RIP NOLE... wanted to give him a name... I think it's time that Nora gets trapped and gets that tattoo that I hate so much but it's worse to see her torture these poor babies... she may suffer from things we just can't pin point foe sure but she definitely should get that tattoo... hopefully someone give word to the people that handle that and they actually tattoo a female that 100% deserves it...

@jennifer294

2 жыл бұрын

Your absolutely right.. I'm sure AM knows someone that can make that happen!!

@Morteanjo2011

2 жыл бұрын

@@jennifer294 Yes some intervention needs to happen for Nora.

@ceciliaSF-TX

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a precarious balance: the monkeys are fed by humans but they remain wild? I don’t like that they have become reliant in humans out of necessity & good reason, but to intervene with ONE monkey who is clearly suffering from some sort of mental health issues w/her babies? How? Gypsy too! Tina? It is simply deeply sad. RIP baby!

@cathyw7067

2 жыл бұрын

She needs to be sterilized!

@faithhannah2280

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree she doesn't deserve any kids this breaks my heart 💔💔

It’s not the rain that’s making her act this way; she’s evil at heart.

@lisapinson2518

28 күн бұрын

Agree 💯

I spoke too soon when I thought Nora would come around, act like a mother, and help her baby survive. He did not, thanks to her callousness. Nora is truly a monster, letting her baby die like that, and should be the first in line to be spayed and tattooed. RIP little dude. 😭😭😢😢😿😿💔💔🇬🇧

@margaretgilbert8991

Жыл бұрын

Sorry can I ask what the relevance of a tattoo is ? Do the male monkeys recognise it or the rest of the troop , does she get downgraded in the hierarchy ? Or something

@michaelhearn3052

9 ай бұрын

@@margaretgilbert8991 The tattoo is an indicator to us humans, that the monkey has been neutered, it means nothing to the troupe members. This can happen to either males or females, depending on where they are caught in one of the two traps on Monkey Hill. It is also not confined to monkeys, as Hogs that inhabit the forest and Monkey Hill road are also neutered as well, if they are caught in one of the traps. It is done to try and control the troupe populations. There are on KZread some videos of the process being undertaken in Vietnam. Some countries, cull a set number each year (Singapore I think), which is reported in their newspapers. AM did some statistics in one of his investigatory videos: it may have been the Q&A Retained placentas & infant Mortality rate one, viewable on his channel. Basically, the females in a troupe will produce a baby inside of 5.5 months, and usually have a baby, every year or other year depending on how proactive the alpha male is in the troupe. Also a troupe will double its numbers in 4 years.

@hollisblinn7910

8 ай бұрын

​@@margaretgilbert8991 ​, if a monkey has a tattoo on its chest, it means it's either been neutered or spayed. They do it by tubal ligation, so the monkeys still have their ovaries and testes intact. In other words, they have no clue that anything has changed .

If you notice Nora's surviving offspring keep their distance from her.

I feel awful for Nora's baby. That poor little guy has no idea what to do, or what is going on.

RIP little guy. I'm hoping it's the last one she gave birth to. Watching her makes Gypsy look like a great Mom 😀❤️. I'm sure it was very difficult for you A.M. to film this. 😢. Take care! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

Wow. She was quick with destroying this little one. Only 3-4 days with this poor little boy. I've never wished for a female to get the dreaded tattoo... but I wish it for Nora. And Gypsy

Nora definitely needs the cage

I wish we had a name for the little one. I hope somehow they can capture Nora and have her fixed. She’s a cruel mother and doesn’t deserve babies. Your amazing for being able to watch her and share the plight of this little one. My heart hurts.

@maryfletcher4099

Жыл бұрын

I agree they need to dart her than fix her

She just diabolically won't let him nurse. I'm sorry. I can't watch Nora anymore.

I find it almost impossible to feel sorry for Nora, she has everything going for her and I think the treatment of her babies goes far beyond postpartum depression and crosses the line into purposeful cruelty. I don’t think I would mourn if her babie’s fates befell her except that Celessa seems to have her same temperament and I think she would be the same kind of matriarch and all that entails. RIP precious lil one.❤️ Some name suggestions for Bee’s baby: Beau, Benny, Beal, Bernie. Thank you for trying to help Nora’s baby AM.

@ickiedeer-lamb7282

2 жыл бұрын

Hu @trish. Does it due?😭😭😭

@charmed857

2 жыл бұрын

I like Bernie

@trishplanck9776

2 жыл бұрын

@@charmed857 ☺️

@sarahdara1982

2 жыл бұрын

We already have a Benny (Bessy’s baby). I like Bernie!

