We live in an age where budget cpus are still cheap with plenty o performance to be used for years but budget gpus of the same kind don't exist

@RandomGaminginHD

Жыл бұрын

Yeah hopefully some day

@AndreFreitas91250

Жыл бұрын

Maybe the best price/performance budget GPU is the RX 6600.

@igm1571

Жыл бұрын

More like we cant fine any "finewine" graphics card, when the time gtx1060 or rx570 domination all benchmark games but when the game are way more realistic and also poor optimization then there's a problem since most of budget card now still not powerful enough as p/p than CPU itself, if exist the price are not "budget"

@Dark.Syndicate

Жыл бұрын

6600? 6650 xt? 6700 xt?

@dexmiermaxime8583

Жыл бұрын

@@AndreFreitas91250 grabbed one last month. It's perfect if you stick to 1080p but not really above.

I notice that more expensive 13500 is completely different beast. Got 4 extra cores\threads, 200mhz bump turbo and gpu for £40 more. It is interesting decision.

@RandomGaminginHD

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that does look tempting indeed

@anurbanpenguin8890

Жыл бұрын

Was going to comment exactly this. 13500 looks like the sweet spot in this generation

@nartboglin9046

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully the performance is as good as it sounds, that would make the 13500 a really good option for 1200 dollar builds

@supercool_saiyan5670

Жыл бұрын

probably better off with a 13600k because of the extra cache

@teteakhiangte6015

Жыл бұрын

Do you need extra 4 E-cores for desktop!! I guess we don't need efficiency cores from a gaming point of view. If it's a laptop, it makes sense.

Really appreciate the different coloured results for 13400f in the comparison section. Made it way easier to understand

Its always a breath of fresh air on the tech YT video scene to watch someone pairing components that are reasonably priced and that perform well together.

Dude, thank you for making these videos, always been hard for me to wrap my head around pc building testing and all the bits between. Your videos have been a crutch of comfort thank you for that!

Looks like it's priced really nice too. Though I'd happily pay the extra $10-$20 for integrated graphics to fall back on and for QuickSync if you do any kind of video editing/export.

@RandomGaminginHD

Жыл бұрын

Ah yeah good shout. IGPU can be a lifesaver sometimes

@fermitupoupon1754

Жыл бұрын

The catch with that seems to be that a 13400F retails for 229 euro here, whereas the 13400 retails for 269 euro. That same 40 euro is the difference between a 3050 and a 3060, which is a huge difference performance wise.

@WayStedYou

Жыл бұрын

and to have an actual useable PC if your graphics card dies in the meantime, or for troubleshooting

@ElectricJoeski

Жыл бұрын

@@fermitupoupon1754 Good point, would never try to talk anyone out of a 3060 vs 3050 because of $40 euro.

@manoftherainshorts9075

Жыл бұрын

This CPU already has 12 cores. Quicksync isn't that required.

I just upgraded 2 systems to 5600G on a 300 and 400 series motherboard. Really worked a treat, going to get every cent I can out of these AM4 boards. An Asus Prime B350M-A from 2017 runs a 5600G perfectly, it feels even more stable and steady than a GA-B450M-DS3H which 3 years newer.

The addition of E-cores into Intel's budget oriented CPUs is a very nice addition in my opinion. Makes me have high hopes for future multicore performance on next gen processors

@tech_evolved

Жыл бұрын

@Lurch Just out of curiosity, what makes you stay away from E-Cores?

@mikeymaiku

Жыл бұрын

@@tech_evolved because amd is the little guy and people have no problem paying massive premiums for anything they buy... intel or amd

@aleksazunjic9672

Жыл бұрын

Actually, they are almost completely useless for desktops 😁It would be better to have 2 more regular cores instead of 4 "little ones" .

@xynonners

Жыл бұрын

am I the only guy who wants 4-P cores but 16-E cores?

