

I sincerely hope that in the next game those 3 players are immediately teamed up upon by everyone else.

@achilles8804

2 жыл бұрын

Best outcome

@k.e.v.2011

2 жыл бұрын

Why though?

@achilles8804

2 жыл бұрын

@@k.e.v.2011 because otherwise there is literally no downside or consequence to this top 3 pact and why should’ve every player do this? And if that happens it’s not really a FFA anymore just like this one

@AgentLando

2 жыл бұрын

But why these 3 specifically? In every Outback Octagon ffa there has consistently been teams and will always be since it's allowed in the rules.

@k.e.v.2011

2 жыл бұрын

Wam was also allied to Don and State, only that State killed Don instead of attacking Wam's wonder with him and Simptom. So it's not something new to this tournament.

was kinda lame that not a single person ever attempted to go after beasty, his score was top throughout the entire game. the ending to this one was obvious

The Outback Octagon is so much better than Red bull Wololo or golden league. so much fun. i hope we can see some pro level team matches as well.

Dinkey is a gigaChad. He deserves his own in game monument after that.

I thought that Mongols without walls would make it hard to defend a Wonder, but boy is the outpost spam just as strong!

The RTS equivalent of Battle Royale baby. I feel like this can make AOE4 explode.

Go Dinkey!

Curious as to why Core or Recon didn't go for a sacred victory

@ericklimones

2 жыл бұрын

I think that they didn't have the resouece to defend the sacred site. Also, the only way to defend them would be if the ally against beasty, but beasty has so many resource and high score, that beasty will be the second place, which means that the ally that protect the sacred site but didn't capture will be third place. So, it wasn't a good allience at the end

@WillieFungo

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, they could have used the faster sacred site timer to bait out beasty's army and then sniped the wonder. They basically donated this game to beasty.

I wish we could see the chat log throughout the game because in these types of games, points, army sizes, position, etc etc, are collectively only half the game. The conversation between players constitutes the other half of how the game plays out.

These large teams are kind of taking the fun out of it, this one felt the least like a FFA out of all of them tbh, 3 players focusing down individuals until they’re the last 3 remaining is definitely not in the spirit of the event

@Alexander-zr1nj

2 жыл бұрын

Beasty used Core and and RecoN... they will have learned until the next game, Dinky King is still the winner of this game. Extremely entertaining game, where else have you seen a FFA like this.

@anujmchitale

2 жыл бұрын

So you want a rule of one of the lobbies of AOE2 where 2 players aren't allowed to attack a 3rd one at the same time? Those FFAs run for hours, the record being 13 hours, as casted by T90. Professional players don't have time for that. It won't be fun to spectate either, after the 1st time. On this particular map, if 3 of them hadn't teamed up, the game would have run another hour or so!

@achilles8804

2 жыл бұрын

@@anujmchitale maybe so, could’ve gone for another hour we’ll never know, definitely not asking for 13hr games and no teaming at all but I stand by that this is becoming very common im this event and ruining the spirit, a disincentive would be nice

@samblack5313

2 жыл бұрын

@@achilles8804 Check my post

@anujmchitale

2 жыл бұрын

@@achilles8804 The only spirit in a competition is winning. Other 5 players were free to team up as well. It is still FFA because in the end only 1 person came 1st. Beasty had to work for that plan all along. If others couldn't do anything about it, it's their issue. Certainly not ruining anything for me.

I just want to point out that the wonder didnt take a single point of damage. That was absolutely flawless.

@jaclee8598

2 жыл бұрын

Getting to it is more difficult than a sperm reaching an egg, cause none actually reach it.

@HDIceWatch

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaclee8598 true

I don't think the problem was the alliance, it was the incredible naïveté of core and recon.

@Alexander-zr1nj

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, Beasty used them to his advantage which most likely will be punished in the next game.

@larspersson1546

2 жыл бұрын

Well, this alliance was set up before the game, nothing to change about that. Sad and boring though...

