The Oldest Known Venomous Land Predator?

The extraordinary Euchambersia, an ancient relative of mammals, might have had a deadly venomous bite. Join us as we search for more evidence of this fascinating animal in the Karoo semi-desert of South Africa and explore what makes this creature so remarkable.
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  • @pandacidalmaniac2439
    @pandacidalmaniac2439 Жыл бұрын

    Did Doug ever recover from the desert madness? Or is he still seeing dinosaurs to this day?

  • @mastathrash5609

    @mastathrash5609

    Жыл бұрын

    You can't imagine what it's like! It's like ...it's like...you can only see dinosaurs!

  • @crabclaw_

    @crabclaw_

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mastathrash5609 and pigs

  • @saalkz.a.9715

    @saalkz.a.9715

    Жыл бұрын

    But... But, dinosaurs are real and around us (somewhere)... They always steal your socks, but only the left one. PS.: That wasn't a pig, it was a Pigosaurus Baconensis!

  • @ZeFroz3n0ne907

    @ZeFroz3n0ne907

    Жыл бұрын

    @@saalkz.a.9715 When you said the part about the socks I had the scene from HTTYD in my head, Gobber's lines haha. Also, "RAAAAAAGH! Mornin'!"

  • @jacobv3396

    @jacobv3396

    Жыл бұрын

    He's "walking with dinosaurs". *ba dum ts*

  • @persianking44
    @persianking44 Жыл бұрын

    In an alternate universe, Ben and Doug getting lost would have led them to the discovery of a complete Euchambersia skeleton with evidence of venom glands, while Doug randomly pointing out where the dinosaurs were, were in fact exactly where some complete and nearly complete dinosaur skeletons were lol

  • @sava-smth

    @sava-smth

    Жыл бұрын

    And pigs

  • @theaveragecomment1014

    @theaveragecomment1014

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sava-smth gotta remember the pigs

  • @AlbertaGeek
    @AlbertaGeek Жыл бұрын

    Thing is, though, if Doug was pointing at birds when he was saying "There's a dinosaur!", he's not actually wrong.

  • @Denuhm
    @Denuhm Жыл бұрын

    I grew up in this part of south africa and I would've loved to look for fossils there. Sadly my family are staunch creationists and any fossils I brought home were from the flood, 6000 years ago so I stopped - these days I live very close to Lyme Regis and go find fossils every time there is a storm :)

  • @DardS8Br

    @DardS8Br

    Жыл бұрын

    What stuff did you find?

  • @danieljob3184

    @danieljob3184

    Жыл бұрын

    What is more believable? 1: the earth is only 6,000 years old? 2: while the Greeks were masters of geometry & mathematics, they were a bit sh*t at other languages!?

  • @dr.floridaman4805

    @dr.floridaman4805

    Жыл бұрын

    No creator? Lmao prove it. For real. You can't. You will see soon enough. As for the 6k year theory that is brainwashed indoctrination There was a huge deluge about 12.5k yrs ago. Flood mythos is real. Research any ancient culture around the world. The flood happened. Man is older than 1.8 million years. Aryan tooth found in Georgia Caucasus mountains region dated to 1.8 million year. You are limited by men who wrote books that you believe through faith. Your science is a cult

  • @nalinux

    @nalinux

    Жыл бұрын

    At least you didn't become creationist :) In the spanish part of Pyrennées mountains, we walk on so many oysters fossils we don't even pay attention.

  • @DardS8Br

    @DardS8Br

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dr.floridaman4805 prove there is a creator

  • @Cat_Woods
    @Cat_Woods Жыл бұрын

    "We're not lost. They're lost." Iconic.

  • @thedoruk6324
    @thedoruk6324 Жыл бұрын

    Whether venomous or not we could all agree that it was the *goodest of the bois*

  • @stoned9874

    @stoned9874

    Жыл бұрын

    yes we can

  • @thedoruk6324

    @thedoruk6324

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stoned9874 It literally looks like an arcane ancient primordial golden or labrador retriever lol

  • @Kroggnagch

    @Kroggnagch

    Жыл бұрын

    I can agree it was the longest of faces

  • @wyvern723

    @wyvern723

    Жыл бұрын

    The first goodest boi?

