noted, gonna make sure my team encircles spilo during patreon pugs so he ends up like this

I am the king of sandwiching myself while playing tracer because I get greedy trying to finish off a low HP target

@Real_MisterSir

Ай бұрын

fight for good angles over chasing elims, unless it's low risk and high certainty of success. The angle will keep providing value even if you don't get a kill immediately

@pepekovallin

Ай бұрын

Genji main that branches to tracer and reaper, it happens man lol, it's so much more infuriating when they break LOS for a literal second and they're already full health again

@StormcrowProductions

Ай бұрын

definitely times when it's ok-> cheating for a kill is often fine, but reading when the opportunity is worth it is the key

Spilo drawing clocks like US presidential candidates these days.

whats crazy is that I was literally thinking of this exact concept earlier. I've noticed a problem i have on tracer where I will often put myself in positions to be shot by a different enemy than the one i'm focusing. I didn't have the same name for it, but I like the way you explain it. literally put the words to the idea i was having

Okay, genuinely didn't know this. As a bronze/silver one trick genji, I really thought any dive was a good dive. But it makes sense, especially the part where "if they're looking at you and still looking at your team, it's a bad angle "

@pepekovallin

Ай бұрын

Genji main here too, another good thing to remember is that it's not always good to commit to a dive, genji is in a weird spot right now so pestering your enemies, specially the supports is just as valuable as killing them, in lower ranks support players tend to waste their resources immediately after receiving a good chunk of damage, if they do that it's safe to try to commit to a dive, if they don't, now they're looking at you and not your team, which means your tank already has an advantage

@CGJero

Ай бұрын

​@pepekovallin absolutely true. I notice that in plat a lot. You have to work on poking with left click.

@josephdavis3472

Ай бұрын

@@pepekovallin basically, with genji you have to be able to confirm the kill without _exhausting_ dash. In this state of the game, genji simply won't survive if he uses his dash early. That's obviously not saying you can't commit dash if you are certain you'll get the reset... but you can expect to die if you _don't_ get the reset. Now the best way to force such an interaction is poking someone from good angle, and then committing the dash if you've obviously caught them off guard (i.e. you poke a bap AS he's lamping his tank, then he commits his regen burst, you con probably full commit... but if you don't have specific circumstances like that, you are better off _just_ poking for blade. It's all situational, but genji is the hardest hero, so you should expect it to be situational.

@group555_

Ай бұрын

@@pepekovallin this is also applies to winston, sometimes you gotta hold back and play distance instead of committing. and other times you jump in just to be annoying and waste some recoucres despite no kill being available. this game is all about going with the flow instead of trying to brute force

@kingofgrim4761

Ай бұрын

I’d be fine with them buffing genji if they could fix his hitbox/deflect to be consistent. The fact it’s RNG if the deflect will block my shot, and the amount of hit markers that end up being deflected is insane. Not too mention his dumb ass body hitbox while in the air. Like fix those things and I’ll be happy

This is the most useful advice I've heard in any guide for anything ever, I thought I understood off angles and mid fight rotations until I seen this

The killbox is a concept people should learn to recognize. Seeing those zones will help you avoid a lot of unnecessary damage

I'm not sure if you mentioned this or not, but another thing that's bad about being in the enemy team is that you exhaust more cooldowns (unnecessarily) to escape

this is your best video man. i can see you making even more fancier version of this at some point its that good

Thank you. This has been very enlightening and it now gives me something new to practice.

bro this is a mistake I make so often. Thank u sooo much :)

Damn... this guy is good :O I've needed this for a while lol

A tip a friend gave me is to look at the enemy perspective. When you look at the tracer sandwich from the perspective of the enemy team it makes a ton of sense

10:48 haha he said poop

@yinx9

Ай бұрын

Hehe, poop. Hehe

@ichigo_34

Ай бұрын

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excellent video coach

good advice. I'll use this in my overwatch matches

how do you go into that top-down angle in replays, i feel like this would help me learn so much! great vid!

This is one of the best tips ever!!! A fundamental principle that can assure your safety while also being a threat!!!