@eyeofhorus1301

2 жыл бұрын

@@larspersson1546 Are the enemies told that they formed an alliance? If not thats a cheating unfair advantage

@larspersson1546

2 жыл бұрын

@@eyeofhorus1301 Not exactly, they have to figure it out themselves, but at that point it seems to be way too late 😅

@eyeofhorus1301

2 жыл бұрын

@@larspersson1546 exactly, prearranged alliances without enemy being told is straight cheating lol

I've mostly been a big fan of the alliances, and I think on the whole they are still very cool, but this game left a bit of a sour taste in my mouth. It was very anticlimactic as soon as you can see that the bot 3 players are allied. It just becomes the three of them ganging up on everyone else and then agreeing to split the win between themselves. The rest of the players never really stand a chance and then they just collect easy points. On the whole I LOVE this tournament, so much that I want it to become a mainstream thing that we get to see a LOT more of, but this triple alliance felt a little...crappy? Lame? IDK. Just a bit of a letdown for the game.

@sanethoughtspreader

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree! Dinky king felt like he was up against impossible odds.

@lucagiorgetti968

2 жыл бұрын

100% agree. Dinkey moral winner

@shadowyking123

2 жыл бұрын

Man, I wonder why Core didn’t flip the sacred sites for a faster timer than Beasty. The two definitely had a shot, but such a narrow one.

@foxx1275

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, think that was just a mistake of the other players. When they recognized the triple alliance, they should have formed themselves instead of attacking each other. Someone should have communicated that they were allied, and then have helped some of the others recover rather than finish them. For example, if Dinkey had communicated with Snoopa and let him recover, that could have been enough to at least take out one of the three before splitting up. Same with Dinkey and Puppypaw.

@lyricofwise6894

2 жыл бұрын

@@foxx1275 strong agreement with u, since one can rebuttal with the idea of, they can see that alliance coming sooner (in some sense all winning is seeing things much sooner than other ppl), or compromise that alliance in different ways while still have options and chances available, or join their alliance b4 its too late of convincing them. There is merit to both sides of argument I think. By the time they 3rd or 4th assault of all 3 vs dinkey, maybe it was too late of changingn their minds, compromising their alliance Though that 1 v 3 was ideally epic in a specific way lol

The late game 3vs1 is just kinda sad.

I think it’s more this map than the alliance rule. Everyone’s too separated by water so the alliances lasted longer.

I saluted DK the entire time as his landmarks fell. God bless you Dk God bless you

There should be a Gigachad rule that if a player defends for X time against Y players they get bonus points. IE living 10 minutes 3v1 is 5 points. Living 15 against a 2v1 is 3. And so forth. The 3v1 etc being an 'all in' style attack like we saw the 3 army charge into Dinky.

Maybe awarding points to players who successfully hold for a time against teams of 3+ players would discourage this, dinkey was a hero for holding so long!

Fun to watch! Didn’t love the 3v1!

At this point you should just start awarding style points.

Absolutely one of the best games I've watched on this channel

You don't have to split points on landmark kills. Just count the number of buildings razed for each player to see who got the last hit. 25:32

@imperator9343

8 ай бұрын

I think Landmarks don't get counted. I've seen my postgame where I've sniped my opponent and there was fewer than buildings razed

love these match ups so much fun to watch and great casting ... thumbs up!

I’m loving these FFA games, please continue.

looks like Snoopa is getting too used to the villager only challenge

I saw this game on twitch but came here to leave my like and comment to show my support. Been loving so much these FFA Game of Thrones type of shesh So much more strategy involved, basically every game have the spices that we all love!

DInkey sniping snoopa, attack move is a dangerous tool.

I love this outback octagon! Would be great to see the scores of the tournament overall..

They could have trigger sacred victory(

Love this series!

man, beastyqt is a master Tactician, I really love watching him playing this game

DINKEY IS A GIGACHAD

That 3v1 was absolutely disgusting haha

This series is so exciting to watch

@xarmanhsh2981

Жыл бұрын

are you getting annoyed by the alliances?

Drongo, your content is great. here is one for the algorithms

I fully concur with a midstream rule change... 3v1 alliances make for bad viewing. Watching the never ending triple team against Dinky... an eye roll with every single wave.

