The Next Best Poker Player? | Owen "PRODIGY" Messere
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In episode 28 of the MOPP we chat with high-stakes cash-game player Owen “PRODIGY” Messers. In the pod we discuss his recent 100k HU match against Doug Polk and dive deep into his poker journey, discussing challenges, strategies, and his transition from international-level chess. Unpack the psychology behind decision-making, understand the mechanics of poker, and discover how to optimize your game with solvers. Owen also touches on the balance of talent vs. hard work and shares invaluable lessons he's learned along the way. Don't miss Adam and Rene's main takeaways at the end!
0:00 - Introduction
02:17 - Shoutout to our sponsor GTO Wizard
03:10 - Taking on Doug Polk in a live HU challenge
05:37 - Owen’s confidence playing live
12:11 - Feeling “high” when someone quits you heads-up
16:11 - When good regs have you feeling lost with your strategy
20:20 - Why Owen chooses to play tough games
22:44 - Pokers gambling image vs sport image
29:30 - Playing chess at international level when younger
32:35 - The similarities between chess and poker
36:32 - Why heads-up there is nowhere to hide
41:13 - Thriving on competition and tough opponents
43:50 - Where the PRODIGY nickname came from
46:14 - Rising to $1KNL within one year
49:16 - Going all-in on poker from day one
51:03 - The Mechanics of Poker 2.0 program
53:03 - Losing half of his bankroll at $5KNL and how Owen handled it
56:50 - Joining Gorilla poker and closing the gap
59:35 - The importance of finding the deciding factor
1:02:06 - Where people make mistakes in their decision making
1:04:42 - Simplified vs complex strategies
1:09:45 - Embracing your fancy play syndrome
1:13:20 - The dangers of doing too much studying
1:16:36 - Being scared of folding against good players
1:20:24 - Why studying blockers before $5KNL is a waste of time
1:25:56 - Why the execution of your strategy is so the most important thing
1:31:02 - Keeping an open mind and learning from all players
1:32:45 - Picking up on the psychology of fish strategies
1:35:15 - What a day in the life of Owen looks like
1:40:07 - Why everyone should put their strategy into a solver
1:45:18 - Learning from a solver by handcuffing it’s strategy
1:47:50 - The best thing a player can do to increase the EV of his career
1:51:30 - How Owen fixed his projection bias
1:54:50 - The Mechanics of Poker 2.0 program
1:57:00 - The challenges Owen experiences with his C-game
2:00:50 - Why Owen removes deviations in his game when he isn’t at his best
2:04:21 - How mathematical proofs help with decision making in poker
2:07:30 - Players get lost in the search for certainty
2:08:50 - Putting people to the test, information gathering and information rich showdowns
2:11:44 - The importance of trending towards happiness
2:17:00 - How to change the way you look at what you compete for
2:21:03 - How Owen knows he’s winning his weeks
2:26:18 - The most important lesson poker has taught him
2:30:00 - Focusing on what you control in a high variance world
2:31:50 - Is the luck in the “real world” often more than poker?
2:35:35 - What attracted Rene to poker initially?
2:41:20 - Poker makes you humble
2:46:22- The best players are very open minded
2:49:40 - Talent vs hard work: which one wins?
2:57:45 - The main takeaway that Owen would like for the audience
3:00:09 - Adam and Renes main takeaways
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Those are the types of guests we need! Thanks guys
Main Takeaway: Nobody churns out more high stakes crushers than Uri Peleg and Guerilla Poker 😂
@Sawstinker
8 ай бұрын
bitb would like a word
Enfant Prodige next? 🤔
So excited for this one! thanks for the great content
Sick One! Need MrBuilderman on the Podcast, 240k hands a month on 500/1k with winrate on GG is something different
@MechanicsOfPoker
8 ай бұрын
That’s indeed pretty insane, would love to have someone like that on and share his approach to being a professional poker player
Thanks for posting
This guy is a fucking beast intellectually and in terms of work ethic. Great episode again.
Really like Owen Has given a lot of great replies to my RIO posts over the years, and was really open to answering questions when I’ve asked directly Great to see him doing well!
@yufengxu3950
8 ай бұрын
What’s his runitonce screename
High value content. Thank you for providing.
My main takeaways are to use opponent's showdowns to extrapolate what other mistakes they make elsewhere when spotting one, and that when a hand behaves differently than the rest of the range, understanding why can teach us concepts that we can apply to different scenarios. Also try putting your trategy into a solver at least once to see how solver respond to it.
Really nice guy, awesome pod
Looking forward to listening to this one. Thank you very much for the detailed timestamps! When do we find out who won the 1mo GTO Wizard sub from the last pod?
@MechanicsOfPoker
8 ай бұрын
Usually when the next episode drops, but was a bit delayed with that, just handed it out, you can usually see it in the comments of the previous episde where i reply to someone. I pick a couple of takeaways, throw them in a wheel of names and have luck decide the eventual winners
Great interview! Does anyone know where and what name he streamed under? Wondering if there is footage available still.
Great podcast team 🔥🔥🔥🎊🎊
Amazing podcast! My main takeaways are: - People generally don't quit poker because of downswings, but because of something going very wrong in their life that the downswing exacerbates - You learn much better when you articulate how you're thinking properly before you study something - Blockers only matter against players who are very well balanced. Anyone studying blockers before 5000NL is probably wasting their time - People put too much weight on the exact frequency, they should just look at it like "this is the main line, this is the side line" - Put your opponents in situations where you're hard to play against but at the same time simplifying for yourself
Fun to hear the grindcore shoutout, I remember watching his vids on DC back in the day.
@Doblou13
8 ай бұрын
what is DC
@CancelIFR
8 ай бұрын
@@Doblou13 deuces cracked, it was one of the original training sites.
@bryan-still-a-poker-player
8 ай бұрын
@@CancelIFRdid he do the thin red line series?
@CancelIFR
8 ай бұрын
@@bryan-still-a-poker-player yes
@bryan-still-a-poker-player
8 ай бұрын
@@CancelIFR iconic series imo
Great pod, interesting to hear how "coy" as he put it he was about giving away info. The contrast between Iluvavrillavigne and Owen is funny. I feel like he vaguely goes over things and is glossing and doesn't want to give anything away LOL kinda sad. While Matt gave away tons of gems. Great interview.
Adam is a man of exceedingly few words.
thanks
1:21:00 bookmark
whats his stars sn?
@Patrick-np7qq
8 ай бұрын
Sirious?! Read the title!!
@DANNYsosick
8 ай бұрын
@@Patrick-np7qqR U serious? That’s his acr. Stars is dnegs89 or something like this
@samwisegametree
8 ай бұрын
It's a spin on a famous poker player's name.
@matthiaskrenn7511
8 ай бұрын
@@Patrick-np7qq On stars? I‘ve never seen a „Prodigy“ on hs cash. EnfantProdige is a knows hs regular.
Surprised owen got through the whole pod...he looked "tired"
@owenmessere7850
8 ай бұрын
aha, good read I'd just played 8 hour session lol, by the end I wasn't sure I was making sense but I think they saved me in the edit ;)
is there any high-stakes player who doesn't use RNG?
nice....................
Live heads up has gotta be the least appealing game mode available. I'd rather play fixed limit 10-handed. Great podcast though!
I thought Owen was called prodigy due to being a chess prodigy as a kid. Guess not lol
Main Takeaway: Have a Plan.
"i want to be number 1"
Get enfant or buttonclicker!! Nice pd!!😊
LFG
My easiest opponents people that don’t even know how to live life
You have said too much.