I don’t like it when mom and dad fight

@robertcartwright4374

10 ай бұрын

Hahaha!

@user-ui7fp7gl8u

10 ай бұрын

Hahaha!

@cjuice9039

10 ай бұрын

Hahaha!

@czechmatebro

10 ай бұрын

this made me laugh out loud :D

@user-ui7fp7gl8u

10 ай бұрын

@@czechmatebro Hahaha!

Despite criticizing America at every turn, I will not accept America slander

@Cybernaut551

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@wta1518

8 ай бұрын

Especially not when it's coupled with Dutch 🤮 propaganda.

@atomicgiraffe250

4 ай бұрын

American slander is reserved for Americans only. I’m not gonna hear it from a bunch of Europeans who would get steamrolled by Putin if it wasn’t for the US

In Paris when the trains started getting 15+ minute headways the president of the transit agency couldn't even appear in public for her own safety.

@wesleycanada3675

10 ай бұрын

The way god intended

@GeneralLiuofBoston1911

10 ай бұрын

Balanced as it should be!

@kaitlyn__L

10 ай бұрын

Good. Keep the fear of the people in government agencies

@bjf10

10 ай бұрын

Hell yeah. The French know how to keep their government accountable.

@spiritualanarchist8162

10 ай бұрын

Unless there are strikes

As a Dutchie, thank you. The whole orange-pill thing is great, but the Netherlands is far from a utopia. Especially public transport outside the major cities is lacking and living car free (although possible) is a lot more difficult than some people make it seem like.

@caramelldansen2204

10 ай бұрын

plus, that whole "our economic model is entirely funded by imperialism" thing 😅

@kaitlyn__L

10 ай бұрын

“Orange-pill” is really weird to read as a Glaswegian lmao, my brain first translated it into “protestant-pill” instead of “Netherlander-pill” 😅

@WhyGodby

10 ай бұрын

​@@caramelldansen2204his main audience is in the us, they're funded on economic imperialism today

@vaska00762

10 ай бұрын

​@@kaitlyn__L I mean, the Orange Order does literally worship a Dutch King who defeated an English King in Ireland.

@TohaBgood2

10 ай бұрын

I'm sorry, but we're going to be bashing you for a little bit because your transportation network was used as a prop in a longtime debate about transit. We still like you. And I hope that this conversation maybe will help deal with some of your local transit issues. But yeah, any transit issues that we find in the Netherlands will now be mocked mercilessly. Sorry!

Jason saying how nothing's happening in the US and we should just "give up" completely ignores the progress cities HAVE made. Jersey City is a prime example. Thanks to both the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail and the PATH, so much development has popped up Downtown. Jersey City has been adding more people per square mile than more famous US cities through rapid housing growth with high-, mid-, and low-rise buildings. You can go from old rowhouses to mid-rise pop-ups with repurposed faces and Vancouver-esque high-rises. This is on top of pedestrianizing the area around Grove Street PATH and adding bike lanes. And to solve a transit desert on the West Side, they partnered with Via for an on-demand rideshare. I'm glad people like you are calling out those in Europe who criticize North America because it's absolutely double standard to say "Oh the Netherlands is so perfect" when not only does the Netherlands has its own set of issues, but Amsterdam or Rotterdam isn't the entirety of the country.

@sebastiantirado6247

10 ай бұрын

Hi Avery didn't expect to see you here lmao

@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45

10 ай бұрын

Also the old Northeast cities that were built before car centric planning like Boston that are walkable and have... well... decent-ish public transportation. Not gonna lie, the T is going through it right now.

@uzin0s256

10 ай бұрын

OMG SO TRUE. i hate it when he says shit about how US cities are terrible. I lived in Newport,Jersey city for 4 years and i was able to live car free. The public transit is so frequent and fucking good there i cant even express my happiness when talking about it. PATH IS A LIFESAVER. I got saved by it so many times because my uni was in NYC. Even here in san francisco i am able to live carfree and enjoy this beutifull city.

@liliya_aseeva

10 ай бұрын

I think that US has "childhood diseases" of many developing countries. It just so happened that it started already being richer.Some 20-30 years ahead, and the infill building will fill the gaps and cities will become more natural. Kazakhstan for example is also like this - large area, small population and low-density everywhere, and small and isolated rail coverage, but it slowly starts to develop and especially new train lines are opening each year.

@Daniel-hj8el

10 ай бұрын

Yea.. DUDE! So TRUE! The first sentence reminds me a lot when Jason made a video about why Americans are a bad for public transit and always and when I say always I mean SO MANY times and Almost never STOPS, and not only that he always compared good Europe City and Bad U.S city saying it is "Doomed to fails" but Almost never compares American cities that have good Bones, which the video he did is SARCASM, and I don't like it!😤

New York really is the "New Amsterdam"

@robertcartwright4374

10 ай бұрын

Good point!

@davidty2006

10 ай бұрын

It was at one point. till the dutch well somehow didn't exist on the american continent again...

@assasain999

10 ай бұрын

@@davidty2006 We still exist on the American continent... The kingdom has territory in the carribean.

@nsomniac0794

10 ай бұрын

@@davidty2006the British happened. Became New York.

@wta1518

3 ай бұрын

Why the changed it? I can't say.

