Excellent detective work

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Thanks and stay tuned for the updated video!

Great catch. I was looking to pick one of them up. Maybe I’ll wait a little until they get the firmware update. Thanks again.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yeah I'm sure they'll fix it but I could definitely understand why you would want to wait.

_Another case of.. push the product out to the masses, and let them do the R&D!_

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Maybe so. I'm sure they did plenty of testing on prototypes but they must not have tested the final product much.

Fun how for years they all were fine and then Hobbywing has this issue the new firmas have this issue and now to castle’s have this issue

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yeah it is weird. There have been quite a few problems with modern ESCs. I think it's everybody trying to do fancy new things and having problems with fundamentals.

@STERACE

6 ай бұрын

This just happened to me this past weekend when I tried to run a different motor with my HW esc. Any idea on how to fix it?

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

@@STERACE which hobbywing ESC?

@Luke-en2tk

6 ай бұрын

At least with Hobbywing until the new G2 ESC's came out they were only sensorless, outside of their race ESCs and now the G2s are made to run both

@STERACE

6 ай бұрын

@@DoRC Xr8 plus

I've bought countless HWing ESCs & never had a single problem.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Hobby wing definitely has its share of problems especially recently.

@dylanwhite6539

6 ай бұрын

Hobbywing g1 max escs all over heated for me. The max8 was entirely useless in my erevo. Same thing with the max10 sct and a slash 4x4 and ARRMA granite. Used a sidewinder 3 in the same truck with the same motor and no issue.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

@dylanwhite6539 yeah the cooling on the G1 hobbywing ESCs wasn't very good. Upgraded fans made a huge difference. The G2 ESCs have much better cooling and are more efficient but have other problems.

I've got a question. Not sure if you can answer. I have a Cobra 8 I just installed. I've also got the Castle Link program. From what I understand the punch settings are in reverse. With "disabled being the highest and 100% being the lowest. But I've tried all the settings. And even at the "disabled" setting the punch is very delayed. It acts like a level 2 punch setting on a traditional style setting. Am I missing something here? When you hit the throttle right at the beginning of this video that punch seems sufficient. When I hit the throttle it's insanely slow to respond. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

@DoRC

Күн бұрын

Have you updated it to the latest firmware?

@edwinlomonaco6754

Күн бұрын

@DoRC I'm pretty sure I have. The first thing I did when getting it all setup was to update the firmware. It's currently on the version 1.17. The one above that on the list of firmware options says Beta. So I figured it's up to date.

@DoRC

Күн бұрын

@@edwinlomonaco6754 the current firmware I believe is 1.20.

Are there castle to hobbywing sensored motor adapters around that you know of?

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yes. Hobby wing sells adapters that go both ways.

For my XRT Ultimate I bought two smc 11300 batteries. On the instructions, it states to make sure the batteries are in balance. I have the Traxxas ezpeak live dual charger. Am I able to check with this? Or do I need to purchase a balance checker? If so, you have one that you recommend? Instructions also state to not discharge them below a certain voltage. So I’ll be able to check voltage with the balance checker device right?

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

You'll have to charge them using the app because you have to use the app for any batteries that aren't Traxxas OEM batteries. You can check the cell voltages inside the app. The ESC will automatically shut the car down when the battery reaches a safe low voltage. You can then check that with the charger using the same method. That being said having an external battery tester is never a bad idea.

@joemomma707

5 ай бұрын

@@DoRC instructions state the following: “Ideally you need to check the voltages of the cells in the pack once you have reached the cutoff voltage your ESC is set at. You want the cells to be in the high 3.6 to low 3.7v range. If they are lower, adjust your ESCs cutoff accordingly. For those using ESCs that don't have an adjustable cutoff or it can't be set high enough, you can purchase our Precision Alarm Kit and set it at 3.7V.” I’m assuming I can manually change the esc cutoff using the Traxxas app with the Bluetooth link feature that I have on the xrt. Which battery tester do you recommend? I’ll order one. Thank you!!!