@trishplanck9776

2 жыл бұрын

@@sarahdara1982 ☺️👍

Giving birth doesn’t make you a mummy; animal or human.

I had hoped for a possible future for this little precious baby. I had hopes that nam would it show up and dock some sensitive to Nora. AM, I so admire your dedication and commitment. I can't imagine how difficult it was for you to be actually be there and and unable to do anything thing to save this poor little guy. Thank you for taking the time to to give us a brief window into their lives. We always wish for happy endings but sometimes life doesn't give that to us. RIP baby. You were a bright and shining star that was extinguished too early. The world has become just a little dimmer with your passing.

@debbiemcghee6617

2 жыл бұрын

It did appear that while he was laying on the ground , he was trying to lap up what little moisture he could find.

@snapyourfingerssnapyournec6503

Жыл бұрын

something could have been done,they could have caught and taken her. baby from her and sent it a place where they could properly cared for him and get him ready to go on his own.thats what should have happened and then fix her to where she can't have anymore babies

@gsmith6026

Жыл бұрын

@@snapyourfingerssnapyournec6503 If anyone tried to take that baby the entire troop, and maybe even Nora herself, would attack anyone trying to take that baby. She is high ranking and the troop will fight to protect the baby. There is no way to sedate the entire troop.

@snapyourfingerssnapyournec6503

Жыл бұрын

@@gsmith6026 when is the last time you see them attack someone, never.there are ways to get to any one of them.you do realize how many babies are stolen from their mothers to sell as pets and that's without killing the mothers. plus how you think when they do rescue a sick baby to help make it healthy and bring them back to its mother. so getting attacked is the last thing you can have happen when done right.come on

Thank you for the comment at the end of being done with Nora. It’s hard watching her inevitably kill her babies, even if she has postpartum and ultimately can’t help her mental state. No one likes to watch a newborn slowly being tortured and starved by its mother.

@ES-pc8kf

2 жыл бұрын

This is like watching the Cambodian channels that I never watch because I don’t want to see abused babies.

@stormy3446

Жыл бұрын

@@ES-pc8kf it’s nothing like the Cambodian channels. They are staged, this is not.

@sheetkarate6901

Жыл бұрын

Postpartum. Lol

@signoguns8501

Жыл бұрын

@@ES-pc8kf The Cambodians manipulate the monkeys into fighting and hurting the babies. It's not natural behavior. Just look at the state of the monkeys- they're all morbidly obese. It's animal abuse, pure and simple. They torment the monkey's day-in and day-out for views and ad revenue. It's basically torture porn. God knows why youtube hasn't banned them all for animal abuse and fraudulent charity fundraising. This channel is absolutely NOTHING like the Cambodian channels.

The ending was so sad I know I will probably get called out but I think the old girl needs help by getting spayed she can't or doesn't want to be tied down with babies just like some woman that have this problem bless it's little heart little baby you can run over the rainbow bridge now

@jeaniehorton5964

Жыл бұрын

No, you are right! She should not be allowed to kill any more adorable, innocent babies. I have never seen this situation, heart breaking and horrible!! 😡

If she is such a horrible mother, why cant they trap her and have her spayed. Feel sorry for those babies.

Left to try and suckle the pavement... 💔😭

Bee's baby is a cutie. Maybe Beau for his name. Thank you for the update, I was expecting the note at the end.

@ickiedeer-lamb7282

2 жыл бұрын

Hi dear friend. I forgot it is Sunday. Lol how are you

@tngrandma242

2 жыл бұрын

@@ickiedeer-lamb7282 Hello sweet lady! I am fine, my sister had a flare of impetigo but it is almost better and I am getting antsy as it gets closer to time for us to go to Tennessee. My granddaughter sent me a picture of her 3D/4D ultrasound and I could see the baby so clearly. There was no such thing back in the 70's when I had babies. Hope you are well and not locked down again. I have been hearing a lot about a new variant, of course there's always a new variant. My daughter tested positive a couple of weeks ago in spite of 3 shots, but she wasn't bad sick, mostly just fatigue so bad she'd sleep all day.

I dont understand Nora at all or the way monkeys give birth then mistreat them starve them but they won't give them up to another monkey if they don't want them,plz plz plz enquire about getting Nora sterilised she can't be allowed to have any more babies to torture, you can see how thin that poor baby was at the time,maybe its better off than been treat like that

Ok, so maybe someone could explain this, but how is Nora able to be a Matiarch when she not only neglects her babies but abuses & causes their death? As being seen as "Mother" of the troop I find that difficult to understand...