  • @stoned9874

    @stoned9874

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thedoruk6324 INNIT?! its adorable 😍

  • @rileyernst9086
    @rileyernst9086 Жыл бұрын

    I can't help but think that from looking for Lystrosaurus to searching for euchambersia you the expedition was ramped up in difficulty by several orders of magnitude.

  • @WaterShowsProd
    @WaterShowsProd Жыл бұрын

    Loved this episode. It's great to show the realities of field work, and it still remains very informative. While the idea of a sensory organ is intriguing, it doesn't take into account its position above the canines, nor the fold on the tooth itself; I think venom makes far more sense, or at least a digestive enzyme as there are no rear teeth for processing. Also, I think Doug should do his own adaptation of The Four Feathers.

  • @nalinux

    @nalinux

    Жыл бұрын

    Julien works for real :)

  • @liammurphy2725

    @liammurphy2725

    Жыл бұрын

    I really liked the little snippet on acquiring the perceptual vision needed for effective field work.

  • @TheAnimalKingdom-tq3sz
    @TheAnimalKingdom-tq3sz Жыл бұрын

    Lystrosaurus: "One shall stand!" Euchambersia: "One shall fall!"

  • @kahonk269

    @kahonk269

    Жыл бұрын

    Why throw away your life so recklessly?

  • @Christian_Sims

    @Christian_Sims

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kahonk269 That's a question you should ask yourself Euchambersia

  • @the13inquisitor59

    @the13inquisitor59

    Жыл бұрын

    Not a reference I would've expected, but one I can appreciate.

  • @ItachiTsukuyomi98

    @ItachiTsukuyomi98

    Жыл бұрын

    @@the13inquisitor59 gotta love G1 Optimus Prime

  • @danieltaylor5231
    @danieltaylor5231 Жыл бұрын

    How could you tell Doug was going insane? He seems just like normal for 3D Doug.

  • @mastathrash5609

    @mastathrash5609

    Жыл бұрын

    OOooh!! SO MANY DINOSAURS BEN! 😆

  • @Andreas_42

    @Andreas_42

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mastathrash5609 Sounded more like dinosaw. Or dinosauce. 😁

  • @mastathrash5609

    @mastathrash5609

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Andreas_42 That's what you put on the dinosaur after you roasted it.

  • @Albukhshi
    @Albukhshi Жыл бұрын

    @ 13:09 Famous doesn't begin to describe this guy. He had a very colorful career as a paleontologist, adventurer, spy, and even tried to become king of Albania. I still remember reading about this guy, almost 15 years ago, and thinking "this guy was wild!" He isn't just famous for dinosaurs: guy was a pioneer in Paleobiology as we know it now, and island dwarfism. Illness eventually drove him to commit a murder-suicide in 1933. @17:22 He's reminding me of Nigel Davenport's depiction of George III's madness... Yeah, it's a very niche reference, but trust me, it makes sense.

  • @uliuchu4318
    @uliuchu4318 Жыл бұрын

    The Karoo sure has its own special beauty... I was there for a botanical excursion once. And desert madness is real. As a botanist it let's you see Lithops and Hydnoras everywhere... And I also found a tortoise skull. The killer could also be identified quickly by the burnt surroundings. That poor thing couldn't outrun a bush fire...

  • @TheHazza
    @TheHazza Жыл бұрын

    When Doug goes mad he becomes Australian.

  • @RyanPHill77
    @RyanPHill77 Жыл бұрын

    This series is fantastic. Not only do I get to see the day-to-day reality of paleontologist sin the field (I still partly regret not taking that route years ago), but my son can see it too (his future dream career)!

