The New Electric MINI Is a Game Changer, But It's Not Why You Think!

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  • @aeropoke26
    @aeropoke262 жыл бұрын

    I've had mine for about 8 months with a commute of 45mi each way. Range is spot on for my commute and I have a good buffer to get to/from. Mini's range is not over inflated. I've found it very reliable and usually get more than the stated EPA range. I'm fortunate to have free charging at work, and with Level 2 EV charging I'm at a full tank in about 4-5 hrs. Most of my miles have been F-R-E-E. The interior is very comfortable and my wife loves how fast the heated seats get up to temp. I would highly recommend the mini EV for someone with a commute of anything less than 100 mi. No more oil changes, no more gas pit stops, and a comfortable/fun ride to get you where you need to be.

  • @DracarysSnow

    @DracarysSnow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Do you live in a cold climate? I wonder how it would do in Canada.

  • @miken2054

    @miken2054

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DracarysSnow I live in the Pacific Northwest. We don’t get the extreme cold, so unfortunately I can’t comment on how it would do there. If you don’t have a long commute, or you will have the ability to top off at work like I do, then the short range is really a non issue for a daily commuter.

  • @DracarysSnow

    @DracarysSnow

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@miken2054 thanks! I’m in Canada… winters can be harsh so it’s something I’ll have to careful look at.

  • @channi58

    @channi58

    Жыл бұрын

    No gas pit stop lol. Instead a 4 to 5 hour recharge.

  • @JeLifeCoach

    @JeLifeCoach

    Жыл бұрын

    @@channi58 120 bucks a month of gas a month for a 5 year note is $6,000. ELectric companies offer free night between 8pm-6am. Car is charged fully over night for free and that 6K just bought my wife and I some new sofas & rugs!

  • @keithwells7892
    @keithwells78922 жыл бұрын

    Good review! I took the plunge last year and bought a Cooper SE, and I totally LOVE it....! In the "real world" it is fast..... (who really drives over 100 mph anyway?) In the city it is agile and feels great to drive. Couple of points I would make.... At first I too was worried about "range anxiety".... I do about 15,000 miles a year, but the number of days when I do much over 100 miles I can count on one hand, Rapid charging infrastructure here in the UK is now getting much better and 50kW chargers will get you to 80% in about 20 mins, but you MUST have at-home charging capability to make it work. The quoted range is VERY conservative and I can easily get 140 miles out of a charge if need be, and once got almost 160 miles being super careful. Weather makes a huge difference though, in winter with things like the aircon and heated seats on it drops dramatically. Worst range I have ever got was 110 miles. My advice is if you are thinking about going down the EV route take a test drive..... you will love it!

  • @dbajonr
    @dbajonr2 жыл бұрын

    When I did 0-60 tests with the SE in the different modes, the Sport mode was about 1 second quicker than Mid.

  • @usa-ev
    @usa-ev2 жыл бұрын

    We have a little Fiat 500e rated at 84 miles and love it! Don't let the short range scare you, but do be realistic about winter and all (about 25% drop in range). If it fits your driving needs these small EVs are a ton of fun!

  • @sharonbraselton3135

    @sharonbraselton3135

    Жыл бұрын

    Telsa cells 97 mioes tange

  • @osvaldovieira9451
    @osvaldovieira94512 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video! Bought a Cooper SE a month ago and absolutely love it! Range totally fits our needs and it's a lot of fun to drive.

  • @tubelessronniee
    @tubelessronniee2 жыл бұрын

    Nothing feels like driving a Mini it’s a unique feeling Period 😎 Peace

  • @eminiman4393
    @eminiman43932 жыл бұрын

    Tommy said, "On 110, this could take as much as a couple of days to fully charge." Potential customers, know that it takes only about 12 hours because most people don't use up 100% of the charge and then coast into their driveways.

  • @0ooGummies
    @0ooGummies2 жыл бұрын

    FYI that's Rebel Green not British Racing Green :)

  • @Jet_Pilot525
    @Jet_Pilot5252 жыл бұрын

    Another point in favor is the SE: when you price them out, the SE is only about $1000 more than an identically equipped gas Cooper S. And that’s without the tax incentives. You’ll easily make all that $1000 back in fuel and maintenance savings. I would just prefer closer to 150 miles range and a much much faster charger. And I’d like it in 4 door.

