The Orestia Agamemnon part 2

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  • @Miles_Phantasmagoria
    @Miles_Phantasmagoria3 жыл бұрын

    Clytemnestra is just having a good girl boss time, wow

  • @v3xecho291
    @v3xecho2914 жыл бұрын

    holy shit, that's a good clytamnestra. you can just *feel* the power radiating off her.

  • @stevenpetarra3351
    @stevenpetarra33519 жыл бұрын

    Man, this translator really, REALLY loves alliteration. "Grudges gangrene the gut" "Call the clan council to meet in full conclave"

  • @coraxjk

    @coraxjk

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Steven Petarra +Swairard Swairardov as you may know, this is an ancient tradition in anglo-saxon verse -- you find it already in BEOWULF for example -- and i am sure tony harrison was consciously harking back to that tradition. trying to make his adaptation 'fit' comfortably in english.

  • @kizakhalifornia

    @kizakhalifornia

    5 жыл бұрын

    It wouldn't surprise me if Aeschylus himself used alliteration in those instances. Greeks loved wordplay.

  • @darkdave1998

    @darkdave1998

    4 жыл бұрын

    ""Then stride strong and steady on what we have strewn.""

  • @eveningstar7048

    @eveningstar7048

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@coraxjk it’s brilliant!

  • @johncitizen9540

    @johncitizen9540

    3 жыл бұрын

    Call the clan council to meet in full conclave...... it's like a tongue twister

  • @theproplady
    @theproplady5 жыл бұрын

    I was scratching my head thinking "One of those chorus guys sounds like Baldrick from the Blackadder series." I thought it was a funny coincidence, and then I saw Tony Robinson's name in the credits! Hah!

  • @emmafisk5941
    @emmafisk5941 Жыл бұрын

    I'm taking a chorus in Ancient Greek history in college this year and found this absolute gem. Thank you for putting it on the way it was written to be viewed. Incredible performances across the board!!!

  • @pvonberg
    @pvonberg6 жыл бұрын

    When Agamemnon started speaking, that's when you could finally understand what anyone was saying.

  • @aaronjsnyc
    @aaronjsnyc9 жыл бұрын

    This is an incredible production. In particular Clytemnestra. Bravo!! The National Theatre is a utopia of art.

  • @thegloriousmoodman2152

    @thegloriousmoodman2152

    6 жыл бұрын

    mostly a lot of yelling to me

  • @raisa_cherry33

    @raisa_cherry33

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@thegloriousmoodman2152 😂

  • @samtirado151

    @samtirado151

    4 жыл бұрын

    I liked Cassandra

  • @Manima108

    @Manima108

    Жыл бұрын

    I liked the people of colour in this production

  • @tylergrant1860
    @tylergrant18604 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: Agamemnon is played by Jim Carter, otherwise known as Mr. Carson on Downtown Abbey

  • @DemeterTelphousia-Erinyes

    @DemeterTelphousia-Erinyes

    3 жыл бұрын

    He’s from my town- I used to chat to his mum at the bus stop!

  • @steveg8322

    @steveg8322

    3 жыл бұрын

    Downton Abbey

  • @Fummy007

    @Fummy007

    3 жыл бұрын

    He's just a member of the Chorus

  • @rosalind13

    @rosalind13

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this

  • @vasilis7
    @vasilis73 жыл бұрын

    Love it. My favourite oresteia. I have seen two in modern greek and its superior. with respect to the text. it seems to be very close to the ancient drama. clytemnystra is MARVELOUS.

  • @raimichick
    @raimichick8 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful and haunting.

  • @raisa_cherry33

    @raisa_cherry33

    5 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely brilliant performance ❤❤

  • @AilsaJ
    @AilsaJ10 жыл бұрын

    I saw this performed decades ago - wonderful to see it again.

  • @AndreyFMartins
    @AndreyFMartins8 жыл бұрын

    I like that the translation keeps Cassandra's first words as they are in Greek, "ototoi popoi da". Thank you for sharing it!

  • @vasilis7

    @vasilis7

    3 жыл бұрын

    Indeed!

  • @mikeburnett3
    @mikeburnett34 жыл бұрын

    This is first time I have had the privilege to see a live version. Every second year, I take this mountaineering with me. Thank you for the upload. On the counsel of those below, I shall look for other versions too! I have enjoyed this immeasurably. Burnett in Cork, Ireland

  • @LyndonLaRoucheArchive

    @LyndonLaRoucheArchive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sounds good.