New York also has a higher mode share for walking than Amsterdam - and Paris. We're doing *something* right!

Yeah I love the Urbanist channels that pretend downtown Amsterdam is all of the Netherlands and ignore the fact that they also have somewhat low density suburbs built around cars with mega highways.

@tcniatcniatcnia

10 ай бұрын

Most of dutch suburbia isn't bad? Its still suburbia but no where near car dependent suburbia. The highway point is right though

@lukeskinner7900

10 ай бұрын

@@tcniatcniatcnia Are you orange?

@tcniatcniatcnia

10 ай бұрын

@@lukeskinner7900 I know quite a bit about the Netherlands. I guess that makes me orange lol

@VLena_art

10 ай бұрын

NJB literally made a video about this like last week. I live 10 km from Nijmegen and it is still very good here. I go to the city on my bike every day, completely separated from traffic. There is a bus connection a 2 minute walk from my house and a train connection 10 minutes walking.

@robk7266

10 ай бұрын

Downtown Amsterdam sucks lol. It's just brothels, casinos, and weed cafes. It gets nice once you go to the outer canals though

The United States isn’t perfect but things are slowly getting better. Not to mention a lot of his videos mention all the pedestrian and transit improvements in the Netherlands were recent, and not too long ago they too were car invested. The United States has to undo 70 years of car-centric infrastructure. It won’t happen overnight but change is coming.

@heychrisfox

10 ай бұрын

You have an optimism literally nobody else has.

@Joesolo13

10 ай бұрын

@@heychrisfox I have it!

@kaitlyn__L

10 ай бұрын

@@laurinnintendo thanks (partly) to first past the post versus proportional representation systems :(

@losh330

10 ай бұрын

​@@heychrisfoxI have it!

@ScramJett

10 ай бұрын

@@heychrisfox I would even call it hopium.

i massively support this BASED NEW YORK COVERAGE 🗣️📈🔝‼️

Fucking thank you. I live in a 300k people city in a province that is not part of the Randstad and public transit over here ranges from mediocre to abysmal. We have lost 1500 bus stops since 2018 due to austerity cuts and privatization and a lot of more rural towns and villages are flat out inaccessible now.

@EraYaN

10 ай бұрын

But we do have a way to get places on a bike almost everywhere. And don’t underestimate how bike friendly/aware even the most asshole Audi or BMW driver is compared to the average LA driver. That alone makes the road a lot safer. I lived out in nothingness for quite a while and I think the only people that ever really tried to kill me were people on enormous farming equipment and hunters without manners. Like the actually design of places even tiny villages is quite nice to be outside of a car

@kaitlyn__L

10 ай бұрын

Austerity is the bane of modern economies, ugh

@williamerazo3921

10 ай бұрын

@@EraYaNwho wants to bike over to the next city smh

@EraYaN

10 ай бұрын

@@williamerazo3921 well I hav drone it for years and years and it’s really fine. Like what on average maybe 2 or 3 km to the next village over and 10 to a large town? God knows I did it daily to school, and it’s fine honestly. Hell my dad used to do 1 hour one way to work for years, even though there were direct express bus line that did it in 20 minutes. This is the Netherlands people do this all the time especially with e-bikes nowadays. Hell people do Rotterdam-Delft on an e-bike daily…

@wewillrockyou1986

10 ай бұрын

Sucks to live in the south lol... Belgium cosplay go brr

friendly fire in urbanism youtube critical hit tho

Tbf, no dutch person says its perfect. Yeah its better than most places but no where near perfect. But I guess to some people one of the best is considered perfect? Every country has its good and bad, no place is a magic utopia

@Acela2163

10 ай бұрын

if NJB hadn't suddenly developed a nuance allergy in the last year or so, than this video wouldn't need to exist.

@R4baDader

10 ай бұрын

Zealot of the convert I guess

@Absolute_Zero7

10 ай бұрын

​@@Acela2163The implication is that this is something he developed in the last year, and hasn't been a problem with his channel since virtually the beginning.

@whitelite2553

10 ай бұрын

ah so tell your own north american friend that. What have Dutch ppl to do with this.@@Acela2163

@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un

10 ай бұрын

"Every country has its good and bad, no place is a magic utopia" except for us, we are the best and the happiest place on Earth

I'll offer my two cents as a European (Spain)-American. Although Europe definitely has better urbanism overall than the US/Canada its not as stark as people make it out to be, at least from my experience. I'm from Chicago and when I visit my family in Barcelona I don't really think there is a night and day difference in urbanism between the two. Public transit and walkability are better in Barcelona for sure, but not by such a significant amount. I'd say theres a bigger difference between American cities themselves rather than American cities and European cities. However, one thing that is a night and day difference is with inter-city trains. Inter city trains in Europe are overwhelmingly better than in the US and especially Canada. That being said the northeast corridor is actually pretty good and with the gateway project, new acela trains, and new airo trainsets, it definitely will be much better. Brightline as well offers really good services in Florida and hopefully from Vegas to Southern California soon. Even some of the Amtrak routes in the midwest are not bad. The Hiawatha beats out driving. The Illini/Saluki and the Lincoln Service are around the same as driving. Amtrak in California also offers pretty decent services, especially the Pacific Surfliner. Amtrak's long distance trains aren't very useful but hey I'm sure they're memorable experiences. Hopefully Amtrak can actually start enforcing its rights over freight companies to ensure that these trains don't face delays, and they'll use the money they got in the bipartisan infrastructure bill to improve and expand upon their network. More broadly I really hope people start advocating for better urbanism within their cities.