  • @rogermartinez78

    @rogermartinez78

    Жыл бұрын

    I hear you but I got one of these EV mini and I am loving it! To increase my range to over 150 I am doing some suspension modifications, rear seat delete, light weight Enkei wheels, that should increase range, I will keep you all posted.

  • @GATORADDAM
    @GATORADDAM2 жыл бұрын

    "Larger Big Mac individual"! I had to pause the video at that point, I was laughing so hard!

  • @ariv8585
    @ariv85852 жыл бұрын

    Rev hang occurs because of emissions regulations and occurs with all modern manual transmissions across all brands. To counter it, simply let off the gas right before you intend to clutch/shift.

  • @tubelessronniee

    @tubelessronniee

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you turn off traction control...the rev hang goes away....FYI 😃

  • @Its_Me0000
    @Its_Me00002 жыл бұрын

    Great job Tommy. Thank you so much.

  • @ianlove3
    @ianlove32 жыл бұрын

    Great vlog from the UK

  • @regsparkes6507

    @regsparkes6507

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not from the UK, but Colorado U.S.A. I know what you meant though Ian, this just shows that punctuation is important in comments, or your intent is lost, isn't it?

  • @katsnow9256
    @katsnow92562 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for review! Was looking online at these and my mom said we should get *that one* (SE model) *I'll drive it everywhere in town, I'll just give you my car*..................mom's car....that does 0 to 60 in like five or six minutes! (slaps forehead) lol

  • @spdrcerjt
    @spdrcerjt2 жыл бұрын

    Tommy, is the SE fun to drive? How is the handling? I know it's not "fast", but either is a Miata. Does it feel "quick" while in the seat?

  • @ericwanyonyi2445
    @ericwanyonyi24452 жыл бұрын

    I learnt my driving skills in a mini 850cc. It wasn't quick but very fun to drive

  • @Amberdogproductions
    @Amberdogproductions2 жыл бұрын

    For a throw back like Jeep does in many ways, Mini E should have placed 2 round reverse lights where the exhaust pipes have been.

  • @regsparkes6507
    @regsparkes65072 жыл бұрын

    My usual commute is around 225 km / 140 miles, so this is the range I need, however I'd like to have double than range for an E-car that I might buy. I have driven the E-Mini on a test drive and it is impressive as heck, but oh the range is ( oi was ) terribly low!

  • @mowcowbell

    @mowcowbell

    2 жыл бұрын

    Over 2 hours a day behind the wheel? Wow, I can't imagine that.

  • @ZorrillaJimenez

    @ZorrillaJimenez

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jesus.... You need a different commute

  • @regsparkes6507

    @regsparkes6507

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mowcowbell See my updated note above.

  • @regsparkes6507

    @regsparkes6507

    2 жыл бұрын

    See my update as above.

  • @minivanmaster

    @minivanmaster

    2 жыл бұрын

    How many miles were on your car before you retired?! Impressive. Hopefully it was a reliable one 😅

  • @GautamKumar-cr7tw
    @GautamKumar-cr7tw2 жыл бұрын

    I really liked your video when you first got the SE, but I think I’ll still have range anxiety. I have a 2015 Mini Cooper base, the tiny 1.5l 3 cyl and I love it. I just wish the SE had a 250miles+ range. I believe they will fix the small range in the next iteration.

  • @barrymcconnery401

    @barrymcconnery401

    Жыл бұрын

    The SE certainly is not a ski vehicle, unless you live on the hill. Good looking vehicles but give me the jcw to get to the ski hill! 8)

  • @cadriver2570
    @cadriver25702 жыл бұрын

    301 lbs more than a Cooper S. Great review!

  • @FuturePerfectContinuous
    @FuturePerfectContinuous2 жыл бұрын

    which color has the left one? British racing green? it looks very dark.

  • @spartanchirho
    @spartanchirho2 жыл бұрын

    Have Stig do some timed laps in it.

  • @silverf56
    @silverf562 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Also, the trim levels are: Cooper Cooper S Cooper SE JCW GP There is no "MINI Cooper S JCW" anymore. (And also no "MINI Cooper S JCW GP") It's just the "MINI Hardtop JCW" and "MINI GP" respectively. Something Randy at Motor Trend also gets wrong :)

  • @homejournalist

    @homejournalist

    2 жыл бұрын

    A JCW also. does not come in British Racing Green. The color he reviewed was Rebel Green.