  • @entropicflux8849

    @entropicflux8849

    Жыл бұрын

    i love it when paleontologists sin the field.

  • @matthewhatherley3020

    @matthewhatherley3020

    Жыл бұрын

    @@entropicflux8849 🤣

  • @fernbedek6302
    @fernbedek6302 Жыл бұрын

    Well, they found some synapsid bones eventually. That’s good. Even if they’re a bit recent.

  • @pyrobeast_jack
    @pyrobeast_jack Жыл бұрын

    so jealous... i wanted to be a paleontologist so bad, but my physical disabilities would never permit such a career path for me :( it is quite fun watching and learning, though. thank you for bringing it to a place where so many can enjoy.

  • @dylanwickund9109
    @dylanwickund9109 Жыл бұрын

    I find the animals before and after the dinosaurs way more interesting

  • @mhdfrb9971

    @mhdfrb9971

    Жыл бұрын

    They all are equally interesting

  • @dylanwickund9109

    @dylanwickund9109

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mhdfrb9971 yes but my whole life up until i started doing my own research did i get to learn about more then just dinosaurs as a child until like 14 i didnt think there was anything before the dinosaurs and my whole life up until then even now is only dinosaurs on tv shows and movies which is cool i guess but i wish the other equally and more badass would get some screentime too besides the small documentaries

  • @mhdfrb9971

    @mhdfrb9971

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dylanwickund9109 sorry for my bad English

  • @LadyhawksLairDotCom

    @LadyhawksLairDotCom

    Жыл бұрын

    I find them _all_ interesting.

  • @lynnhayes2363
    @lynnhayes2363 Жыл бұрын

    I always thought the first venomous dino-era animal would be in Australia. Good luck w your work!

  • @ArtisticlyAlexis
    @ArtisticlyAlexis Жыл бұрын

    These videos have been more informative than most of the major production companies docs. I can't wait to see where you guys go next time!

  • @chumati1578
    @chumati1578 Жыл бұрын

    Imagine if every location Doug pointed towards really had a dinosaur fossil embedded in them lol

  • @Lillian2167
    @Lillian2167 Жыл бұрын

    I'm so jealous, it must have been so exciting finding the fossils and trying to figure out what you'd found. :3

  • @revolvermaster4939
    @revolvermaster4939 Жыл бұрын

    I was on the edge of my couch watching y’all ford that raging river

  • @Grautmann
    @Grautmann Жыл бұрын

    Glad you guys survived the perilous journey across half of africa to find your missing team-mates!

  • @Cursethedawn
    @Cursethedawn Жыл бұрын

    I'm never quite sure if Doug enjoys paleontology or absolutely hates it.

  • @J242D
    @J242D Жыл бұрын

    16:26 holy shit why is Doug’s American accent so goddamn clean LMFAOO

  • @ZeFroz3n0ne907
    @ZeFroz3n0ne907 Жыл бұрын

    I was not expecting the cardboard cutout, hahaha. Well played.

  • @dylanwickund9109
    @dylanwickund9109 Жыл бұрын

    This is the stuff i love as people dont know some animals carry slight venoms

  • @rexmagi4606
    @rexmagi4606 Жыл бұрын

    Hunting for venemous monsters with Dr Nwah. Little did we know Ben was writing the script for Elder Scrolls 6.

  • @alvaronavarro4895
    @alvaronavarro4895 Жыл бұрын

    Oh wow what a treat of a video! Thank you guys for nurturing the passion of my Life!

  • @capnbeenieweenie5603
    @capnbeenieweenie5603 Жыл бұрын

    Love this series! Keep up the great work lads.

  • @grimmcreole44
    @grimmcreole44 Жыл бұрын

    Ben and Doug's excellent adventure is truly a blessing to this decaying platform

  • @oriondye3212
    @oriondye3212 Жыл бұрын

    Assume they’re not counting arthropods or insects in the category if land predators.

