The New Suzuki GSX-8S is LAME

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  • @c0dy1287
    @c0dy1287 Жыл бұрын

    Haha who else is waiting for the "I was wrong I love this bike video!" They probably already had it on the schedule as they were making this video lol

  • @sleeper.simulant7327

    @sleeper.simulant7327

    Жыл бұрын

    I think he’ll probably like how it rides, he’s just sick of the P twin bikes that coming out in spades. The SV was unique with its V twin, the new one is just generic. That being said I’d definitely ride it lol

  • @c0dy1287

    @c0dy1287

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sleeper.simulant7327 Thing is I grew up around motorcycled and old timers, and it doesn't seem like too long ago the beloved sv650 was just a soulless Japanese knock off of the Ducati monster, the poor man's monster. And he mentions UJMs which is funny because now there are plenty of people that remember those bikes fondly, but they were just another standard coming out back in the day. Growing up around it though personally I feel it's about what you do with the bikes that make them interesting. I'd be stoked to hear someone tell me about how they went halfway across the country on a z400 versus some guy talk about how much character their garage queen bike they ride 5 times a year has. 🏍️

  • @sleeper.simulant7327

    @sleeper.simulant7327

    Жыл бұрын

    @@c0dy1287 I’ve never heard the SV called soulless lol, it actually outperformed the monster when it dropped, for a fraction of the price to, and still had tons of character. Of course Ducati couldn’t have that, and not long after the SV dropped the monster vastly outperformed the Suzuki. This new bike I’m sure will be just fine, handle decent, have a decent power band, and sound good with an exhaust. I also don’t mind the looks for a more transformer styled bike, I think it looks a little cleaner then any of the MT bikes. Yamaha makes up for that with the XSR bikes though…

  • @c0dy1287

    @c0dy1287

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sleeper.simulant7327 Could have been some euro snobbery going on. I was excited back when the mt07 was first coming out and I still got magazines, I was super stoked but sitting on one just didn't feel right for me, hoping the Suzuki will give me what I want and handle better too. I have 4 cyl 600 but my first bike was an 80s Honda twin and man I did more on that bike than anything else since.

  • @sleeper.simulant7327

    @sleeper.simulant7327

    Жыл бұрын

    @@c0dy1287 mine was a 1989 VFR750F, then a UJM 1977 Honda CB550K, and then after a 10 year hiatus I bought a 2022 Benelli Leoncino Trail 500 to get back into riding. Trading it next spring for something bigger and faster

  • @Rocco-tb9ih
    @Rocco-tb9ih Жыл бұрын

    Personally, I don't care about the manufacturer politics. All I know is, this bike looks epic, the engine size is perfect for me and it comes with all the features I could ever want for my second bike

  • @disturb3d46

    @disturb3d46

    Жыл бұрын

    What is your main bike?

  • @leeengelsman1855

    @leeengelsman1855

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes I think the handling would be great and due to the electronics very civilized no nasties.

  • @brunodebrandt1037

    @brunodebrandt1037

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • @bonse1

    @bonse1

    11 ай бұрын

    This is the exact reason they're making it. It's absolutely bob-on for "my first proper bike".

  • @saulgutierrez1705

    @saulgutierrez1705

    9 ай бұрын

    Based comment

  • @bbevis2357
    @bbevis2357 Жыл бұрын

    I actually think the new GSX 8S makes a lot of sense as an 'MT07 killer.' If Suzuki can keep it new-rider friendly enough but still have the fun-factor of the MT07 that experienced riders enjoy, I think it will be very successful. The new Vstrom 800 on the other hand is somewhat of a disappointment.

  • @myfren90

    @myfren90

    Жыл бұрын

    20kg heavier than Mt 07

  • @conViction0000

    @conViction0000

    Жыл бұрын

    There is Trident 660...

  • @danmacmillan88

    @danmacmillan88

    Жыл бұрын

    it has so much potential, but the damn thing is so heavy which sucks

  • @Saint_Arod

    @Saint_Arod

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jimnagel5611WHY ARE YOU YELLING AHHHH

  • @stimpyman007

    @stimpyman007

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jimnagel5611 it’s also has more torq than the mt07 , I’m really into this Suzuki . I had a mt09 for 8 years and I want to downsize for more fun on the public road . And I think this will be the bike

  • @kramerguitars204
    @kramerguitars204 Жыл бұрын

    I see your point, it is kinda boring to see all the companies just crank out p-twins. But it’s also exactly what we asked for. It’s a brand new frame with a brand new 270 crank twin. On paper that combo isn’t that special, but I do have high hopes for this bike

  • @Jonathan-L

    @Jonathan-L

    Жыл бұрын

    I reckon Yoshimura will offer a cam for this bike for those who want more power.

  • @N3ilCrox
    @N3ilCrox Жыл бұрын

    At least Suzuki finally did something for once in my opinion but I oddly wanna see this 8S becoming an 8R a fully faired version of this motorcycle

  • @BagpipekilR

    @BagpipekilR

    Жыл бұрын

    I was just thinking that very thing. I sure hope they do!