  • @silverf56

    @silverf56

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@homejournalist finally someone else that knows a thing or two about MINI.

  • @fuhjrvr7474
    @fuhjrvr74742 жыл бұрын

    I have a cooper s and with just chancing the suspension makes it faster prolly will do a remap and most likely faster then a jcw by a car or 2 cars. I hope but i have a good feeling bout it and it’s cheaper

  • @namekonnf8282
    @namekonnf82822 жыл бұрын

    2:35 you don't hang your charge cap like that. RIP paint

  • @L0000NEY
    @L0000NEY6 ай бұрын

    Missed opportunity for a drag race here :(

  • @michaelswick4251
    @michaelswick42512 жыл бұрын

    In PA we still live on dinosaur rocks for electricity mostly. Not sure wether electric is better or worse because of the way it’s generated where I live

  • @jeffruebens8355
    @jeffruebens83552 жыл бұрын

    The Mini gasoline engines are known for being very unreliable. The cord to charge an all electric is more of a hassle, and it makes a lot more sense if your work includes a charger for free at their parking lot, and you rent a car with a lot more range for longer trips.

  • @RR-ew3nn

    @RR-ew3nn

    2 жыл бұрын

    Newer mini generations 2014 to present have made substantial improvements and virtually hassle free/problem free now

  • @DracarysSnow

    @DracarysSnow

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RR-ew3nnreally? That would be awesome as all I see to watch/ read is basically “ don’t do it!”

  • @stephanledford9792

    @stephanledford9792

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2018 Mini Cooper convertible and starting in 2016 the Consumer Reports reliability ratings moved from mostly red (bad) to mostly green (good). I have had no issues at all. My question regarding the Cooper SE is whether it is upgradeable once solid-state batteries are available, since the solid-state batteries may double the range.

  • @4KUltrawideBenchmarks
    @4KUltrawideBenchmarks2 жыл бұрын

    Isn't that the rebel green JCW?

  • @usa-ev
    @usa-ev2 жыл бұрын

    Hey, Tommy, my little Fiat 500e got 5.5 mi/KW on a little intercity jaunt today. What does SE get? :)

  • @sciencedadusa4706

    @sciencedadusa4706

    2 жыл бұрын

    5.6 to 5.8 m/kWh around Washington DC about the same time as your drive.

  • @noneofyourbuisness7
    @noneofyourbuisness72 жыл бұрын

    If you can take advantage of the tax credits and you're looking for a cheap second car for commuting. its an option worth looking into honestly. For basically the cost of a well equipped Toyota Corolla or Civic you're getting a car that's way more fun to commute in (in my opinion) and significantly cheaper to operate and maintain in the process.

  • @sharonbraselton3135

    @sharonbraselton3135

    Жыл бұрын

    Civic carol hybrid cheapnstbknmmarket

  • @TheBeatenPaths
    @TheBeatenPaths2 жыл бұрын

    In this day & age, I don't find either of those prices exorbitant.

  • @pambritz3166
    @pambritz31662 жыл бұрын

    Tommy, looking at Signature or Signature Plus for the SE. The Signature has 16 in wheels and no moon roof. If I go to Sig + I get moon roof and 17 inch tires. How does 16 in vs 17 in work? Will the car handle differently or have more or less road noise inside?

  • @zhaostephen5800

    @zhaostephen5800

    2 жыл бұрын

    Will the weight saved in 16 in wheel and without glass roof get better range?

  • @mobgma
    @mobgma2 жыл бұрын

    hey TFLnow - random thought, lets rethink EV trucks and future EV RV's. what if RVs and trailers came with optional massive battery pack (platform/skateboard) that could act as a range extender for your future EV tow rig and/or could also power the RV when parked? you guys have big connections in the truck world. time to send some emails to these guys and tell them to start working with the RV companies maybe. range anxiety in the future potentially solved.

  • @sharonbraselton3135

    @sharonbraselton3135

    Жыл бұрын

    The do 20 Kew top 80 kw 120 Kew to 2.40 kw

  • @GabrielGalvan
    @GabrielGalvan2 жыл бұрын

    The JCW's correct name is "MINI John Cooper Works" not "MINI Cooper" as that is a different model car. Same goes with the "MINI John Cooper Works GP" I love the channel...good job guys 🙌🏻

  • @SWR112
    @SWR1122 жыл бұрын

    Ok he may not be used to what Americans call stick shift or here in the U.K. a manual. His gear change is tragic shown as someone not really in tune with using the box smoothly. He does know the engine Rev matches right automatically? 😁 taking a SE up against a petrol S but a Works is a big ask.

