Clytemnestra is just having a good girl boss time, wow
@v3xecho2914 жыл бұрын
holy shit, that's a good clytamnestra. you can just *feel* the power radiating off her.
@stevenpetarra33519 жыл бұрын
Man, this translator really, REALLY loves alliteration. "Grudges gangrene the gut" "Call the clan council to meet in full conclave"
@coraxjk
8 жыл бұрын
+Steven Petarra +Swairard Swairardov as you may know, this is an ancient tradition in anglo-saxon verse -- you find it already in BEOWULF for example -- and i am sure tony harrison was consciously harking back to that tradition. trying to make his adaptation 'fit' comfortably in english.
@kizakhalifornia
5 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't surprise me if Aeschylus himself used alliteration in those instances. Greeks loved wordplay.
@darkdave1998
4 жыл бұрын
""Then stride strong and steady on what we have strewn.""
@eveningstar7048
3 жыл бұрын
@@coraxjk it’s brilliant!
@johncitizen9540
3 жыл бұрын
Call the clan council to meet in full conclave...... it's like a tongue twister
@theproplady5 жыл бұрын
I was scratching my head thinking "One of those chorus guys sounds like Baldrick from the Blackadder series." I thought it was a funny coincidence, and then I saw Tony Robinson's name in the credits! Hah!
@emmafisk5941 Жыл бұрын
I'm taking a chorus in Ancient Greek history in college this year and found this absolute gem. Thank you for putting it on the way it was written to be viewed. Incredible performances across the board!!!
@pvonberg6 жыл бұрын
When Agamemnon started speaking, that's when you could finally understand what anyone was saying.
@aaronjsnyc9 жыл бұрын
This is an incredible production. In particular Clytemnestra. Bravo!! The National Theatre is a utopia of art.
@thegloriousmoodman2152
6 жыл бұрын
mostly a lot of yelling to me
@raisa_cherry33
5 жыл бұрын
@@thegloriousmoodman2152 😂
@samtirado151
4 жыл бұрын
I liked Cassandra
@Manima108
Жыл бұрын
I liked the people of colour in this production
@tylergrant18604 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Agamemnon is played by Jim Carter, otherwise known as Mr. Carson on Downtown Abbey
@DemeterTelphousia-Erinyes
3 жыл бұрын
He’s from my town- I used to chat to his mum at the bus stop!
@steveg8322
3 жыл бұрын
Downton Abbey
@Fummy007
3 жыл бұрын
He's just a member of the Chorus
@rosalind13
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this
@vasilis73 жыл бұрын
Love it. My favourite oresteia. I have seen two in modern greek and its superior. with respect to the text. it seems to be very close to the ancient drama. clytemnystra is MARVELOUS.
@raimichick8 жыл бұрын
Beautiful and haunting.
@raisa_cherry33
5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant performance ❤❤
@AilsaJ10 жыл бұрын
I saw this performed decades ago - wonderful to see it again.
@AndreyFMartins8 жыл бұрын
I like that the translation keeps Cassandra's first words as they are in Greek, "ototoi popoi da". Thank you for sharing it!
@vasilis7
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@mikeburnett34 жыл бұрын
This is first time I have had the privilege to see a live version. Every second year, I take this mountaineering with me. Thank you for the upload. On the counsel of those below, I shall look for other versions too! I have enjoyed this immeasurably. Burnett in Cork, Ireland
@LyndonLaRoucheArchive
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds good.
@100QT49011 жыл бұрын
I am reading this for my lit class. Because I am not feeling well I decided to listen/watch this before hand. i hope I can make sense of all this lol.
@dylanisraelian9015 жыл бұрын
"such gaudy displays goad gods into god-grudge"
@NormanArches12 жыл бұрын
Get 'The Oresteia' by Ted Hughes published by Faber and Faber - you won't be disappointed. It is fucking awesome. In case you don't know he's one of the greatest English poets of the last 2 or 3 hundred years and he basically rewrites the thing, adapting it, so you get the combined work of 2 geniuses. Like I say, it's awesome.