  • @johncleland2332

    @johncleland2332

    9 ай бұрын

    The 8R is coming for 2024

  • @captainplanet43
    @captainplanet43 Жыл бұрын

    I think it's a step in the right direction. Especially if they get the weight down thanks to the p twin compared to the v-twin while keeping the v-twin sound thanks to the 270 crank.

  • @exothermal.sprocket

    @exothermal.sprocket

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep. One less head, two less cams, one less chain tensioner system, much less complex cooling, throttle linkage, exhaust plumbing. Easier casings to cast. Less crotch heat. Easier front-to-back chassis packaging. And the crankpin timing makes the identical power pulses as an L-twin.

  • @gsxraiders
    @gsxraiders Жыл бұрын

    You don't know what you're talking about. P-Twin makes it a lot easier to do your own maintenance, such as spark plugs and valve timing. I've been looking forward to something larger than an MT07. Good timing from Suzuki to bring on a higher grunt and lower rev engine, with 180 rear, radial calipers, and sporty swingarm adjusters. Something that I would not be guilty about racking up a ton of backroad miles while popping dank wheelies. The TFT dash and QS are a plus. This will allow me to reserve the life on my GSXR.

  • @exothermal.sprocket

    @exothermal.sprocket

    Жыл бұрын

    You get this. Yammie doesn't. I think this bike is a good step up in suspension, brakes, capability, and probably one of the best 270° parallel twin engines so far based on what I know about the balance shafts and all the other numbers. It's probably going to sound burly and snarly with a pipe, it's probably going to bolt out of corners like no MT-07 or SV does. It's probably going to feel like a Duke 790 with much less vibration. It's got radial brakes, USD forks, up/down QS, big TFT, larger physical dimensions for us bigger 6-foot plus riders.

  • @brunodebrandt1037
    @brunodebrandt1037 Жыл бұрын

    To me, the new gsx8s is the prettiest of the suzuki naked bikes. And a lot cooler than the new hornet. Even if the Honda is more fun to ride, it looks way too much as a sensible dad bike. What a shame. The new Suzuki gsx8s will be a hit I think. A torquey engine combined with a refined mix between sport and comfort is what most street riders appreciate.

  • @atlasatlantis8447
    @atlasatlantis8447 Жыл бұрын

    Suzuki should take the Hayabusa engine, and make a cruiser from it.

  • @johnsmith2179

    @johnsmith2179

    Жыл бұрын

    Why do i want to see this

  • @timothyhardrick146

    @timothyhardrick146

    Жыл бұрын

    The Busavard? The Boulebusa?

  • @stevec6427

    @stevec6427

    Жыл бұрын

    Or a lightweight track car. Everyone else puts Hayabusa motors in light weight race cars, maybe Suzuki should do an official one. As a side note, I once crashed a Busa engined Radical track car on the fastest bend at Castle Coombe circuit in England

  • @tordferguson834

    @tordferguson834

    Жыл бұрын

    They definitely did make a naked out of the Hayabusa in the form of the B-King, which was probably a little bit ahead of its time.

  • @exothermal.sprocket

    @exothermal.sprocket

    Жыл бұрын

    You might take a look at the Kawasaki Concours 14.

  • @devonnobles1083
    @devonnobles1083 Жыл бұрын

    So what I heard about the gsx8s is that you think it's a great bike that should sell well, and anyone who buys it will be happy to own it. 👍

  • @ruiner88
    @ruiner88 Жыл бұрын

    I like the GSX-8S look over the MT-07, and if it actually comes with a little more power and a 270 crank, I'd definitely pull the trigger on that when it comes out. I have too many friends with MT-07s as it is, so I don't want to add to that pile.

  • @CosminCraiova

    @CosminCraiova

    11 ай бұрын

    you can always get the MT 09 SP....

  • @druscanam
    @druscanam Жыл бұрын

    I think its best to reserve judgement until you can ride it. I think they will release a 400cc version of the back of this but feel it's important to realise the 800 first. In the same way people see a KTM Duke 390 as a mini Duke/690/790/890/SuperDuke and not the other way around.

  • @marco84010
    @marco84010 Жыл бұрын

    The new Suzuki 8S is one of the best motorcycle's out there in the price range under 10k. The quality of workmanship and the chassis are unparalleled in this price range. The modern design is a matter of taste and the performance is sufficient for everyday driving.

  • @TheGronk78
    @TheGronk78 Жыл бұрын

    Planning to be on two wheels by next summer. Your videos are really helping me look into the bikes that would be right for me

  • @chrispekel5709

    @chrispekel5709

    Жыл бұрын

    The thing is, you don't know what's right until you've been riding for a bit. Nobody can really help you as it's so personal. You'll probably want a totally different style of bike than you start on

  • @parkerjohnson1781
    @parkerjohnson17812 күн бұрын

    I went to buy a mt07 and ended getting the gsx8s for my first street bike. It felt so much better and has more tech.

  • @kurc24k76
    @kurc24k76 Жыл бұрын

    Actually for me this is exactly what i wanted a MT07+. It has all the features of MT07 and a up and down quickshiter, traction control and KYB suspension. I've always wanted that bike but when I rode the first gen. it felt so cheap and barebones, yamaha never actually updated it much until now when honda and suzuki made their bikes, suddenly we get tft display on MT07. I think that more competition is great as now every manufacturer will try to get us the best features with best pricing.