42:14 poor Core he got the bullying going on

This map is amazing

That’s was awesome !!

funny i remember this map design from age of empires on the nitendo ds, that was a pretty fun game for back in the day without real good mobile games

I didnt care for the 3 on 1 for so long... Wasnt a FFA at all!

There should be additional points for Kills, I am pretty sure Dinkey King had the most kills in this game. And Beastyqt is a Genius, he knew they will come for snipe with cav, so he made Spears... now, anyone his position would have wasted those resources on most expensive units or most DPS units.

did beasty ever get the stone trade upgrade? i noticed his ships didnt bring in stone, so either the upgrade doesnt afect trade ships or he forgot, which kinda makes sense since its an upgrade thats at the market and he probaly never made one

that late game bullying of dinkeyking reminds me of some modded ultra hard custom maps VS ai in supreme commander, map is just filled with hostiles moving in formation towards your base and if you cant set up a wall of turrets and defense to grind them down, they will grind you down instead.

Wonder what would happen if the final 3 players all built wonders at the same time lol.

That was a masterclass from Beasty

@soeppoes8949

2 жыл бұрын

If you call an absolutely toxic play-style a masterclass, then yeah, I guess!

Recon: gonna catch them all XD

Dinkey king is the winner in my heart

Dinkey doing Kingdom of Heaven defense shit is the highlight of this match. I admire what he did. Everything after that were pretty much predictable.

holding 1v3 must get 1 point for every 10 minutes

Dinkey what a chad 1v3 geeze...

✨round 640✨

What does the community need to do to get the devs to make this a ranked playlist? This is such an addictive game type. Any updates around this?

This game has been hella fun to watch what an amazing map which promoted beautiful gameplay. I think something needs to nerf teaming but not remove it. This 3 team was interesting because beasty just hard played the other 2 and core could have gone for a sacred victory. Although this win happening might itself discourage the naive alliance that recon and core took part in.

this tournament has been really good up to this point but when three people team up before even the start, it kinda takes the fun out of the game!

@sagebauer1077

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, not sure how to prevent that...

@samblack5313

2 жыл бұрын

@@sagebauer1077 Check my post

The judges shouldn’t try and ban alliances. Not attacking you’re neighbours until the opportune moment is a natural and intelligent way to play FFA. And it’s very fun for us to watch.

I think destroying a landmark should award points, rather than only the final knockout.

@achilles8804

2 жыл бұрын

Problem there comes in with China and the Abbasid, heavy China games would be flush with points but taking out the Abbasid would be very unworth the effort

That one goes to Dinkey lol

DINKEY KING #1 the best, we love you, all with you :D!!!

Little sad core didn't go right for the sacred sites. As soon as he wonder went up he had 5 min to take them and force them to abandon the Defence.

1:16:47 dude still fighting even after death.

O god, there goes another 1,5 hours of my life. Nice

Recon is a bully... Seriously give the man a chance ..

did Beasty ever play SC2 Risk Legacy? Classic strategy from him, makes me think he might have cut his teeth in that custom game because he really does seem the most practiced in the all important psychological long game.

How about making it so scoring isn't just about winning, but about killing the most land marks. Points per land mark kill. No wonder victory.

New meta is man at arms and crossbows

@achilles8804

2 жыл бұрын

Well new meta is 3v1s it seems but yes Dinkeys hold was incredible

Wish you'd show more of everyone during the first half hour.

DINKEY KING!

Deja vu, you said the other map was the first water map xD xD

I bet snoopa was pissing himself laghing...wasnt he China in his first game too lol

How do I play on a map like that? Is it a mod, or is there a seed?

drongo love me back

Going from bloodbaths to the soap operas? That's something new. BTW, if you wanna to disable this much of teaming, just disable the scores for how long you've survived.