@xynonners

Жыл бұрын

@@aleksazunjic9672 pretty sure the size is 1P to 4E on the die

Great review, i like that you used a budget gpu, with the settings most of us will use, and demonstrated that, the new chip, won't matter much in terms of gaming. Using settings or gpus that nobody will pair, shows different things, but i like to see how my system will behave, and not how many frames the cpu will hit at 720p paired with a rtx 4090

Intel's release of non K raptor lake products has been a blessing. This cpu is strong enough to handle many GPUs with little to no bottlenecks. Curious to see how it runs with something like a 4090. I5 13400 seems solid for midrange imo. Great video as always!

@RandomGaminginHD

Жыл бұрын

Definitely, and thank you :)

@vloblo

Жыл бұрын

13400/13500 is Alder Lake refreshed, not Raptor Lake.

@steph_on_yt

Жыл бұрын

The 13400 should perform about 5-10% faster than a 12400 in gaming workloads. The 4.1GHz all-core boost clock really holds it back, considering the 12600K does 4.5GHz all-core in games.

@tilburg8683

Жыл бұрын

@@vloblo yeah I honestly think it's not even faster than the 12400f at the same clock. Might even lose then due to the 13400 having the E cores which wrecks some games, much higher power consumption and being much hotter.

@vloblo

Жыл бұрын

@@tilburg8683 Clocks a bit faster (0.2 Ghz). Windows 10/11's E-core scheduler is pretty good, minimal losses in gaming. At worst, E cores runs background tasks as intended. It's a net upgrade with scummy naming making people think these are 13th gen Kaby Cove cores. It seems that Intel is not going to give any processors below 13600k real Kaby Cove cores, 13600 included.

The efficiency cores are better for having background programs. Saw a video where they disabled the efficiency cores and the performance was the exact same except for some few like 2 fps dips. The efficiency cores allow much less performance loss if you like having your entire search history open while playing a game.

This comparison is much more helpful and meaning full. You did an awesome video. Most ppl use a top tier Motherboard and ram which will not give useful info to budget gamers ... thank you

This seems actually a more typical conf for the Average PC gamer. I mean, the most popular GPU on Steam is the 1650. Most PC gamers don’t have deep pockets, even though when you read comments under videos of tech tubers it seems that everyone has a high end PC and upgrades all the F times.

@jetblack15

Жыл бұрын

You wrong ma man, the most popular GPU is Other. Ba dum tss!

@DavideDavini

Жыл бұрын

@@jetblack15 Fancy seeing you here. LOL.

@Nonebit

Жыл бұрын

1650 is popular on steam because of the huge amount of cheap gaming laptops that include it's weaker portable variant. Steam doesn't show you which type of GPU it is tho

@DavideDavini

Жыл бұрын

@@Nonebit they do have different percentages for 3060 mobile and desktop, if I recall correctly. Still, if memory serves, they don’t have anything better than the 3060 in the top 5 and, the best GPU in the top 10 is the 3070. The 3080 is 17th or something. Ain’t saying the Steam HW survey is gospel but it is data we can look at and, Steam is the most popular online store. That data show a pretty different picture than the one you might expect reading some comments on the Internet. That’s all I’m saying. 🙂

Thanks for the video, would have been good to add the 12/13 gen i3 results to the graphic at the end. Cheers!

Hello everyone and welcome to another video

@bobcorn69

Жыл бұрын

Hello everyone and welcome to another comment

@RandomGaminginHD

Жыл бұрын

😁

@Nassyy

Жыл бұрын

Hello everyone, and welcome to another response, to another comment, on another video...

much thanks for the review 😍

Thank you for making this video. I have a 12400 now and was wondering how this chips stacked against it.

I was waiting for this video, thank you.

@RandomGaminginHD

Жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoyed it!

Beautifully spoken and presented, sir! I thought about subscribing to you after this video, then I noticed that I was already subscribed... to a fellow Englishman! I'm planning on buying this year an ASUS Prime 660-M motherboard with the i5-13400F (with better cooler) paired with the RTX 3070 and 32 GB of 3600 MHz DD4 RAM and a 1TB M.2 SSD. 😃👍 And you are right: the 13400 is not a "budget" processor (13th Gen FFS!) but a mid-range one... unlike other KZreadrs claim!