  • @MaryAnnNytowl
    @MaryAnnNytowl Жыл бұрын

    You bring us such interesting ancient critters to learn about! Thanks for what you do. ❤️❤️❣️

  • @ericl447
    @ericl447 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you guys for continuing to educate our world. You are a service to humanity. 👍

  • @ltlbuddha
    @ltlbuddha Жыл бұрын

    "Mr. Doug has got the madness, he does, Sir Ben. Is it off to Bedlam with him, then?"

  • @oyecomova5478
    @oyecomova5478 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video, loved the journey!

  • @craftycriminalistwithms.z3053
    @craftycriminalistwithms.z3053 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this I really enjoyed it all, I kit only learned somethings I also laughed super hard at you all, and I don’t laugh enough especially in watch videos, so thank you so very much ❤

  • @jacksonhiatt4174
    @jacksonhiatt4174 Жыл бұрын

    Given the lack of teeth behind the canines, could the extra large salivary glands function as a means to lubricate large mouthfuls of food for ease of swallowing?

  • @kuitaranheatmorus9932
    @kuitaranheatmorus9932 Жыл бұрын

    These videos never fail to interested and expand my love for prehistory reat Hope you guys have a good day

  • @kaloarepo288
    @kaloarepo288 Жыл бұрын

    The platypus of Australia is a mammal (non placental)that has a poisonous spur -only current mammal I can think of that is venomous.

  • @jake.g1

    @jake.g1

    Жыл бұрын

    The slow loris too, there's probably not many but theres others.

  • @markshort9098

    @markshort9098

    Жыл бұрын

    There's a lot more venomous mammals than you think.. a quick google search will surprise you

  • @johnsamu
    @johnsamu Жыл бұрын

    Always fun to discuss if a poisonous animal is venomous or a venomous animal is poisonous 😉😁

  • @patreekotime4578

    @patreekotime4578

    Жыл бұрын

    Venom is active and is typically injected. Poison is passive and just exists.

  • @astick5249
    @astick5249 Жыл бұрын

    17:11 I like how Ben in more concerned that Doug is seeing dinosaurs due to them being in a permian fossil site and not because he is seeing dinosaurs.

  • @PowerScissor
    @PowerScissor Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if anyone has studied the evolution of the monsters who put toilet paper rolls on backwards. Fascinating group of people, they are.

  • @sandybarnes887

    @sandybarnes887

    Жыл бұрын

    Define backwards

  • @WAMTAT
    @WAMTAT Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant series

  • @zipsey
    @zipsey Жыл бұрын

    Love this channel

  • @Goddot
    @Goddot23 күн бұрын

    I loved seeing the very human part of work that involves goofing off with friends.

  • @AbuctingTacos
    @AbuctingTacos Жыл бұрын

    So refreshing to see real science being done

  • @robrice7246
    @robrice7246 Жыл бұрын

    This was the synapsid that most likely appeared in the Triassic section from the Walking with Monsters episode "Clash of Titans".

  • @TVAVStudios
    @TVAVStudios Жыл бұрын

    The "Damn." gag legit cracked me up. Well done.

  • @Tuishimi
    @Tuishimi Жыл бұрын

    Fun! Thanks for sharing.

  • @rosekay5031
    @rosekay5031 Жыл бұрын

    This is my favourite Ben Thomas upload

  • @gafrers
    @gafrers Жыл бұрын

    Awesome series

  • @WhiteNucklin
    @WhiteNucklin Жыл бұрын

    Dudes this is awesome!

  • @John.0z
    @John.0z Жыл бұрын

    How can we get a copy of the data to 3D print a copy of that Euchambersia skull???

