14900k attached to a single 120mm AIO. There’s no way this thing isn’t throttling.

@Varrisk_Khanaar

21 күн бұрын

I think der8auer's review nails the problem with this case.

@Earth-Apple

21 күн бұрын

It's a slim fan too, not full size.

@EthanBB

21 күн бұрын

It is, Corsair is fudging things by setting TDP limit in BIOS to "not throttle" ... but Labs team is too dumb to notice.

@CricketEngland

21 күн бұрын

At nearly £5000 throttling ain’t the worst thing you should be worrying about

@thunderarch5951

21 күн бұрын

​@@EthanBB yeah, this thing struggles with a 420mm aio, lmao The 14900k is also the dumbest CPU to buy when you can get a 14700k for way less, or you know, just buy a 7950x and save money on cooling and a proper case to house that cooling

120mm AIO on a 14900k. Bruh, what in the Alienware is this?

@drew2626

21 күн бұрын

😂

@sihamhamda47

20 күн бұрын

If they rethink their last minute decision and changing it to AM5 motherboard + Ryzen 7800X3D + 240mm AIO it would make more sense. 7800X3D delivers almost similar performance in gaming with 50% less power consumption than 14900k and runs much cooler

@music_kun69420

18 күн бұрын

its so dumb because if they swapped the cpu and gpu aio, it would be fine due to the gpu not having to worry about throttling as much

@drew2626

18 күн бұрын

@@music_kun69420 I think you meant CPU not worrying about throttling

@music_kun69420

16 күн бұрын

@@drew2626 the 40 series cards come shipped with aircoolers that are overkill for it, so a 120 mil rad would be fine on it too. at 8:20 you can see that the gpu has much more thermal headroom (though with the 240 mil)

They've def lost the plot with this design by making it so big, they def crippled it thermally by giving it a 14900k

@toseltreps1101

20 күн бұрын

def u say? def.

120mm AIO for a high end CPU is disappointing to me for such a normal sized case.

@Collin_J

21 күн бұрын

I don't get it. Did the case designers ever talk to the team planning components and cooling? It's overpriced and underperforming

@drew2626

21 күн бұрын

@@Collin_J would be much better with an air cooled GPU and 360 AIO for CPU

@profosist

20 күн бұрын

@@Collin_J they did a better job in the past but all that custom stuff costs WAY more $$$ to design, develop, and produce.

Too big. Too expensive. Too hot.

@user-ds8rj2vc4v

20 күн бұрын

Yeah, the Corsair One had a premium because of the small form factor. This has lost that key selling point. Now it's just a generic ITX case with an even higher premium.

@Geggo1611

18 күн бұрын

Too wood

It's not even that small. Der8auer's one came with all sorts of issues.

@hammerth1421

21 күн бұрын

He also got a super early version that had no fan curves installed yet, but yes, the entire concept of the machine is flawed. You can't adequately cool an Intel i9 with a 120 mm AIO if you're actually stressing it out and not just doing some heavily GPU-bound gaming like F1 in 4K. The GPU VRMs are without any active cooling as well, just passively cooled by what is effectively a case fan. Not good at all.

21 күн бұрын

@@hammerth1421 A fan blowing on the VRMs is still active cooling tho, passive cooling is no fans.

@tim3172

21 күн бұрын

@@hammerth1421 "Just passively cooled... case fan." Is this some kind of satire?

@DuyLeNguyen

21 күн бұрын

@@tim3172 Based on the teardown in Debauer's video, the graphics card does not have any heatsink or heatspreaders on the VRMs. Just bare mosfets. The case fan is mounted on the lower right side of the side panel, blow air into the lower cavity of the case. It's not especially targeted or pointed towards the mosfets, just doing the equivalent job of front panel fans on a conventional tower. In this case, I would think describing the GPU VRMs as 'being passively cooled' is an appropriate desctiption, since the entire left hand side bank of VRM is quite far away from the fan, and is effectively just cooled by whatever overall ventilation in the lower chamber that the side panel fan could provide. You can see the rather bare looking PCB in this video at about 5:06 minute in

I really, really wish Corsair would just sell the case for the One. It’s a really cool form factor but there’s no way I’m paying what they want for a pre built one.

Hmm 120mm fan for a 14900k I wonder what the price is.. Totally decent surely 💀

Don't buy the Alienware. Or this one. But especially not the Alienware.

@teimuraztavberidze

21 күн бұрын

fr

@heavyd9949

21 күн бұрын

Why?

