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@brokenbridge6316

Жыл бұрын

You make very fine n informative video's.

@azkiaalfin5757

Жыл бұрын

hope there is an Indonesian version

Жыл бұрын

Do you know about the Siege of Cephalonia of 1500? I think it would be interesting to see on the canal, because it was a combined Venetian, Spanish and French army against the castle of Saint George which was in Ottoman hands. It is a good example of what sieges were like at the beginning of the 16th century and it is said that it was one of the first sieges where military mines were used to destroy walls. It is part of the Third Turkish-Venetian War (1499-1503).

@melchiorvonsternberg844

Жыл бұрын

Are you Italian...?

@ggoddkkiller1342

Жыл бұрын

For obvious reasons you forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...

The Staggering difference that a bad commander makes in any situation...

@rickjames18

Жыл бұрын

Yup, still makes a difference today. When countries promote people based on status or other (political correctness) instead of merit it leads to disasters in times of war.

@Fallout3131

Жыл бұрын

@@rickjames18 100%

@clintmoor422

Жыл бұрын

yeah, lala mustafa pasha was a bad commander and they still won at famagusta.

I was lucky to visit Famagusta. The walls are enormous.

@miliba

Жыл бұрын

Did you fly into the Turkish part of Cyprus?

@clintmoor422

Жыл бұрын

from google maps is also visible

@7gromojar

Жыл бұрын

I visited couple of cities on both sides. Not knowing anything about destination of my trip. Wonderfull holiday.

The high production quality of this channel, combined with the era it covers make it such a gem. And with the level of production it's even more impressive that the videos come out with the frequency they do. I've loved this channel for years and thought I'd just add a comment to help the algorithm.

@SandRhomanHistory

Жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you!

@WelcomeToDERPLAND

Жыл бұрын

This really is an extremely under-represented time in history, despite being so fundamental to the formation of the modern state. It almost feels like the least covered topic in history channels here on the tube- besides perhaps pre-history, but at least that one has the excuse of being extremely limited on information.

@butterman0007

Жыл бұрын

I can't believe this is free

Nicosia is probably the least staggering siege you ever covered

@SandRhomanHistory

Жыл бұрын

True, that's why Famagusta is in there as well :P

@ggoddkkiller1342

Жыл бұрын

For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...

@m1821Z

8 күн бұрын

@@ggoddkkiller1342 least obvious turkish propaganda post:

@ggoddkkiller1342

8 күн бұрын

@@m1821Z Everything you don't like is propaganda for you, right?

@m1821Z

8 күн бұрын

@@ggoddkkiller1342 when you post thinly veiled, sensationalised bullshit, without any attempts to be impartial, trying to reinforce the myth of this oh so respectable and benevolent Ottoman Empire, people tend to see it for how it is; as propaganda.

Coincidentally I just finished reading Roger Crowley's 'Empires of the Sea: The Final Battle for the Mediterranean 1521-1580' today and it has some chapters on this siege. A really great book, you could tell Crowley has a background in Literature in that it's very well written and readable.

@Oxtocoatl13

Жыл бұрын

I'll have to pick that up! I've read Crowley's other book, City of Fortune, which follows the fortunes of Venice until about the fall of Constantinople. It's fantastic read, Crowley does know how to bring the medieval Mediterranean to life. I always thought it ended too soon but now I know there's a sequel.

@3Dbubble

Жыл бұрын

Fantastic book

can't wait for the battle of Lepanto! This channel made me love and understand the early modern era over the past few years. Thank you!

@michailkulischov2820

Жыл бұрын

why becose you dont see some dokus you beliv it like the romans and tehy nr system how tehy calculat it ?

@SenorOzone

Жыл бұрын

@@michailkulischov2820 want to try that sentence again?

@michailkulischov2820

Жыл бұрын

@@SenorOzone no man im free do what i want or im a slave

@melchiorvonsternberg844

Жыл бұрын

When I was a ten year old kid, I discovered a book about this sea battle in our school libary. Now, decades later, I'm excited about the video. Miguel de Cervantes, fought in this battle, from which the Ottoman fleet, never recovered! Greeds from central Europe...