I never knew I needed the "Motherboards on mossy brick" aethstetic, but i'm glad you do it.

@RandomGaminginHD

Жыл бұрын

😁

Thanks for testing it with a more reasonable GPU, really helps to put things into perspective.

@RandomGaminginHD

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

I recommend you to test cpus with the RPCS3 emulator. A really demanding cpu program and you can see the real performance of every cpu you test. Even more with the games that aren't fully playable, like God of War 3, Red Dead Redemption and the Infamous games.

Looking forward i5 13500 review!

I got a i5 13500 in the tray version, that way i saved about 20€. I built my new system yesterday with a Strix B660-f which also had the newest bios on it. Im very satasfied with it's performance but power consumption could be a little bit lower i think, or maybe im thinking that way because i upgraded from an i5 10400f. At first i was worrying about my AIO not fiting the LGA 1700 because its an enermax aquafusion 360mm without an actual LGA 1700 installation kit, but fortunately the more expensive and high end-like (only) asus mainboards all have like a double hole cutout for installing different kinds of coolers so that way i was able to fit my LGA 1200 bracket on that board without thermal issues.

Thank you so much I was building my first gaming computer and did not know what the fan was for that was included

@lorddndck1361

2 ай бұрын

P.s. I was in a panic until I watched your video. Couldn't find anything online

Outstanding. I guess i wasn't paying attention to the beginning narrative because you had me worried there wasn't going to be a comparison, but you nailed it at the end. It would have been a missed opportunity. You knocked this one out of the park. There is a lacking of cpu scaling content at the mid to lower end Intel chips presently and this was what i've been watching for. This is one of my favorite videos of yours. I'd keep riding this pony. Bigger channels are appealing to the biased masses and seemingly only scaling the new ryzen chips with only the high end intel chips making appearances. I'm sure it's hard work because not many do much of it consistently. Regardless, good show.

@RandomGaminginHD

Жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

I am building my new Pc, finishing it after this video actually! It is a 12400f I found new for 140 USD and a b660 MSI Bazooka 145 USD. Carrying over my ram and gpu from my last build. I-5 9600k, Z370 ATX Gigabyte Board, Trident Z 3600, and an Asus Dual RTX 3060ti. This video makes me feel good about the pairing. VS the 13400f the 12400f looks to be a great value. Thank you for your hard work and appreciate the content RGINHD!

Given current LGA 1700 mobo prices, i kinda really like these new i5's. They're very very very fast and you're not going to run out of threads anymore with these. Dead end platform but who cares! You're spending a lot less than if you went AM5, are getting top tier performance and can even reuse old DDR4 memory if you want.

@cake6970

Жыл бұрын

Yep, it might be a dead-end platform but it will certainly last for the next couple of years, and with that we only have to upgrade the gpu down the path 😁

@radicalthunder5740

Жыл бұрын

@Cake it'll last for atleast 5 years

@MLWJ1993

Жыл бұрын

I don't feel like purchasing AM5 for "platform longevity" is as much of a consideration for the majority of people as the internet comments try to make you believe... I'm still on an i7-8700 which is perfectly capable of doing what I want it to, despite it no longer appearing on most benchmark charts 😛

@Don_Akane89

Жыл бұрын

@@MLWJ1993 You'll be fine I'm still on my i7-3770 and it runs most things well lol. Only things it wont are top of the line performance hog games & games that are poorly optimized. Will personally be upgrading to a 12100F system soon though. After over 10 years, I feel like it's time for a change (mainly for all the work I'm doing on it. It performing better on games is just a plus). I agree though. Platform longevity should only be considered as a bonus. Otherwise, your budget is best put to a system that gets you the most worth for your money.

@prashantmishra9985

Жыл бұрын

​@@Don_Akane89 Get i5 12400f if you can. 2 extra cores and 4 extra threads will give it another long run as your i7 3770 did.