@paulcaswell2813
9 ай бұрын
Fagles every time for me.
@loosygoosy10111 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for uploading this production.
@redshankful10 жыл бұрын
I thought the chorus were particularly good in a great convincing production - and the music made it as well. "the thing they raised in their house was blessed by god to be priest of destruction" of Paris l 735-6 So many great lines though!
@BrilliantDemon9211 жыл бұрын
I had a hard time understanding Agamemnon when I first read it but watching this has made everything so clear, And I can now fully enjoy the Agamemnon experience! Thank You
@raisa_cherry33
5 жыл бұрын
Same with me also.Watching a play helps a great deal :)
@jungsookhwang242610 жыл бұрын
That was very tense. A very good preformance. As like I'm in that situation.
@jungsookhwang2426
10 жыл бұрын
And two more plays from the trilogy to watch!!
@ElliotBrownJingles7 жыл бұрын
Bravo! Awesome rendition.
@imnotcocteau110 жыл бұрын
A superb rendering.
@sophiepereira85194 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else pick up on 'shag-amemnon' at 35.11? Am I hearing that right?
@cole1714
3 жыл бұрын
35:09, "Shagamemnon, shameless, shaft-happy" lol
@mintpatty10 жыл бұрын
Who's playing Clytaemnestra? He's marvelous.
@jungsookhwang2426
10 жыл бұрын
It says Philip Donaghy at the last
@mintpatty
9 жыл бұрын
Striking performance.
@ericbohun5426 жыл бұрын
You can see this video without the bar of pixelation at the bottom of the screen by searching for "Oresteia 1983 subtitled & cleaned"
@ninja_tripps13702 ай бұрын
Tony Robinson is such a certified g
@brandovegan6094 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. 🎭
@nathanielnorton4582 жыл бұрын
wow, this reads like a dr seuss book
@LyndonLaRoucheArchive
2 жыл бұрын
That is the dumbest description ever.
@garycrethers21179 жыл бұрын
This translation is a trip. It makes Latimore seem positively obscure. I am looking for a copy of the scrip on line now.
@wschao
9 жыл бұрын
It was adapted by Tony Harrison
@LyndonLaRoucheArchive11 жыл бұрын
Its an attempt at demonstrating why Greek civilization collapsed. Shelley in particular emphasized the importance of poets as legislators in how they educated the people.
@Dgoc813 Жыл бұрын
32:45 I REVEL IN GLORY Burned in my memory lol
@The911Shaman11 жыл бұрын
This was the "Star Wars Trilogy" of Ancient Greece.
@PeterandGabriel11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this
@Senna45211 жыл бұрын
This is a pretty cool depiction, but I enjoy reading the play much more. Also I feel like I need to be on drugs because its just...so damn weird (in an artistic way of course). But I would also probably flip my shit because of their masks.
@LyndonLaRoucheArchive11 жыл бұрын
You can always study Greek, so that you can read the play in its original language.
@andreasc5433
4 жыл бұрын
Aeschylus' Greek is quite challenging, would require a lot of effort just to understand, let alone appreciate and delve into. But once you are there, nothing can compare.
@TheDanielVFlores11 жыл бұрын
Very thankfull for this thing. For i ams a composer who is entranced by dramaturgy or maybe vice-versa.
@mandoranity8 жыл бұрын
magnificent
@nicwebber534311 жыл бұрын
Tony Harrison made it a condition of performance that it be masked and have an all male cast. We staged the Oresteia when I was a student in the late 80s. We would have loved to be able to use this translation but we struggled to cast the male roles as it was.
@thegloriousmoodman2152
6 жыл бұрын
I think the Greeks would be quite puzzled by this
@youbtik34292 жыл бұрын
so nice I'm enjoying
@youbtik3429
2 жыл бұрын
very nice my Dear
@youbtik3429
2 жыл бұрын
sure we all know that
@LyndonLaRoucheArchive12 жыл бұрын
@Tindel10 Reading beforehand will help. Tragedy has been one of the more important methods of education in history, statecraft, and human nature by poets. Plus, it'll help you fight the stupid culture we live in.