@michailkulischov2820

Жыл бұрын

@@melchiorvonsternberg844 how they get the Tools for the shipwork Show us the old Tools, how they lift the goods, you know how long the Kölner Dome build or the spain Kathedrale, and in past they was quiker lol what about the Wood how spain get them in mega t or how lol, its like napoleon go to russia with horses you know what food need a horse at a day and the horses bring the food and the other horse bring the food for the food horses

Again the high quality i love from your every video. Now i have a single desire and that is to see the battle of Lepanto covered by you.

@SandRhomanHistory

Жыл бұрын

thank you! Lepanto will be released in four weeks from today.

400 people killed by the countermine, can't even visualize it, absolutely crazy. Any survivors who saw must have told that story frequently the rest of their lives.

Man... what happened to Marco has to be one of the worst possible fates for anyone let alone someone betrayed so heinously... barbaric.

@attilakatona-bugner1140

Жыл бұрын

Sadly it wasn t that rare in ottoman affairs. It was rare enough that ottomans still had some trustworthyness, and that actually allowed it from time to time to happen

@z54964380

Жыл бұрын

It’s like a double edge sword m, on one hand it could potentially terrify their enemies to surrender before the siege, on the other hand it could also motivate the defenders to fight to the death, like those knights on that island which name I cannot recall who blew up the entire castle after it was overrun by the Turks and killed a lot of em, basically crippled the campaign of the Turks.

@WelcomeToDERPLAND

Жыл бұрын

@@z54964380 Well yeah, but this was after the siege was over, and after they had agreed to surrender terms.

@somewhere6

Жыл бұрын

Certainly barbaric. Also potentially counter-productive. It could terrorize people into surrender but also urge them to fanatical defence knowing that could be the fate AFTER surrender. Also, if you employ those tactics, what mercy will be shown to you if you lose?

@chedabu

Жыл бұрын

@@attilakatona-bugner1140 still true to this day

Veneto guy here. Marcantonio Brigadin is still considered an hero here in Veneto.

@clintmoor422

Жыл бұрын

did he do anything besides defending famagusta?

@kuvikina

Жыл бұрын

next time when we knock the door surrender immediately without a tough fight and dont execute war prisoners.

@WFASPigeonGang

Жыл бұрын

@@kuvikina "and don't execute prisoners" - turkish massacre of Otranto citizens flashbacks

@ggoddkkiller1342

Жыл бұрын

For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...

@WFASPigeonGang

Жыл бұрын

@@ggoddkkiller1342 Sorry to say that but that's a whole lot of BS to justify the betrayal as legit. Why no one, except the turks, claim the existance of these 50 pilgrims? Why should have they been in Cyprus? Why don't you write that he was freakin' executed at the public column, where the civilians saw the execution and then reported it all over europe? Why no tales were told about skinned prisoners execution or about their rotting bodies? Why should your logic justify the death of hundreds soldiers and civilians? Why should Bragadin have mockingly told to Lala that he skinned prisoners alive after harshly negotiating for his soldiers lives? "I could go on but still "your" version doesn't make any sense at all, it's pure propaganda to justify the turkish actions.

He sent a blind monk... guy labelled "Blind Monk" appears. For some reason that made me grin.

@SandRhomanHistory

Жыл бұрын

:P

I accidentally stumbled upon your channel, and I'm extremely glad I did. I love everything from the illustrations to the narration and details provided. Such a pity your channel is so underrated. Keep this extraordinary work up!

Ive just visited Cyprus and crossed into the northern part of Nicosia. You can see Greek and Turkish influences everywhere, no matter which side of the buffer zone. I especially enjoyed Büyük Han, the old inn.

@karlscher5170

Жыл бұрын

Sht culture

@clintmoor422

Жыл бұрын

really a multicultural hub!

Those fortresses are insane

@Skankhunt668

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryLover23 they had no chance

@dayros2023

Жыл бұрын

At Famagusta they were very good.