@kaitlyn__L

10 ай бұрын

For sure. The biggest difference to me really seems to be simply having terraced houses and small-flats (2-4 storeys/units) in suburbia instead of entirely detached houses. And that does have impacts; there’s less land dedicated to parking, and buses are more viable. But suburbia definitely still feels like suburbia. It’s not like European suburban houses are any less identical to each other, after all. Both feel disquieting and lonely to me - it’s just the 100%-detached with giant lawns in the US are even moreso. I get lost in any suburb, but the space between houses and the sheer size of the developments in the US when I was there made it even harder to get any landmarks in my brain. Every street corner was the same, and I couldn’t see the edges on the horizon. And I was lucky enough to be staying in suburbs with pavement most of the time, since it was mostly in the Northeast - only one place didn’t have them and by contrast that was in SC.

@heychrisfox

10 ай бұрын

"Even though this gorgeous, delicious, gourmet cake is better than the dog poo I found on the side of the road, this cake has a lot of problems!"

@linuxman7777

10 ай бұрын

The passenger rail cannot compete with freight, busses, or flights without it's own dedicated infrastructure away from those other modes.

@gabetalks9275

10 ай бұрын

The gateway project sucks. It's going to demolished an entire block full of residents and small businesses just so they can build another giant terminus immediately next to Penn Station instead of rebuilding it and implementing through-running. In fact, the city that they will only consider through-running in 2080. Please kill me. This is why we need to support ReThinkNYC's plan. It's essential for modernizing the subway, and merging the NJTransit, Long Island Railroad, Metro North, and hopefully, the Staten Island Railroad into one unified regional network with full region-wide through-running.

@siefer117

10 ай бұрын

I agree. In North America it's really down to the questions: did your city exist before the industrial revolution, how big was it, how much did it grow between then and WW2, and how much has it grown since WW2? These questions are likely to give you a general idea of how friendly a city will be to pedestrians, transit, and cars (note the word "general", lots of the old pedestrian stuff has been torn down as I'm sure you've already heard so there are a bunch of nuances).

RRRRHHHHHHHAHHHHHH I LOVE PHILADELPHIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

@wesleycanada3675

10 ай бұрын

Raaaaa! 🦅🦅🦅🦅

@counterfit5

10 ай бұрын

I saw my first ever cockroach in Philly last month.

@PhilliesNostalgia

10 ай бұрын

Go Birds! 🦅

@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45

2 ай бұрын

I LOVE BOSTOOOOOOON

Bro really went for the kill at 0:36

@placeholdername0000

10 ай бұрын

"Fatality!"

Man Alan has done like videos with NJB before but still pulling no punches here, love to see it. Most creators wouldn't step on toes like that. Still love NJB in general but do agree the netherlands circlejerk is getting old.

@ShinodaChan

10 ай бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised if this is mostly just in good fun, though everyone deserves to be humbled from time to time.

@alanfisherextras

10 ай бұрын

@@ShinodaChan I messaged him directly with this video too lol

@Cookiejarlid

10 ай бұрын

lmao@@alanfisherextras

@nuntius1

10 ай бұрын

​@@alanfisherextras ok 🤣🤣

@makisekurisu4674

10 ай бұрын

​@@alanfisherextrasTell me this, size adjusted, is usa really that bad compared to Netherlands?

This video was needed

They really heeben een serieus probleem don’t they

Urban planning is quite good here, even in remote villages. Public transport is surprisingly poor, especially outside of the densely populated parts.

Ive been waiting 23 years for a tram

45 min wait for a tram? still better than waiting for a bus in wales

Only one train connects my city to the one where my school was, and since with that one they decided every single time to partake in the strike, it was either that or taking the bus to 3 DIFFERENT CITIES before it went to the one i needed to go to, and it’d take over 2 hours Its a 15 minute train ride

Alan Fisher stop posting bangers challenge (impossible)

Friendly fire

Hia. Dutchy here. I truly love the Netherlands and I couldn't live without a bike, but yeah. public transit is usable but not amazing, and it's getting worse by the minute. But public transit is just one piece of the pie of many many things. A very important one though.

@vaska00762

10 ай бұрын

The public transit is like.... 100 times better than Ireland's. But also like twice the price. I took a journey from Rotterdam to s'Hertogenbosch and it was €19 one way. That's... Crazy for 1 hour of taking the train one way. That's the price of a return journey on an equivalent Irish train, though that train might run every 2 hours rather than every 30 minutes as it does in NL. Germany has really freaking good public transport and I really think that really should be the goal to reach. Frequency is good, services run through the night and it's cheap.

@ScramJett

10 ай бұрын

@@vaska00762 interesting. When I read your comment, I think “€19 for a one hour train ride is pretty good!” Meanwhile, here in California on Amtrak’s Capitol Corridor Express between Sacramento and the San Francisco Bay Area, a 90 minute train ride is $30 (€28) one way! That train runs every hour (on average) and I’m going to go out on a limb and say that Amtrak trains are probably crap compared to the Dutch trains (who knows, maybe the Irish trains too?) Moral: everything is relative. To someone from California, €19 for a one hour train ride on nice trains that come every 30 minutes is pretty damn good!