Wow you actually review this cpu first than those bigger tech you tubers

Excited to see how it does in Premiere.

Really love those garden b-rolls you do to present the hardware.

@RandomGaminginHD

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

Good review

Would you be able to test old games from the 2000s with the P/E cores? I"m curious if there's any compatibility issues? A video like that would really be appreciated, cheers!

First ever review of a processor that will be very popular for years to come ^_^

We need a 13500 review 😎

Nice review, as always. I also heard some rumors about the i3-13300/F with 6 cores 12 threads. Perhaps you can do a video comparing that (when it got released of course) to the older 12400F? Should be interesting IMO, to see how far i3 has gone

@thefreemonk6938

Жыл бұрын

Is it for real?

@kynamthong7777

Жыл бұрын

@@thefreemonk6938 i'm not really sure since there's not much info about that (other than some stores in my country listed that CPU on their website early), but that rumour spread like wild fire in some local tech forums in my country

Nice video. Were you using windows 10 or 11?

hi, ive always wondered what do you do with the pcs and stuff you have? you have so many pcs built and ive always wondered what you do with them? love the channel ive watched bascially all your vids started with the budget gaming pc 150$

Great vid!!!

1440p videos are always a treat🙂

Thanks for the video, always nice to see tests of new hardware from you. Were there any problems with motherboard overheating and dropping cpu voltage? After all, there are no radiators on the vrm, and i5 is not as cold as i3, especially in rendering and 3d modeling scenarios.

@RandomGaminginHD

Жыл бұрын

No issues today :)

@mingyi456

Жыл бұрын

With an i5 k version or the i7, even the non k version, the vrm might start to overheat I guess, Hardware Unboxed has some benchmarks of motherboard vrms you can look at. Although none of them are of the h610, you can look at the b660 to see what kind of vrms are enough for an i5 vs i9 for example.

Love the vengeance lpx dram, a budget classic.

i've got the 12400F with a 3070Ti for my living room pc and that is bloody awesome. i have no doubt that the 13400F also is bloody awesome

That's not a bad little CPU at all, and if I was going for a more realistic/less extreme build, then I'd certainly consider this, as it seems to be more than adequate at pretty much anything.

I just got a pc with the regular 12gb 3060 and the i5 13400f, thank you for this video!

@ajax1472

3 ай бұрын

Wanna get the 13400f bit it is but is expensive, but great choice

@edwardwilliams5460

3 ай бұрын

The card tanks when nanite is on and ray trace but other than that the card performs well with the processor!!!

You should consider using Cinebench R23 when testing these newer CPUs, it's a better and more representative test for them than R20 :)

Thank you 🙂

Linus seemed to point out that the non-K SKUs of the 13th gen chips got a paper launch. Your review is the only one I have seen so far

I love how down to earth you are

thank u very much very helpful

I might buy the 13500 in the future for a production build.

Just assembled a budget-ish ITX build using this + a used kit of 32GB DDR5 5600m-t CL40 & a used 2070 Super that I re-pasted. So far it appears to be very good at 1080p!

Nice video as always! Just a tip..Try and adjust your FOV in MW2 as I'm sure nobody plays with the default FOV settings.

@theplayerofus319

Жыл бұрын

most play with normal fov ...

@JoeB69

Жыл бұрын

@The player of us most pc players? Would like to know where you get that information from?

@theplayerofus319

Жыл бұрын

@@JoeB69 can ask you the same damn thing with your statement 🤣, however i have common knowledge on my site. Adjusting settings is like oc your pc, most people just dont do it. They Set graphics to high or Medium and call it a day. Most are also no tryhards 🤷🏼‍♂️

@JoeB69

Жыл бұрын

@@theplayerofus319 It was literally such a big thing that you can't adjust your FOV on console, that they implement it on the next gen consoles. Maybe it's just me then, idk😅

I will be "upgrading" my Pentium G7400 to that i5 in the future. I won't be soon, as the price for that i5 13400 is a bit too high. But when it is the price of something like a i5 10400f, I will definitely get one.