  • @veneraberens2547
    @veneraberens2547 Жыл бұрын

    COOL ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO WITH ON SITE TAPE

  • @fuccyahhat1229
    @fuccyahhat1229 Жыл бұрын

    Nice work boys 👍🏼

  • @bluedragon219123
    @bluedragon219123 Жыл бұрын

    I said this on another video about this animal and I'll say it again: IT. LOOKS. SO. HAPPY! :)

  • @-_-thisnameiscreativeasfuc4734
    @-_-thisnameiscreativeasfuc4734 Жыл бұрын

    Doug turned into Bear Grylls for a little bit

  • @SeverusFelix
    @SeverusFelix Жыл бұрын

    "We were on the hunt for a very different animal. . . MAN" Oh I thought this was going a different direction

  • @robrice7246
    @robrice7246 Жыл бұрын

    Here's an interesting question, when finding fossils would something like a portable gamma-ray detector work?

  • @theamorphousflatsch2699

    @theamorphousflatsch2699

    Жыл бұрын

    No, im not sure why you would think that.

  • @patrickjanecke5894

    @patrickjanecke5894

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably not. To my understanding, gamma emitting isotopes don't favor fossiliferous minerals.

  • @lazertuiyope

    @lazertuiyope

    Жыл бұрын

    Interesting question

  • @therealzilch
    @therealzilch Жыл бұрын

    The oldest known venemous land predator? Count me in. Great work as usual Lunch invitation still open. cheers from rainy Vienna, Scott

  • @stoneworld5962
    @stoneworld59624 ай бұрын

    Entracte Science channel (from the french paleontologist in video) is one of my fav in french, great to see both Ben G Thomas and him in a video !

  • @AlbertaGeek
    @AlbertaGeek Жыл бұрын

    Exactly what, in those wide-open expenses, was being hunted that a human was in danger of being mistaken for it? "It's a good thing that fellow was wearing a high-visibility vest, otherwise I could have sworn he was an elephant!"

  • @fuckYTIDontWantToUseMyRealName
    @fuckYTIDontWantToUseMyRealName Жыл бұрын

    So Doug finally went off the deep end? I knew it would come eventually.

  • @Turdfergusen382
    @Turdfergusen382 Жыл бұрын

    Ben you are wonderful

  • @oisnowy5368
    @oisnowy5368 Жыл бұрын

    Fossils, fossils everywhere! And nary a drop of sanity...

  • @godslaughter
    @godslaughter Жыл бұрын

    ngl, I would have quite a hard time figuring out what's a rock and what's a Special Rock™, knowing that fossils are basically rocks. They're kinda like the shinies of the rock world.

  • @duneydan7993
    @duneydan7993 Жыл бұрын

    Is there supposed to be a next episod or was I cliffhangered into oblivion?

  • @jurassicroom7673

    @jurassicroom7673

    6 ай бұрын

    That's what I'm wondering did it end up as a Patreon exclusive? I don't see it addressed anywhere.

  • @ticklemedaddy
    @ticklemedaddy11 ай бұрын

    I don't see how that could be the "first" venomous predator, that's just a discord moderator

  • @steakfou5042
    @steakfou5042 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @laprankster3264
    @laprankster3264 Жыл бұрын

    10:50 “After making perilous crossings across vast bodies of water” now I can officially say that I have done so to impress my crush.

  • @charlesjmouse
    @charlesjmouse Жыл бұрын

    "Bah! I'll be shot if I go looking for any more fossils!" You may well be right ...

  • @patrickjanecke5894
    @patrickjanecke5894 Жыл бұрын

    The yellow vests are okay, I guess, but I'd still feel much safer wearing blaze orange if there's a hunt going on.

  • @michaelpytel3280
    @michaelpytel3280 Жыл бұрын

    Perhaps it is Doug that is Venomous .

  • @leechild4655
    @leechild4655 Жыл бұрын

    If they had no mol;ars for chewing maybe the fossa contained a digestive juice rather than some venom though they may be two of the same thing?

  • @catfishcain
    @catfishcain Жыл бұрын

    When can we expect the last videos for this series to be posted?

  • @tanyabreach6422
    @tanyabreach64222 ай бұрын

    its not difficult getting lost in the New Forest. Thanks for being the Palaeontologists we needed for those of us interested but can't do it too.