@DemonTaoist11 жыл бұрын
You're right, it's him!
@ghostboys81614 жыл бұрын
Where can I find a transcript of this? It’s amazing
@pearylucius10437 жыл бұрын
Thak you :)
@april092612 жыл бұрын
may I know which theater company they were?
@NormanArches12 жыл бұрын
Agamemnonsounds like Jim Carter, now a famous actor for Downton Abbey, a feelgood show for POSH people. But here he's sounding fucking great! Watch out, Jim! She's got a spear!
@Dgoc8134 жыл бұрын
21:10 Chorus: Tell me more tell me more did you put up a fight?
@LyndonLaRoucheArchive11 жыл бұрын
Credits are included with the Furies and Libation Bearers.
@perrycomeau26272 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they got that g-d offal porridge right. Apollo becomes finite as Plato
@sarahmead23403 жыл бұрын
Very easy to pick out Tony Robinson's voice.
@johntheodoridis86362 жыл бұрын
These sets remind me of the Tom Baker era of Dr Who.
@NoMercyfortheGuilty12 жыл бұрын
I have to perform a scene from this for my acting class.....I thought it was going to be difficult to memorize. and I was right! seeing as these guys dont even follow the exact dialogue as written.
@elamayangel10 жыл бұрын
At what part of this is Clytemnestra's monologue to Electra starting with: so you're prowling outside the house again??
@OreadNYC
3 жыл бұрын
Electra is not a character in "Agamemnon." You're either thinking of "The Libation Bearers" (the next part of the Aeschylus Oresteia) or of "Electra" by Sophocles.
@tonysutherland23906 жыл бұрын
It works better when the speed is reduced to .75
@raisa_cherry336 жыл бұрын
👏💗💗
@NoMercyfortheGuilty11 жыл бұрын
It doesnt matter anymore...I got kicked out of the class
@LyndonLaRoucheArchive12 жыл бұрын
@LareinaTham 1983
@castillo61475 жыл бұрын
Me and the boys
@TheDanielVFlores11 жыл бұрын
Maybe... Generlizations don't work, i think. What about science fiction by Kurt Vonnegut, Joseph Heller, Anthony Burgess etc. They are not aimed at degredation... i think... illuminate me...
@charlescrowell33462 жыл бұрын
Was Baldric the servent? A most cunning plan!
@NormanArches12 жыл бұрын
And a net.
@nicwebber534311 жыл бұрын
But who would want to sit through a production from a Loeb translation?
@anastasiafry87028 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me who preformed this?
@ianscott2511
8 жыл бұрын
pretty sure Baldric from the Black Adder is at least two of the chorus members
@Fcutdlady
7 жыл бұрын
Ian Scott he is and so is Jim Carter who played Carson in downton abbey (he played Agamemnon and is listed in the cast list at the end as James Carter) I am reading Tony Robinson's autobiography at the moment and am on the bit where he talks about this play . also search for Jim Carter and his wife Imelda Staunton being interviewed about their time at the national theatre . it's here on you tube and is really interesting
@antoniaofcydonia10 жыл бұрын
james carter as in carson from downton abbey????
@GregoriusTheBrown
10 жыл бұрын
I thought I heard his voice!
@antoniaofcydonia
8 жыл бұрын
haha throwback to two years ago when i took classics
@The_Marssh9 жыл бұрын
28:25
@kennethmilam28942 жыл бұрын
She likes to talk alot. Wheeeeee
@Muffinfordinner11 жыл бұрын
I don't see why they didn't just use a female actor for the female role. I know the Greeks didn't allow that but.. it would have been better.
@steveg83229 ай бұрын
Hope’s got no franchise…
@LareinaTham12 жыл бұрын
When was this staged?
@lillianna2704 жыл бұрын
well they don't have subs in part 2....
@Tindel1012 жыл бұрын
It's hard for me to understand stuff like this. :/
@cole1714
3 жыл бұрын
It's much easier if you've read a translation of Agamemnon and made sure that you understand that in itself before trying to understand a performance of the play, imo :) I also had to read along in my translation while watching the play just bc theyre kinda hard to understand sometimes, and some of their language is pretty weird here.