Kenneth’s vol III covers this, loved it overall

This is one of my favorite channels. I'm always thankful for a new video.

Yes, the battle of Lepanto is finally coming!

@etuanno

Жыл бұрын

He wrote in 4 weeks in another comment

@yusuf3005

Ай бұрын

Osmanlı Sultanı: Siz İnebahtı'da gemilerimizi yakmakla sakalımızı kestiniz. Biz ise Kıbrıs'ı fethederek kolunuzu kestik. Sakal tekrar çıkar ama kol geri gelmez

woww, the production quality always wows me, keep doing this please

What an engaging and well made video!

@SandRhomanHistory

Жыл бұрын

thank you!

had to rewatch this a few days later and notice so many more details. i think your videos might lend themselves to being watched again in a few years time.

man these videos keep getting prettier, awesome!! thanks for all the effort

Spoiler alert, but Bradagin's death was something straight out of one of those Wrong Turn movies

@clintmoor422

Жыл бұрын

those movies are so bad :P

@andreweden9405

Жыл бұрын

Or Game of Thrones.

Incredible history, thank you!

So the Battle of Lepanto is next?! I hope the video about it will arrived soon because I always wanted to see what it really looked like!

@user-cg2tw8pw7j

Жыл бұрын

A Spanish king, what should I do after this great battle? Yes, destroy my fleet against Algeria in order to make the Ottomans strong again.

Really cool, thanks a bunch for sharing with us G

The story of intrigue on how the Ottomans came to break the peace treaty with Venice is just as interesting. Jewish banker José Nasi wanted revenge on Venice (for having confiscated his riches) and convinced Selim of invading the island, even offering to partly finance the campaign.

@karlscher5170

Жыл бұрын

Musl im hordes as the weapon of the J ew. Nothing changed

@scottanos9981

Жыл бұрын

No surprise the tribe Jose Nasi belonged to was banished from 109 nations throughout history. Their subversion is unmatched lol

@karlscher5170

Жыл бұрын

@@ahmetozkan438 not so contained after 1949 ahaha

@user-cg2tw8pw7j

Жыл бұрын

​@@ahmetozkan438 Why did the Jews of Spain flee to the Ottoman Empire?

@ggoddkkiller1342

Жыл бұрын

For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...

Very well done very interesting. Really enjoyed the narration.

Very interesting, thank you. Your vids are getting much better.

Great work as usual thank u

Great video as always

I feel sorry for Antonio Bragadin ☹️

@alvisejensonbusetto

Жыл бұрын

In our homeland (Veneto) he is considered as a hero.

@matthew7027

11 ай бұрын

He murderd Turkish pilgrims and prisoners after surrender. He got what he deserved.

Excellent video as usual @SandRhomanHistory you really do cover the most staggering sieges! A video on the siege of Caffa would be great as it was the eventual cause of the black death. Maybe you could include it in a wider video on biological warfare in sieges.

Great video, siege videos are my favorite of yours

Keep up the amazing work

PLEASE!!! Do a video of Lepanto! Very good work on this video!

Babe wake up a new SandRhoman video just dropped

@SandRhomanHistory

Жыл бұрын

Enjoy, I guess :P

My favorite channel! Keep it up 👌

Awesome as always

A vid on naval sieges would be interesting

@clintmoor422

Жыл бұрын

what would a naval siege be? a siege of an island?

@WelcomeToDERPLAND

Жыл бұрын

@@clintmoor422 Sieges that had a large naval involvement as part of the besieging force, so artillery, landing troops, blockades- its not a very often covered topic from what I've seen here on history-tube.

@danielrogge3085

Жыл бұрын

La Rochelle?

Yes, a new SandRhoman History video. :)

Yessss today i was already scrolling your video list in the hope i missed one

Excellent video 📹 Good graphics 👌

@SandRhomanHistory

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thanks be for Our Lady's intercession at the Lepanto.

You cannot negotiate a peaceful truce , if your enemy lies and has No honour

This is how you make Veneto sad before going to bed. It still hurts after more than 400 years

Dandolo's like that rich kid that got everything fed to him with a silver spoon and grew lazy and wound up a failure.