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

The Traxxas ESCs doesn't have an adjustable LVC. This is the tester I use ISDT BattGo BG-8S Battery Meter，LCD Display Digital Battery Capacity Checker Battery Balancer Battery Tester for LiPo/Life/ Li-ion/NiMH/Nicd a.co/d/3ZJ82ZK

Dang interesting learning something new , appreciate that review. I believe Castle is trying to keep us from mixing their brands to other with that sensor plug, smart on their end but sucky on our end.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Maybe though even they have sensorless motors. I really think this was just a mistake.

@SleekHobbies88

6 ай бұрын

@@DoRC ya I truly understand

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

We will see how it goes.

Would you recommend the Max8 G2 or Max8 G2S for my Maxx? Does the Max8 G2S go on fire/overheat?

@DoRC

22 күн бұрын

They are very similar. The Max 8 G2S mostly just added the Bluetooth programming. Personally I'd probably go for the G2 just because it has the option to program it without Bluetooth

Great find 👌🏼

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Thanks. Took me a while to figure out what was going on.

Another banger!!! This is high quality info right here

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching!

I’m surprised there isn’t a setup parameter that lets you choose sensored/unsensored. Or is that just supposed to be automatic?

@memememine1

6 ай бұрын

Should be automatic. The sensor on my mamba monster 2 and 1515 came off and I couldn't even really tell untill I tried to crawl slowly over something and it started cogging all of a sudden.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

You can choose sensored only or sensored/unsensored but that wouldn't matter as this problem isn't a problem with it not knowing that it's a sensorless motor it's a problem with it actually running the sensorless motor.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yeah it is automatic. I don't think this problem has to do with it not being able to detect that it's a sensorless motor. I think that it's a problem with it running the sensorless motor.

Big ooof ... well they sure could have let that be known to the consumers. Great heads up thanks man

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yeah I'm surprised there's not a notice on the product page or something like that about it. Maybe they will after this video? Who knows.

@rogueFactor

6 ай бұрын

@@DoRC support gets drilled with "the issue is, there -are- no known issues."... unless somebody calls in with one. 🤭

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

@rogueFactor I definitely understand that. I did IT tech support for a long time.

Im having a very similar problem with a max8 and a rocket 1700kv w 18t pinion. Ever had the same problem basically with a max8?

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

I haven't seen this problem with the Max 8 G2 but I have it a problem where they sometimes cut out when hitting big jumps. Is that what you're talking about or under acceleration?

@smoothoper8r5

5 ай бұрын

@DoRC nah. It's more like cogging. Almost exactly like what you showed, without a sensored motor. I just put it in my outcast 4s with the 2500kv it came with. Well see if the esc is bad or it just didn't like that combo 🤷‍♂️

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

@@smoothoper8r5 gotcha. Well let me know how it goes!

Did you go into the castle software and set it to sensorless only and try that?

@DoRC

4 ай бұрын

Yes. Check my updated video. They released new firmware to fix the problem.

@fonicgaming6787

3 ай бұрын

@@DoRC Awesome. I better set a reminder to update my Cobra 8 after I deal with moving….

@DoRC

3 ай бұрын

@@fonicgaming6787 Yeah definitely seems to be better

Great video

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

Thanks and thanks for watching!

Not worried I only have sensor motor but be better if they had firmware available right away.

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

Yeah people who mostly run sensored motors really aren't going to have any issue but there are a lot of sensorless systems out there right now.

Great video's and edit too! New sub :)

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoy and thanks for the sub!

Good catch💪

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Thanks and thanks for watching!

What I think is what you said. This should have been caught while in the testing phase. They should know better than the consumer. They're the ones engineering it. That's what channels like this are for.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yeah I suspect that this was an issue with the production version that wasn't there in the prototypes but it still should have been tested before being released as it's a pretty obvious problem.

Nice catch! Thanks Why do these big companies not have a qc department? I didn’t buy the big rock or the Kraton just because of that. I’ll eventually submit but come on. QC!!

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

I'm sure they do. I think what's happening is they're testing things out on prototype hardware and small changes occur when going into production that are causing these problems. All it takes is for the company that made the PCBs to change one component for something like this to happen.

Good job🎉

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yeah hopefully it won't be too long before they fix it.

You are so right.. It should have not came out the public with that issue.

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

Yeah it's definitely not the best. Hopefully they'll have a solution out soon.