  • @MyBrilliantChannel
    @MyBrilliantChannel2 жыл бұрын

    These aren't Minis these are huge!!!

  • @jdear97
    @jdear972 жыл бұрын

    I guarantee that the electric will be much more reliable.

  • @peterbrown4042
    @peterbrown40422 жыл бұрын

    "larger, Big Mac kind of individual" hahaha

  • @BartholomewCounty
    @BartholomewCounty2 жыл бұрын

    In 20 years there will only be 10% of current gasoline/diesel filling station in the US. This transition is happening and there is nothing you can do about it. I remember when we transitioned from regular gas to unleaded in 1975. By 1985 is was nearly impossible to find regular gas for your older automobile. What's the difference? Cars build after 1975 had catalytic converters and hardened valve seats. If you run unleaded gas in a car built before 1975 it is very likely you will have to have the heads redone about 4-5 times more often than if you could still find regular leaded gas.

  • @VCR1117
    @VCR11172 жыл бұрын

    This is a nice car, unfortunately the low range will be its biggest problem. Batteries age and give less range the older they get…. With an already low range yea….

  • @aggiewoodie

    @aggiewoodie

    2 жыл бұрын

    Definitely meant to be a “city car.”

  • @txvet7738
    @txvet77382 жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna pick the EV JCW model, now that would be cool!!

  • @ulverop
    @ulverop2 жыл бұрын

    Other markets can also choose a diesel for a lot of cars. Mini doesn't offer diesels any more though (not in Norway at least).

  • @mattheath7163
    @mattheath71632 жыл бұрын

    Not sure why you didn't compare a Mini Cooper SE against a Cooper S instead of comparing it to a JCW

  • @waynearnold1072
    @waynearnold10722 жыл бұрын

    Which one should you get? For me, there is no question at all. The combustion Mini every time. Just this week, I was asked to pick up my buddy and his wife at the airport in Nashville. Being that I live out in the county, we never would have been able to make that trip on a single charge. I took my wife's 2021 Toyota Sienna which is a hybrid getting 36 miles to the gallon. That gives you piece of mind knowing you have the best of both technologies. Too bad, there is no hybrid Mini. Seems properly designed, it could get well over 40 maybe 50 miles to the gallon with mega range. That would be a car worth considering.

  • @d2mini

    @d2mini

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Countryman now comes in a hybrid.

  • @rzu7120
    @rzu71202 жыл бұрын

    Cue the Luddites.

  • @shorey66
    @shorey66 Жыл бұрын

    Doesn't have shove from a standstill, uh are you sure mate? It's quicker to 40mph than most ICE cars including the JCW

  • @amazingjason455
    @amazingjason4552 жыл бұрын

    Where can I get one of those bacon TFL shirts?

  • @shitloveaduck

    @shitloveaduck

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tire tracks actually. Bacon would be better!! Haha. Awwww crap,,,, now I want some bacon,,,,,.

  • @sharonbraselton3135

    @sharonbraselton3135

    Жыл бұрын

    Get bmwmoni ca ac ponce plus dhiirt

  • @sharonbraselton3135

    @sharonbraselton3135

    Жыл бұрын

    And a bacon cheese burger

  • @BackToWar100
    @BackToWar1002 жыл бұрын

    STI TYPE R ?

  • @pernell4351
    @pernell43512 жыл бұрын

    Sorry I take the gas not enough charging stations in USA

  • @phileasler5401
    @phileasler54012 жыл бұрын

    My vote is electric!!

  • @MrMarkusmulder
    @MrMarkusmulder2 жыл бұрын

    Just like uncle Rich Rebuild's

  • @WW-wf8tu
    @WW-wf8tu2 жыл бұрын

    The EV Mini is the 1st Mini I would consider buying. So they upped their appeal.

  • @macloveemail
    @macloveemail2 жыл бұрын

    GTI..... or GT or RT or SS

  • @Stackali
    @Stackali2 жыл бұрын

    they didn't rip out the gas motor. they just put an electric one in.

  • @eminiman4393

    @eminiman4393

    2 жыл бұрын

    In fact, to simplify assembly, the electric motor and inverter are contained in a tubular frame that attaches to the same engine mounts as the ICE.