The book Empires of the Sea is a great depiction of not only this siege but of Malta and the Battle of Lepanto. Highly recommend

Please SandRhoman, in 1567 the zayyanids don't exist anymore, be careful with the maps on north africa (it was the same on the video on the siege of malta)

i know that Lepanto is famous, but please do cover it. Your videos always add to my understanding.

I'm sure this conquest will have no repercussions that will echo into modern times, at all.

@samsonsoturian6013

Жыл бұрын

The Turks would have invaded regardless of the island's ethnic composition.

great video

I would advice you to take a look at Siege of Nagykanizsa 1601, as it is probably the most succesfull and perfect siege defense in history, it would be a great content for your amazing channel

Well narrated. I advise the book of Excerpta Cypria for those who wants to know the details.

Would be cool with some more videos about the wars and battles between the countries around the Baltic Sea.

I am from Cyprus and yesterday I was in Famagusta. Walls are standing still as well as in Nicosia. Loved how you used the original cathedral in illustrations.

good work

Cypriot Greek has often been referred to as a dialect of Greek (Contossopoulos, 2000); a variety that is linguistically proximal to Standard Modern Greek (Grohmann and Kambanaros, 2016 Grohmann et al. 2016), which is the official language in the environment our participants acquire language. Although the official language in education and other formal settings is indeed Standard Modern Greek, research has shown the boundaries between the two varieties, Standard Modern Greek and Cypriot Greek, and their distribution across different registers is not straightforward (Grohmann and Leivada, 2012, Tsiplakou et al. 2016). At times mixing is attested without code-switching being in place, while no official characterization has been provided for any of these terms in this specific context. The question arising in this context is whether the attested variants emerging in mixed speech repertoires are functionally equivalent for an individual speaker. The concept of "competing grammars goes back to Krich 11989, 1991), who proposed that speakers project multiple grammars to deal with ambiguous input This concept has been explicitly connected to the relation between Standard and Cypriot Greek (Papadopo et al. 2014; plaka 2014; Grohman et al 2017) The two varieties have differences in all levels of linguistic analysis and often monolingual speakers of Standard Modern Greek judge Cypriot Greek as unintelligible. At the same time, Greek Cypriot speakers do not always provide reliable judgments of their own speech since these are often clouded by sociolinguistic attitudes toward using the non-standard variety. Cypriot Greek lacks official codification and its status as a different language/variety is often denied by Greek Cypriots who may downplay the differences between Standard Modern Greek and Cypriot Greek and describe the latter as just an accent (Arvaniti, 2010). As the discussion of the different variants will make clear in the next section, the two varieties have differences across levels of linguistic analysis and these differences vastly exceed the sphere of phonetics or phonology. All speakers of Cypriot Greek have exposure to Standard Modern Greek through education and other mediums and in this way, they are competent to different degrees in both varieties. We employ the term 'bilectal' (Rowe and Grohmann, 2013, 2014) to refer to the participants of this study, although it is not entirely clear that the varieties they are exposed to are Standard Modern Greek and Cypriot Greek or that they are only two varieties, under the assumption that a continuum is in place. For instance, the term 'Cypriot Standard Greek' (Arvaniti, 2010) has been proposed to refer to an emerging variety that may count as the standard in the context of Cyprus. This would be a sociolinguistically 'high' variety (Ferguson, 1959) that is used in formal settings, although its degree of proximity with Standard Modern Greek is difficult to determine with precision because great fluidity is attested across different settings and geographical areas. At the school environment, for example, one notices the existence of three different varieties: Cypriot Greek, as the home variety that is used when students interact with each other, Standard Modern Greek, as the language of the teaching material, and another standard-like variety that incorporates elements from both varieties, and is present in the repertoire of both the students and the instructors (Sophocleous and Wilks. 2010; Hadjioannou et al., 2011; Leivada et al.. 2017).