@arjan69963 жыл бұрын
Who is here from Burnham grammar school?
@Markofitch11 жыл бұрын
I disagree with you, It would be like the new Miley Cyrus!!!
@raisa_cherry33
5 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@upsty64992 жыл бұрын
The sickly cashew breath hey 👋 🤔
@LyndonLaRoucheArchive11 жыл бұрын
I strongly disagree. The ancient dramatists were engaged in a fight against the backwardness that had kept Greece in a horrible dark age for centuries. Modern science fiction comes out of cultural movements that are aimed at degredation of the population.
@offworlder4694
4 жыл бұрын
I know it's been 6 years...but as a Classicist and a science fiction writer, would you be able to elaborate on what you mean here about SF being "aimed at degredation of the population?"
@eleanormcloughlin2017
3 жыл бұрын
That seems like an oddly simplistic viewpoint.
@thegloriousmoodman21526 жыл бұрын
why eliminate all trace of the female sex? and there’s a lot of yelling.
@wow1371
6 жыл бұрын
Because believe it or not over 2 millennia ago women could not act on stage because they would be killed by the men.
@raisa_cherry33
5 жыл бұрын
@@wow1371 😱
@ericbohun5426 жыл бұрын
You can see this video without the bar of pixelation at the bottom of the screen by searching for "Oresteia 1983 subtitled & cleaned"
@cristinewakesuphappy2798
5 жыл бұрын
thanks so much. i really could use some subtitles. :)
Пікірлер: 123
Clytemnestra is just having a good girl boss time, wow
holy shit, that's a good clytamnestra. you can just *feel* the power radiating off her.
Man, this translator really, REALLY loves alliteration. "Grudges gangrene the gut" "Call the clan council to meet in full conclave"
@coraxjk
8 жыл бұрын
+Steven Petarra +Swairard Swairardov as you may know, this is an ancient tradition in anglo-saxon verse -- you find it already in BEOWULF for example -- and i am sure tony harrison was consciously harking back to that tradition. trying to make his adaptation 'fit' comfortably in english.
@kizakhalifornia
5 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't surprise me if Aeschylus himself used alliteration in those instances. Greeks loved wordplay.
@darkdave1998
4 жыл бұрын
""Then stride strong and steady on what we have strewn.""
@eveningstar7048
3 жыл бұрын
@@coraxjk it’s brilliant!
@johncitizen9540
3 жыл бұрын
Call the clan council to meet in full conclave...... it's like a tongue twister
I was scratching my head thinking "One of those chorus guys sounds like Baldrick from the Blackadder series." I thought it was a funny coincidence, and then I saw Tony Robinson's name in the credits! Hah!
I'm taking a chorus in Ancient Greek history in college this year and found this absolute gem. Thank you for putting it on the way it was written to be viewed. Incredible performances across the board!!!
When Agamemnon started speaking, that's when you could finally understand what anyone was saying.
This is an incredible production. In particular Clytemnestra. Bravo!! The National Theatre is a utopia of art.
@thegloriousmoodman2152
6 жыл бұрын
mostly a lot of yelling to me
@raisa_cherry33
5 жыл бұрын
@@thegloriousmoodman2152 😂
@samtirado151
4 жыл бұрын
I liked Cassandra
@Manima108
Жыл бұрын
I liked the people of colour in this production
Fun fact: Agamemnon is played by Jim Carter, otherwise known as Mr. Carson on Downtown Abbey
@DemeterTelphousia-Erinyes
3 жыл бұрын
He’s from my town- I used to chat to his mum at the bus stop!
@steveg8322
3 жыл бұрын
Downton Abbey
@Fummy007
3 жыл бұрын
He's just a member of the Chorus
@rosalind13
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this
Love it. My favourite oresteia. I have seen two in modern greek and its superior. with respect to the text. it seems to be very close to the ancient drama. clytemnystra is MARVELOUS.
Beautiful and haunting.
@raisa_cherry33
5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant performance ❤❤
I saw this performed decades ago - wonderful to see it again.