  • @malcolmscott4150
    @malcolmscott41502 жыл бұрын

    Great insight as most fan boys praise dynamics but they are insular and bmw engines lack innovation as original minis were 850 -1275cc and now 1.5 to 2 litre - and no hydrolastic suspension etc that made original so much fun - sadly now an overpriced bloated small inside niche car

  • @OMDF01

    @OMDF01

    2 жыл бұрын

    Must be a fan of Jethro Tull’s “Living In The Past”: “[…] I’m happy, and smilin’… Let’s go… living… in the past…” (!!!). 🙄

  • @betzy7560
    @betzy75602 жыл бұрын

    Do u have to charge it every night? What if I’m visiting people out in the neck of the woods

  • @pachy444

    @pachy444

    2 ай бұрын

    Sounds like you should keep your gas car if you have to ask such vague questions.... How far away are they... Do they have electricity.....

  • @doneB830
    @doneB830 Жыл бұрын

    Rebel green.

  • @fredv7487
    @fredv74872 жыл бұрын

    So what's the price to replace the battery.

  • @kman0074

    @kman0074

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’d guess $8k. My Tesla is a $20k replacement but three times as large. You can also have individual cells replaced if you find a shop that will do it and that’s going to be way cheaper.

  • @fredv7487

    @fredv7487

    2 жыл бұрын

    So does this make it cheaper and better. Instead of maintenance spread out you get it all at once. 20k isn't that about a quarter of the cost of the car.

  • @sciencedadusa4706
    @sciencedadusa47062 жыл бұрын

    So comparing an electric to ICE Cooper S check this out. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eGaVpMl-fMfIpJs.html 0-60 if you brake+accelerator “launch” in sport mode, I consistently get 6.5 +/- 0.1. Which others online get as well. I have seen a 6.3 posted… I am fine with a “slow” 93 mph top end when I can take 15 mph S-curves at significantly over the posted speed (when it is safe to do so). Range: winter summer heat pump on to 67F/72F and 100% charge driving in Green mode; 125 on the guessometer. Spring fall w/o heat pump, 100% charge driving in Green+; 145 on guessometer. I drive 70 mph only a short distance, usually 65. Usually do 110ish with 20% left pulling into charger or driveway. iOS a fantastic rally or auto cross driving car, not a muscle/drag racing car… which is exactly what it was used for soon after it’s launch and for over 50 years. Similarly, it is not a point and drive plush and loping mid-size cross country touring car. Buy what you intend to use.

  • @homejournalist
    @homejournalist2 жыл бұрын

    Petrol Minis can be pricey but you're getting a unique car with luxury options for that money. It really can't be compared to other cars, in my opinion. At over age 40, a Hundayai or VW sport is not for me. They feel more like a young single person's car. All engine, less creature comforts.

  • @ArcaneCowboy
    @ArcaneCowboy2 жыл бұрын

    130 miles on a "tank"? That's useless in the US market. Are these selling anywhere? Does that work in Europe?

  • @BaracW
    @BaracW2 жыл бұрын

    I'm first, for the first time. Nice video.

  • @mav4516

    @mav4516

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well that's a "first"

  • @mbiker345
    @mbiker3452 жыл бұрын

    I like that electric one alot. I want an electric car (leaf) for putting around town. BUT there are still some major issues that the EV ppl tend to ignore. Power grid is unreliable. Look at California right now and every summer. they have rolling black outs every year. I LOVE the lack of maintenance and moving parts to fail on EV but the battery packs can lose a single cell and rather than replace it, nope you have to replace the entire battery pack. That is not eco despite the EV fans wishes. I think if they can make the battery packs serviceable, have better in home power generation this would be an amazing thing. Well, and fix the charge times. no matter how much the ev fans say its not a big deal, it is. Hours compared to minutes is HUGE. it needs to be better.

  • @mowcowbell

    @mowcowbell

    2 жыл бұрын

    The charge time is seconds... plug it in, wake up to a fully charged vehicle. Just like any smartphone.

  • @coreyallen1090

    @coreyallen1090

    2 жыл бұрын

    I live in so Cal and been driving my Bolt the past three years and 82k miles..... Not a single blackout. The Bolts 160-220 Miles range is much better than this Cooper. My only issue is battery degradation over time. If you have miles to spare not so big of an issue though.