Castle creation QC has been dropping the ball for a while now!

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

In general I've had good luck with their hardware. They had the short-term issue with the XLX2 and now this but they usually do a good job.

Have the same problem with a max8g2 and a rocket motor, but not as bad. It does it only on the begining of the acceleration when i give it full "throttle", BUT if i'm trying to just very slowly pull away, it keeps doing it, just like the mamba.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Interesting. Several people have had the same complaint with the Max 8 G2 now. I wonder what the deal is with modern ESCs and sensorless motors.

So saying to you it's a known issue tells me that yes they did know and released it anyway which they shouldn't have pushed it out knowing it had that issue and knowing plenty of people wasn't using their motor as they sold it in a combo and just a esc idk I guess this is just another reason I'm a HOBBYWING guy

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

It's possible though it has been out for a few days now and I'm sure I'm not the first person to have the problem so it's entirely possible that they only found out about it after release.

@RC4us

6 ай бұрын

@@DoRC anything possible but one would think testing would have happened

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

I'm sure it did. My guess is that this, just like other problems we've seen with first releases, happens because they're testing is being done on prototypes and small changes that occur when going into production create the issue. If the company that they hired to making populate the PCB changes one part it could cause a problem even if that part has the same basic specifications.

@RC4us

6 ай бұрын

@@DoRC true look at the new spektrum black series just another example i guess

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

@@RC4us I think so.

Awesome work! I just put Castle Creations on blast across FB for not releasing a statement about this defect yet. That's unacceptable. This isn't their first time ignoring serious issues/faulty QA with a new ESC (Mamba Monster X 8S fires with delta wind motors was BAD...)

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yeah definitely would be nice if they had some sort of notification on their site about it.

On the bright side it didn't burst into flames and burn your truck down. They're getting better.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yeah I think that was really only a problem with a specific batch of the original XLX2 ESCs. Definitely a tough stigma to shake off though.

To me at least, it sounds like it was a known issue in testing but marketing deadlines to push towards a committed release date put more pressure to get the ESC in the hands of buyers first. Had it been a hardware issue, they wouldn’t have been able to release the ESCs. However, being a programming concern, it afforded castle the ability to simply release an updated firmware at a later date. This makes good business sense, especially when the ESC work flawlessly with the motors it was designed for: castle creations sensored motors.

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

Maybe though if you claim the ESC will work with sensorless motors it really should work with them. There are plenty of people in bashing running soensorless motor so it's not like it's some edge case. I feel like it's more likely that they didn't realize this was a problem or didn't realize the magnitude of the problem.

@h3llfir3rc

5 ай бұрын

@@DoRCit’s possible they didn’t catch it or that it wasn’t something that happened during prototype testing. There are a lot of issues that present themselves only in production once a manufacturer is making all of these offerings in volume. The good news is that they are now aware and have acknowledged it. So I would imagine that a firmware update is around the corner. The bigger scope of this project is not limited to this one ESC. In fact, I would hazard a guest to think that it is merely an introduction to 32-bit processing power and it’s limitations being discovered with these 6S power systems rather than to release it with a higher voltage or high-output system. This makes sense so that they work out those little kinks that only volume production can expose. I Would go out on a limb to even suggest that if and when Castle decides to finally release XLX3, that it will be using this processor. The expensive part of any ESC is the ability to regulate a wide range of DC input voltage. Overall, I do not look at this ESC issue as a problem unless firmware cannot correct it.

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

@@h3llfir3rc I completely agree. I expect every new ESC to come out from Castle from now on to have 32-bit processing. And yeah I also suspect that this issue wasn't as much of or wasn't a problem at all in prototype testing. All it takes is for one component to be different on the production PCB run or something like this to happen. I'm sure they'll get it worked out :-)

Awesome care for the customer's these days

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

I doubt this was intentional. It probably occurred due to a subtle variance between their prototypes and the production run.

With all the warnings I've heard about castle I'll stick to avoiding them.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

In general they make pretty good stuff.

Lucky I did not order one yet, though they won't be in the UK for a while

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yeah they'll probably have it fixed by the time you can order it anyway. I would imagine they'll make it a priority.