@memunist5765

10 ай бұрын

​@@vaska00762If you ever travel with the NS as a tourist, just buy an off-hour ticket online. Or buy a day ticket when you can justify the 58 euro expense.

@MarvinHuber_KSP

10 ай бұрын

@@vaska00762 Is the part with Germany supposed to be a joke?

@vaska00762

10 ай бұрын

@@MarvinHuber_KSP I know Germans have a very dim view of Deutsche Bahn, and I can understand why if you were to consider only long-distance rail, or certain RegionalExpress services which might as well be long-distance services. But let me recontexualise. Most German cities I've been to have tram systems, if not a whole network. Many of them are in cities I've never heard of before. Generally speaking, the trams run more or less on time and are reliable. In bigger cities, like Berlin, they run right through the night, even on weekdays. Bus networks are also good through most German cities, and even rural bus networks can be relied upon. My only issue with rural buses is reduced service on weekends, no service at night and sometimes it's not clear the buses are operating on a holiday timetable (especially in bordering Bundesländer which might not have the same public holidays). Many cities also have extensive S-Bahn services, which are generally pretty prompt and reliable also. I've never seen anything go wrong with the München S-Bahn, Leipzig S-Bahn, Dresden S-Bahn or the Rhein-Ruhr S-Bahn. Berlin and Hamburg have unique S-Bahns that I really like, and despite anecdotal claims, I've never seen them fail catastrophically. The U-Bahn systems of Berlin, München and Nürnberg are also ones I've never seen anything go wrong with, personally. If there's disruption it's usually due to Polizeieinsatz, and that's not within their control. The fake U-Bahn networks of Köln, Düsseldorf and Bielefeld are also pretty reliable and on time. So... then I bring in prices. So let's ignore, for the time being, the Deutschland Ticket (which for €49 a month is a fucking steal). The transport authorities have integrated ticketing meaning that if you have a ticket for a tariff zone, you can take any service in that tariff zone for as long as it's valid. Day tickets are usually under €10 and weekly tickets are about €30. Any longer and you might as well get the Deutschland Ticket which has coverage across every single transport system. I have a friend who lives in Dresden who uses the Deutschland Ticket, and when a bunch of us gathered together in Berlin for a get together in the summer, she could use the same Deutschland Ticket from Dresden in Berlin, and also take connecting RE trains between the cities. Sure, it's slower than taking a DB Intercity or Czech Eurocity train, but it's cool to think that works! Meanwhile, I completed a week of travel in the Netherlands across NS, RET, GVB, HTM and Arriva and I paid over €160 total using the OV-Pay system. I didn't get any better service in NL compared to in Germany.

I've seen tweets like "Look at this cool Dutch water bridge called the Veluwemeer Aqueduct! The boats go over the road!" as if a water bridge over a road is something special that only the Dutch have done when Disney World built two of them (outside Magic Kingdom by the Contemporary in 1971 and the other just west of Epcot in the 1980s) decades before the Veluwemeer Aqueduct. While yes, what they did is still cool, it's reminiscent of the "Place; Place, Japan" meme because of those who obsess that Japan is such a "perfect society" while also ignoring history and current problems. While of course, North American transit systems are by no means perfect, they're still doing something and addressing the needs of its citizens and that's the point! East Side Access/Grand Central Madison in NYC for example, as long as it took and as overbudget as it was, the project helps so many people who live and work on the east side of Manhattan, and it's about time that this crucial connection exists. Things are getting better, and it's very obvious that there are many people focused on making NA's built environment get better too. It's not happening overnight, we have to remember the classic phrase that Rome wasn't built in a day! But writing off people like doomers do ain't the way to inspire confidence in those actively doing a ton of work

@dontgetlost4078

10 ай бұрын

So many stories like this, I get to wonder if we aren't taking the budget issue too seriously, especially with the inflation. I mean, yeah going overbudget looks bad but... could we still just finish it at this point? I know that's a sunk cost, but the alternative is doing nothing at all.

VVD: SYKE *deletes all of your public transit*

I'm so happy that rapper beef is not limited to hip hop. i hope there is no suge knight in this one tho

We need more urbanism videos on Brazilian and Argentinian cities tbh they're dope

@dontgetlost4078

10 ай бұрын

I'm very curious on the Brazilian side. Because I haven't seen much besides the extreme car centrism of Saõ Paulo and Brasilia, but there are very likely places that are great.

@lilacghoste8366

10 ай бұрын

​@@dontgetlost4078cool thing about Brazil that it is walkable and wont shame you like US and Canada

Nieuw Amsterdam > Amsterdam

@AverytheCubanAmerican

10 ай бұрын

Amen

@davidty2006

10 ай бұрын

Can also add in york whilst ya at it. Though Old york and new york are completely different in size since one has old ancient era city walls and the other doesn't.