  • @wzDH106

    @wzDH106

    2 жыл бұрын

    The California blackouts are predominantly fire preventive measures. The one I experience, while there, gave the residents well over a day to prepare before flipping the switch. California should be the exception, not the rule. A state with an incredible amount of daytime solar energy, more than can be used or stored at present. They're playing catch-up to store such energy. Give it time. The remainder of the Pacific Northwest, also with high EV adoption, doesn't have a problem. With the mass quantity of hydroelectric, other renewables and nuclear, the grid remains relatively clean and very reliable. ..... until the entire Western U.S. becomes a desert (fingers crossed it doesn't). But that's another story.

  • @ranig2848

    @ranig2848

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gas stations are also shut down on power outages - they also run on electricity. So, blackouts are an issue for everyone. If you have solar (which is now cheaper than grid power) you can also charge off solar - so impact is even less significant. As for reliability - In the last 2-3 years, EVs have shown to be more reliable than gas cars. Less moving parts, less wear on the brakes, no clutch, no oil changes... realistically, beyond windshield wipers and tires, they don't really need maintenance. The myth that EVs need more maintenance is - a myth (and part of the reason most dealerships avoid selling EVs since they know their service, which is their main $$$ makes, will be impacted considerably).

  • @oraleholmes1263
    @oraleholmes1263 Жыл бұрын

    Never get the mini gas..so many issue lets not talk about the trash transmission haha

  • @davva360
    @davva3602 жыл бұрын

    If they brought an EV version with a bigger capacity battery I would be interested. Yes 114 miles is enough 99 days out of 100 but it would be a nightmare to try to road trip it in America. If you have 80 miles between chargers you are ok but if something is wrong with the charger when you get there you are quite likely screwed. The answer of course is a Mini EV for day to day and keep another ICE vehicle for longer trips.

  • @sharonbraselton3135

    @sharonbraselton3135

    Жыл бұрын

    Get tela cels. 131. Mile range

  • @Natethegreat200c
    @Natethegreat200c2 жыл бұрын

    Gas.

  • @hereigoagain5050
    @hereigoagain50502 жыл бұрын

    SE gets a one hulu-girl rating :)

  • @richrigney4610
    @richrigney46102 жыл бұрын

    Let's face it, the Mini SE is nothing but a city car. No matter what else you factor in, the range of only 114 miles is basically worthless when it comes to long trips or even day long trips across the state or across state lines (Colorado into Utah) because the number and length of stops to charge would not be reasonable. Assuming someone qualifies for the full $7,500 Federal Tax Credit means they have a lot of taxable income and would be able to afford something with more range if going EV.

  • @sharonbraselton3135

    @sharonbraselton3135

    Жыл бұрын

    Getters cels 131 mile range

  • @rose415
    @rose4152 жыл бұрын

    does the EV mini battery get charged to 80% and still gets 114 mile range?

  • @christophersullivan6405

    @christophersullivan6405

    2 жыл бұрын

    Charge to a 100%. Mini built in the buffer and want you go to "100"

  • @chillis28
    @chillis282 жыл бұрын

    👍👍

  • @Stackali
    @Stackali2 жыл бұрын

    well of course an electric motor is more reliable than a bmw engine.

  • @krasnaludek298

    @krasnaludek298

    2 жыл бұрын

    All joking aside … the BMW inline 6 engines are known for being very durable here in Europe. Far more than anything from Korea, France, & even some Japanese marks like Subaru, Mitsu, & Suzuki.

  • @caden3226

    @caden3226

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@krasnaludek298 very true my moms 535i has been through hell and is still going strong reaching 100k miles

  • @xuhan4682
    @xuhan46822 жыл бұрын

    The interior squeaks. The window squeaks. So not that luxurious

  • @sayit1196
    @sayit11962 жыл бұрын

    more reliable xD unless a new battery hits the market and your car becomes worthless xD

  • @greenshield1
    @greenshield12 жыл бұрын

    Wait for the hydrogen driven via Hydrogen film or Disc.

  • @-redtango
    @-redtango2 жыл бұрын

    The problem with the electric cars is that after 5-6 years you will have lost half of your range.. even with batterie replacement under warranty its still not a fun thing to purchase in the used market

  • @colinharvey1049

    @colinharvey1049

    2 жыл бұрын

    According to Mini USA battery warranty would give a new one if it reduced to less than 70% in 8 years, so they must be pretty confident that what you suggest won’t happen.