@vangelisskia214

Жыл бұрын

"90% of today's Turks are the descendants of yesterday's Greeks." John Kingsley Birge, A guide to Turkish area study

@vangelisskia214

Жыл бұрын

“Why did the Turkish state want to hide that the Anatolian people largely had Greco-Roman roots? What was the reason for this secret? Why were they afraid?"Why did they carefully conceal the Greek origin of the large Turkish-speaking masses who were Islamized and due to linguistic assimilation?” Professor Mehmet Efe Caman

@Nomadicenjoyer31

Жыл бұрын

@@vangelisskia214 In the European cartography of the fifteenth to eighteenth centuries, "Grecia" included Dalmatia, Serbia, Bulgaria, the coastal area of Asia Minor, Albania, and the Aegean islands (Karathanasis 1991, 9). For the Western audience in Germany, Austria, and Hungary, "Greek" (Greek Orthodox) was synonymous with Orthodoxy (Stoianovich 1960, 290). Regardless of their ethnic origins, most Greek Orthodox Balkan merchants of the eighteenth century spoke Greek and often assumed Greek names; they were referred to as "Greeks" in the sense that they were of the "Greek" religion. During the eighteenth century, the ge- ographic dispersion and the urban nature of the Greek ethnie in the Balkan peninsula transformed the "Greeks" into a Balkan urban class (Svoronos 1981, 58). Hence, the "Greeks" were not only the ethnic Greeks but generally included all the Orthodox merchants and peddlers, many of whom were Grecophone or Hellenized Vlachs, Serbs, or Orthodox Albanians. Roudometof, V. (2001) Nationalism, globalization, and orthodoxy: The social origins of ethnic conflict in the Balkans. Westport, CT: Greenwood Press. p.54

@Nomadicenjoyer31

Жыл бұрын

@@vangelisskia214 Indeed “Greek” was an emic term in the Hellenistic period, referring generally to both the original Greeks and the Hellenized population. Greek resurrection beliefs and the success of Christianity (with preview) New York: Palgrave Macmillan , 2009 Dag Øistein Endsjø

@Nomadicenjoyer31

Жыл бұрын

@@vangelisskia214 btw this quotation doesn't even exist in Kingsley's book 🙃🙃🙃

Very good vídeo, i love your videos, please a video of the battle of Lepanto, the siege of castelnouvo, the siege of oran-mazalquivir and the warfere of the janissaries.......

Any chance you would cover battle of Keresztes? It's suprising that many channel that i trust to cover them would still used the outdated Ottoman decline thesis. You have a history that cover Ottoman army pretty well and i think your channel is uniquely suited to showcase battles 16-17th centuries that are not neccesarily one sided since many historian that cover this periods is in "infantry pike and shot is the best and cavalry are backward" mindset at the time

Cool video

@SandRhomanHistory

Жыл бұрын

thanks

And from there, a geopolitical hotspot emerged.

@SandRhomanHistory

Жыл бұрын

it was one before, I'd say. Even back in ancient times Cyprus was already contested territory. The Persians and Greeks both laid claim to it and various moments in time.

Great video greetings from Turkey.

Could you make an episode on the Balkan troops in the Fanti Oltramarini?

The Venetians deserved to lose their overseas possessions in the Eastern Mediterranean. They watched the Ottomans only gain strength as time passed and as the Byzantines failed to hold them at bay. Their inaction to aid the Romans and contain the threat of the Ottomans only led to their own downfall in the end. This is karma for the 4th Crusade. I feel genuine remorse for the garrisons on Crete and Cyprus who bravely held the Ottomans back for as long as they could but to no avail. The Ottomans are savages and barbarous animals for what they did. It's totally unspeakable to me to be okay and have cruelty like this normalized in the ranks like this.

@user-cg2tw8pw7j

Жыл бұрын

Aren't the Europeans the Berbers?

Those little cannons firing are so damn cute!