In next video I would like to see Power Usage, because 12400f was super efficient chip for gaming and daily use.

excellent video 💘🔥🔥

Just built a build for a friend with a 12400f and 3060ti! Runs all games amazing.

@ezorist

Жыл бұрын

Wow

My man Steve never takes suggestions. Cinebench R23 mate !! Please

I know this doesnt really have anything to do with the video but I think it would be nice to add cpu wattage in your msi afterburner OSD. Since electricity prices are going up and sometimes when you compare amd to intel cpus you could see that intel uses way more or the other way around. I think it just would be some cool data

@tilapiadave3234

Жыл бұрын

RUBBISH ,, AMD uses way more electricity in REAL world. YES , the AMD shill lies are being exposed. Example AMD at idle 54 watts ,, intel at idle 9 watts. :)

i'd like to see your 10400 get in on this action.

Good vid mate! I do think you should add some ps3 emulation tests

I'm still oh so very happy with my i5 10600k + 3060 12GB thank you very much! :)

I still feel like a "budget" gamer but my specs are beyond budget and more into high end now. Started off with budget parts so maybe that's why! Great video and review as always!

could you please include cpu power draw in the msi afterburner overlay. other than that keep up the amazing videos

@carjunkyxl8018

Жыл бұрын

Was missing this as well.

I'm still very happy with the performance with my 12400 I had for 149usd at MC.

Thank you very muck mate. The 12400F is what I'll buy. Let''s hope the price goes down a little. Keep up the good work.

@RandomGaminginHD

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, and enjoy your new cpu!

its amazing that a budget cpu better then my i7 9700 its nice how budget gaming is alot more accessable now

would love the see the 13400 vs the 13500 since the 13500 has 8 e cores vs the 4 e cores on the 13400

I would love ❤ to see the i5-13500 compare$ as well with its additional e-cores 😱🤯🤔

Could you start including Warzone 2 in the benchmarks? Especially on CPU benchmarks since it's very CPU heavy compared to MW2 multiplayer.

i just got an i5 11400H my first ever intel pc bought it like 4 days ago gonna upgrade it today

Cool video idea would be to see if DDR5 matters on budget hardware or if it's worth it

@tilapiadave3234

Жыл бұрын

HOW MANY TIMES do you require that to be done? It is a moving target as DDR5 gets slowly cheaper and faster. I still do not see the extra money worthwhile but i do know that changes with every week that go's past

Gread video, it will be better if you could show the usage of P & E cores, so it will be clear if E cores is recognized and used properly by games

@MLWJ1993

Жыл бұрын

You typically don't see games allocating work to E-cores, at least not for primary game logic since those benefit from higher clockspeeds of the P-cores. In spiderman they're used for asynchronous tasks (like shader compilation) though so they're not entirely useless in gaming either.

A number of years back when I had more disposable income and was just getting into 3D rendering and occasional video work, I built an X58 based system with 6 sticks of memory, 3x water cooled GPUs and an i7 with 4 cores and 8 threads (was somewhat impressive for the time). Since I enjoyed the tinkering aspect and was having too much fun on ebay.. I went from the i7 930 to a used Xeon X5650 for the additional cores. Then, like a moron I thought "well if 6 cores is better than 4, how far can I push this?" and rebuilt around a Xeon e5-2692 v2, 12 cores and 24 threads.. I'd never seen so many threads in task manager and you bet it ripped through multithreaded workloads For somewhat modern comparison, the multithread score in Cinebench was about on par with a first gen Ryzen 1700, but was released ~3.5 years earlier. Gaming power demands have gone up significantly since then, but hobby rendering workloads not so much.. Sure you can render faster with high end stuff, but for a hobby you can just render overnight any big tasks and it's the general feel while working that matters most. For that, the 12400F is actually plenty powerful enough. With half the core count of the old Xeon it's still 30% faster in multi core workloads and single core is an utterly insane improvement I feel quite confident in saying the 12400F is the new Sandy Bridge.. I still have a 2500k that I threw together in a back room out of spare parts as a general office work machine but even today it's still snappy and surprisingly capable given how cheap they were when new. The 12400F is the same, remarkable performance for the price tag and likely enough to get by for many years to come. I already have a 3080 paired with mine and will likely upgrade the GPU once more before I even consider a new CPU

In CPU heavy workloads, will the VRM become an issue on such an low end board? Have you tested Prime95 for a couple of hours and check the VRM temp? I mean, this board doesn't even have a VRM heatsink!