If every City in US offered as good Transit as NYC, no one would even talk about carcentrism

Based and nuancepilled

come to Amsterdam Alan and see for yourself. Flights between Philly and AMS are cheap via Dublin

@vaska00762

10 ай бұрын

Public transit in Ireland is like half the price of the Netherlands. But car dependency is pretty substantial in Ireland. Population density in Ireland can mostly be described as being Dublin & not Dublin.

i know pills and such are pretty common around here, but please don't be too orange-pilled... you'll end up cycling as high as a kite untill 3 am (trust me).

@lws7394

10 ай бұрын

For me it is always safer to go by bike after a night out , than by foot. Any loose paver tile or gutter might be a risk. On bike I just keep rolling slowly. That is , up untill you need to be carried by 2 mates, but then nothing goes...). The safety of course depends on bike safety in general .... Even when a 'friend' had put a dash of jenever in each pint of beer I took, I just managed to bike uphill a high bridge.. I never crashed my bike due to alcohol (by my memory at least 😁😵‍💫). It's a lot safer than walking, I'd say. I even stuck my boot heel between two clinker bricks waving/walking backward on our drive yard. (And I made a perfect backward roll ! 😂) And for biking with weed: The effects of alcohol are lot worse on you motorical skills than kite .. weed mostly makes you move more slow .

Ok but that is not the only thing that is good about NL but the worker protection and layer back lifestyle is another bonus. I hear folks say I they leave for vacation and get next to no calls or texts. Maternity and paternity leave is a lot better then where I live and especially if you are doing a PHD you get employment level pay as it is considered a job. Couple with less competition compared to North America it looks quite good.

Let them fight! Competition breed innovation

Our roads and cycling infrastructure are easily top class best in the world. Our public transport is adequate, but barely so. Some other european countries leave us in the dust. But at least we're not the UK.

@sonicboy678

6 ай бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised if the UK backslid a fair bit due to Brexit _relative to where it was before Brexit._

i luv u alan!

The twist is that, it was - in fact - JUST bikes.

very interesting, now let's check on the cost of living comparison

I can understand Jason, being usted to bad urbanism and then getting hit with top notch (while not perfect) urban planning can make you overestimate it. However, I would love if he started shouting out bad urbanism in Netherlands.

@sammymarrco47

6 ай бұрын

if you listen to his podcasts youll get a better idea of his reasons for moving to NL. He had some piss poor experiences in Toronto, once I heard his stories, I understand more why he is the way he is. But I do think he could be less arrogant in the way that he explains things. Understanding backgrounds is a great way of understanding actions.

Americans will hate their country vehemently, but as soon as a Euro insults it, we go full bald eagle patriot mode

@Chappington

10 ай бұрын

Hell, the Euros are welcome to make fun of the US as much as they want, IMO. It's only when they say it's hopeless and we should stop trying that we go full George Washington Freedom Fries.

@WalkWalkWalk-c2y

10 ай бұрын

I shit on the US for legit a few hours each day but I got goosebumps when I saw NY pop up under the Netherlands on the car registration list 😂.

@whitelite2553

10 ай бұрын

who insults it? not just bike is not dutch.

@dontgetlost4078

10 ай бұрын

"Don't touch my garbage!!"

@lilacghoste8366

10 ай бұрын

​@@Chappingtonwhere is freedom fires against IRS and the US military? Bet y'all won't last a 5 min against these 2 corp thugs

THANK YOU!!!!!!

I am Dutch. Thank you for making this video. ❤

awesome music choice

Nice song choice

New personality has been added.

most expensive public transport in europe btw

@davidty2006

10 ай бұрын

nah bruv britain is.

@emmq6630

10 ай бұрын

@@davidty2006 depends which part south east yes scotland no, all of the netherlands is consistently expensive

@davidty2006

10 ай бұрын

@@emmq6630 My man up here in the northern england service is utter shite whilst being expensive.

New Yorkers are absolute legends, because they'll post headways of less than ten minutes and then complain.

I want more of this

Public transport is great untill you leave the randstad then you enter a public transport devoid hellscape

LMAO the ny reveal was great

"The last bastion of freedom" sounds like the name for a left 4 dead finale haha

lmao love seeing this video knowing the train network shut down and got me stranded today due to some software issue

You can't seriously think the place that came up with Hagelslag is "great pretty much everywhere"

@PhilHug1

10 ай бұрын

I just Googled Hagelslag. What the hell is that?!?!? 😭

@metrofilmer8894

10 ай бұрын

⁠@@PhilHug1I also out of curiosity just looked up what Hagelslag is. 😭

Compared a city to a whole country 😭 and it’s close

@metrofilmer8894

10 ай бұрын

A city that’s the same size as said country

@TheManiple

6 ай бұрын

It's NY state vs the Netherlands. And the Netherlands is more dense than New York state.

It's all fun and games until you see the F train headways

based and freedompilled

Alan I am currently 3 more Shinkansen city pop videos away from dropping $600 on Kato n scale series 100s why :(

Being poor/disabled in this country stinks... We still have a lot of inaccessible train stations and tram/bus platforms... And the rising prices are making it very hard to use the (pretty great, infrastructure-wise) transit network. We're gonna be seeing a lot more people jumping stalls and sneaking into buses, which in turn will increase conflict as there's not going to be less ticket-control and passenger hassling...