Thanks!

i am going to apply this principle on my sombra, im certain it will help but if it doesnt i will surely go to you for a bit of coaching. bc i make none of the mistakes that the last dia sombra you coached made and could even predict over 90 percent of outcomes before you paused the vod, now im seriously searching for the things that i do wrong starting with what he got right. after all me and that guy are the same rank and if i predict every small mistake that must mean there is something else flawed about my plays.

@300ml_brasil

Ай бұрын

all of this is becouse i believe im at the point where i need a significantly deeper understanding of the fundamentals of sombra to climb again

good video, started laughing at 0:57 lol good bit

After watching these vids I always hop into a game right after to practice what I learned.

So when I play junkrat and go for a flank, I should stick to the clock to make sure I can pick favorable 1v1s?

how do you get the overlay for damage taken and stuff

I'm bronze if not paper, thank you for this amazing insight to positioning!

Will this be on the exam?

@dinoooooom

24 күн бұрын

Every match is OW is an exam that questions our sanity

spilo kinda off topic but a lot of people insist that symmetra now needs some crazy rework to work, let alone healing turrets like some people suggest (i dont think theyd work on sym anyway as youd drag down the entire team to one location) like she was never good in ow2 (she was really good from s2 to s7 imo) i think all she needs is taking less time to fully charge her orb to 100 dmg, as 1 second is too much imo considering she cant 2 shot. and maybe make her laser take 7 ammo per second again rather than 10

Being technically good is one thing. But understanding positioning is a whole different dimension to shooters. If you have bad aim but still do well in game, you might be someone who thinks of the game in these ways.

I like to remember that you could win a game without killing anyone. So I don’t always have to risk chasing down someone to get that kill.

4:20 me at age 90 taking the clock drawing test

How to find the clockwise positioning when I'm unaware of the enemy location?

@SToad

Ай бұрын

I also have this question. Maybe better game sense, or assuming what routes can the enemies take according to their movement abilities? But maybe it’s not good to assume.

@sammysammyson

Ай бұрын

Map knowledge and game sense helps a lot ("I know Soldier is probably going to be there because there's a health pack and I can't see him") and it gets easier as you play with people who talk in VC or use the ping system frequently. You won't ever really have 100% perfect knowledge. You have 10 positions to keep track of, and some of those positions could change rapidly with some level of invisibility or mobility, and you won't always have LOS to them. Listening to sound cues helps a lot, too. If you hear somebody shoot and have zero clue where they are, it's definitely an indicator to re-evaluate the battlefield in that instant.

@olirahaman9408

Ай бұрын

@@SToad yeah you got it right, but that takes time to understand or assume probably.

@olirahaman9408

Ай бұрын

@@sammysammyson for map knowledge i started watching the map guides, then again playing maps more frequently helps more than guide videos, and i shouldve said i know where enemies are mostly by footsteps, but thinking about all the enemies location at the same time takes time to think, which im sure will take less time over me playing more. teammate who indicates and comms are the best ones, no one loses with them, so you're right about that. thanks for your onion bro

@sammysammyson

Ай бұрын

@@olirahaman9408 Yeah! Best of luck. Honestly, map knowledge makes you feel like a god. An enemy is low and away from their supports, and they start to move toward what you know is a health pack? Well, you can pre-fire since you know that! On Tracer, I get my fair share of kills by blinking to where the pack is to finish them off before they can take it. Best of luck, and may your games never be filled with people throwing and flaming!

Nah this season has been unbearable, mobility season my ass. It’s just “Hog didn’t work I go Mauga” every game on Ball. I never thought they’d have me wanting Orisa meta back but here we are

is this what they call angle maxing?

0:18 thats his mistake, just listen to what tracer says

So from my perspective with the Route 66 emp sombras best play was to do exactly what she did but then translocate back to high ground immediately after emp. Why was that not mentioned am I missing something?