  • @milbella1
    @milbella1 Жыл бұрын

    I think it's a great looking motorcycle with its nice color combinations and tech. It also looks like a more exciting motorcycle compared to the new Hornet's more toned-down look which may steer people to this bike.

  • @jmfaria450

    @jmfaria450

    Жыл бұрын

    Looks are subjective. But the hornet is 20-30 lbs lighter with 10 more hp.

  • @paulconnell1309

    @paulconnell1309

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jmfaria450 And sharper electronics too.

  • @burtdanams4426

    @burtdanams4426

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jmfaria450 yeh 9 more horsepower on a 750cc bike that weighs 420lbs, I’m sure that’ll make a huge difference 😂😂😂

  • @tombellows4167

    @tombellows4167

    11 ай бұрын

    Nobody can honestly say they like this 8s with that incredibly ugly rear tail / light thing from a horror movie! Wtf?

  • @ragerider6283
    @ragerider6283 Жыл бұрын

    I get where you're coming from to some extent but this is where the money's at & the most cost effective configuration now. It's also harsh to condemn it before riding it as P twins with 270° crank can be fun as I know you know deep down lol. Case in point, TRX850, Duke 890, Aprilia 660's, MT07, R7, Honda Hornet & then you have long or short stroke engines too for different characters. Although I agree the Suzuki is unremarkable in the grand scheme of things but I bet it's good & I like it personally. Definitely going to test ride it asap next year as it looks like cheap(ish) & cheerful fun. As for the SV, that's got 2 years left max I would imagine unless they update the engine (& styling) again very soon.

  • @leeengelsman1855
    @leeengelsman1855 Жыл бұрын

    Yes I agree there were more interesting bikes in the past, This would be a great time for a bigger SV650 with a family of variants. But that would be incompatible with this new GSXS8S and so has no chance. The V twin is more costly less compact and heavier to produce than a parallel twin and the market competition is just too fierce now.

  • @cbats1888
    @cbats1888 Жыл бұрын

    All I am waiting for is a SV650-S(RA) replacement such as a GSX-8F! A closer reach to the bars than the SV650S, same playful powerband and I am sold.

  • @Mr_Glenn
    @Mr_Glenn Жыл бұрын

    I actually have an 8S as temporary replacement for my GSR750 at the moment, as the GSR is in for repair. I have to say, it's nice! It lacks the punch my 4 cylinder has, but it's definitely not bad. It's a bike I'd buy if it had more power and lugged a bit less below 3k. It's a pretty good thing! I'd rather have the 8S than the MT07.

  • @Mr_Glenn

    @Mr_Glenn

    Жыл бұрын

    It's also a lot smoother than the 07, vibration wise.

  • @stevec6427
    @stevec6427 Жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see more 360 degree parallel twins. The old Triumph Bonneville 865 motor had heaps of character and with the right pipes it sounds beautiful. Something like that motor but with 80+bhp in a Katana styled bike would be amazing.

  • @leeengelsman1855

    @leeengelsman1855

    Жыл бұрын

    Naaah too hard to reduce the vibrations for a 360°crank at high revs.

  • @MikeSmith-vb8ul

    @MikeSmith-vb8ul

    8 ай бұрын

    @@leeengelsman1855 Then why not a nice torquey 180° parallel twin? Easier to balance but with 800-850cc unlike the Ninja/Z650...

  • @HifeMan

    @HifeMan

    8 ай бұрын

    @@leeengelsman1855 I have an W800 and the high revs aren't that bad, it's the middle rpm range where the vibes get real. 3-4k is vibe city but it gets pretty smooth once your below or above. Awesome engine with a lot of character but it does lack power. Still an blast to ride though and sounds great too. :)

  • @pskalenda14
    @pskalenda1423 сағат бұрын

    I test drove a GSX8S last year at a dealer demo day in Toronto. Wasn’t able to open it up on busy streets but I hated the engine in comparison to my 2020 Honda CB650R. The parallel twin felt and sounded cheap compared to my inline 4. Loved my CB already, but loved it way more on the drive home from the demo. Also drove the GSX-S1000GT, which was phenomenal. My new dream bike.

  • @NovaScotia300
    @NovaScotia300 Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad that Suzuki is taking steps to creating new machines and also developing and using up to date technology to keep them current and relevant in the market today.

  • @martymcfly1776
    @martymcfly1776 Жыл бұрын

    I see it as an obvious replacement for the GSXS 750 which was probably a very good motorcycle in the middleweight naked class but never sold well. This parallels Honda replacing the CBR 650 with the new Hornet 750 which also is a parallel twin and the obvious competition for the GSX-8S. Vertical twins in this market segment make a lot of sense. They are lighter and cheaper than four cylinder bikes, and in the low and mid rev ranges where urban riders live, they are more responsive to throttle input. Of the two I'm inclined to think that my choice would be the Hornet, but I think either would be a good choice. Of course the MT-07 that started this trend is still an attractive choice. If Suzuki does decide to retire the SV-650 it will be either because of euro-compliance issues or poor sales. I really like the idea of a GSX-4S. Are you listening Suzuki?