@kaitlyn__L

10 ай бұрын

Solidarity. I’m not from the Netherlands but I am disabled and have a bunch of disabled Netherlander pals. It was pretty upsetting to hear about the austerity measures brought in by conservatives over there at the same time as dealing with the consequences of conservative austerity over here.

@vaska00762

10 ай бұрын

I can see the jumping over stalls prompting NS to start installing full height gate lines similar to the ones RET & GVB use for their Metro systems.

It's because he's from a particularly bad part of a particularly shit province so anything resembling civilization looks like a step up. It's the same reason why people from other parts of North America praise Quebec for having the best transit on the continent while we constantly lament the fact we're aware how much better it could be.

The thing with these comparison videos is that they compare Amsterdam to something like Houston and then claim that both countries are overall the same as these extremes. I don't live in what we Dutchies consider a small town at all, but public transportation in my city of around 200k is down right terrible if you live in the suburbs. The bus that actually services my neighbourhood is one of those oversized taxi buses that carry 9 passengers at the most. If you want to go from say Appeltern to Heumen on a random Sunday afternoon with public transportation the only option you've got is calling a taxi. And then there's the little thing where public transportation really isn't all that accessible. Both the missus and myself have physical disabilities that limit our mobility. There isn't a busstop near either of our houses that's actually walking distance for us. I'm one of those Dutchies who looks at public transportation as a thing that takes me from where I am not, to where I do not want to be, in a roundabout way, and at a time that's generally inconvenient to me. Then on top of it all it's insanely expensive.

@MarvinHuber_KSP

10 ай бұрын

I don't think it's expensive. The Intercity from Amsterdam to Groningen only cost me 30.- which I think is a fair price for what you get

@fermitupoupon1754

10 ай бұрын

@@MarvinHuber_KSP The thing is, for it to be a realistic alternative, even if you just look at cost, I don't feel like it's that much cheaper than going by car. Especially if you don't travel alone. Especially around here where local and regional buses all run in a hub-and-spoke system. So for me to go anywhere by bus, I first have to take the bus to the suburb hub, then take a train or bus from there to central station, and there I can take a bus to where I need to go. There is no bus from the north west of the city to the south west of the city. I always have to go east first to get down town, before I can go back west to where I need to go. It doubles the distance I have to travel, never mind the fact that it takes more than twice as long because I now have to cross the city twice, instead of skirting along the suburb. And ever since the strippenkaart got ditched, you have to pay per km on the bus, regardless of whether the bus is turning your 6km trip into a 20km sightseeing tour with no alternative. Between an electric moped and a plug-in hybrid car, public transit is rarely the cheap or practical solution.

@MarvinHuber_KSP

10 ай бұрын

@@fermitupoupon1754 ok practicallity aside, which is the main factor for using public transport imo, so I understand the point. But just by the cost I'm sure owning a car is more expensive. In switzerland, where I live, trains are about double the price, but still it is cheaper for me than owning a car. For my commute, just filling up gas a year makes the ticket worth it, but yeah it depends on distance.

@fermitupoupon1754

10 ай бұрын

@@MarvinHuber_KSP With taxes, insurance, write-off, maintenance and such combined, the car costs me about 130 euro a month just to own. Add another 50 for petrol and 30-50 for electricity on top of that, and yes owning a car is rather expensive. However due to both my disability and my job, it's not optional for me to own a car. As a rail traffic controller, ironically, I'm not allowed to depend on public transit to get to work. Because when stuff goes wrong and I need to be at the control room ASAP, trains most likely aren't running at all or are running at reduced intervals. Also I just looked it up for a giggle, but for me to commute to work by public transit would set me back 97 euro a month for the bus and 114 euro a month for the train. That's about the same 200 ish euro I now spend on commuting by car. If I were to drop the bus from that equation and use my electric moped to get to the station it'd cost 245 euro per year for the guarded bicycle parking garage, or about 20 euro a month, plus the costs of the moped. The batteries have a finite life and aren't cheap to replace either. Even when going to the missus, which is 13km by car or 11 on moped, in either case about 15 minutes door-to-door. Because buses here always have to go down town first in order to make a connection, the only possible bus route is 28km, involves changing buses twice, and takes 70 minutes, bus stop to bus stop. For a grand total cost of 10,40 euro for a one way trip.

@martijnwo4840

9 ай бұрын

About a thousand people live in Appeltern. Two thousand live in Heumen. A large city is between them. The bigger problem is that bus service to Nijmegen is not adequate, so it takes way too long to get to the main transit network.

Yes , the orange pill is over the top. Public transport is ridiculously expensive . But you can't compare car ownership in the whole Netherlands with New York city .Obviously people in rural areas use more cars . And if you have to wait for a tram for 45 minutes means there's has been an accident .

@AllMustJump

10 ай бұрын

Ya, obviously you can’t compare “the whole of the Netherlands with New York City”, but the video never argued that. The video was comparing the Netherlands to New York STATE.

@BossXygman

3 ай бұрын

New York is the name of the state man

NEW YORK IS HYPE

Busses and trains are not exclusive to the big cities here and in most of Europe, practically every street had a bus stop and literally every city has a train station. Selectively comparing the two like this is an interesting way to go about this.