@faithhannah2280

Жыл бұрын

Me too she's a horrible mother 🤬🤬🤬

@jcgraham8808

Жыл бұрын

A very valid argument. Her own offspring looked disgusted with her treatment of this infant maybe having some awful flashbacks.

@anngifford9053

Жыл бұрын

Being the matriarch isn't a chosen position like alpha male is. The way I have always heard it is hierarchy in the troop, usually a daughter. And Arroz does state around 5 years ago there were no struggles with the birth that year. I really believe after watching this video there are really mental issues going on, postpartum. My opinion. This is the most vicious, deranged behavior I have seen so far. Was very hard to watch that little baby suffer so by the hands of it's mother. Even the way she ate her food was deranged behavior. As much as I think a female should not be fixed this is one monkey that should be for each year her behavior only continues to escalate. Wonder what the future holds for this troop?

@jcgraham8808

Жыл бұрын

The mental issue is real, I think. I’m bad with names of most of the adults, but Flöffi’s sister that swiped and starved her baby looked looney as hell. I just don’t think an intelligent species has mother-figures that harm a dependent as normal behavior. I chalk both of those up as monkeys suffering mental illness. The two that really upset me are Tina Teeny’s mom taking food from her pouches and Gypsy torcher-weening her babies weeks before other mothers, or just leaving the baby to fend for itself and going on an adventure. The difference lies in the will, or ability, to know they are doing harm. Does any of that seem plausible? I’m interested in feedback to get my thinking in line. Thanks for reading along.

@anngifford9053

Жыл бұрын

@@jcgraham8808 personally as far as Tina good believe a learned action as well as rank and amount of food. I believe she knows what she is doing but also with a learned trait would be hard for an animal to stop. She is also bullied around food so she goes hungry and therefore steals from baby. Watching different videos I have learned with these monkeys that even though mom's will share some with babies, their babies are not first when come to food like we see in other animals like dogs and cats that they will allow offspring to eat first. So with Tina being low her first thought is on her own living for if she dies then she can no longer bear children but if she lives she can bear another baby. So preservation is on self. As far as Gypsy goes I think hers is a combination of learned and self preservation and her own personality. She also is low rank, have seen her bullied around food. But with being feed more during COVID she was a somewhat better as a mother, more loving, snuggles and more milk bar time. Between habit and being bullied also rules what she does. She has learned she needs to go looking for food more then the higher rank monkeys so that means she goes on journeys. So I believe she is aware of what she is doing but does not have a choice. I believe after watchering her during COVID she appears to really want to be that dotting mom but she also needs to survive. As far as Nora goes she shows signs and looks of mental health. But watching Nora part 2 with the baby you can see it especially when she has the baby up around her neck. When she is struggling with him you can almost see the little devil and angel as depicted in older shows of right and wrong. It was like I can't stand this little thing but she was conflicted but this is my baby. She looked tormented. Don't really believe in her state she understands the harm she is doing. Whatever hormones are out of whack drives her insane. Female humans can have those issues also and if in a true mental state caused by hormones they are not aware of the harm they are doing. Some women see what is happening and know to seek help where others cannot see help is needed and either help is realized by those around her or after she has harmed the baby in some way. I am not totally convinced she is proposely driven to hurt her newborns. But I would like to see her no longer be able to bear children. She is getting worse with each pregnacy with this one being the most violent. I have not seen many of her later videos and have not seen how Nora is today so can't say how she has responded with hormones leveling out. So as far and Tina and Gyspy go I believe they are more a product of their rank and how they were pushed as low ranking but Nora I believe is biology. I could be wrong but these are my observations

BINDY would be a cute name if you haven’t found one yet💕 I’d love to see Nora with the infamous chest tattoo…..

She doesn’t need anymore children at all

Post partum depression or not, Nora needs fixing. Plus it could be she really doesn't want babies.

Nora shouldn't have babies !! She treats them awful !!

@venetabritt2771

2 жыл бұрын

Too bad she hasn't been nabbed in the sterilization cage... her babies have to be extra hardy to deal with and survive her "mothering" until she snaps out of her post partum crap.