  • @englishsteel-nz6im

    @englishsteel-nz6im

    Жыл бұрын

    The gsx-s750 ironically blows away the mt09 and z900 in real performance and it sold poor cuz it's more sport bike than naked bike in the segment and people want torque-y wheelie machines over high revving cornering machines out of the class. These p-twins are becoming increasingly boring homogenized bikes. I've never been an MT line fan. The SV just has so much character even tho it's a bit dated.

  • @MurrMan23

    @MurrMan23

    Жыл бұрын

    @@englishsteel-nz6im more sport bike than naked bike? Naked bikes are sport bikes… also the 750 has more torque and low end power than the 8s. Way torquier and all round way better bike. I have one and it is completely under rated for what a good bike it is.

  • @englishsteel-nz6im

    @englishsteel-nz6im

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MurrMan23 Naked bikes run the spectrum from hooligan machines that have more adv/dirt bike DNA, to cruiser-y type of bikes, to sport bikes without fairings--- the Z900 and Mt09 are more upright hooligan DNA than sport bike DNA. Other than that my post argued how badass the S750 is compared to the new twins and it's immediate competitors--- especially track and curves where it lights up. I own one and really enjoy thrashing it around.

  • @MurrMan23

    @MurrMan23

    Жыл бұрын

    Mt-09, Z900, and gsx-s750 are all in the naked sport bike class. They all have sport bike engines, frames, and suspension. They are street oriented sport bikes unlike supersports that are specifically designed for track

  • @englishsteel-nz6im

    @englishsteel-nz6im

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MurrMan23 And SuperSports while being "race replica" bikes are designed for the street--- when people race them or dedicated track set up they usually do a number of mods to make them totally track oriented bikes and set up for that purpose. A GSXR for example is very designed for the street out of the box and is actually pretty comfortable ergonomics. Either way tons of "naked bikes" have nothing in common with performance sport bikes. Some do tho, as listed.

  • @krzysztofg2145
    @krzysztofg2145 Жыл бұрын

    I think that - apart from engine similarities to other manufactures - this nice Suzuki looks really nice. At first glance - it looks way more similar to new concept Hornet than this abomination which have "hornet" in the name ;) So. Plus for Suzuki for trying something new and keep up with sporty / agressive looks.

  • @dumptrump3788
    @dumptrump3788 Жыл бұрын

    I like what Suzuki have done with the GSX8S/VStrom 800, but IMO they really need to use this platform to make an ip to date version of the GS500F, namely a light, fuel efficient, easy to live with, reliable bike that keeps the worst wind/rain off you, is sane at slow speeds & yet till has enough power to elicit the occasional YEET! The Ninja 650 is the only bike around, these days, that cones anywhere close to that & people scoffed at my old GS500F yet their "Hyper Naked" bikes had them sat out in cold wind & rain when the full fairing & screen on my weezing old GS mostly kept me dry & only partially frozen!

  • @leeengelsman1855

    @leeengelsman1855

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes sounds like an excellent suggestion.

  • @pizarro3
    @pizarro3 Жыл бұрын

    After much research I'm undecided between this Gsx 8, Triumph Trident. But this one has more torque and I think that with a nice muffler it will have an incredible sound. What color to choose?

  • @dereckwisniewski9311
    @dereckwisniewski9311 Жыл бұрын

    MT-08, i don’t think so. But I do think you did missed an opportunity to say ‘How about an MT-07 SP?’ An upscaled MT-07 with fully adjustable, maybe electronic, suspension, upgraded dash, six axis IMU and so forth just like the SP versions of the MT-09 and MT-10. Now that makes sense.

  • @toofastnobrakes
    @toofastnobrakes Жыл бұрын

    Yammie!!!! We need to see YOU ride the new FTR!!!!!!

  • @ruysk
    @ruysk Жыл бұрын

    Suzuki should use the DL-1050 V2 engine in a roadster type bike with much torque down low. That could be a cool bike.

  • @angelfabricioacevedoperez5066

    @angelfabricioacevedoperez5066

    Жыл бұрын

    A new SV1000 I'm down!

  • @TheElicoA
    @TheElicoA Жыл бұрын

    Hi, Thank you for the video. I was thinking of getting the SV650 but then saw this gsx-8s considered to be it's successor, I am more impressed by the SV650 but I feel like the extra security features of the gsx are improvements (traction control?!), I am pretty noob with motorcycles, will be great to hear your opinion :)

  • @fortyinthestreets8526
    @fortyinthestreets8526 Жыл бұрын

    This is exactly what you asked for. You said 600cc in-line 4s were not practical so you got bigger cc parallel twin naked bikes. Tbh I like the Aprilia naked bike approach

  • @patricksandlin2700
    @patricksandlin2700 Жыл бұрын

    Yammie will slap on a new exhaust & tail tidy then call it the best bike ever! 🤣🤙🏼

  • @dolphinride5157

    @dolphinride5157

    6 ай бұрын

    So, a year later and that hasn't happened. In that time I have come to think the GSX-8S is probably number one in the middle weight naked category. I want one!!!