@LuigixD

Ай бұрын

Or just translocate from the outside instead of between enemies coming from 2 opposite angles

@Konaree_

Ай бұрын

IMO Sombra's team was too far from that EMP and they wouldn't be able to keep up the pressure on the enemy team. And if she TPs back to the high ground after ult she won't be able to secure the kill (she can't drop to chase someone bcs she doesn't have tp) and it's just wasted EMP. That's what I think

@Real_MisterSir

Ай бұрын

Because it first of all means you have to use translocator just to stay alive- at a point where you'd ideally want to be the one going hard on pressure. A slightly suboptimal emp is still better if it means you can stay on a good angle and immediately pressure the target(s) you hit with your emp. Especially if you're ulting alone with minimal follow up chance. Keeping your abilities instead of blowing them needlessly (or putting yourself in a situation where you have no choice but to use them) is often detrimental to your initial goal.

3:36 how was this not clock movement? Tracer strafed around the enemy team, she just got out-clocked by the other Tracer. I don't understand how you avoid getting out-clocked based on this video

The brain age music hits different nowadays

Oh it’s me

as a dps you gotta give backshots ?? 😲😲😲

Bros, out of subject but i wanna hear some things out im new and have completed rank requirement i've played 2 ranked already, but now i am waiting 10-15min of queue time, So is the game seriously dead? Have I watched this and other channels for guideline just to see the long queue time?

@bostafu

Ай бұрын

There's enough people playing but matchmaking just having a tough time matching you

@tommytx3769

Ай бұрын

Game's far from dead just by looking at Steam's player numbers. As you just started, the matchmaking probably needs more time to find out where to put you as it lacks data!

@olirahaman9408

Ай бұрын

@@tommytx3769 Oh, the game predicts that i'd go to silver or higher only after 2 match, so its confusing to me how it can predict by looking at my game numerics but yeah if its only my prblm then i'll be more patient next time, i'll start cooking something in the middle of the queue XD

@olirahaman9408

Ай бұрын

@@bostafu yeah others said its me who's the prblm, new players need some more numeric calculation to get queued with some more like me.

@SToad

Ай бұрын

@@olirahaman9408 Well they have 7 years of data, they can predict based on all your stats including hundreds that you will never see and blizzard won’t ever tell, and correlate the difference between say a GM tracer and a Silver tracer. It’s not perfect but seems to work, since most people get “stuck” on the rank they get put on.

Ok I will break the ice here, and say--yes all of these are great. But first and foremost what you need to win in a shooter game is AIM. If you can't aim, you're gonna have it hard. Specially as a DPS. Some people actually manage to play stuff like Junk/Rein/Winston and be succesful, and I guess those are the exception to the rule. But AIM is mostly the FIRST and most important thing in this game.

@kingofgrim4761

Ай бұрын

Can confirm, especially early on, my aim singlehandedly carried me to top 500. I was a top 5 not using high ground because it would screw my aim worse than the enemies

❤ "you have more opportunities to make really stupid decisions" ❤

@ow_kakarot

Ай бұрын

Stay outside of the pentagram, thanks coach ❤

Yeah that Lars guy is pretty bad am I right?

“Was it all Ohio” “Always has been”

man if only overwatch was fun to play i really miss it

shit like this is causing my plat/diamond games to be literally everyone on the team flanking. Doom/ball, tracer/sombra, genji/echo/pharah, then some random useless moira, and illari hiding and crying behind a corner. It's fucking chaos, and enemy teams just stick together and plow thru everyone 1 by 1 and win. Hardstuck players have been watching advice videos like this for a year straight, and it's finally catching up. They're so desperate and drooling for a win, they just end up feeding/inting like silver players all over again, and there's massive decision making valleys and skill gaps now more than ever. Different rank different meta. We got like 70% of the playerbase consolidated in the same 2 rank divisions trying desperately to get out and it's a total clown show. I'm sure this works at higher ranks though, or like those 10% of games that are a toss up coin flip. . lol... Good advice tho spilo ty

So basically what you're saying is to avoid getting sandwiched and instead sandwich someone else who is out of position?

Nah the mistake was failing at the 1v1

Spilo could be a football coach lol making up plays lol

W clock

Spilo singlehandedly ruining ranked. Now there are too many people with good knowledge. It'll make it harder to climb when more people know how to play the game. Let's keep this coaching stuff more niche please. Your tips are too good and is getting alot of views.