I like the sidewinder 4 esc it’s spot on for crawlers and is as smooth as a sensored Esc I use it along with a Tenshock 2400 kv sensorless motor .it goes as smooth as a hobbywing fusion and can get very close to the real low speed of the fusion .but without the fusions problem of using 3s for a long time then using 2 s there gets a low battery like judder when the battery is still half charged this happens after about six months of use on 3 s it’s done it on both of my fusions ..

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

Typically Castle does have very smooth sensorless low speed operation for sure!

Cool vid. Some of your speculations are waaaaay off. Also the comments on videos like these are just golden. 😂. I’m sure they will resolve the motor drive issue for non sensored.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Which ones and in what way?

@StewMac570

6 ай бұрын

⁠@@DoRCyour speculations and assumptions about testing and the firmware. I see lots of people jump to conclusions, but never know the full story or how product development works. Lots of comments on how it shouldn’t be released because of this and that. fearmongering post and click bait titles.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

@@StewMac570 I'm confused. Castle told me it's an issue and that it will be fixed in firmware. The only possibilities are that they knew it was an issue and decided to release it anyway which I doubt, that they never tested the ESC with sensorless motors which I highly doubt or that something changed between prototype testing and release. If there is another possibility please describe it. Also how is the title clickbait? Do you think that the ESC not working with sensorless motors isn't a problem?

@StewMac570

6 ай бұрын

@@DoRCwhy would they not release it? It works in sensored mode and not every application will see the cogging you found. Your test with the spectrum motor took several attempts to recreate the issue. If you force the motor to cogg it will cogg. That’s the nature of sensorless applications. The esc has to fire all phases to read the back emf signal.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

@@StewMac570 this isn't cogging and I tried it with four different motors off camera two of which were castle motors. The issue occurs even if the vehicle is already in motion which I showed. Cogging occurs when the system can't determine the rotor position from a standstill through back EMF. It doesn't occur once the motor starts spinning as the ESC can read the back EMF at that point. The same motors and gearing showed no issues with two other ESCs which I also tested off camera. It is true that the issue doesn't happen every single time but it happens the majority of the time. If they actually knew they was an issue this serious and released it that would be a huge mistake.

And that is worth ringing that bell

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Thanks!

It seems castle always has great expectations but always 1/2 ass with the sensors or something similar. Speaking from XLX2 experience😢

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yeah this is probably just a matter of some small difference between their prototypes and the production run that caused an unexpected issue. Hopefully they'll be able to fix it in firmware pretty quickly.

Did Castle fix this with 1.14?

@DoRC

4 ай бұрын

Yes it seems like they have kzread.info/dash/bejne/qYKMltKkdZrYncY.html

Castle is Falling Off...Great Vid. 👍🏾

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

Maybe though they might have just had an isolated issue in production that they didn't catch in prototype testing.

It looks like 1717…thought you used the 1515 in the video before?!

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

I used both. I started with the 1515 and then switched to the 1717 to put more load on the ESC. I mention it toward the end of the first video.

I never buy anything as soon as it comes out, always wait a while to see what issues some thing my have

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

I used to be the same way. I kind of have to get stuff when it first comes out for the channel but in general I wouldn't recommend it. The early adopter tax is real.

I was about to get one last night. Glad I didn’t

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

Well I know they're working on a fix so hopefully it'll be resolved soon.

Let's wait for a software fix

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Agreed. Hopefully it won't be too long.

Just run the V2 1515/2200KV that comes in the kit w/the included sensor wire until the update comes available *easy-peasy*

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

Sure if you buy it with the motor but it's also available without a motor and pretty much every RTR in existence comes with a sensorless motor. I don't really feel like "just don't use the broken part" is a valid solution.