@Carahan

21 күн бұрын

@@heavyd9949 Cooling so insufficient that it runs like a 14700k. Just buy a 14700k and save yourself hundreds of $s.

@chemjam92

21 күн бұрын

Buy the Packard Bell!

@CricketEngland

21 күн бұрын

Buy a Commodore 64

This price is laughable, @$3850 and they had room for 240 for the CPU, and didn't use it, if you add up everything, the cost doesn't represent the sum of its parts.

@thunderarch5951

21 күн бұрын

Even if they did, you can't possibly think to cool a 14900k with s 240mm If you notice, the CPU is bios limited, power limit is set at 200w, CPU package is 211w, under cinebench, where this CPU can easily deal close to 400w under all core load

@Victicat

21 күн бұрын

@@thunderarch5951 technically if they use a thick rad and thicker fans, its possible, still a pretty terrible design choice

@tim3172

21 күн бұрын

@@thunderarch5951 Intel spec for this is 125 watts PL1 (what Corsair sets to 200) and 253 for PL2, which isn't shown. It *can* draw 400 watts, which is why the CPUs are having stability problems: too much power causes silicon degradation.

@sadmanh0

21 күн бұрын

you're paying for that custom case

The Corsair One before this one was innovative, had very nice engineering, chuck full of custom parts. This one is not even the shadow of what the old one was.

@tim3172

21 күн бұрын

The Corsair One before this was a complete maintenance and repair nightmare. I'm baffled as to how anyone could consider proprietary parts a good thing(?).

Watching this compared to the der bauer video is quite the difference.

@limkloosterboer

21 күн бұрын

Because LMG needs their sponsorships

@thunderarch5951

21 күн бұрын

Yeah, blatant sponsorship, labs didn't even realize this thing isn't thermal throttling cause is bios limited, lol A 14900k struggles with a 420mm aio in an airflow case, let alone with a 120mm aio in a coffin like this Also, this PC is made for AI work according to Corsair. I'm pretty sure anyone with at least a 5000-6000 budget to work with Ai won't even think about buying a 14900k and a 4090, lmao

@hra4242

21 күн бұрын

LOL Not again.....

@metallurgico

21 күн бұрын

@@limkloosterboer Because Plouffe isn't Roman.

@96Sheen

21 күн бұрын

Yeah Roman is literally one of the best overclockers on the planet and an electric engineer… I like plouffe for entertainment a lot though

Quiet the different review compared to DerBauer 😅

@LordManhattan

21 күн бұрын

This is sponsored

@BigT87

21 күн бұрын

@@LordManhattan yeah, by Secret Lab...

@BigT87

21 күн бұрын

yeah, one is one of the best overclockers on the planet and a mechatronics engineer. the other is Plouffe...

@WansVids

20 күн бұрын

ShortCircuit is more of an unboxing/first-look kinda channel. It always seemed kinda pointless to me.

Lol, it's actually an Nanuk case. It's an made-in-Canada alternative to Pelican, they have some interesting cases that LTT might want to check out.

Nice looking closet

Looks like a station wagon we had, growing up in the ‘70s.

That should be called the Corsair 2, it's twice the thickness

There is no way I'd want this with a 14900k....if it's going to be for gaming, it doesn't even make sense to go with Intel at this point. They run too hot, they use too much power, they now have degradation and stability concerns (so, did you check the bios?)...hell, honestly, unless the productivity aspects are your bread and butter, I'd just prefer to have a 7800x3d. It's not going to be a beast in productivity, but it's going be good enough for most people tbh.

@danieloberhofer9035

21 күн бұрын

Don't worry about CPU degradation and instability with this system - Corsair limits the CPU to 240W PL2. They already can't cool it at that wattage with a flimsy 120mm rad and low profile fans, anyway. They just don't tell you, because "optimized performance" (just downward) and "sophisticated cooling" (true, just still woefully inadequate) sounds so much better. That whole system is a joke, and the ridiculous price is just icing on the cake.

Title: bigger, better, and expensive Me: That's what she said

@user-zb9wj7gm5m

21 күн бұрын

U have a spelling mistake bro😂

120mm aio on a 14900k.?! Did corsair hire Alienware staff for this?.

I love how case manufacturers are starting to use wood in their cases, it's so much easier to create a clean aesthetic in your desk space

At this point they should be selling those as a PC case or bare bone, since it seems it is gonna be compatible with standard PC parts. Also, it seems like "vertical" design like old Silver stone FT03 mini or Hyte Revolt 3 would work better for case like this.