@ML_SE

2 жыл бұрын

Do you say the same about human mothers who's suffering from postpartum syndrome? Nora can't help it. It's when her oxytocin interacts with the central dopamine and serotonin system that makes her to who she is after a birth. Especially the Oxytocin-serotonin interaction. It appears according to a research paper published this year that oxytocin-serotonin interactions appear to regulate nearly all aspects including postpartum nursing, aggression, anxiety like behaviour and stress coping strategy in female rhesus macaques after giving birth. 🤓🏴‍☠️🇸🇪🇺🇦🕊

@RejParent

2 жыл бұрын

@@ML_SE She's allowed her opinion also. 😀🤓🇨🇦🇷🇺

@ML_SE

2 жыл бұрын

Of course she is but maybe think first 😁. Everything we say and do have consequences. For example if a woman who had or has postpartum syndrome reads her comment what would they think. 🤓🏴‍☠️🇸🇪🇺🇦🕊

@venetabritt2771

2 жыл бұрын

@@ML_SE I have gone through it. With my last child. It is getting worse every year, the last poor baby didn't even last a week. Sorry but unless they can find a way to get her help (meds?) She is never going to get better about her babies. I hated to say it but that would solve her problem. My last two were just over 7 years apart. Maybe if she took a year or two off without babies it might help.

Love this series thank you AM! I am so sorry about Nora’s baby 😢😔

What about Banjo for Bee's baby?

damn. it’s just a shame there isn’t’ a ‘macaque protective services’ or some kind of birth control the mums can willingly utilize. It’s just a damn shame. You did your very best, AM. it just stinks. He seemed like such a sweet, laid back little booger. Nigel, I remember, was very active and strong- he marched towards those teats even being pulled off time and timoe again. Im’m glad he prevailed. This lil guy never even had a chance. His demeanor seemed so sweet, too. ☹️🙊💔

Might be best to get her fixed

I would like to offer Bungi for Bee's baby. Like the bungi cord so she will always have him with her. The authorities came and picked up Skullhead to halt his suffering. Maybe your videos to the same people will get Nora sterilized.

18:30 she looks mean look at those eyes

@sarahdara1982

2 жыл бұрын

You’re anthropomorphising her.

Nora deserves a hamper too. She can't help it. It's when her oxytocin interacts with the central dopamine and serotonin system that makes her to who she is after a birth. Especially the Oxytocin-serotonin interaction. It appears according to a research paper published this year that oxytocin-serotonin interactions appear to regulate nearly all aspects including postpartum nursing, aggression, anxiety like behaviour and stress coping strategy. I feel sorry for Nora. Actually Nora's troop should have a Gaby. Do you remember when she let Bubby nurse from her. Bossy did not look happy about it but didn't attack Gabby. 🤓🏴‍☠️🇸🇪🇺🇦🕊

@Filecabinet0170

2 жыл бұрын

Whatever the hormonal or other physiological cause of her behaviour, it’s the infant that suffers the repercussion of it. Nora can’t get help for her condition, so her tortured babies die after a short life of fear and confusion. Again and again.

@thuandao4243

Жыл бұрын

It was Lancy nursed bubby…..I guess whatever medical label excuse to justify Nora an experienced mom, deliberate cruelty by starvation rejection of 3 babies within 5 years . How many more ¿

@ML_SE

Жыл бұрын

@@thuandao4243 You're right I was wrong. It wasn't Gaby but it wasn't Lancy either. It was Lucy (Lizzy's daughter)😀. 🤓🏴‍☠️🇸🇪🇺🇦🕊

@thuandao4243

Жыл бұрын

@@ML_SE of course you are right…

I fully support Arroz’ theory that she suffers from postpartum depression. The surprising part is that she doesn’t abandon the infant as soon as she delivers it. Sadly that is a known macaque behavior. We saw it happen with newborn Charlotte and with a few other mothers who have “adopted” infants and nursed them. It’s not necessarily common behavior but it’s not unheard of. However, Nora’s behavior is deliberately cruel. She is not placing her survival over that of her offspring. We have seen that with Gypsy & Tina. She is torturing that poor little thing. She knows how to care for an infant. She waits until the baby has exhausted itself and isn’t protesting and then she grabs a tail or leg and drags or swings him around. Only a few days old and it’s finding out just how cruel the world can be.

@pitbull1026

2 жыл бұрын

Your statement justifies that there are abandoned baby monkeys that owners claim and turned into pets. I believe poaching goes on but macaques do abandon their babies for whatever reason.

@quietinspirationcreations3448

2 жыл бұрын

I concur, part of me is praying that she drops him and Bee has a go at raising both, at least he will be loved and given a chance at nourishment. Edit, I guess my prayers were a bit late for this little guy, RIP precious baby, let's hope Nora is sterilised before next year!

