*UPDATE- I’ve had multiple people including very established photographers reach out to me and say they have the same issue with their Sony 70-200 2.8| I want to make something very clear- I’ve owned the Sony 70-200 GM for 2 years and have used it for portraits, weddings and commercial jobs. It’s worked great for me but for some weird reason, mine has been back focusing on occasion. This doesn’t mean they all do it but mine is and it has never been dropped. Also, this doesn’t mean that their isn’t a bad batch of Tamron lenses out there either. I already see comments of GM owners getting defensive so this is for you

@RealRaynedance

4 жыл бұрын

Don't you know you're not allowed to give rightful criticism on the Internet and give your personal experience?

@anthonyc1883

4 жыл бұрын

@@RealRaynedance lol Because if you do, you're immediately labeled a "hater." So obviously, Manny's a hater of the 70-200 GM! lol

@omaralexander7406

4 жыл бұрын

Manny Ortiz Do you think firmware updates have been affecting performance of certain lenses negatively? I feel like I’ve experienced the same with certain lenses. A certain lens has worked perfect for a longtime and out of nowhere it back focuses. Idk just a thought.

@anthonyc1883

4 жыл бұрын

@@omaralexander7406 Uh-oh, I had better check mine. Just had an update done at an in-store event with a Sony rep (hadn't even realized there was a new one. Thought I was already up to date). Haven't used my 70-200 yet.

@joshmilteer4234

4 жыл бұрын

I have a Sony 70-200 f2.8 and I have back focusing issues all the time photographing basketball. There's also an issue where I can only zoom out to 195mm... Not 200. I contacted Sony and they are willing to fix it but not during the lockdown.

"Sony has the advantage in affordable lens selection for Full Frame" Boy who thought anyone would EVER say that? We've come a long way in a few years

@49Ibanez

4 жыл бұрын

And affordable bodies, there's some variation of the A7 available at almost every price point from like $500 used to $5000

@V4D2

4 жыл бұрын

it was just a matter of time.. It was sort of common knowledge that both Tamron and Sigma would jump on the Sony Alpha wagon as best as they could. Having said this..hehe.. i'm still with you on this... hehe Rewind the clock a couple of years and one would be dissing Sony for this exact reason. :P

@jozosaravanja1626

4 жыл бұрын

@Gap some, some are just amazing for price. Of course budget depends from person to person. But some of their lenses are great value for money.

@kevinharding1181

4 жыл бұрын

@Gap No it doesn't. Go to Brian Smith's website and check out the full list of NATIVE mount lenses. 185 at last count (inc. Cine) and covering every budget. How many do you need ?

And this is exactly why you left the Sony Ambassador Program. Respect to you Manny 👊🏽

@ajalbetjr

4 жыл бұрын

Ah-h-h GREAT POINT Manny Sandhu, I had completely overlooked that!!

I literally just wait until Manny Ortiz, Jerod Polin, and Gerald Undone make a review and then i can easily make or break my purchase.

@RockyMaiviaMiami

4 жыл бұрын

Facts

@artmaltman

4 жыл бұрын

Also Dustin Abbott 😊

@black-christmusikent2893

4 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@allend6137

4 жыл бұрын

Don’t forget about Christopher Frost...

@_cjmccullough

4 жыл бұрын

Adam D i used to watch him often but he only reviewed canon and Sony he needs to buy some other cameras to do a real test. I do like his reviews but he’s a bit biased.

One other big advantage of the Tamron: It's black! Much less conspicuous. Speaking personally - I will never buy a white 'hey look at me and my big white lens'.

@TheVisualVanguard

4 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment! When I was shooting canon I wound up buying a tamron 70-200 over the canon equivalent for this very reason!!

@VLorenzoStone

4 жыл бұрын

But it looks like a gun.

@CO8848_2

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Never gonna work as a parent with those ridiculous white lenses.

@TheJurciks

4 жыл бұрын

Little bit ridiculous to say the least. There isn't much options for big zooms, therefore you buy what you can. Personally I'm considering to buy Sony 70-200 F4 not because it's white and I want to show off but because it's a very good native lense.

@steveteare3865

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheJurciks If it's good for you - that's great! I said "speaking personally" because I was expressing my personal choice - and I didn't mean to imply that anyone that chooses it wants to show off, more that, if I'm carrying expensive gear in an unfamiliar neighbourhood, I prefer to be as inconspicuous as possible.

Thank you for giving us good Content during this time Manny ! We appreciate you!