  • @100QT490
    @100QT49011 жыл бұрын

    I am reading this for my lit class. Because I am not feeling well I decided to listen/watch this before hand. i hope I can make sense of all this lol.

  • @dylanisraelian901
    @dylanisraelian9015 жыл бұрын

    "such gaudy displays goad gods into god-grudge"

  • @NormanArches
    @NormanArches12 жыл бұрын

    Get 'The Oresteia' by Ted Hughes published by Faber and Faber - you won't be disappointed. It is fucking awesome. In case you don't know he's one of the greatest English poets of the last 2 or 3 hundred years and he basically rewrites the thing, adapting it, so you get the combined work of 2 geniuses. Like I say, it's awesome.

  • @paulcaswell2813

    @paulcaswell2813

    9 ай бұрын

    Fagles every time for me.

  • @loosygoosy101
    @loosygoosy10111 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for uploading this production.

  • @redshankful
    @redshankful10 жыл бұрын

    I thought the chorus were particularly good in a great convincing production - and the music made it as well. "the thing they raised in their house was blessed by god to be priest of destruction" of Paris l 735-6 So many great lines though!

  • @BrilliantDemon92
    @BrilliantDemon9211 жыл бұрын

    I had a hard time understanding Agamemnon when I first read it but watching this has made everything so clear, And I can now fully enjoy the Agamemnon experience! Thank You

  • @raisa_cherry33

    @raisa_cherry33

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same with me also.Watching a play helps a great deal :)

  • @jungsookhwang2426
    @jungsookhwang242610 жыл бұрын

    That was very tense. A very good preformance. As like I'm in that situation.

  • @jungsookhwang2426

    @jungsookhwang2426

    10 жыл бұрын

    And two more plays from the trilogy to watch!!

  • @ElliotBrownJingles
    @ElliotBrownJingles7 жыл бұрын

    Bravo! Awesome rendition.

  • @imnotcocteau1
    @imnotcocteau110 жыл бұрын

    A superb rendering.

  • @sophiepereira8519
    @sophiepereira85194 жыл бұрын

    Did anyone else pick up on 'shag-amemnon' at 35.11? Am I hearing that right?

  • @cole1714

    @cole1714

    3 жыл бұрын

    35:09, "Shagamemnon, shameless, shaft-happy" lol

  • @mintpatty
    @mintpatty10 жыл бұрын

    Who's playing Clytaemnestra? He's marvelous.

  • @jungsookhwang2426

    @jungsookhwang2426

    10 жыл бұрын

    It says Philip Donaghy at the last

  • @mintpatty

    @mintpatty

    9 жыл бұрын

    Striking performance.

  • @ericbohun542
    @ericbohun5426 жыл бұрын

    You can see this video without the bar of pixelation at the bottom of the screen by searching for "Oresteia 1983 subtitled & cleaned"

  • @ninja_tripps1370
    @ninja_tripps13702 ай бұрын

    Tony Robinson is such a certified g

  • @brandovegan609
    @brandovegan6094 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful. 🎭

  • @nathanielnorton458
    @nathanielnorton4582 жыл бұрын

    wow, this reads like a dr seuss book

  • @LyndonLaRoucheArchive

    @LyndonLaRoucheArchive

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is the dumbest description ever.

  • @garycrethers2117
    @garycrethers21179 жыл бұрын

    This translation is a trip. It makes Latimore seem positively obscure. I am looking for a copy of the scrip on line now.

  • @wschao

    @wschao

    9 жыл бұрын

    It was adapted by Tony Harrison

  • @LyndonLaRoucheArchive
    @LyndonLaRoucheArchive11 жыл бұрын

    Its an attempt at demonstrating why Greek civilization collapsed. Shelley in particular emphasized the importance of poets as legislators in how they educated the people.

  • @Dgoc813
    @Dgoc813 Жыл бұрын

    32:45 I REVEL IN GLORY Burned in my memory lol

  • @The911Shaman
    @The911Shaman11 жыл бұрын

    This was the "Star Wars Trilogy" of Ancient Greece.

  • @PeterandGabriel
    @PeterandGabriel11 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this

  • @Senna452
    @Senna45211 жыл бұрын

    This is a pretty cool depiction, but I enjoy reading the play much more. Also I feel like I need to be on drugs because its just...so damn weird (in an artistic way of course). But I would also probably flip my shit because of their masks.