Wow, mind blowing

I assume, your next video is about the battle... of the Bulge

Vital note: As the Ottoman's expanded their paper size of their domain, their actual control of the land diminished. The Ottomans were generally oblivious to what was happening in most Senjaks and entire wars came and went without anyone bothering to inform the Sultan. Sometimes Ottoman commanders went rogue and had de facto independent states, sometimes the local Ottoman government was defunct for decades at a time, and sometimes Ottoman rule was simply an empty oath of allegiance by the actual ruler who simply wanted to avoid trouble. All this was made possible by the Ottoman's habit of throwing away whole armies just to secure symbolic victories against nobles who bad mouthed the Sultan.

@etuanno

Жыл бұрын

Oh really? Then it makes sense that it collapsed so rapidly as soon as the power of the Sultan was dwindling.

@samsonsoturian6013

Жыл бұрын

@ahmetozkan438 whatever case you trying to make, you ain't doing a good job at it

@samsonsoturian6013

Жыл бұрын

@etuanno the crown was already defunct by the time WWI started. A gang of army officers ran things. The collapse was very slow before that as European powers each intervened to prevent the others from taking too much Ottoman turf

@samsonsoturian6013

Жыл бұрын

@ahmetozkan438 dude, it took months to get a message across the empire. You find it incredulous that cliques could quietly enforce their own rules? That's actually what happened in Saddam's Iraq too, as conspiracies between officials to do this or that was the norm. In the Ottoman's case, the Sultan once issued an order to clear up the east of pirates who were eating into tax revenues. The army commanders were receiving bribes from some of the extortionists, so they lied and said the Sultan said to hunt Armenian pirates. The junior officers wanted loot so they lied and said the Sultan ordered the Armenians who are all pirates to be hunted. Individual soldiers wanted to hide their crimes so they lied and said the Sultan ordered the Armenians to be killed. Welcome to the Ottoman Empire.

@rohansensei5708

Жыл бұрын

@@etuanno Ottoman Empire didn’t dissolve so easily though. But some parts like Hungary, Egypt, North Africa and conquered lands from Iran had so minimal control from central goverment that they lost these parts immediately when another power stepped in.

How about an episode about those "blind monks"? Could that be a thing? I'd love to learn about them.

0:05 the way my man just disintegrated💀💀

Can you make a video on how to build the "perfect" star fort?

@raclark2730

Жыл бұрын

And explain to some people that they were not for space ships.

@sdggameing2138

Жыл бұрын

Perfect Fortress video featured star fortress, I think

@clintmoor422

Жыл бұрын

@@raclark2730 who would even think that?

@SandRhomanHistory

Жыл бұрын

yeah, we might look into that. It might be quite similar to our older how to defend video though. We're also looking into Vauban at the moment, so there will be a video covering this even though it might be released with a different name!

@raclark2730

Жыл бұрын

@@clintmoor422 Flat Earth / Tartaria mud flood theorist channels. Its very sad.

Please do one for 1601 Siege of Ostend. Spanish v Dutch if memory serves. It's family legend that an ancestor survived inside the city walls. I've always been curious what exactly that would have meant.

@SandRhomanHistory

Жыл бұрын

we covered that siege already!

It is the perfect time to listen `Kuffar` from Hasan Mutlucan while watching this.

I really hope the battle of Lepanto is cover some day.

That's a lot of damage.

Some things never change in Europe. It doesn't surprise me that Doria was stalling because he didn't really want to help. It also doesn't surprise me that the Europeans bickered so much they ended up leaving Cyprus to its fall. That Pasha Mustafa betrayed the Venician leaders just because he could or that he made slaves of the troops after agreeing to let them go. Seems like Erdogan like to play games as well. Someday Cyprus and Constantinople will be taken back.

@ggoddkkiller1342

Жыл бұрын

For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...

@matthew7027

11 ай бұрын

Yeah sweet dreams soft shell western.

@panosgeorgedimitriou2290

9 ай бұрын

​@@matthew7027patience turkish parasite in the end Noone can escape justice

The Turks finished flaying Marcantonio Bragadino, then sent His straw-stuffed body on tour around the city, then sent the poor man's remains to Constantinople for exhibition as well. Real sweethearts, the Osmanlis

The might of the empire capable of deploying over 100k men overseas. Imagine using that power in the times of actual peace with your major neighbours to strengthen your economy and future prosperity instead of pointless after-the-fact cruelty.