@pitbull1026

2 жыл бұрын

@@quietinspirationcreations3448 Ya know I was thinking something about that theory. But I got sidetracked, if the baby had died Nora was spotted without a baby. Not carrying her dead infant? Lack of motherly nurturing or care? What happened to her instincts? Yes, I know postpartum depression or whatever but she still was protective to a degree. She was careless in dragging them and the way she held them and also not holding a newborn high up in the tree. She is aware she is a mother again. No way of knowing without 24hr surveillance. Could it be possible she lost her baby somehow and another picked it up? Will we notice another female with her infant? Or a female with "twins"... Anything is possible. But I do think about after Charlotte was abandoned even other troops that came along didn't pick her up and but became defensive if a human got close. This time I don't think its dead...

@quietinspirationcreations3448

2 жыл бұрын

@@pitbull1026 We can certainly hope he's not gone, it's quite rare for a 'twin', whether real or an acquired extra baby, to survive, as they simply don't get enough to eat. With food being plentiful right now, and it being birthing season, he has the best possible odds since many females will be producing milk anyway. In an ideal world a mom that delivers a stillborn, would find a baby like Nora's, but we have seen another Monkey Hill set of twins thrive recently, so there's still hope. All that said, I don't think AM would have included the end bit, saying RIP if he knew baby may be surviving with a new mom, there's always the possibility the he was picked up by a different troop or one of us bipedal primates, we'll probably never know!!

@yvonneconte3040

2 жыл бұрын

@@quietinspirationcreations3448 true, let's hope Nora's baby became an adopted "twin "

I feel so bad for Nora's lil boy I hope she feeds him soon. Or they need to get her fixed or something. Ughh it breaks my heart to see the way she treats him.

Although I'm against sterilizing these mothers after watching how their lives are forever changed, I'm all for Nora losing that privilege. She should never have another baby! That sweet little boy was doomed from the very start. This video kinda reminded me of little Charlotte. How heartbreaking. I'm not watching another video of Nora and a new baby! Get Nora fixed!!

@alexmartin3143

Жыл бұрын

Charlotte was discarded at birth. She never shoulda been returned to the troop that discarded her once already. She was marked defective by her mother for whatever reason. Minor difference being Nora’s boy was healthy at birth. The defect lied with the mother. But both sad stories…

@katevangelder783

10 ай бұрын

I know she was abandoned! Nora doesn't want this baby anymore than Charlotte's mother wanted her.....for whatever reason. Regardless, poor Charlotte is gone and Nora's baby will suffer the same fate. Both cases are heartbreaking!

RIP little guy.

I feel so sad for the baby and no sorry for Nora she doesn’t deserve to be a matriarch 😡😡😡

That little baby is dead now … starved, beaten crushed and dragged by its own mother. It’s only known hunger and cruelty…. And Nora has tortured it’s little spirit out of any instinct for survival. Just heartbreaking.,. Nora must be tattooed. Her predisposition as an alpha leader overrides any instinct or inclination of mothering. If she were human she would likely never choose to be a mother but Nora has no control over her reproductive system and is bearing a new baby each year that she doesn’t want and will not care for. Her cruelty is just striking tho …. Letting her infant starve to death while it’s hanging onto her and begging for any nourishment or chance of life is truly sadistic. Why doesn’t she just leave the poor thing on the ground where it could be adopted or cared for by Nan or others in the group …..or at least allow it to die in peace. btw you can see how Nora’s abuse of her newborns traumatizes and upsets the whole group, many of whom want to rescue and care for it, but they’re all too hesitant to challenge Nora in any way. Too bad they can’t just assign a new alpha bc her leader style diminishes the well-being of the while group.

Beautiful Bee. Congratulations. What a sweet baby. BEAN ,lol cute name

Bea’s little one is adorable! That face is going to break hearts in the future…

Get her fixed and quickly.

I am suggesting "Benjamini" for Bees boy 😊 It's a pity that Bee didn't adopt Noras son - that could have been a chance for him and I think that Nora would have allowed it. Sometimes it's hard to understand a primate 🤔

@thuandao4243

2 жыл бұрын

Last year, Bee lost her last boy benji .

Call Benji's brother Bodhi. 🙂

What a miserable day, and she refuses to keep him warm.

Trying to catch up! Moving caused me to get behind a few weeks. This one is a heartbreaking one! I wish there was something that could be done for that sweet little boy!