I like that the translation keeps Cassandra's first words as they are in Greek, "ototoi popoi da". Thank you for sharing it!
@vasilis7
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed!
This is first time I have had the privilege to see a live version. Every second year, I take this mountaineering with me. Thank you for the upload. On the counsel of those below, I shall look for other versions too! I have enjoyed this immeasurably. Burnett in Cork, Ireland
@LyndonLaRoucheArchive
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds good.
I am reading this for my lit class. Because I am not feeling well I decided to listen/watch this before hand. i hope I can make sense of all this lol.
"such gaudy displays goad gods into god-grudge"
Get 'The Oresteia' by Ted Hughes published by Faber and Faber - you won't be disappointed. It is fucking awesome. In case you don't know he's one of the greatest English poets of the last 2 or 3 hundred years and he basically rewrites the thing, adapting it, so you get the combined work of 2 geniuses. Like I say, it's awesome.
@paulcaswell2813
9 ай бұрын
Fagles every time for me.
Thank you very much for uploading this production.
I thought the chorus were particularly good in a great convincing production - and the music made it as well. "the thing they raised in their house was blessed by god to be priest of destruction" of Paris l 735-6 So many great lines though!
I had a hard time understanding Agamemnon when I first read it but watching this has made everything so clear, And I can now fully enjoy the Agamemnon experience! Thank You
@raisa_cherry33
5 жыл бұрын
Same with me also.Watching a play helps a great deal :)
That was very tense. A very good preformance. As like I'm in that situation.
@jungsookhwang2426
10 жыл бұрын
And two more plays from the trilogy to watch!!
Bravo! Awesome rendition.
A superb rendering.
Did anyone else pick up on 'shag-amemnon' at 35.11? Am I hearing that right?
@cole1714
3 жыл бұрын
35:09, "Shagamemnon, shameless, shaft-happy" lol
Who's playing Clytaemnestra? He's marvelous.
@jungsookhwang2426
10 жыл бұрын
It says Philip Donaghy at the last
@mintpatty
9 жыл бұрын
Striking performance.
You can see this video without the bar of pixelation at the bottom of the screen by searching for "Oresteia 1983 subtitled & cleaned"
Tony Robinson is such a certified g
Beautiful. 🎭
wow, this reads like a dr seuss book
@LyndonLaRoucheArchive
2 жыл бұрын
That is the dumbest description ever.
This translation is a trip. It makes Latimore seem positively obscure. I am looking for a copy of the scrip on line now.
@wschao
9 жыл бұрын
It was adapted by Tony Harrison
Its an attempt at demonstrating why Greek civilization collapsed. Shelley in particular emphasized the importance of poets as legislators in how they educated the people.
32:45 I REVEL IN GLORY Burned in my memory lol
This was the "Star Wars Trilogy" of Ancient Greece.
Thanks for this
This is a pretty cool depiction, but I enjoy reading the play much more. Also I feel like I need to be on drugs because its just...so damn weird (in an artistic way of course). But I would also probably flip my shit because of their masks.
You can always study Greek, so that you can read the play in its original language.
@andreasc5433
4 жыл бұрын
Aeschylus' Greek is quite challenging, would require a lot of effort just to understand, let alone appreciate and delve into. But once you are there, nothing can compare.
Very thankfull for this thing. For i ams a composer who is entranced by dramaturgy or maybe vice-versa.
magnificent
Tony Harrison made it a condition of performance that it be masked and have an all male cast. We staged the Oresteia when I was a student in the late 80s. We would have loved to be able to use this translation but we struggled to cast the male roles as it was.
@thegloriousmoodman2152
6 жыл бұрын
I think the Greeks would be quite puzzled by this
so nice I'm enjoying
@youbtik3429
2 жыл бұрын
very nice my Dear
@youbtik3429
2 жыл бұрын
sure we all know that
@Tindel10 Reading beforehand will help. Tragedy has been one of the more important methods of education in history, statecraft, and human nature by poets. Plus, it'll help you fight the stupid culture we live in.