I think the Ottomans could have been stopped if Doria would not have sabotaged things. A Venetian fleet on Cyprus would have changed things quite a bit.

@kuvikina

Жыл бұрын

if my aunt could have a moustache i can call her uncle.

@giulianoilfilosofo7927

Жыл бұрын

Doria was genoese, in the Italy of the time a Venetian Genoese alliance would have been a mirage at best most of the times.

@sp1d3rm0nk3y33

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much difficult. Cyprus was undefendable for logistic reasons. Too close to ottoman empire.

It's so strange to me that at the same time there are allready colonizes in America. It seems always like totally different time lines

Is this what Othello was based off?

Very good video! You should have made this video earlier.

@SandRhomanHistory

Жыл бұрын

thanks! well better late than never, right?

@navneetshyam1335

Жыл бұрын

@@SandRhomanHistory bro, I meant that you should have made it earlier as it's an important topic in the Ottoman history.

Marco Bragadin should have waited for the holy league fleet to arrive. They were on their way to help.

@user-cg2tw8pw7j

Жыл бұрын

Algeria was destroyed by the stupidity of the Holy Roman Empire, the Heisburgs

Wann gibt es die Version der Filme auf Deutsch?? es können (2.Wahl) auch deutsche Untertitel sein. Merciviumau

@SandRhomanHistory

Жыл бұрын

mit wenigen Ausnahmen immer ca. 1 Jahr nachdem sie auf dem englischen Kanal veröffentlicht wurden.

Honey! A new siege just dropped!

In my current eu4 game The Ottomans declared war on Cyprus maybe a dozen times and never landed any troops

can you make a video of the siege of cadiz 1810 it was one of the longest sieges of the napoleonic wars

@SandRhomanHistory

Жыл бұрын

maybe sometime down the line. At the moment we can't afford to buy another set of artwork (which would be required to cover the 1800s)

Im just wondering how they trusted that a messenger was legitimate, was it done with certain watermarking on paperwork? Would be a fun topic to see fake messengers causing chaos

@user-cg2tw8pw7j

Жыл бұрын

The Duchy is an evil city. Did Austria destroy this country?

I cant name a single honorable Pasha throughout all of Ottoman history. Every other role and rank, yes. But if you get the name Pasha, apparently you're just fucked.

Flayed alive, my gosh thats brutal and cruel

@ggoddkkiller1342

Жыл бұрын

For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release. He answered as they all weren't his prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners. He answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject but he couldn't be more wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order that shall Baragdin die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose were cut and few days later he was executed by skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today. While European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...

@dubbyx8490

11 ай бұрын

@@ggoddkkiller1342 A little paragraphing would be nice my friend..

@ggoddkkiller1342

11 ай бұрын

@@dubbyx8490 Here you go my friend, my paragraphing might be bad but at least i don't try to manipulate history and push a narrative)

@dubbyx8490

11 ай бұрын

@@ggoddkkiller1342 I agree.. The least you could do is to write in paragraphs so that people can easily follow your arguments.

Sorry I don't wanna be a grammar nazy But it's Girolamo Zane, not girolame, but i understand that it sound pretty difficult to write

speaker.. How swiss do you wanna sound? Yes

@SandRhomanHistory

Жыл бұрын

rösti

@prophetrexlexful8783

Жыл бұрын

@@SandRhomanHistory i has so gwüsst 😄

All the Moor!!!!

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never never surrender.

Love the video but you need to check your pronunciation when pronouncing greek names or greek city names

I definitely feel even though we think Bronze Age was more brutal for civilians I’d say these black powder sieges were much worse because of the length

disunity among Christian/Europeans cause their defeat

The numbers are greatly exaggerated France at the time could barely field 30k even if the ottomans could field such numbers this would leave the empire defenceless to siege an island not to mention logistics

@lazerBAR

Жыл бұрын

lolwaat France could field 30k no problem at this time, as could most European states at the time.