Never prouder to be from Queens

The really good thing about Dutch public transport is the OV-chipcard (the national public transport card) which is valid at all public transport (trains, metros, trams, busses, waterbusses, watertaxis, ferries, you name it) in the whole country. And the frequency of most trains, at least once an hour, mostly 2 an hour, in rush hours 4 to 8 an hour, and occasionally 10 an hour. But because the rail system is so busy, if something happens, the whole system goes in disarray, sometimes for days. Because trains are in the wrong place, train drivers can’t get to the trains on time (because they’re sometimes in another part of the country), trains are too short for the number of passengers on the platform etc. And don’t get me started on busses. In my town all express busses to the nearest cities have disappeared, leaving passengers to snail’s pace busses and many transfers to get to work, school or university. I’ve given up on busses and bought a car, which I use to go to the nearest train station.

@davidty2006

10 ай бұрын

britain has a few of those but dang we need something like a nationwide oyster.

@spiritualanarchist8162

10 ай бұрын

Really bad thing is that we have the most expensive public transport in the E.U

@davidty2006

10 ай бұрын

@@spiritualanarchist8162 atleast it's not the most expensive on the continent. Britain's is utter shite and hella expensive.

@spiritualanarchist8162

10 ай бұрын

@@davidty2006 Haha. True.

Joke's on you. New York IS (New) Amsterdam.

Time to move to NYC then

@lilacghoste8366

10 ай бұрын

Enjoy paying 1k and dealing with thugs

@Joesolo13

4 ай бұрын

@@lilacghoste8366 the money you save vs a car is worth it. Also, skill issue on the last part. Weak people acting tough because they can't handle the street

@lilacghoste8366

4 ай бұрын

@@Joesolo13 look at Tokyo and NYC, you are getting ripped off with NYC apartment by what you getting. The problem with thug is that they get away with their crime because of the careless American system the system security matters, it shows about the country and its mentality and view. Netherlands is safer than NYC as well, nobody is harassing in any city of Holland compared to NYC subway

@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45

2 ай бұрын

@lilacghoste8366 Thug hunters are profiting rn. Billions will do the thug shaker.

Fun fact: The population of NYC is about half that of the entire Netherlands, so comparing them actually makes a bit more sense than the entire US.

@TheScourge007

10 ай бұрын

The CSA (combined statistical area) population of NYC is about 23 million making it higher population than the whole Netherlands, over an area nearly the size of the Netherlands (13k sq miles for NYC vs 16k sq miles for the Netherlands). And so that's a good area of comparison. The broader New York area is not as good for bike infrastructure and isn't as good with intercity rail (though it beats most of the rest of North America on that) but does have better transit coverage in the core areas (basically NYC city limits and some of the immediate suburbs) than the Netherlands. So there is still some things (especially bike-related infrastructure) that the NYC area has to adopt, but some areas that it's currently superior at. A more complicated story than "orange good".

@MrMakabar

10 ай бұрын

Actually it is New York state and not New York City. So the population is roughly the same.

@makisekurisu4674

10 ай бұрын

Living car free in NYC is actually necessary right. You'd keep getting stuck in traffic otherwise.

@makisekurisu4674

10 ай бұрын

​​@@TheScourge007That's what I am saying, usa I believe have more europe like infrastructure than europe itself but nobody notices.USA is just ridiculously big. It's just the extremely rich and extremely poor neighborhoods that lack transit.

@joemayo8254

10 ай бұрын

Two million more people live in the New York City Metropolitan Area than in the Netherlands (19.6 million vs. 17.5 million), despite the former having 25 percent less land than the latter.

Dont forget about NS, an DB copy

NEW YORK BABY WHHOOOHOOO

ngl seeing the netherlands makes me a lil mad at myself for being too scared to learn to ride a bike 😂 it’s fine tho. idk if it’s too late to learn. i guess since im not 25 (when my brain finished developing) yet its not. though to be honest where i live isn’t really bike friendly.

@sammymarrco47

6 ай бұрын

you can always learn, you just gotta find someone that will help you.

@Thot_Patrol_USA

6 ай бұрын

@@sammymarrco47 yeah as soon as i move when i go to college i might

Why doesn't this vid show up in your list of videos?

The first and only time i went to the Netherlands i missed my flight to nyc because the train to schnipol was cancelled and i had to take a later one.

@vaska00762

10 ай бұрын

Rookie mistake - you should turn up to Schiphol 3 hours before your flight in case security takes forever 😂

What's the song in the second half of the video? it slaps

@alanthefisher

10 ай бұрын

All of the Lights - Kanye West

NY, excuse me?

New York City is an über-anomaly that skews how disgustingly car dependent Long Island and Upstate are. Also the whole state but especially the NYC Subway is devolving into a police state. Having been in the Netherlands for a week, even at its “worst” it still completely dumps on the US.

ok now compare 2 cities of equal population, new york has 10 times the amount of people.

The trend of online urbanism calling out doomerism content IS FUCKING AWESOME I WANT TO LOVE WHERE I LIVE

@charlesrodriguez7984

9 ай бұрын

Same!

hello from de small frog kuntry

Another thing: Denmark has decent public transport, and we're upgrading it, but our government is ultra carbrained and our rail freight system is pathetic. Seriously guys, just run cargo services to a few major stations every day. Allow the freight companies to access it. Like, come on. Anything. And we used to have a decent cargo network, but it was scrapped due to "not profitable, all transport must make money or close their business!!!!!!!!!11"

@frafraplanner9277

10 ай бұрын

The US could teach Denmark a lot about profitable freight rail

@placeholdername0000

10 ай бұрын

@@frafraplanner9277 Kinda, but it needs to fit into a network with loads of passenger traffic.