  • @ranig2848

    @ranig2848

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is only true for the Leaf which was air cooled. There are Teslas with over 300,000 miles (and >8 years) that still retain over 90% of the capacity, and quite a few other electric cars that are over 8 years old and also retain over 80% of the range. Furthermore, latest Tesla batteries can do over 500,000 miles, and with

  • @cadriver2570

    @cadriver2570

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is 100% false. After 6 years it's around 10% loss, and the Nissan Leaf's poor track record is the reason it's even that bad. Check out Geotab for more info.

  • @cadriver2570

    @cadriver2570

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@colinharvey1049 that's the US mandated minimum warranty for every single EV.

  • @arun5132
    @arun51322 жыл бұрын

    I THINK THAT IS "REBEL GREEN" and NOT "BRITISH RACING GREEN"

  • @coreyallen1090
    @coreyallen10902 жыл бұрын

    EV all the way unless you are wanting the fun and performance. Especially if you're plugging in at night at home. $5 a gallon here in California, it's a no brainer. Still not as quick as the Bolt in sport mode 😁

  • @greenshield1

    @greenshield1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Electricity in California can be a little fickle now, whats it going to be like with even half the population driving EV's?

  • @coreyallen1090

    @coreyallen1090

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@greenshield1 Been three years and 82k miles for me and not one electric charging issue

  • @greenshield1

    @greenshield1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@coreyallen1090 Thats great, what happens when the battery warranty expires? Whos going to want the now almost worthless car? it will then be more cost effective to just buy another car. to each there own and I like the idea of EV but they just arent there for me. I keep my vehicles a very long time and put several hundred thousand on them. I haul, tow, and travel long distances as well. Id have 100k on a vehicle in a few years, easily. 3 out of my 4 vehicles have all over 200k and yes parts have broken or wore out but I was able to replace them myself and I am no mechanic. My 2013 F350 with 210K on it ( Diesel) is still worth 25k, maybe more to the right buyer. It still has double its current mileage left, with ease.

  • @coreyallen1090

    @coreyallen1090

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@greenshield1 I hear ya but I think it's still too early to judge EV's like that and just assume. Batteries/cells can be replaced and with all the money saved with maintenance over 200k+ miles it would make the cost of cell replacements a little more understanding. Think gas prices will continue to rise?

  • @wzDH106

    @wzDH106

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@greenshield1 Same logic applies to ALL warranties, gas or electric. The question "what if" will be expensive. Especially for those vehicles built to tow. Transmissions are far from affordable, an engine teardown or crate swap could be thousands my friend. So while those 20 or 30 year wonder vehicles do exist, the downstream maintenance expenses are there, and far from affordable for the 300,000,000+ million of us in North America. On average, what is the average life expectancy of a modern car? 12 years? I bet this vehicle, and others, will meet or surpass such.

  • @n7eet
    @n7eet2 жыл бұрын

    Actually In the longrun you would def need to replace batteries... The batteries on the ICE are about 80 bucks... While on the EV are 5000 to 7000 plus labor...

  • @FullSpectrumWarrior
    @FullSpectrumWarrior2 жыл бұрын

    Nah those tax credits need to be included in the price at the time of purchase. Otherwise still 30k

  • @markwilliams5654
    @markwilliams56542 жыл бұрын

    Brakes go rusty and suspension wears out and it eats tyre's because of torque be more honest

  • @wzDH106

    @wzDH106

    2 жыл бұрын

    Between a Volt and e-Niro. The Volt never showed rust in Minnesota or Washington. After 6 years and 60,000 miles the rotors still look new. The e-Niro shows little to no rust. Not enough to notice or inhibit emergency braking. Tires? Sure. But based on the torque figures and driving I just witnessed of the gasoline Mini, they're not going to last either. Someone who constantly rips off the line, or takes corners hot will pay for it, regardless of fuel type. Suspension? You lost me there. Can't be any worse over the gasoline counterpart.

  • @doneB830
    @doneB830 Жыл бұрын

    Electric will have suspension problems because of weight.