@cacanjacowans540

5 ай бұрын

Most any castle buyer is buying it for the tunability, performance & sensored features so more than likely the appropriate motor will be used with the specified motor in the kit. If you don't wanna run sensored hobbywing Max8 G2 is the ESC for that. Most all these kits have proprietary components nowadays no different from the spektrum which I believe also need a firmware update for the new V2 150A ESC *as I believe was seen in a previous video*

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

@@cacanjacowans540 I understand what you're saying but I still don't think it's a valid excuse. If it wasn't going to be sensorless compatible then it shouldn't be sensorless compatible at all and should be advertised as such. Also I don't think that the firma issue was any more excusable and certainly doesn't create an excuse for this one. But that's just my opinion and it's worth just about as much as anyone elses:)

Happpened with my max5g2 also with hw g1 800kv

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yeah there's a firmware out for it that helps with the Max 5 G2. Definitely update

i was just perusing their hardware website when i got this popup. #NotificationSquad

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yeah hopefully they get it resolved soon. I was hoping to get a time frame but they didn't seem interested in giving me one.

@rogueFactor

6 ай бұрын

@@DoRC while QA should catch most problems, not all potential issues will be known before RTS. I used to write BIOS firmware for [REDACTED] Computer Corp. DEFCON 1 if we had field failures on new RTS machines. i'm glad it's something that can be addressed and resolved after the fact. L'est we have to find a mounting pattern for the firmware. 😁

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

@@rogueFactor yeah it's probably is just a case of some small change in the production run of the PCB versus what they were using for prototype testing. Kind of thing happens all the time. That being said it would be nice if they did at least basic testing on the final release product before letting it go. This is not a subtle problem.

@rogueFactor

6 ай бұрын

@@DoRC this brings me to question i've had. Is a sensored setup overkill for an everyday bash rig? i really haven't had much luck finding good data on the subject.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

@rogueFactor I think so. A sensored system is only really advantageous at really low speeds. It doesn't really provide any benefit above a crawl. Since most of us don't really go super slow when we're bashing it really just isn't necessary.

Once the update is done, try without remorse

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

I will :-)

Geez. So many new ESC's coming out that have issues and require firmware updates 🤦🏻‍♂️

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yeah and it seems to be primarily related to sensorless running too. Not sure exactly why that is.

Agree

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

Hopefully we can get it resolved soon!

There is are problems with that esc too. It’s named a Cobra 8, and it’s only 6S, and they forgot to come out with a 12S model.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

I think the eight means 1/8 scale.

@alankowalski8781

5 ай бұрын

@@DoRC nope

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

So you think they literally just misnamed it? Like they meant to name it Cobra 6 and someone typoed and no one noticed? That seems kind of unlikely given that the 8 could easily stand for 1/8 scale. I think this is especially likely since they market it specifically market it as a 1/8 scale ESC.

Well we seen this before, when they've had problems with new releases. And they always stand behind their stuff and get things right. And people always get all up in arms about it when it's really not a big deal because they always make things right. I still run your stuff and will continue to! As far as products and development goes, sometimes stuff happens. Mistakes happen or whatever, especially with electronics! I'll still be buying one for my mp10e to race at track with. An retire mamba monster x for backup to Cobra!

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

I agree though it is starting to get a little long that we've been waiting for a fix.

@bluecrabnitroracing4499

5 ай бұрын

@@DoRC idk how long theve been out. I took about a 6 months sabbatical from racing an rc to unwind. Just getting back to it.

Joe Kenda does RC, well my, my, my😉😆

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Huh?

Nothing a software update won’t fix and u do know everytime castle releases new electronics we the people are the quality control and testing they knew there would be some issues we are the testing bud

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

Yeah but I don't think we should normalize the behavior if that is what happened.

The price is a huge problem.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yeah it's not so much that it's more expensive than hobby wing. Castle has always been more expensive than hobbywing. The big problem for me is the fact that it's $5 less than the MMX8S.

I really must learn not to order the first batch off the latest and greatest. Why are firms leaving the customer to do there RnD 🤬

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

I'm guessing that something changed between prototype and production that they weren't anticipating and that they didn't know this was an issue. Not excusing it but that kind of thing does happen. Hopefully they'll get it fixed soon.

lucky not an catch fire problem

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yeah I suspect I'll have it resolved fairly quickly.

@politie_jip112

6 ай бұрын

@@DoRC not a big issue you had with a sensored motor anyway or People buy it with bundle

Ugh. This day one patch model from video games is leaking into this hobby bad now. At least castle doesn’t make you pay extra to fix their mistake though

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yeah I can't imagine that they actually knew this was a problem though. If I had to guess I would say something changed between prototype and production that they weren't anticipating. That's just a guess though.