  • @AnotherBrokenBuild

    @AnotherBrokenBuild

    Ай бұрын

    lol that’s what he just did with the 8r

  • @danielnicholson8190
    @danielnicholson819011 ай бұрын

    Does the current middleweight naked competition remind anyone else of the 80's 750cc competition between the big 4?

  • @godly_boss_hog4305
    @godly_boss_hog4305 Жыл бұрын

    As someone who does most of my riding in town but still needs to get on the highway reliably I would buy a GSX 4S kind of bike in a heartbeat. Not a lot of competition in that power range more would certainly be welcome.

  • @garborubbish7034

    @garborubbish7034

    Жыл бұрын

    Z400

  • @godly_boss_hog4305

    @godly_boss_hog4305

    Жыл бұрын

    Z400 is in fact a 400cc motorcycle and a decent one at that. My point remains that it would be nice to have some serious competition rather than 2 or 3 options which will also bring more competitive pricing.

  • @dingerjunkie
    @dingerjunkie Жыл бұрын

    The last time we had this pattern was the '70s UJM phase, right when we had an economic fail (Carter stagflation & gas crunch). In the face of that, the Japanese chose to innovate...or at least radically experiment. It led to the "custom fours" (era of the Nighthawk), the first Japanese cruisers (era of Shadow, LTD and Virago), the bagger era (dawn of real goldwings), the super-sports (ELR replica, CBX, Turbos) and eventually the V-4 era of Interceptors/Magnas/Sabres. The cycle of boring, cookie-cutter bikes, stagflation, gas price hikes are upon us again. Either the industry players choose to make themselves distinct, or they will eat themselves like they were doing in the era of the SOHC-CB/GS/KZ/XS.

  • @JohnnieV
    @JohnnieVАй бұрын

    I’m a newb but love the sound & looks of the v twin. I’d love to learn about the why of every bike using a parallel twin.

  • @goru426
    @goru426 Жыл бұрын

    The price was announced for the US market. The MSRP + destination is about $9500, after taxes and dealership markups it will be around $11,500-$12,000. I think that is too much for a plastic fantastic bike.

  • @marvinfenech7138
    @marvinfenech7138 Жыл бұрын

    I bought the gsxs750z in 2021 nothing to complain about the bike bit heavy when it's not going but when you drive it you forget about it ,coming from a Gixxer 600 before ,I didn't know that was coming out the S8 if I had known I would surely waited for it what ever they say if it's good or not I like it even coming from 4 cylinder to twin final point is buy whatever feel your heart wants 😅

  • @misterwin2393
    @misterwin2393 Жыл бұрын

    How do you stan for Triumphs and still judge a bike by the spreadsheet?

  • @Dschinghiss
    @Dschinghiss Жыл бұрын

    Well, market conditions are not the greatest and emission regulations arent getting easier, either. So I get that the Japanese would rather keep it simple. I think the GSX-8S looks better than its competitors and at the end of the day its a Street Naked, so margins arent gonna be high for these either, unlike with ADVs right now, which is why everyone is trying to pump one of those out.

  • @harveymutch4158
    @harveymutch4158 Жыл бұрын

    Here in the UK, the Hornet has been priced at £6995, that's the same price as the venerable Suzuki SV650. The rumoured price for the 8S was around the £8000 mark, that's a sizeable extra wad of cash for a bike which gives away 10 bhp, needs a diet and has a smaller tank, but does have the quick shifter as standard (circa £250 extra on the Honda). Suzuki UK is probably having to rethink their pricing right now, but if it really is released at £8000, it might be a much harder sell. I would suspect the Honda will achieve better sales in these recessionary times unless the Suzuki is significantly better on the road.

  • @fortyfour1654

    @fortyfour1654

    Жыл бұрын

    Overpriced Overweight Underpowered Ultra Competitive Segment Net result, they'll heavily discount the price with unsold stock at the end of the year. Then it's a more palatable option.

  • @Palleboy92
    @Palleboy9210 ай бұрын

    As a future beginner in the squid game I literally had my pants tighten oh so quick when you mentioned how they should make it a 400 cc

  • @keldonator
    @keldonator Жыл бұрын

    I think it looks great. Looking forward to test ride one.

  • @xabierolaizola1061
    @xabierolaizola1061 Жыл бұрын

    I think that with the death of the old sportster there is a space to compete with HD, because the new nightster does not have the charm of the old one, so there could be a sport-cruiser vacant that japanese manufacturers could nail it

  • @nicerides9224

    @nicerides9224

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think competing with Harley is a good idea. Their core customers are shrinking in number every year. The Harley style cruiser has been done to death and anyone really into that style wants the Harley badge on their bike. The future is electric and rather than spend money on another Harley clone it's better to use that money and resources to start development in that sphere. Especially if you want to sell into the European market.

  • @richardwarsinske7064
    @richardwarsinske7064 Жыл бұрын

    Yamaha is able to sell every MT07 (and probably 4X more if they were available) that has a wonderful engine and the rest of the bike is below average. The Suzuki and Honda new 270° P-twins at least have the potential to deliver equal or better engine performance/character + large improvements in chassis performance/features/looks at a similar price so sounds like a win for consumers IMO. I was hoping Yamaha would at least include all the R7 upgrades (suspension, brakes, slipper clutch) in the 2023 MT07 but it looks like we just get a TFT display so likely demand for it will diminish and Yamaha will be forced to to upgrade and hopefully give us a great all-arounder like the current MT09.