@achilles8804

2 жыл бұрын

Core and Recon could see Beasty’s score climbing they could’ve moved to take him out with Dinkey, unfortunately you’re likely correct and they saw his high score and said fuck it 2nd and 3rd sounds cool

G'd day fella

Dinkey should have deleted all his landmarks himself and no one gets points lol

Shouldn't have built the Meinwerk palace in beasty's game

Oooh... if an admin deems that your alliance contributed to your victory, all players in the alliance split the points. And that's all people that "collaborated". Makes two team alliances maybe feasible... 3 teams start diminishing returns for everyone

@achilles8804

2 жыл бұрын

Might be worth it tbh these teams are becoming a bit much for this, 3v1s until they’re the final 3 is just rough

@obnoxiouspotato6147

2 жыл бұрын

This could be good

@samblack5313

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, got to find ways to make the formation of alliances cost something. Check my post 🤙

@Rated314

2 жыл бұрын

@@samblack5313 the simplest step, it's too for it. Just don't tell them which pod they are in. That way they can't have diplomacy talks beforehand... and have to rely entire on global chat. Where the other players can see it in nope it out of existence.

@xangry2834

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rated314 they can still use their mobile phones to pm others in discord. you seem to lack braincells. theres 1000 ways they can still team up and you wont know about it. there will always be cheaters who do that. so its better to allow doing it beforehand so everyone will have fair chances instead of some sneaky shitters

can i get the map seed for this map?

These are so entertaining to watch but I can’t help but be a little disappointed with how these pro players keep treating teams, several of these games have ended with one super player winning bc another player or players work with them the whole time and gift wrap the victory for them. Dinkey was clearly beaten and out of the game for all intents but both Core and Recon continued hard focusing him regardless of Beasty having 30k score and Dinkey only having a few thousand

@paniccheck

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, you would expect to see the alliances break up far earlier. But the players are just doing what the rules reward. When they see they are in a losing position they are very quick to surrender to the leading player in exchange for better position and points. This all leads to snowballing as there is no incentive to try and topple the leader. I think if it was winner take all you would see much more chaotic game, since you have nothing to lose by fighting back.

@achilles8804

2 жыл бұрын

@@paniccheck all correct unfortunately, the rules the way they are an alliance like this is nothing but beneficial to all of them, feels like the admins here really need to revise some things to shake things loose again

@Deathskull0001

2 жыл бұрын

If it was winner takes all, everyone would turtle and wonder. Core and Recin just played into beasty's hand hard. The rules do not reward this, lmao, they just messed up. We saw plenty of backstabs in other games.

how can i get this map?

What was the map seed?

Dinkey is the real victor of this game.

Why didnt Blue or Oj take the sacred sites?

How knows the seed of this map

I think that just limiting alliances to two players would help preventing three or more players from dominating the others.

if they ran bot masses of horses withouth the transport ships they could haven got that...

@aussie_drango. Why didn't they just capture the sacred sites and pull Beastie out? Couldn't they have forced him to fight a 2 on1?

To be honest, China is not the best civ to play on ffa, it is the Mongols. The ability to get all resources from bounty and trading is so damn OP. In late game when everybody is selling stuff to get wood/stone/gold, the mongols just get those for “free” and that’s it’s a huge advantage. Plus the ability to move your landmarks and all those damn outpost…

@AgentLando

2 жыл бұрын

China's definitely the best, remember that ffa when everybody thought that the 2 China lost, and they were the last 2 left? Also, Beasty made a tier list on ffa civs(and it's not just him but also other people that play ffa) and China was no 1 by a longshot.

thought this was a ffa not 3v1v1v1

Beastyqt should've been target number one, he is just too good, idk why they didn't target him.

I enjoy the alliances as a viewer, but I feel as a ruling kinda perspective, it’s sensible to rule out alliances.

didn't feel like an ffa

Players that don't ally should get 3 bonus points and +1 bonus point for solo non-alliance kills. That gives players a gauranteed 7 points for killing someone and playing solo which heavily encourages early aggression and massively benefits anyone that can kill 2-3 players and doesn't just camp in a corner for an hour.

@samblack5313

2 жыл бұрын

Check my post, gotta punish the formation of alliances.

I hear they talk about a Beastie is that BeastyQT? why deny the cutie he is?