If I understand the launch info correctly, the 13400F is just a tweaked 12th gen. Only some of the higher SKUs are actually new. Hence, the differences vs. a 12400F are likely minimal, though beyond that I wonder just how much the gain would be from either CPU over a 10400F. Hmm, an x400F generational roundup would be interesting to see the scaling, if any, between generations, as even today the 8400 is quite popular on ebay.

@anusmcgee4150

Жыл бұрын

Almost; the 13400 gets four E-cores. Essentially, you get a 12400 that gets to dedicate all of its P-cores to games.

@steph_on_yt

Жыл бұрын

The 13400 is essentially a 12600K with lower clocks. Consequently, the 13500 is just 13600K with lower clocks, which I honestly think is a better buy for only $20-30 more.

@tilburg8683

Жыл бұрын

Exactly it's a 12400 with higher base clocks, E cores (which Imo is a bad thing really unless you also do a lot of things besides gaming).

@kamiz0

Жыл бұрын

@@steph_on_yt 13500 is alder lake based, it does not have extra L2 cache that comes with raptor lake (13600k +)

@mapesdhs597

Жыл бұрын

@@anusmcgee4150 I meant the architecture, but yes there's changes to core counts, cache and the usual.

there are some great deals on 12400f + mobo atm. Defo would get one of those.

THANK YOU! Surprised this chip isn't getting more attention for PCtube

Just built my very first pc! I3 10300 and a rx 5600xt, I'm planning on upgrading the CPU at some point but for now it works good!

@RandomGaminginHD

Жыл бұрын

Awesome :)

@FunBunChuck

Жыл бұрын

@@RandomGaminginHD Did you see my comment a bit ago? I really am serious about selling my old system, if you're interested.

Here in Indonesia, 13500 is an Absolute Bang! Always sold out everywhere, and many Indonesian tech KZreadr always recommend it for a new builders out there. So for everyone here who wants to build a new desktop setup, i really recommend it!

I still use a i7 10750h laptop with a rtx2060. 1080p ultra mode with Forza Horizon 4 with the new engine update . Still runs the game over 117Fps and about 93fps low . Forza is really good with using your hardware . I will test forza 5 soon on that laptop.

Awesome! Now i know I don't need to upgrade my 12400F

It would have been good to compare it to the 13100F you reviewed a few days ago, rather than the 12400F. Will that be in a future video?

@Kraven83

Жыл бұрын

Let's hope so

This video was helpful in upgrading my roommate's PC from a 6600K to a 13400F. Not only does that old thing have 4 cores with no multithreading, but the highest memory frequency it supports is 2133. So my man's getting a pretty sizeable upgrade! The 12400F was about $20 cheaper, so it didn't make a whole lot of sense to not go for the 13 just to further future proof things by juuuuust that much. Didn't go with a K because it was about $50 more and he definitely won't need anything like that for enough time to go until the next full upgrade. CPU is still going to be more powerful than the 1080 he's got in there and when he does inevitably get a new GPU he's not the kind of guy who is going to be spending over $500 on one.

@unassailable6138

8 ай бұрын

6600k to 13400f is not an upgrade , it's a sidegrade, since you have to ditch your motherboard for lga12000

I've always been curious why you don't run a high end system, not that you need one at all I just couldn't help myself when I could afford a higher end machine haha (but damn did it take a long ass time to save for)

13400f is the same price as the 12600k in my region making it DOA but that being said, x400f chips do usually drop in price quickly

You should mention what operating system you use since windows 11 was made with Intel in mind. I don't think Linux or windows 10 can leverage the different core frequencies of the performance and efficiency cores, and would more than likely slow the system compared to previous gen CPU's.