  • @patriklehto6011
    @patriklehto60112 жыл бұрын

    Hmm! Sorry But Wrong Channel And Wright Thinks. Minis

  • @BobK5
    @BobK52 жыл бұрын

    I test drove a mini EV and really liked it, I had the brake regen on but would like to try it turned off. The salesman said it would cost something like £1500 to install a charger. Once everyone is converted bullied into electric you’ll find electricity prices going through the roof which will affect your TV and toaster! Electricity will be a sitting duck for the government and greedy energy companies to pile on the increases, so yes buy electric now but don’t expect cheap electric to last for much longer. The other main issue not mentioned is resale. The batteries last around 10 years if you’re lucky. You buy one and drive it for 3 years and want to get a new one because the battery efficiency has dropped, who is going to want to pay top dollar on a car that has decreasing efficiency and only a maximum of 7 years life left? EV’s are a concept that have been forced into the public arena before they’re ready and for that reason I’m out!

  • @larry1873
    @larry18732 жыл бұрын

    No good

  • @cuuppaajoe
    @cuuppaajoe2 жыл бұрын

    You’re American. It’s not properly quick. It’s very quick. lol

  • @aarongrisham5555
    @aarongrisham55552 жыл бұрын

    JCW is faster than a GTI. Lol even the Cooper S is. Bye

  • @mortgagemartin3987
    @mortgagemartin39872 жыл бұрын

    EV all the way.

  • @karlsmith2570
    @karlsmith25702 жыл бұрын

    I'd take the JCW version of the Mini, avoid the electric Mini at all costs

  • @GARGONDIZZA1
    @GARGONDIZZA12 жыл бұрын

    Limited range is a joke

  • @namekonnf8282

    @namekonnf8282

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unlimited range is a joke

  • @ArcaneCowboy
    @ArcaneCowboy2 жыл бұрын

    "Kinda soulless..." WTF are you on about?

  • @jaredstephenson6468
    @jaredstephenson64682 жыл бұрын

    Did Tommy just assume that all bigger people eat fast food? Come on, man. You're better than that.

  • @TFLnow

    @TFLnow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Love the righteous indignation over a silly joke. Come on man. You’re better than that.

  • @jaredstephenson6468

    @jaredstephenson6468

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TFLnow That's a pretty insensitive response.

  • @louarmstrong6128

    @louarmstrong6128

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TFLnow you've hurt his feelings

  • @greenshield1
    @greenshield12 жыл бұрын

    8 years and the battery is toast and car totaled due to it.

  • @aggiewoodie

    @aggiewoodie

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tesla batteries have been known to last 10+ years with 80%+ capacity remaining.

  • @TFLnow

    @TFLnow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same thing happens with transmissions and turbos and valves and torque converters.

  • @greenshield1

    @greenshield1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TFLnow manuals not as much, turbos and other parts are much cheaper to replace than a battery and can be done by many people themselves.

  • @greenshield1

    @greenshield1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Which 8 year old car will have more value at the same millage? 8 years is what most batteries are warranteed for.

  • @greenshield1

    @greenshield1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@aggiewoodie while others last 7. Of you can find a used one with a replaced battery not long before the 8 year warranty, you have a gem. If you are at 8 plus years, you are rolling the dice everytime you drive it. New battery pack is 17k

  • @markwilliams5654
    @markwilliams56542 жыл бұрын

    Changes the game by being the worst ev you can buy .....you only got it because of tax credits how lame

  • @TFLnow

    @TFLnow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nope, we love the car. Most fun EV you can buy today.

  • @ittybitbobo7657
    @ittybitbobo76572 жыл бұрын

    I'll never own an electric car. Its all bs

  • @rl-cr6ve

    @rl-cr6ve

    2 жыл бұрын

    Please explain, I'm intrigued

  • @Welcometofacsistube
    @Welcometofacsistube2 жыл бұрын

    Moot video. Ev's are a fad The ICE isn't going anywhere anytime soon

  • @mowcowbell

    @mowcowbell

    2 жыл бұрын

    And yet here you are watching it. Been driving an EV for 2 years, it is quite reliable and useful for my daily driving. I don't have to be concerned about up & down gas prices, or some random oil tanker issue causing a market panic.

  • @aggiewoodie

    @aggiewoodie

    2 жыл бұрын

    Governments around the world are implementing outright bans on ICE cars…

  • @mowcowbell

    @mowcowbell

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@aggiewoodie And those are countries best suited for EV use... Norway comes to mind.

  • @TFLnow

    @TFLnow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Moot comment. EV are here and gaining market share. You’ll be driving one soon enough….or there’s always walking.

  • @cadriver2570

    @cadriver2570

    2 жыл бұрын

    EVs are not a fad. VW/Audi are phasing out combustion this decade, as are many others.

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