Waiting for the Tamron 175-575mm now

@jeshurunroshan

4 жыл бұрын

Same lol

@johansmolinski

4 жыл бұрын

Why not the 0-infinity f/0 macro pancake?

Production transitions and sound effects on point!!

Tamron completed the "trinity" now. For so much less money. Amazing.

@fwfeo

4 жыл бұрын

It would've made switching to Sony the easiest decision if these came out three years ago! If I mainly shot wedding and events, I'd buy 17-28/2.8 & 70-180/2.8 in heart beat, but I shoot real estate, so 28-75/2.8 is enough f/2.8 for me!

Great video! Thank you for that! Love your content, actually spent all the night watching your videos

Impressed!So excited with your video and tips👌

I’ve been waiting for this review! Thank you.

Frankly I'm stunned; it looks like Tamron learned some lessons from their 28-75 ( which is pretty nice but the Sigma's FE 24-70, just WOW), and has stepped up a level... I now want to rent this and try it - Great Job as Always Manny!!

The great thing about Tamron trinity is that all 3 lenses have the same 67 mm thread size!

@RigelFilms

4 жыл бұрын

big facts! I have the 28-75 and 17-28. About to buy this 70-180 for my 2nd camera for wedding lol

Got both the 17-28 and 28-75 and love them. Been craving a 70-200 forever and was waiting on this lens forever. So I knew your video was coming soon! Currently waiting on mine to ship! 👌🏾

I've been waiting for this review! Wasn't going to buy it until you put the stamp of approval on it...Thanks!

@Schroeder3000

4 жыл бұрын

i learned that in a sales training some years ago. if you buy something new, you are only happy with your purchase if someone approves you! and that sounds right :D

The back focusing issue is real. I was shooting an event and had this problem. Making me change to my 24-70mm which wasn’t ideal. I’m planing to make a video this week perhaps as I thought I was the only one with this issue. Keep it up Manny.

Hey Manny, great vid as usual. Quick question for you: any spherical aberration on the Tamron when shooting bright whites in high contrast conditions?

Looks way good. It's crazy what Tamron is putting out for the price

Your reviews are so clear and real. Think I will go buy this one today !! Cheers man

Thanks for the review!!! Was waiting for this!!! Really I am confused which one to buy!!!

I like your work on KZread and IG keep on doing your thing you’re killing it.

Thanks for the review! I am definitely going with the Tamron now

already pre ordered but nice to see a straight comparison between the two

GREAT VIDEO MAN! CONGRATS

Excellent review my friend. I'm a huge fan of yours. Thank you very much.

Love your honest reviews man.

Great lens for the price. I got it Manny my friend! Much thanks for the hands on review. Please take care and stay safe.

Great informative video as always. Been waiting and waiting for them to finally release this lens. I was curious how is the focus against backlit background, like sunset behind a model with a strobe? My Tamron 28-75 for sure isn't as fast or accurate as the Sony 24-70 in bright backlit situations. Also maybe compare it with a better copy or a 24-70 Sony if you have access to one. Thanks!

Thanks for the review Manny! I have a question. Would you sell the GM and get the Tamron? Especially considering size and weight difference.. thanks!

First off thank you ! Leaving the lens out.... classic. Ty sir !

another great video! Thinking of getting the Tamron trinity set.

Awesome review Manny. Gotta say I have been wanting a 70-200 for years now but this has completely changed the game. For that price, I expect the Tamron to sell like hot cakes!

It could be that you're getting back focus on the gm 70-200mm because the focus ring is active even in af modes, some people have thought they had a focus problem when in fact they were accidentally moving the linear focus ring while shooting

Bruhhh you left the lens outside in the rain! Luckily it's weather sealed! Love your dog just waiting for you guys haha And your wife, again thank her please for helping you out. Tamron is indeed doing their thing man. Going to get this lens too. I really hope they release some fast affordable primes too.

great review as always!

Good review bro!! 👏🏽👏🏽

what a sensational video! thanks for putting two very good lenses side by side, I took a lot of doubts. Thanks and keep up your videos, they are amazing! for more videos like this! From Brazil

Was waiting for this !

So Manny, how fast will Sigma, Tamron, and the rest will be spitting out lenses for Canon RF mount once the R5 comes out?