The wind was uncooperative in that intro, repeatedly nudging the box and outing it as empty.

May I ask? I am using B460 + i5-10400, 32gb Ram 8x4 at 3200mhz but only running at 2666 because of B460, since upgrading to 3070Ti I have a feeling that my system has a bit of a bottleneck in some games, typical examples is forza 5, my GPU isn't working at full power ( just 70-80% and CPU at 70-90% ) and often drop fps when entering the city. So if I upgrade to B760 with i5-13400 or if possible I will spend more to get 13500 will the performance improve much? and swap to DDR5 Ram is it worth it? because my ram is also good type Corsair Veangence RS RGB

the performance is depressing in the US being $43 more expensive as someone wanting to upgrade from a 10100 I am 100% gonna go with the 12400/F just waiting a bit to see if the prices drop

The clock speeds were a bit odd, weren't they? Looking at skinflint, it's supposed to hit 4.6 ghz with turbo boost 2.0. I'm not very familiar with Intel, is that something you can only enable in more expensive motherboards?

@mikmoody3907

Жыл бұрын

I would like an answer to this question too as i am looking at buying this combo in a couple of weeks time.

GN & HuB Shouting out all the Steves!

the 13th gen intel chips are quite impressive, i recently upgraded from a 5800x to a i7 13700k. i know its not exactly budget but to me its a great example of how good intel is now days

@Bsc8

Жыл бұрын

I agree but i prefer to keep my r7-5800x rig cause i plan to upgrade again only when zen5/zen6 comes out on a better developed and cheaper ddr5+pcie5.0 platform in the future. I might consider going back to Intel (16th or 17th gen) who knows, whatever brand gives me the best bang for buck platform comes home with me! I'm not an AMD fanboy, in 2020-2021 when i made my current PC my parts where the best i can afford with my budget. The only upgrade i might do it's a 599€ card that makes me play 4k@144hz maxed out without the need of upscalers. Right now i'll enjoy my rx6750xt XFX Merc Black (599€ in June2022). Only with s.a.m. + undervolt and overclock (2823mhz) i have the same performance as a stock 3070ti 😎 Games arent getting more demanding yet and i never seen my "old" hardware struggle, no need to upgrade anytime soon 😎

@tyre1337

Жыл бұрын

too small upgrade

An interesting note about the 13400 and 13500, the 13400 is an ADL chip while the 13500 is RPL, aside from the clock/ecore differences I wonder how performance changes along with the slight tweaks that come with RPL (namely improved ecore/ring behavior and a stronger IMC)

@RicardoSilvaTripcall

Жыл бұрын

All chips below i5-13600k are ADL ...

400f series are something else.

Do you know if you can stream well on it while gaming, i really wanna get back into youtube streaming and the gaming is amazing but could it handle also streaming?

It would be nice to see RT performance on Spider Man since it's very cpu intensive.

Can you do a full test with the 4060 TI and i5 13400f?

My R9 5900HX with 3070 which I got early 2022 will keep me goin' for another year or two to come considering the market nowadays, ONLY then maybe it is sensible to consider an upgrade... It's about time to convert from Desktop to Laptop anyways since Laptops are getting much more powerful compared a decade ago or so... Cheers!! 🥃🥃🥃

Don't forget to mention that this cpu boost with the stock cooler only at 4100 MHz, which is terribly low, maybe also the cheap mobo is the root cause, but this cpu due OC3D could run at full load of P-Cores at 4600Mhz which is much better, we all await MSI B760 Max MORTAR which will have external clock grnerator and allows you to overclock non-K cpu via BCLK e.g. from 100MHz to 125MHz then we will see this cpu boosted around 5GHz at all P-Cores and that will be the real deal for us. Thanks for review!