You're right, it's him!
Where can I find a transcript of this? It’s amazing
Thak you :)
may I know which theater company they were?
Agamemnonsounds like Jim Carter, now a famous actor for Downton Abbey, a feelgood show for POSH people. But here he's sounding fucking great! Watch out, Jim! She's got a spear!
21:10 Chorus: Tell me more tell me more did you put up a fight?
Credits are included with the Furies and Libation Bearers.
Hopefully they got that g-d offal porridge right. Apollo becomes finite as Plato
Very easy to pick out Tony Robinson's voice.
These sets remind me of the Tom Baker era of Dr Who.
I have to perform a scene from this for my acting class.....I thought it was going to be difficult to memorize. and I was right! seeing as these guys dont even follow the exact dialogue as written.
At what part of this is Clytemnestra's monologue to Electra starting with: so you're prowling outside the house again??
@OreadNYC
3 жыл бұрын
Electra is not a character in "Agamemnon." You're either thinking of "The Libation Bearers" (the next part of the Aeschylus Oresteia) or of "Electra" by Sophocles.
It works better when the speed is reduced to .75
👏💗💗
It doesnt matter anymore...I got kicked out of the class
@LareinaTham 1983
Me and the boys
Maybe... Generlizations don't work, i think. What about science fiction by Kurt Vonnegut, Joseph Heller, Anthony Burgess etc. They are not aimed at degredation... i think... illuminate me...
Was Baldric the servent? A most cunning plan!
And a net.
But who would want to sit through a production from a Loeb translation?
Can anyone tell me who preformed this?
@ianscott2511
8 жыл бұрын
pretty sure Baldric from the Black Adder is at least two of the chorus members
@Fcutdlady
7 жыл бұрын
Ian Scott he is and so is Jim Carter who played Carson in downton abbey (he played Agamemnon and is listed in the cast list at the end as James Carter) I am reading Tony Robinson's autobiography at the moment and am on the bit where he talks about this play . also search for Jim Carter and his wife Imelda Staunton being interviewed about their time at the national theatre . it's here on you tube and is really interesting
james carter as in carson from downton abbey????
@GregoriusTheBrown
10 жыл бұрын
I thought I heard his voice!
@antoniaofcydonia
8 жыл бұрын
haha throwback to two years ago when i took classics
28:25
She likes to talk alot. Wheeeeee
I don't see why they didn't just use a female actor for the female role. I know the Greeks didn't allow that but.. it would have been better.
Hope’s got no franchise…
When was this staged?
well they don't have subs in part 2....
It's hard for me to understand stuff like this. :/
@cole1714
3 жыл бұрын
It's much easier if you've read a translation of Agamemnon and made sure that you understand that in itself before trying to understand a performance of the play, imo :) I also had to read along in my translation while watching the play just bc theyre kinda hard to understand sometimes, and some of their language is pretty weird here.
Who is here from Burnham grammar school?
I disagree with you, It would be like the new Miley Cyrus!!!
@raisa_cherry33
5 жыл бұрын
😂😂
The sickly cashew breath hey 👋 🤔
I strongly disagree. The ancient dramatists were engaged in a fight against the backwardness that had kept Greece in a horrible dark age for centuries. Modern science fiction comes out of cultural movements that are aimed at degredation of the population.
@offworlder4694
4 жыл бұрын
I know it's been 6 years...but as a Classicist and a science fiction writer, would you be able to elaborate on what you mean here about SF being "aimed at degredation of the population?"
@eleanormcloughlin2017
3 жыл бұрын
That seems like an oddly simplistic viewpoint.
why eliminate all trace of the female sex? and there’s a lot of yelling.
@wow1371
6 жыл бұрын
Because believe it or not over 2 millennia ago women could not act on stage because they would be killed by the men.
@raisa_cherry33
5 жыл бұрын
@@wow1371 😱
You can see this video without the bar of pixelation at the bottom of the screen by searching for "Oresteia 1983 subtitled & cleaned"
@cristinewakesuphappy2798
5 жыл бұрын
thanks so much. i really could use some subtitles. :)