  • @exothermal.sprocket

    @exothermal.sprocket

    Жыл бұрын

    Yamaha runs upgraded suspension bones on the R3 and MT-03. I don't see why they can't do a bit more for the MT-07 by way of hardware, such as radial calipers and USD forks, even if minimally adjustable.

  • @richardwarsinske7064

    @richardwarsinske7064

    Жыл бұрын

    @@exothermal.sprocket Several better performing 270° twin options hopefully will force Yamaha to do just that.

  • @MikeSmith-vb8ul

    @MikeSmith-vb8ul

    Жыл бұрын

    Stock MT-07 has adjustable rebound shock while stock GSX-8 has inverted forks ; ) Your pick...

  • @richardwarsinske7064

    @richardwarsinske7064

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MikeSmith-vb8ul USD fork far more important IMO. Whether it provides better dampening control or not it will always be more rigid and have better steering feel. My understanding is OEM Yamaha shocks (Suzuki probably the same) are only good for about 8000mi. and not serviceable so any adjustment advantages will be short lived. Suzuki may still lose in the end because of its extra weight and longer wheelbase possible making it feel like a much larger motorcycle. If you live outside the US/Canada the new Honda Hornet is better than the MT07 in every way from the press reactions I've seen and I personally prefer the KTM Duke 790 over the MT07 too. Waiting on some actual ride reviews to see where the Suzuki comparatively fits.

  • @PeterAqualung
    @PeterAqualung Жыл бұрын

    I like these Yammie raps to classical music videos

  • @DesertDuck_TH
    @DesertDuck_TH Жыл бұрын

    I believe it would be great if Japanese manufacturers could give us 2-3 cylinder 1000cc "Crazy Bike" (but not crazy expensive like the super duke 1290r) pricing it just below their i4 sport bike. As everyone is heading toward high torque and low to mid range power these days, why don't make it count and make some phenomenal bike?

  • @fqeagles21
    @fqeagles21 Жыл бұрын

    I would love to see a new supercharged Ducati to finally beat the H2 and H2R even in straight line

  • @leeengelsman1855

    @leeengelsman1855

    Жыл бұрын

    No one could afford to buy it though!.

  • @HeliNomadic
    @HeliNomadic Жыл бұрын

    8:06 is where he almost starts to let go of his anti Suzuki bias. Give it a ride once it comes out and see how you like it Papa Yam.

  • @SeanOzz
    @SeanOzz Жыл бұрын

    What’s the guess of the price when it’s released?

  • @paulconnell1309
    @paulconnell1309 Жыл бұрын

    This bike fits into an ideal slot. The 890 and 900ish bikes have more power and performance than you need or can realistically use on the road. This 750 space is a sweet spot for useable power and handling. The SV650 is old and a little lame, fans aside. The GSX S750 is great value and has the mix of smoothness around town and is quick if you push it with handling better than it should be on the specs. Amazing value where I live. But it's dated and everyone ignores it. They do till sell new here in NZ. The Trident, Hornet and now the GSX 8S fill a perfect niche. They are as big as a big bike actually needs to be. Great plan from Suzuki and Honda. Time for the MT07 to step aside. Or create an SP version... And yes, a GXS 4S is a gimme.

  • @ridzzy6969
    @ridzzy6969 Жыл бұрын

    why are people talking about the SV650 being discontinued? was there anything official from Suzuki?

  • @You_tub8058
    @You_tub8058 Жыл бұрын

    Motorcycling design has evolved into a complete package for riders. It's not all about the engine anymore. Suzuki doesn't make a lot of different bikes. They aren't the first to make a new bike for this new generation of street bikes. It would make sense, it feels slapped on. For Suzuki, you know you're getting a complete package from front to back, unlike something from Yamaha or Kawasaki . I would say you just have to ride it first before an opinion.

  • @zeepro_tv
    @zeepro_tv Жыл бұрын

    On your topic of forced induction motorcycles: Yamaha currently employs a 1049cc turbocharged triple in their snowmobiles. They have the tech and the knowledge to balance that motor over two wheels and one day I could see a viper-derived turbocharged bike being their mascot street bike.

  • @exothermal.sprocket

    @exothermal.sprocket

    Жыл бұрын

    I know. PWC and snowmobiles, these companies have some pretty trick technology. I doubt however, that the same engineers offer much crossover in the divisions of these brands. Kawasaki borrowed the technological know-how from their jet-turbine industry to help develop the H2 supercharger system, to allow for boost without a complex intercooler system (aftermarket dudes out there have developed one anyway).

  • @mattblecker47
    @mattblecker47 Жыл бұрын

    The Kawasaki h2 uses forced induction and is wayyyy nicer than the busa. Also get a nice sounding slim motorcycle with better reliability than the 790 duke, better suspension and tech that everyone wants over the mt07, and looks wayyy better take me now. Makes a lot of sense over the duke when it comes to the final price tag for street riding.