I hope they won’t catch fire like the xlx2 did when they were new

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

So far I think that's only been an issue with the XLX2. I doubt we'll have that kind of issue here.

@IsaacSchultz-lz8jc

6 ай бұрын

Yea I think it’s was just faulty capacitors the the changed the supplier then it’s been good

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

@IsaacSchultz-lz8jc that makes sense.

😂😂You have put it in senseless mode

@DoRC

2 ай бұрын

It does not have a specific sensorless mode. It has sensored, smart sense (which detects sensorless or sensored) and brushed modes. The issue in this video has been resolved by Castle in a firmware update. Please see my follow-up video.

@mooniedizzel6443

2 ай бұрын

@@DoRC it does even says it does right on the box.

@DoRC

2 ай бұрын

@mooniedizzel6443 Yes. It is able to use a sensorless motor but it does not have a specific sensorless only mode. Further if it wasn't in a mode that worked for sensorless it wouldn't work with the motor at all. Again though this is all moot because this was a defect, Castle was made aware of it and fixed it through a firmware update.

At that price, it should work flawlessly with anything and already come with crawling ability. Plus....come with some butt wipes. It should wipe your behind for that money.

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

Yeah it's pretty expensive. A lot of new things have growing pains though. I'm sure they'll get it worked out quickly!

This is the Motor not the esc . The same Problem whit outher esc and sensored motor....

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Even though Castle told me it's an issue with the ESC?

Thats what my max 8g2 does in sensorless mode, not as extreme, but very similar, and im the same, not cogging as has the torox esc in begore and had no issues with same set up, waiting for the pro orogramme card and hopefully an update will help 🤞

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Interesting. I've had several people say they had the same problem with their Max 8G2. It's not something I really heard of before. I wonder why so many modern ESCs are having problems with sensorless motors.

@gregganderson5479

5 ай бұрын

Pretty sure they released a firmware upgrade to fix the issue. May want to check to see if your firmware is up to date.

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

@gregganderson5479 they released one for the Max 5. I have a video about it but I'm not sure about the Max 8.

@RCvapor

5 ай бұрын

​@@gregganderson5479 the firmware update is the issue, so there are two firmwares for the max 8, mine came with the newest, so i have reverted back to the older firmware and issue fixed, very strange 😀

@RCvapor

5 ай бұрын

​@@DoRCfixed the issue, there are two firmwares for max 8 g2. My esc came with newest firmware and i have reverted back to older firmware and issue fixed, very peculiar 🤷🏻‍♂️

Man well that sucks

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

It's not the best. Hopefully they get it fixed soon.

Expensive for what. For the price you pay this is like i said on the XLXL unacceptable

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Hopefully they get it fixed soon.

If you want safe, go with hobbywing....if you want violent power...castle everyday....

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

These days even hobby wing hasn't been super reliable.

@marcthaywood9647

6 ай бұрын

@@DoRC really.....I've heard rumblings but I don't own one myself....love the content !!

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yeah I've had my share of problems with the G2 ESCs as well.

They know what they doing keep putting out junk with problems then saying they will make it right a year later after they got your money.

@DoRC

4 ай бұрын

Problems do happen though it is a little frustrating that something this basic could be missed before production. Hopefully it'll get it fixed soon

Castle cremations😂

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Definitely not a good look. Hopefully they get it fixed soon.

@craigpimlott204

6 ай бұрын

Kev talbots cooked a few castle esc ‘s to the point of fires 😂

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

@@craigpimlott204 yeah but he's cooked just about everything :-)

@craigpimlott204

5 ай бұрын

@@DoRC I don’t think he’s had another make on fire though 😂😂😂

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

@@craigpimlott204 yeah I've always been a little suspicious of that fire video. I've watched it a bunch of times and it almost seems like there was a little bit of accelerant used. I've seen a lot of ESC fires and they usually don't result in the entire car burning to the ground.

You gotta switch the settings in the ESC when you swap from sensored motors to unsensored. The mamba X and HW max 10 does the same thing.