  • @LyndonLaRoucheArchive
    @LyndonLaRoucheArchive11 жыл бұрын

    You can always study Greek, so that you can read the play in its original language.

  • @andreasc5433

    @andreasc5433

    4 жыл бұрын

    Aeschylus' Greek is quite challenging, would require a lot of effort just to understand, let alone appreciate and delve into. But once you are there, nothing can compare.

  • @TheDanielVFlores
    @TheDanielVFlores11 жыл бұрын

    Very thankfull for this thing. For i ams a composer who is entranced by dramaturgy or maybe vice-versa.

  • @mandoranity
    @mandoranity8 жыл бұрын

    magnificent

  • @nicwebber5343
    @nicwebber534311 жыл бұрын

    Tony Harrison made it a condition of performance that it be masked and have an all male cast. We staged the Oresteia when I was a student in the late 80s. We would have loved to be able to use this translation but we struggled to cast the male roles as it was.

  • @thegloriousmoodman2152

    @thegloriousmoodman2152

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think the Greeks would be quite puzzled by this

  • @youbtik3429
    @youbtik34292 жыл бұрын

    so nice I'm enjoying

  • @youbtik3429

    @youbtik3429

    2 жыл бұрын

    very nice my Dear

  • @youbtik3429

    @youbtik3429

    2 жыл бұрын

    sure we all know that

  • @LyndonLaRoucheArchive
    @LyndonLaRoucheArchive12 жыл бұрын

    @Tindel10 Reading beforehand will help. Tragedy has been one of the more important methods of education in history, statecraft, and human nature by poets. Plus, it'll help you fight the stupid culture we live in.

  • @DemonTaoist
    @DemonTaoist11 жыл бұрын

    You're right, it's him!

  • @ghostboys8161
    @ghostboys81614 жыл бұрын

    Where can I find a transcript of this? It’s amazing

  • @pearylucius1043
    @pearylucius10437 жыл бұрын

    Thak you :)

  • @april0926
    @april092612 жыл бұрын

    may I know which theater company they were?

  • @NormanArches
    @NormanArches12 жыл бұрын

    Agamemnonsounds like Jim Carter, now a famous actor for Downton Abbey, a feelgood show for POSH people. But here he's sounding fucking great! Watch out, Jim! She's got a spear!

  • @Dgoc813
    @Dgoc8134 жыл бұрын

    21:10 Chorus: Tell me more tell me more did you put up a fight?

  • @LyndonLaRoucheArchive
    @LyndonLaRoucheArchive11 жыл бұрын

    Credits are included with the Furies and Libation Bearers.

  • @perrycomeau2627
    @perrycomeau26272 жыл бұрын

    Hopefully they got that g-d offal porridge right. Apollo becomes finite as Plato

  • @sarahmead2340
    @sarahmead23403 жыл бұрын

    Very easy to pick out Tony Robinson's voice.

  • @johntheodoridis8636
    @johntheodoridis86362 жыл бұрын

    These sets remind me of the Tom Baker era of Dr Who.

  • @NoMercyfortheGuilty
    @NoMercyfortheGuilty12 жыл бұрын

    I have to perform a scene from this for my acting class.....I thought it was going to be difficult to memorize. and I was right! seeing as these guys dont even follow the exact dialogue as written.

  • @elamayangel
    @elamayangel10 жыл бұрын

    At what part of this is Clytemnestra's monologue to Electra starting with: so you're prowling outside the house again??

  • @OreadNYC

    @OreadNYC

    3 жыл бұрын

    Electra is not a character in "Agamemnon." You're either thinking of "The Libation Bearers" (the next part of the Aeschylus Oresteia) or of "Electra" by Sophocles.

  • @tonysutherland2390
    @tonysutherland23906 жыл бұрын

    It works better when the speed is reduced to .75

  • @raisa_cherry33
    @raisa_cherry336 жыл бұрын

    👏💗💗

  • @NoMercyfortheGuilty
    @NoMercyfortheGuilty11 жыл бұрын

    It doesnt matter anymore...I got kicked out of the class

  • @LyndonLaRoucheArchive
    @LyndonLaRoucheArchive12 жыл бұрын

    @LareinaTham 1983

  • @castillo6147
    @castillo61475 жыл бұрын

    Me and the boys

  • @TheDanielVFlores
    @TheDanielVFlores11 жыл бұрын

    Maybe... Generlizations don't work, i think. What about science fiction by Kurt Vonnegut, Joseph Heller, Anthony Burgess etc. They are not aimed at degredation... i think... illuminate me...