  • @DasChristoff
    @DasChristoff Жыл бұрын

    Looks similar to my 2023 gsx s1000. I love my gsx! Amazing bike!

  • @andrewmilhoan3568
    @andrewmilhoan3568 Жыл бұрын

    It looks tons better than the new Hornet…even being down 10hp. The Hornet looks just like a 500F, which is great if you’re looking for a sleeper bike…but most people don’t want a fast(er) bike that looks so similar to a 300/500 bore fest of a motorcycle.

  • @josha4913
    @josha4913 Жыл бұрын

    I’ll come back once you’ve ridden it papa yams 😂

  • @buckrogers2546
    @buckrogers2546 Жыл бұрын

    I agree this bike is lame but the GSX 750 looks sounds and performs good with that inline 4.

  • @JD-fd6gt
    @JD-fd6gt Жыл бұрын

    Suzuki has always competed against Honda, Yamaha, and Kawasaki in motorcycle segments. Thats why they are called " the big four " if you were actually a real motorcycle enthusiast, you would have at least known that...

  • @exothermal.sprocket

    @exothermal.sprocket

    Жыл бұрын

    He's got some stubborn bias, a little lack of higher elevation older-aged perspective.

  • @ripntearslayer9101
    @ripntearslayer910111 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately since the vstrom went the way of the parallel twin, i dont see the sv650 lasting long either, which is very upsetting. Besides suzuki, aprillia and ducati are the only ones making sport v engines. If they really want to be different, they have to keep to making affordable V/L engines. A possibility (not probable, but hopeful) is that the sv1000 could make a comeback, tho i would love to see an sv800, sv900, or something around there. That way the v strom could resume being a v engine, plus fill another niche.

  • @diamondheat9
    @diamondheat9 Жыл бұрын

    Kawasaki wouldn't jump in because it is pointless. They have the Z900 which is just a little bit more money than what Yamaha already offers with little bit more power. It would be useless to suddenly bore out a z650.

  • @exothermal.sprocket

    @exothermal.sprocket

    Жыл бұрын

    Versys, Vulcan, Ninja, Z, ZRS all need a new 650. It's been around since 2006 and has always been the buzzy blandsville of the 650 twin class with a 180º firing interval.

  • @cranedaddy678
    @cranedaddy6788 ай бұрын

    LOL @ the negative comments on this bike and the motor. Go ride one.

  • @hampuspettersson5388
    @hampuspettersson5388 Жыл бұрын

    what is the price for the suzuki?? i read 14000 msrp somewhere and if that is the case its not a contender for the mt07 at all

  • @yawningdogge
    @yawningdogge2 ай бұрын

    I'm on the fence about the styling, and this isn't the type of bike I would normally consider. But my local dealer has this at under 7k USD. That makes it VERY hard to ignore.

  • @SWTVENOM

    @SWTVENOM

    Ай бұрын

    Tbh this bike looks way better in person, I hated it when I first saw it. Now it’s one of my fav designs

  • @BuiltDifferent13
    @BuiltDifferent13 Жыл бұрын

    I feel like Suzuki's are always starter bikes for people because they're kind of cheaper and you can always come across them. Suzuki is great man... My 1994 RMX250 IS A GEM.... Wish I could supermodo it where I live

  • @jridenour31
    @jridenour31 Жыл бұрын

    Who cares if other manufacturers already make similar bikes? They're not all exactly the same. It just gives people another option and that's a good thing.

  • @langhamp8912
    @langhamp8912 Жыл бұрын

    It's a fine motorcycle but USD non-adjustable forks? Like, not even preload?

  • @user-rl8kr1uj6c
    @user-rl8kr1uj6c4 ай бұрын

    Yamaha really needed to add SOMETHING to the 2024 MT07- at the very least a slipper clutch and maybe a simple "Rain/Go Nuts" traction control selection.

  • @greatbigeye2506
    @greatbigeye2506 Жыл бұрын

    270 twins are awesome but so is the SV650 and the styling is much more up my alley than this new bike.

  • @nathenshin9992
    @nathenshin99928 ай бұрын

    Would love a video of your thoughts on the new GSX-8R :)

  • @Captain1929.

    @Captain1929.

    8 ай бұрын

    It’s exactly the same as this bike they just put fairings on it

  • @mikeamphlett7913
    @mikeamphlett79133 ай бұрын

    99% of reviews on this bike are very positive. I bought mine on these reviews and to me it is just awesome. It is not a motox bike or an adventure bike or a cross country tourer derrr who would have thought...... I have had those bikes. This bike is the best all rounder, for city, canyon carving and B roads where I ride 90pc of the time. Just fun fun fun,...

  • @Goopie48
    @Goopie48 Жыл бұрын

    Can't Suzuki just update the ancient 2011 model GSXR750 still sold today as new? I'd pick one up right away if they did that, if the R9 doesn't come out first.

  • @mitchellharrington9127
    @mitchellharrington9127 Жыл бұрын

    We want to see innovation & creativity. People want to feel 'that unique something' when you ride & look at your bike; not just the same bike with a different colour & badge. Manufactures are too comfortable these days, I can understand why; however innovation has never occurred through 'playing it safe'. Think of your favourite bike of all time, Is it a copy & paste of another bike? Or at the time; was it creative, risky, fresh & exciting? We ride because of how it makes us feel, So it's time to create bikes that'll give us that feeling which we all know & love.