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

Well that's not the way that any of the previous ones have worked. I've used multiple examples of both the Mamba x and the hobby wing max 10 G2 with sensorless motors and have never changed any settings on either one of those. Which setting specifically are you referring to? The only setting that is available to change related to sensored or sensorless has options for sensored only, automatic detection or brushed. There is no option for sensorless.

@devinwagers3134

5 ай бұрын

@@DoRC gotta put it in auto, you probably kept it in sensored mode so it's looking for a sensor.

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

No. I tried it both ways but I was primarily testing an auto. In sensor only mode it won't move the motor at all unless the sensor system is connected.

@devinwagers3134

5 ай бұрын

@@DoRC are your motor wires matched with ESC? A-A B-B and C-C?

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

@devinwagers3134 Yes but that doesn't matter in sensorless mode. Given that Castle has already told me that it's a problem with the ESC itself and they're working on a solution I'm not sure speculation is really necessary at this point.

Yeah ill stick with hobbywing thank you lol

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

They do usually represent better value for money but they've had their own share of problems lately too.

@cwatson42785

5 ай бұрын

@@DoRC Thankfully I've yet to have problems although I am having a little trouble with a max5 combo in my dbxl but not sure if it was just an outlier last time I took it out on a really cold day and think I was geared a bit too high but knock on wood! Hey bud did you see the losi hammer rey is on sale right now for $299? Pretty good deal for what you get. I just ordered one up. Not everyone's cup of tea but just a heads up on the deal going on just in case! 🍻

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

@@cwatson42785 I did. I actually picked one up when it was the same price for a short period of time on eBay at Black I did. I actually picked one up when it was the same price for a short period of time on eBay during Black Friday.

Cobra 8 data log Edit: I meant to google that not leave it as a comment. I’m retarded.

@DoRC

4 ай бұрын

That's okay :-) Glad you are here and thanks for commenting anyway!

Man I shouldn't have watched this I just bought one 😭

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

I wouldn't worry too much about it. I'm sure they'll have a solution soon.

@RiverTheNerd

5 ай бұрын

@@DoRC yeah, I'm not too worried lol. Seems like a great ESC. I'm going to put it in my Tamiya TT-02R build, with the beautiful Nissan GT-R (R35) body and paint it purple. It will hopefully look awesome

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

@@RiverTheNerd That's going to be a beast!

@RiverTheNerd

5 ай бұрын

@@DoRC I got the idea from StewMac 570. He recommended the Cobra 8 with the Castle 1412 6400KV on 3S, since he did that setup and got 138 MPH! I'm hoping for similar results, and I got some 2S batteries as well for more "casual..." well, I guess you would call it speed bashing

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

@RiverTheNerd sounds like fun

Shouldn’t of put it out, or tried to recall the ones that were sold when it became a problem. Premium prices but broke boy products.

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

I would guess that they weren't aware that this was an issue due to changes in the production version from their prototypes or something like that. A full recall probably isn't necessary as long as they're able to create a resolution fairly soon. I do agree though that if they're going to sell something as a super premium product it should probably work properly.

@lyricalcoma1979

5 ай бұрын

@@DoRC I was gonna buy one of these the other day after my 6s Talion esc went pop but didn’t do it in the end but glad I didn’t now lol, pretty sure it’s gonna be fixed pretty soon and I’m sure when it is it’ll be a very nice esc. Just a case of watch this space I guess. Great vid tho dude you say exactly what you need without 45 minutes of waffle 😂

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

@lyricalcoma1979 thanks that's the goal!

First, again

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Man you're on it! I need to send you a prize :-)

@STRAIGHT_PIPED_RACING

6 ай бұрын

@@DoRC 😁

Wow. Not good.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yeah it's not the best. Fortunately it sounds like something they're going to be able to fix with firmware so not the worst either.

Lol

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

?

Back in the day, Castle was king of sensorless systems. Now...this.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yeah it's a bummer but I'm sure they'll get it fixed quickly.

Hey! Im the product marketing manager for Castle and would love to talk to you. This is a major issue that needs to be resolved and would love your help if you're willing. Do you have a business email or a way to reach you?

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yes. It's in the about section of my channel.

Firmware won't entertain non sensored motor. Thats all.

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

Correct.