  • @charlescrowell3346
    @charlescrowell33462 жыл бұрын

    Was Baldric the servent? A most cunning plan!

  • @NormanArches
    @NormanArches12 жыл бұрын

    And a net.

  • @nicwebber5343
    @nicwebber534311 жыл бұрын

    But who would want to sit through a production from a Loeb translation?

  • @anastasiafry8702
    @anastasiafry87028 жыл бұрын

    Can anyone tell me who preformed this?

  • @ianscott2511

    @ianscott2511

    8 жыл бұрын

    pretty sure Baldric from the Black Adder is at least two of the chorus members

  • @Fcutdlady

    @Fcutdlady

    7 жыл бұрын

    Ian Scott he is and so is Jim Carter who played Carson in downton abbey (he played Agamemnon and is listed in the cast list at the end as James Carter) I am reading Tony Robinson's autobiography at the moment and am on the bit where he talks about this play . also search for Jim Carter and his wife Imelda Staunton being interviewed about their time at the national theatre . it's here on you tube and is really interesting

  • @antoniaofcydonia
    @antoniaofcydonia10 жыл бұрын

    james carter as in carson from downton abbey????

  • @GregoriusTheBrown

    @GregoriusTheBrown

    10 жыл бұрын

    I thought I heard his voice!

  • @antoniaofcydonia

    @antoniaofcydonia

    8 жыл бұрын

    haha throwback to two years ago when i took classics

  • @The_Marssh
    @The_Marssh9 жыл бұрын

    28:25

  • @kennethmilam2894
    @kennethmilam28942 жыл бұрын

    She likes to talk alot. Wheeeeee

  • @Muffinfordinner
    @Muffinfordinner11 жыл бұрын

    I don't see why they didn't just use a female actor for the female role. I know the Greeks didn't allow that but.. it would have been better.

  • @steveg8322
    @steveg83229 ай бұрын

    Hope’s got no franchise…

  • @LareinaTham
    @LareinaTham12 жыл бұрын

    When was this staged?

  • @lillianna270
    @lillianna2704 жыл бұрын

    well they don't have subs in part 2....

  • @Tindel10
    @Tindel1012 жыл бұрын

    It's hard for me to understand stuff like this. :/

  • @cole1714

    @cole1714

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's much easier if you've read a translation of Agamemnon and made sure that you understand that in itself before trying to understand a performance of the play, imo :) I also had to read along in my translation while watching the play just bc theyre kinda hard to understand sometimes, and some of their language is pretty weird here.

  • @arjan6996
    @arjan69963 жыл бұрын

    Who is here from Burnham grammar school?

  • @Markofitch
    @Markofitch11 жыл бұрын

    I disagree with you, It would be like the new Miley Cyrus!!!

  • @raisa_cherry33

    @raisa_cherry33

    5 жыл бұрын

    😂😂

  • @upsty6499
    @upsty64992 жыл бұрын

    The sickly cashew breath hey 👋 🤔

  • @LyndonLaRoucheArchive
    @LyndonLaRoucheArchive11 жыл бұрын

    I strongly disagree. The ancient dramatists were engaged in a fight against the backwardness that had kept Greece in a horrible dark age for centuries. Modern science fiction comes out of cultural movements that are aimed at degredation of the population.

  • @offworlder4694

    @offworlder4694

    4 жыл бұрын

    I know it's been 6 years...but as a Classicist and a science fiction writer, would you be able to elaborate on what you mean here about SF being "aimed at degredation of the population?"

  • @eleanormcloughlin2017

    @eleanormcloughlin2017

    3 жыл бұрын

    That seems like an oddly simplistic viewpoint.

  • @thegloriousmoodman2152
    @thegloriousmoodman21526 жыл бұрын

    why eliminate all trace of the female sex? and there’s a lot of yelling.

  • @wow1371

    @wow1371

    6 жыл бұрын

    Because believe it or not over 2 millennia ago women could not act on stage because they would be killed by the men.

  • @raisa_cherry33

    @raisa_cherry33

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@wow1371 😱

  • @ericbohun542
    @ericbohun5426 жыл бұрын

    You can see this video without the bar of pixelation at the bottom of the screen by searching for "Oresteia 1983 subtitled & cleaned"

  • @cristinewakesuphappy2798

    @cristinewakesuphappy2798

    5 жыл бұрын

    thanks so much. i really could use some subtitles. :)

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