Needing to disable raytracing to not let it go to hot on a 4090 is just insane

Best feature? That rear IO light. That's such a little but MASSIVE thing. $5 feature that saves the wear and tear on ports.

Review for this should've been a lot more negative. This just looks like a fancy hot box.

Ploufe, any recommendations for a keyboard with more spacing for larger handed folks?

The Derbauer review of this thing already tells me what I need to know about it. Absolutely brutal cooling design for the price and apparent rookie mistakes on the fan configuration.

Did everyone forget that Ryzen exist or something, this would have been better with a R9 7800X3D & 7900 XTX. Not a fanboy, I'm just stating a fact

I remember an old Alienware tower that had an integrated LED light strip for the rear I/O. Definitely glad to see that coming back.

That looks really good I love the wood pattern and how small and compact the case is

The fun part is, they could just use a 7800X3D.

COuld you add the 240mm aio yourself?

The Derbauer video on this was bruuuuutal.

Putting the 14900k with a 120 aio is like putting Michael Phelps in a kiddie pool.

If this was built for gaming the only option should have been a 7800x3d

what monitor is that?

You should prob mention that the UEFI in Corsairs pre builts is a custom made one that they dont bother maintaining after a year or two after release meaning the hardware youre buying might become a paperweight if you wanted to update your motherboard to accept a new cpu that isnt compatible out of the box, which isnt a uncommon occurence.

@maxonwii

21 күн бұрын

good thing is that their will be no further cpu for this generation i think

@equinoxe3d

21 күн бұрын

This seems to use a standard MSI MAG Mortar motherboard though?

@kitsune7919

20 күн бұрын

@@equinoxe3d They do but Corsair goes out of their way to make it a more custom solution for what they claim brings better efficiency and perfomance, you can look it up there's people deeply upset online that they can't update their UEFIs to add more compatibility and functionality like how some AM4 Mobos weren't compatible with Ryzen 5000 and needed an update for it.

@equinoxe3d

20 күн бұрын

@@kitsune7919 Ah my bad, I thought they would've used the manufacturer's UEFI and just tweaked the settings, it does sucks then.

Once your mini-ITX case has become the size of a mid-tower, it's lost it's entire reason for existing.

The 8bauer had a slightly different opinion in his video

@Kyomara1337

21 күн бұрын

yea, because he knows what he's talking about. this video is a joke in comparison.

What about memory temps on the GPU ? Dunno why it wasn’t mentioned.

Two main issues with this case: The 120mm AIO for the processor is to small (needs to be a 240mm AIO). And the AIO block for the graphics card needs to cover the VRMs and VRAM to cool those components as well.

These things are looking more like 1970's stereo equipment every day!

It’s only drawing 150w and it’s at 98c…are you kidding me? That is like 1/2 the power draw of the 14900k.

Quick question: What's up with the shaky camera work and weird close-ups?

Since I don't do console gaming, I built an ITX system about five years ago in a Fractal Design Core 500 (because I wanted to be able to support a full-sized ATX PSU, GPU and optical drive). This thing looks like it's the same size!

Looks like a really cool mATX case at least. We need more mATX cases, it's an underrated form factor for custom builds.

I recomend people to watch Der8auer's video. This SUPER OVERPRICED bad designed pc is not worth $5000 Let's see how much issues ploufe can spot 😂

"Don't wanna break it. Or drop it." Ahh, so that's why Linus wasn't allowed near this thing

For its size, Corsair could've fit most of its standard watercooling lineup in there. Would've saved space to only have one pump, standardized parts would've been cheaper. Slap an XR5 240 rad on that hinged door, good to go. Hell, at this price, they should've used their Link fans, if only to cut out most of the cabling in their already cramped case.

You know what else is really hard to cool? Plouffe. This man will never be cool.

Too expensive to pay for a thermally throttling i9. Cmon Corsair it HAS the space so just bump it up to a 240 at least.

The world needs more mid-century modern PC cases!

how does a 120 rad work with an i9 14k that doesn't seems correct

"I don't know if i'd buy it, but it's pretty sweet." describes almost every Corsair product.

By using TORX manufacturer usually indicates that this is probably not what you are need to do. For example at my AIO pump they use them to seal liquid inside it. I don't see any problem because TORX usually even better than Philips.

That fabric side is going to be a great cat scratcher

LGR enters the chat: "Wood grain PC cases you say.. "

Der8auer recommended changing fans to 25mm fans

Plouffe's Shirt: Be not afraid, human.