This behavior that Nora is exhibiting reminds me of Amari and how she treated Lori a couple of years ago in Cambodia. Amari was also the matriarch of the troup. And she took her job so seriously that baby Lori would suffer neglect as a result. And just like Nora, Amari could be distracted with food and as a result, Lori would get the opportunity to nurse. Otherwise Lori was left to fend for herself. It really makes me wonder if some macaque matriarchs have an almost impossible feat of multitasking between the baby's needs and the troup's needs. I would like to welcome any ideas, thoughts, and/or comments about this. I am truly intrigued! 🐵🐒

@draperone371

2 жыл бұрын

I remember that. I stay with this channel only now

@annatodd7781

2 жыл бұрын

@@draperone371 Yes. I do too.

@thuandao4243

Жыл бұрын

I’m certain that popeye nursed Lori a lot, possibly saved her and other aunts helped watch over her. ….but really, Nora 3 dead babies is a pattern, every other babies survived, is not good sign to come. How many other monkeys with this pattern ¿

@deborahschell9176

Жыл бұрын

I think you're correct.

@nancytestani1470

Жыл бұрын

That is very interesting, I am going back to watch Lori again..

She would've been better off just abandoning the poor thing. At least he'd have a better chance at getting an adoptive, nursing, foster mom.

I'm surprised she is the matriarch.

@Filecabinet0170

2 жыл бұрын

The only girl of hers that’s survived her is Celessa. If she continues to neglect her babies to death and Celessa is caught in the cage, her line ends. I hope if Celessa ever becomes a mother she has an alternate method of parenting. Post-parting depression, hormones, whatever the cause, it’s not Nora that suffers, it’s the babies that end up living short, tortured lives. I pray it’s not genetic (though Norma and Nan don’t have that disposition, nor do any of Norma’s daughters, so there’s hope for Celessa).

I think Nora's baby would have a better chance if she dropped him and Bee attempted to raise both babies as 'twins'! Wishful thinking on my part though.

@thuandao4243

Жыл бұрын

Charlotte case, I hoped a mom took her but no…….most moms can’t risk when they probably don’t have extra milk supply for 2. Nora too possessive to walk away. So sad to watch another newborn starving to death, or others too weak hanging on , died by falling down.

she is the type they should be catching and making sure she can't have anymore babies, not the ones who haven't had one or are good moms

The fact that Nan is finally finished with the whole situation is just scary and sad in itself!! Something needs to be done with Nora before she gets pregnant again just to kill it in a matter of days. If she was human she would get the death penalty. That poor innocent, adorable boy. Just unspeakable and beyond understanding. RIP little one ❤️

@cordulastork8642

7 ай бұрын

Yes, but isn't that a little bit ambivalent? Nature is cruel, indeed, and we are so bewildered because we think and know primates to be very intelligent. The more intelligence, the less instinct, at the other side. So we can believe in Nora's purposeful cruelty as well as in an insanity or abnormal behaviour. But so far: human primates do abort children, if they want no more. I definitely do not want to make the abortion discourse here, but we don't know, whether an embryo feels hurt when being scratched out from his/her mother's uterus. And there is definitely no death penalty for that. So this discussion of a non human primate is a little bit hypocritical. But to leave that neuralgic point of abortion (I'm neither American nor a fundamentalist christian) and to turn to the second point: Human primates have effective methods of contraception if they want to avoid further offsprings. Monkeys don't have if not by human intervention. So, if they don't want to care for more offsprings, be it because overwhelmed by her duties as alpha or by common exhaustion in higher age or by having given birth to a hybrid they don't want (also racism seems to be not only in human primates!) they neglect or kill it. Maybe other mechanisms take place, like @shannonspage9360 describes. We had a contrary case in the Cambodian troop, where a Grandma nursed her grandchild after the mother died.

this is a tough pill to swallow for anyone. Arroz is so sensitive , he suffers I imagine .... Have no idea how to help end they sterilized the best moms..thanks..for showing Arroz . It broke my heard and others♥

That baby, named Nial, is miraculously alive and well today. It ain't over til it's over!

RIP baby. I didn't think he would make it :-( Hopefully, Nora ends up being sterilised. I don't know why Nan or other high ranking monkeys don't intervene. I remember Nan smacking her on the head when she was rejecting Nigel.

At about 18:45 when Annika was there, maybe to 'help' it looked like Nora took an aggressive stance of warning her off. Nora did that gaping jaw/teeth bearing and looking towards Annika to tell her to stay away.