  • @mbee1337
    @mbee1337 Жыл бұрын

    1:18 don't know why, dear lord, but I was thinking of "new kids on the block" -- STEP BY STEP, S8 BABE, GONNA GET YOU GIRL

  • @BigCarKilla
    @BigCarKilla Жыл бұрын

    In australia, if they ditch the 650 then they won’t have an entry level large capacity bike. So a sleeved version of this would make sense.

  • @ontopent
    @ontopent Жыл бұрын

    The weakeness to the fz07 are the front forks

  • @Brian_R6
    @Brian_R6 Жыл бұрын

    From what I saw on paper I think the GSX 8S is much better than the MT07, more value for money. Yamaha really disappointed me for 2023 with the MT07. I don't think Suzuki is gonna get rid of the GSX S750 or the sv650 from what I read tho. I'm really excited for this bike to come out an see how it rides.

  • @chrispekel5709

    @chrispekel5709

    Жыл бұрын

    No reason for them to innovate when it sells so well already.

  • @exothermal.sprocket

    @exothermal.sprocket

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chrispekel5709 When the competition catches, and outruns you, you innovate. It's basic market economics.

  • @casparbosch5615
    @casparbosch5615 Жыл бұрын

    I would like to see a gsx 4s, especially since europe can't get the drz from factory anymore.

  • @tonymason3638
    @tonymason36386 ай бұрын

    Good interview I definitely agree.❤

  • @petersherwood8565
    @petersherwood85654 ай бұрын

    Would be a good idea to put the centre stand back a comfortable seat and passenger grab rail

  • @troythevis4456
    @troythevis4456 Жыл бұрын

    👍 I like the bike. I was hoping Suzuki would make a GSXR in a triple. GSXR690R triple

  • @neonsheep3358
    @neonsheep3358 Жыл бұрын

    Because I'm a crazy person I want to see a modern RE-5.

  • @verigone2677
    @verigone2677 Жыл бұрын

    Yes, make a GSX-4 and have 2 or 3 in the line one full faired, one naked, maybe one with a little more ADV stance. so the GSX-4X, S, T

  • @markymarknj
    @markymarknj Жыл бұрын

    I have three thoughts about this bike. First, my reaction is "meh". Two, P-twins are big because their manufacturing costs are so much lower.; you only need one valve train, one cylinder head, etc. Three, there is someone doing something different out there: Royal Enfield. They're finding bike niches that are overlooked by the other motorcycle makers, so riders are sitting up and taking notice.

  • @damon1957ful
    @damon1957ful Жыл бұрын

    After test riding all the naked middle weights, i picked the 8s its a better alround package than the others, so for me youre wrong and i am glad i dont every take others advice

  • @horneblendeandcamguy
    @horneblendeandcamguy Жыл бұрын

    I'm still hoping for the 750 hornet to come to the US

  • @chrispekel5709

    @chrispekel5709

    Жыл бұрын

    It will

  • @wboeren1
    @wboeren1 Жыл бұрын

    Just like the retro bikes, i really liked it, but not when everyone is riding one...

  • @Joe-629
    @Joe-629 Жыл бұрын

    And you have not even test rode it yet.

  • @michaelmugo247
    @michaelmugo247 Жыл бұрын

    Informative

  • @Ephem13
    @Ephem13 Жыл бұрын

    Motorcycles are going through the same thing cars went through. Anything that is unique or different doesn't sell. Cars and motorcycles are getting boring because people are getting boring.

  • @paulgibson4365
    @paulgibson4365 Жыл бұрын

    Yam, when will you paint the turbo BUSA's tank?

  • @Cthooligan
    @Cthooligan Жыл бұрын

    Who are all these niche bike categories for? I started on a 650 and upgraded to a liter bike. Why waste time and money getting something 1 or two tiers down from the flagship if it doesn't bring anything different to the table?

  • @malcolmeunson5543
    @malcolmeunson5543 Жыл бұрын

    Now to update the drz with ef, and 6 gears….!

  • @yesJLY
    @yesJLY Жыл бұрын

    Is the Trident 660 not worth comparing with the 8S?

  • @TheSilviu8x
    @TheSilviu8x Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely nailed it with the 400-ish Suzuki! I'll add only that 500cc is o much more better as a comercial though... I can't believe that only Honda and really not even them are present on the half liter segment. I mean, wtf is going on?? .5 liter is cinese only, they are getting away with 6k bikes, fuxx!!

  • @J2I3H
    @J2I3H Жыл бұрын

    Gsx should have torque a lot lower down the rev range than the Hornet. Making it more hooligan ready. Its to heavy tho, the xsr/mt-07 are a lot lighter/more wheelie happy

  • @christopher7310
    @christopher7310 Жыл бұрын

    Currently riding a 2019 MT-07. I'm honestly not impressed and don't understand the fan girl hype it gets. I test rode a GSX-S 750 and enjoyed that bike much more. I'm happy Suzuki finally made something new... But I'm more excited about selling my MT-07 for the GSX-S 750.

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