All that performance, and that price, yet no USB 4 or Thunderbolt? I wish it were available with a Ryzen 7800X3D instead.

This thing looks like my Grans waldrobe, once seen, I can't unsee it 🤔 Particular the start button for door handles.

Now I feel bad for recommending the 2024 version of this PC to a friend. I should have watched the reviews first. Man this thing runs hot and is expensive too

It's hitting 98c on light gaming, that may be "fine" on a temperature controlled room, but try that with the window open on summer and see what happens.

the host's comments were so bent on not being negative, not trying to lose sponsorship chances are we?

Looks like enough space for a 240 mm aio in there. Maybe worth buying one and switching the cooler with a better one

"it got a lot of stange. Its real strong " i bet a hydrolic press is just a bit stronger xD

"we've got cyberpunk running in the background, in just the main menu, because, you know, we're gaming" this is a joke of a video

Expensive, loud, hot... And now you can have them all!

Jeez that heat is insane. At least you won't be cold during the winter season

@daemonbyte

20 күн бұрын

corsair also locks the cpu to run under power at max so it's so much heat while being gimped

I cant help but look at prebuilts with nothing but disdain. Paying extra to have things spec'd/built poorly just really gets to me lol

120mm AIO Lmao

Imagine advising people to turn down settings in a years old game like Cyberpunk on a PC this expensive just because it can't keep itself cool.

Don't get me wrong here but I have doubts about the labs data. Der8auer pointed out so many flawed things. How can a single person be more accurate than a whole team and how the hell did this made it through the ECC Squad

The fractal north with the mesh panel is actually a nightmare, I ordered the TG panel to replace it, it has no real dust filtration and I've never had such a dusty PC before

This was like watching Unbox Therapy. I thought ShortCircuit was supposed to be like that, but with the credibility and quality of LTT. It is up to a preference? That is a spineless way to say practically nothing at the end. If your preference is to have an expensive PC that is cooking itself to death even without dust in it...yeah, this is certainly a great option. Yuck...

Weaksauce. I hope they actually review it rather than just this first look video. They might conclude, as Der Bauer did, that this is a hot, noisy paperweight.

5k and they didn't optimize the rig to perform within thermal limits...

What is that for a keyboard? 8:05

The design of the original was pretty special. This One looks pretty standard but the construction looks solid and it’s a pretty dapper build as a whole.

Can build it yourself in any other case for 1000$ (us) less. Is the case THAT good?

I feel like they should have went for 360 rad on CPU and keep the stock cooler on the GPU. Dont forget that Corsair made the 2000D, so I dont understand what they are trying to do with this

i never understood why people would want the most expensive rig money can buy in a small form factor. if you have 2k to waste for a 4090, i think you have enough room in you house (cause you're either reach or sold everything to get the card

Watching the condensation evaporate after Plouffe's shweddy hands move after pointing to each port is making me highly uncomfortable.

Do they have one with a 14600 or 700 instead? That would be equal performance with that 120mm throttle problem. Cheaper as well ...just looked--of course they don't

They had a second fan next on the aio why not have a 240 rad there

2:17 3Dgameman vibes!

IO light needs to be standard on all cases, I like the case but I don't like the cooling. Like trying to cool a big block with a box fan.

The Fractal case with wood looks good, this does remind me of 1970s hi-fi and CRT TVs and stuff. Wait, how is that gigantic cover that looks exactly like a heatsink, not just a heatsink? What a waste of material.

Cleaning the dust out of it might suck. Not too sure though

Gee, it really does look like they had room to put a 240mm rad where that 120mm is on the side. For what this costs and what it’s trying to cool, it should have been a 240mm.

Imagine putting an Intel in a heat sensitive sized case in 2024.

3:33 You tell 'em, Plouf. They should have never used two different types of screw heads. Phillips screwheads are trash. All my homies hate crosshead screws.

For most people, a "few more hundred dollars" is not splitting hairs.

@tim3172

21 күн бұрын

For most people buying a nearly-$4000 computer, it is. Maybe you should stay in your lane and comment on stuff you know, like off-brand cereal?

Can we just have the case? 1490k on a 120mm rad is wild.

i wand to buy the old case as just a kit.

I just want the wood finish looking case.

A pc that shows up in a plastic suit case. It must be that important.

No instructions came with it to show how it should be taken apart? If the answer is yes why not use them?

there should be a honest "would the host actually consider buying it" on all reviews!

Is it really a small form factor tho... It's the size of and old cheap tower