Hi, just a quick question, I just changed from A mount to A7IV E mount, I have an adapter for my old Tamron 70 - 200 2.8 A mount lens. I am looking into buying a new E mount lens. Is this lens still as good as 3 years ago? Or is there a better one from for example Sigma now? I will be mainly using it for photography, portret, weddings etc. Thanks for this video, helped a lot and answered most of my questions...

Pretty sure everyone in here is glad your off that ambassador program. 🙌🏼👏🏼 I cant wait for you to get the R5 and R6 to work. Announcement on Monday!

great video Manny 👊🏻😎

Well Manny, first you caused me to switch from Canon to Sony and now you just saved me a bunch of money on my next lens purchase. Thanks and please keep up the great work!

Finally a comparison I'm looking forward to it coming on sale in Denmark

How'd you get the eye af to work with the lens?? On my sony a7sii it says it's not compatible 😭😭

So, would you say this lens is a good choice for a versatile portrait/event lens? Strongly considering this lens over a prime portrait lens, like the 85mm (full disclosure, I am just a hobbyist, breaking in to portraits). Your reviews are awesome - thank you Manny!

How to fix the focusing issue on the GM, I feel my GM is not focusing as sharp as I was expecting it to... :(

Hi manny, question.. is there a tad shutter lag when pressing the shutter button to the camera actually taking the picture? I know the 28-75mm lens has like a split second lag once you press the shutter button . Unlike the Sony native lenses, when you press the shutter button it snaps instantly.

At 180mm f/2.8 will the background separation be as good as a sigma 135mm f/1.8? I have a 85mm f/1.4 but I'm planning to buy a Sigma 135mm f/1.8 in the next month or so but this 70 - 180mm f/2.8 for around the same price is tempting for the 100 - 180mm range.

This is the lens I will buy as soon as this pandemic thing finishes ! Excellent video.Indeed Tamron has been doing such a fantastic job. I bought the 28-75 and I love this lens.

very helpful video thank you manny!

Is there any down side to using this lens with a APSC? I know about the drop factor. So basically I would get a high zoom range coreect? I’m thinking about getting this one for my church for the 2.8. It’s going to see if m a tripod the whole time. I almost thought about the tamron 18-300. But it’s 3.5. And probably high aperture at high focal length.

Really nice comparison. I am more into long zoom lenses and hope that Tamron will do a version of their APS-C 16-300 mm for FF with great sharpness on both ends.

Would the sony 1.4x teleconverter fit into the Tamron? Lens diagram on the internet shows there is some clearance between the rear element and the lens mount, but it's hard to tell if it is enough to accommodate the teleconverter...

FINALLY. Although I have the 70-180 tamron on preorder as of this morning lol

Nice work, thank you Manny.

Hey Manny, this video made me think of 100-400mm lenses. Which 100-400mm lens for Canon EOS R do you recommend? I have the EF-RF adapter, and I do have a 70-300mm. I'm looking for more zoom for surfing photos.

Love the shoot..it maybe sometime before this lens come out .. I have an 85mm 1,8 but this may suit better

Hi, what about shutter lag? In AF mode tamron 28-75 have this issue in comparison with native Sony lenses.

Tamron 70-180 mm will definitely be my next purchase! Thanks for this

Please suggest me a camera between sony a6400 & a6500 . I am really confused. { For portrait and cinematic video }

Just looking at your photos really encourages me to blow my bank acc but then I realize it’s way to much. Thanks for the good detailed video! Keep troopin

First of all amazing content, enjoy your work...i had to sub. i recently got the a7iii, first camera ever btw, and wondering if you would recommend one lens that is best for the buck. Thank you for sharing your work and thoughts

Do you know how the Tamron 70-180mm does with a 2x teleconverter?

Very good review Manny, I've been thinking of getting the 70-200 G master, now I think I'll settle for the Tamron and add a bit to the rest and get the Sony 24mm f1.4 G

if possible please do a video if this lens can be used with techart sony e mount to nikon z mount adaptor on Nikon Z6...

Very helpful information and opinion :-) Thank you so much!👍👍

great review thank you , you lit me take my choice will buy the tamron lens for my a7iii

I own the Sony 70-200 f/2.8 as well as Tamron’s other 2 Sony lenses. Very impressed with the quality and performance of Tamron’s offerings. I like that the Sony lens has IS in the lens itself which helps a ton because the Sony lens is just so heavy! I prefer having IS in the lens in addition to inside the body.

Would you say its more reliable (to not get soft focus) to get an adapted canon 70-200 or the sony one?

Thanks for this review!