@yvonneconte3040

2 жыл бұрын

I saw it

So she has done away with baby #3!

Poor little baby. As much as i hate sterilization. It needs to happen to Nora. Bee's baby is a lil cutie. What about Bentley, bejul , behdad(excellent gift- of good birth)

IN MY VIEW I kept watching this video hoping Nora would change toward her baby. It was hard to watch how cruel she was to him . I am torn between wishing he would have survived and almost relieved her baby doesn’t have to suffer anymore.

Pour little baby 😒 I wish authorities could sterilize the only monkey I have seen that needs to be sterilized. At least his suffering is over now. That must have been hard for you to film AM! RIP little one

To painful to watch 😭😭😭💔💔💔💔 how dare she treat her baby like that she's a total monster 🤬🤬🤬

All the mothers, they never get a break. Year after year, they have babies. I think that this is why at one point, they don't care anymore.

Look how red the babies head is from her biting and dropping. It just makes your heart hurt. What can you do, you know?? Maybe if Nora’s grumpy ass eats, she’ll feed the baby.

Heartbreaking to see the little dude lying on the rain-soaked pavement, trying to lick some moisture. 😢

Poor little sweet boy 😭 that's so sad! Maybe the feeders could support Nora with a Oxytocin-stimulating nourishment🤔 don't know if that exists... Nora probably deserves the goodies more than anybody else, because she is in an extraordinally situation! Her body doesn't produce the hormons a good mother-child-relationship needs in the beginning!

@yvonneconte3040

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Agree. I don't agree with all the negative comments about Nora. This is totally out of her control. Definitely chemical imbalance.

I really think she doesn’t want to be a mom 😢

Yeah..and she turns away from all of you…

@Arroz Marisco Thank you AM. Hope you are well & doing good Sir. Enjoy your day.

I think you should name Bee's son Bennett or Beckett.

Its like she wants to take care if it - just not let it near her nipples. I can't imagine what could be going on with Nora. I wonder what Nora's mother was like. They say that its a good indication of how a monkey will be a mother. Was she a good mom or an abusive mom? Or was it just enough for nora herself to survive till she could forage as a baby. Except Vince was far too well cared for and fed. Maybe she just didn't want THAT experience again. I mean, he got so fat it was like she had no clue how to say no at first and then it was just all "no" to the next baby at first till instinct kicked in. Maybe there was a hormone imbalance that had her just so no to the rest of the babies. So sad. I know Nan would have fed those babies but Nora would just not let go. I think Nan knows that Nora will pull that baby so hard she'll kill it if Nan grabs for it. Poor baby, poor Nan. Crazy poor Nora.

That rain can make anybody nasty, cold weather no fun..

Hello my dearest friends. I hope & pray that you all are well & doing great. We are all so very blessed to have each other & even more blessed to have AM, JW & MC in our lives . Each one of them brings us together, each one share with us 3 sides of Monkey Hill & in order for us to see and enjoy our monkeys they all work so hard to put together a video & they take time out of their busy lives to do so. That being said ... I love them & love each one of you. Group hugs

@ms.martiegallego8834

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, Rosie!! Thank You for Your kind words !! Sending You Love and Health from Stockton California !!

@rosiedepetro8674

2 жыл бұрын

@@ms.martiegallego8834 thank you hun

@vickirichardson2705

2 жыл бұрын

Hugs back 🤗

@venetabritt2771

2 жыл бұрын

Hugs and monkey mischief back at you.

@debvit2353

2 жыл бұрын

🤗🤗🤗

Another Nora baby that won’t be around in about 2 days. Nora will climb a tall tree and the baby will be too weak to hang on and will fall to the ground.

I suggest Bruno for a name! 😀

If she detests the baby so much just walk away from it maybe another mother will pick it up. Can only hope.

It seems like Nora takes care of mellow, uncomplaining babies, and disposes of fussy ones.

Wow A.M., that Nora needs help that nobody can give to her. When u say your done with Nora , I hope it means u want waste time filming her anymore, because I'll watch what ever u put out , but I don't want to watch her ever again. Somebody else said Bentley, I also like that name. Have a great week Am.M.

I’m disgusted by watching this video. I can’t imagine how hard it must have been for Mr.AM to film. Poor innocent babies are better off dead than to be raised by a monster like Nora.

Aww my heart aches for such a baby, I hope he’ll be alright.