  • @sassa82
    @sassa82 Жыл бұрын

    Very nice drawings

  • @jthomas8263
    @jthomas8263 Жыл бұрын

    Ben and Doig, 🦖 Ancient eggshells show dinosaurs already dying out before asteroid strike, Chinese scientists say.

  • @herbertkeithmiller
    @herbertkeithmiller Жыл бұрын

    Lions and spiders and rocks oh my

  • @rileyernst9086
    @rileyernst9086 Жыл бұрын

    Lots of old bones, and dinosaurs getting around. Sounds very much like last time i was in the desert.

  • @HebaruSan
    @HebaruSan Жыл бұрын

    Those vests are just creating selection pressure for all of the animals to turn bright yellow

  • @froggyweathers9257
    @froggyweathers9257 Жыл бұрын

    Sweet Flippin video

  • @teawrecks1243
    @teawrecks1243 Жыл бұрын

    Would synapsids have sweated milk, or a primitive analogue of it, similar to modern monotremes?

  • @richardanderson8696
    @richardanderson8696 Жыл бұрын

    These 'in the field' videos are good, but I think I actually prefer the previous narration-led style that focuses on packing in the information. But that's just me, and I appreciate you probably feel the need to grow and to evolve the way you produce these videos.

  • @everett8948
    @everett894811 ай бұрын

    Hey what's up Ben, I'm loving the videos but I'm wondering why it is that Doug never makes an appearance. Unless you count the cardboard cutout with the badly timed mouth movement LOL!

  • @tofuteh2348
    @tofuteh2348 Жыл бұрын

    Love it

  • @dylanwickund9109
    @dylanwickund9109 Жыл бұрын

    So they may have vemom sacs? That so cool

  • @JoeSmith-vf9gz
    @JoeSmith-vf9gz Жыл бұрын

    These guys could extrapolate a million years of history from a stone that I would skip across a pond.

  • @GhoulsMagnets
    @GhoulsMagnets Жыл бұрын

    10:05 The scrublands of Cornwall are really beautiful, and who can forget about the dunes of Sussex

  • @jerryfrost8136
    @jerryfrost8136 Жыл бұрын

    I like the evidence for Euchambersia being venomous, the grooved teeth and possible glands look similar to the Gila Monster. Not having molars suggests to me a cytotoxin to assist break down possible liquify flesh to aid in digestion. Watching the field work illustrates why all the time devoted to preparation is necessary to figuring fossils out. Do you and Doug do preparation or stick to the field?

  • @lucasgaudio3720
    @lucasgaudio3720 Жыл бұрын

    So… you got lost in place that has lions on it…. That was a much more dire situation than you realized

  • @herbertkeithmiller
    @herbertkeithmiller Жыл бұрын

    🦕🦖 now you've got me seeing them too

  • @flightlesslord2688
    @flightlesslord2688 Жыл бұрын

    'that concerning considering we're in the Permian' lol

  • @satanofficial3902
    @satanofficial3902 Жыл бұрын

    "Rocks are rocky. But not bullwinkle-y." ---Albert Einstein

  • @kamnale1317
    @kamnale1317 Жыл бұрын

    28:50 you could find some dinosaur bones tho, from ostriches for example

  • @Invading-Specious
    @Invading-Specious Жыл бұрын

    thank you.

  • @nalinux
    @nalinux Жыл бұрын

    Nice to see Julien here ! For those who can understand french, his YT channel "Entracte science" is to see. Too bad he is not in the sources ...

  • @SnootyFarkleboob
    @SnootyFarkleboob9 ай бұрын

    "that's what palaeontology is all about.... failure." I'm just trying to listen to something fun and cool while I slog away in the lab and you read me like this. 😭😭

  • @riftlee
    @riftlee Жыл бұрын

    Is it possible they had molars in the lower jaw and a leathery pad for grinding the top jaw, like cows sort of?