Nice review Manny, Sony has been nice enough to share with Tamron some of their proprietary info instead of having Tammy reverse engineer it, add newer technology since the sony 70-200 2.8; plus cutting off 20 mm allowed for a smaller form factor. This will be a good to great lens for when you don't want to heave a howitzer around yet have a form and weight factor similar to a 70-200 f/4 . The black color is more discreet. Great 'in action' comparitives on your part , lets see how they match up to what is found on the "bench" tests. My copy is already on order.

Interesting. Anyone know if Sigma plans on coming out with a dedicated Sigma Sport 70-200 for Sony mirrorless?

I'm sold...can't wait till they're in stock!

What is this image stabilization for exactly? Would this impact the performance of photo and/or video? Is it needed?

My question as an APSC shooter is, Tamron 70-180 F2.8 or Sony 70-350 F4.5-6.3? Faster is always better sure, but if you're swapping into a telephoto, shouldn't it have some significant reach? I'm sure there are use cases where either lens make a lot of sense.

Manny could you advise whether the Tamron lens here can work with the Sony teleconverter 1.4x?

great results, have not been motivated to invest in glass for a while till now

Tamron f/2.8 trinity only costs $2900, slightly more than RF 70-200L and less than the price of RF 28-70 f/2.

@Nunez87

4 жыл бұрын

tbh though, IMAGINE if they did a 28-70 f2, that ekstra stop on a zoom like that.

@Schroeder3000

4 жыл бұрын

lets wait for the Tamron 70-130 F2.0 www.photografix-magazin.de/tamron-70-130mm-f-2-0-200-400mm-f-4-0/

@wesleychapman9001

4 жыл бұрын

Most underrated comment of them all. Great insight.

That Tamron is looking nice. Looks like they did the right amount of compromise. Nice video!

Great review - I highly enjoyed it. Last fall, I was considering the Sony 70-200 but in the end bought the 100-400 GM which I am very happy with. Now I'm having my eyes on the Tamron. Great value for money and pretty lightweight...

@sadenb

4 жыл бұрын

100-400 is a great lens .

I may have missed it in the video but, what Sony camera body did you use? Thanks.

thanks for the video. got a quick question and i know your busy and ive asked questions before but never got a response but hopefully you will respond to this one. how do you combat the over sized eyelash focus problem with eye af? sony has a problem seeing a eye with the eylashes.. help....

hey Manny, i was wondering how & what do you use to record what's on your camera screen ?

the much needed review... for me Sony 70-200 f2.8 is the best.. thnq so much manny u'r the best... also plz review the tamron 1728 f2.8 vs sony 20mm f1.8 ... big FAN from NEPAL....

oh yes we need this review from you

if you compare sharpness please tell us the resolution of the sensor. small differences wich are noticable with a high resolution sensor e.g. the a7rIV maybe irrelevant for the a7III. thanks for the review

Manny , if you start all over again which one will you choose and why?

What are the autofocus settings you recommend for action/sports on the Sony a7iii?

Can you shoot 10 fps with the tamron on a Sony A7 iii? On the A9 you need to run sony lenses to shoot at 20fps right?

Hi ... thank you for that great Video ... I'm more into Aviation Photography, Sport Photography , Bird Photography and Astrophotography / Low Light Architecture Photography mainly , and from time to time a bit of Real Estate and Widlife Photography so saying that which of those 2 Lenses would you recommend for my Sony A9 and A7S ? Please

About the issue of soft focus with 70-200GM, have you tried microfocus adjustment in the camera body? I had the same problem with my old Minolta 80-200 and this adjustment solved it.

Digging that Tamron, thanks for sharing!Digging the shelves with cameras and gear on the wall in your talking head scenes, got a link?

Isn't there a way to calibrate the focus if you're having trouble? I've never done it myself but know it exists - that may solve the back-focusing with the Sony lens.

Great video! I own the trifecta! Love your videos Manny, I truly appreciate them!

beginner photograph here. what settings are you using for focus? how can you focus so good and so fast?

Do you think there will be a teleconverter for Sony/Tamron?

Great review Manny! Love the reviews. Was the testing done with the A7iii? Thank you!

Would this be a good lens to get for my Sony a6400 (if I might eventually switch over to FF) But with my current camera and the Tamron 70-180 not being stabilized, would it be a bad match with my a6400? Trying to decide between Tamron 70-180 or Sony 70-350.

@ralphbejar3857

3 жыл бұрын

yes indeed!