I think Benny is a sweet name for Bee’s beautiful boy. Nora has too many issues and I wish to say nothing more because she doesn’t deserve the time

@sarahdara1982

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone is forgetting we already have a Benny lol

You are not powerless. You can speak to the authorities about spaying Nora. The baby is powerless. Why can’t you step up to the plate and ask for a spay job?

This is so painful to watch. Poor little thing. I hope Nora skips a year, maybe thst will help. I suggest for Bee's baby if in fact a boy....Brody, Bronte, Basil...I wish them all well 💕

Am very late I know but duties call but on my off time this is my favorite past time thank you 😊 🙏 AM as always for the wonderful stories ❤ and updates on on our favorite monkeys from Monkey Hill. It was so very sad to see that Nora seem to be getting worse it's most definitely time for her to maybe 😔 to be fixed and I'm not a big fan of that but in these cases it's most definitely needed it because those babies are living and breathing things as well may he RIP 🙏 and for Bee her baby boy is so adorable and she's such a wonderful 🐒 monkey Mama awww.....Thanks again AM she deserved that sweet potato I'm glad she enjoyed it and that baby looking out towards the camera without knowing was the most adorable thing🥰😍🤩 Everyone stay safe and be blessed 😘

Newborns are so cute. Little white wrinkly face, puffy eyes, all wobbly and squeaky lol. I'd love to see these monkeys in real life.

I wish they would fix Nora so she can't have any more baby's, it's sad they will fix others that would have been Excellent mothers but year after year you put the spot light on this one that is horrible to her baby's

Well, here we go again. If Nora decides not to nurse this one, it will die in a few days just like the others.

This is off topic but I just found out yesterday that Skull Head died on May 14, 2022. That is a terrible loss!

@yvonneconte3040

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, sorry you just found out. Watch a tribute done by Monkey Inc

If she’s a queen she can do whatever she wants with the bb.

Hello AM, how are you.? Benny or Billy I think would be a good name for benji’s baby brother. So so sad another one of Nora’s babies gone and without a name. It’s clear she is done with raising babies , to bad she can’t be singled out and fixed somehow relieving her of that situation she seems to see as a burden. RIP little boy of Nora’s. Thank you AM, love your passion you have for these monkeys and their babies. BLESS YOUR HEART ♥️

@sarahdara1982

2 жыл бұрын

Bessy’s little boy is already named Benny

@bratt6902

2 жыл бұрын

@@sarahdara1982 I knew there was a reason I thought of Billy too, I’ve been watching these monkeys for not quite a year yet, but I’ve been watching all past videos or trying so I can catch up, keeping up with all is not an easy task. Thank you I appreciate that.

So sad to watch, all her babies were such Cuties! Breaks my heart how that little cute Peanut was just dumped on the street in the cold rain☔! This little one has no idea why mom didn't love him! 😔😒😢

We should call him bean or beanie 😊 he is so cute!

@lilmatchgirl5221

2 жыл бұрын

Bean is a great name.

@yvonneconte3040

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, BEAN, luv it

Can the baby catch a cold? That rain is bucketing down. At least Gipsey used to give her baby to Ruby Nora just keeps it and drags starves it and it has a very high chance of not living. O😔💕

@graciestar8064

Жыл бұрын

Ben.

I said it before. Its like she doesn't know what to do with her baby.

How many babies has Nora had? How many did she outright kill or "just let die"?

@lakeisham041

Жыл бұрын

She had 7; Vincent, Cessa- missing, Nick, Celessa, No name baby boy- missing, Nigel, and No name last baby.

Trying to get the water from the road..

All we can do is pray for Nora and the little one. Maybe she should get the tattoo 😞

awwww the people who neuter them should do research on them and pick the females that act like Nora...This is so hard to look at.

Rest In Peace little one sorry you suffered your short little life here on earth now your in monkey heaven 🌈

R.I.P. LITTLE ONE...I didn't think he would last too long. He was soaked in the rain that he could've caught a chill and without nutrition was unable to fight it off. Or he just got tired of fighting to nurse, he just gave up. 😢....ANYWAYS BACK to a happier note, let's call Bee's baby Beau

I guess the hamper thing works if you’re referring to it as a thing to restrain or stop their hunger but It still sounds really weird and goofy

I think the only thing that makes Nora quit abusing her babies is when someone gives her food, she has to move the baby down from under her chin otherwise she can’t open her mouth properly or chew the food that she shovels in there. I wish someone would re-home her baby before she kills it by neglect and, get Nora ‘fixed’ as well. She can’t cope with babies any more.

He's not gonna make it. Sadly last year Nan would give her a wack if she didn't take care of the baby.