@tramcerik

Ай бұрын

Denmark be prioritizing freight rail going Germany-Sweden over domestic freight rail. And Still Swedish politicians can't improve capacity for more freight trains in the Scania region, atleast not before 2050, so there's a risk that there's gonna be a train clot which will be detrimental on commuting by train in the region. Hell they can't even agree on where the new connection underneath the Öresund should go (only one will really fix the freight rail capacity situation, and that's the project that is the least likely to happen)...

Rare New York W

The person that made this has never stepped outside of Netherlands. In my country pedestrian lanes have been demolished in favour of roads and people park on the sides. So people literally have to walk on busy traffic lanes and hope to not get squished. Walking under the hot scorching sun and a mouth full of dust feels great! As well as sand in your shoes!

Blud is onto nothing 🔥🔥

NL transit is extremely lack luster imo. definitely a pervasive attitude of "eh people will just bike"

@JimJonesBG97

10 ай бұрын

you're saying the Netherlands has lackluster public transit? Incredibly delusional

@liamtahaney713

10 ай бұрын

@@JimJonesBG97 Have you ever been outside of the rand? on one of their incredibly dirty, chronically delayed, and extremely expensive trains? on the words most expensive single tramline in Utrecht? Sounds like you've been watching too much NJB, buddy.

"You can't retrofit walkability on top of car dependency" When you consider that almost all trips taken by car are three miles or less, it actually is trivially easy, starting with bare bones painted bicycle gutters and moving up towards proper separated multiuse paths. You can also put abandoned strip malls and empty parking lots to better use to achieve the more walkable utopia, or do what Berkeley or San Francisco did and make all the car routes long and circuitous.

@Awesome_Aasim

10 ай бұрын

We can also fix cul-de-sac neighborhoods by adding walking paths between dead ends that no cars can cross. There are literally changes that can and have been made right now to immediately improve walkability.

@memunist5765

10 ай бұрын

As a Dutchman, I just want to say that multiuse paths are awful. As a cyclist you have to constantly dodge pedestrians and as a pedestrian you have to constantly look out for bicycles. Just keep them separated.

@Awesome_Aasim

10 ай бұрын

@@memunist5765 They are so much better though than the stroads prevalent in the US. In theory, pedestrians are supposed to be on the outside while cyclists ride on the inside, but I can certainly see how this can be a little confusing. The next logical step would be to build or expand sidewalks to segregate cyclists from pedestrians.

@lws7394

10 ай бұрын

@@Awesome_Aasim Stroads should have more than enough space to have a pavement and a bike path separate . On a urban street with streetlights more than 1 lane per direction are just superfluous redundancy ! When a streetlight can handle just 150 vehicles per hour per lane , it makes no sense to use more than 1 lane ... A 1x1 lane (with mid berm) street will enable also a lot more people to walk or bike places , as they are easier to cross.

New York AKA New Amsterdam (historically saying)

Luv me MTA

Three things that struck me while I visited the Netherlands from the UK fairly recently: 1. Just like us they're also having to deal with a lot of strikes. 2. The trains were pretty dirty - visibly grimy windows, overflowing bins, rubbish on the floor etc. The UK railways aren't a bastion of spotlessness but I'd never seen anything that bad. Might have been down to the well-publicised staff shortages though. 3. Some guy on a bike who was clearly too important to slow down for a pedestrian crossing the road. Perhaps there's _too many_ bikes in Amsterdam now? 🤪 NL might be a cycling utopia but it's distinctly average and not too dissimilar to the UK when it comes to trains (other than being cheaper, damn we get ripped off). It's Switzerland that's the train utopia!

@tcniatcniatcnia

10 ай бұрын

Weird, the trains in the Netherlands always felt more tidy and clean. Especially if we are comparing them to the underground lol. I always found the Netherlands to be cleaner in comparison to the UK.

@epender

10 ай бұрын

Train service in the UK is only really acceptable in the London/South of England region...

@ricequackers

10 ай бұрын

@@tcniatcniatcnia Oh the streets are cleaner, which was why it came as a bit of a shock on the trains! And I'm comparing the mainline trains here rather than the underground.

@thomasgray4188

10 ай бұрын

​@ricequackers mainline trains where I'm from come every 2-1.5 hours and often multiple 6 unit sets are substituded for 3 unit ones uk Main lines are very varied in service quality and the ticketing is byzantine.

@DenUitvreter

10 ай бұрын

The country is overstretched. The cycling in Amsterdam is victim to invasive species like scooters, e steps, skateboards, fat bikes, and the fact that half of the user aren't Dutch doesn't help either. They didn't grow up cycling from the age of at least 5, and they don't let a new generation of children grow up like that safely either.

i mean duh, new netherland > old netherland

lol shots fired

The bit about Jutrijp during that video certainly made me raise my eyebrow a bit because a 12 minute bus schedule for small rural towns is certainly not the norm in the Netherlands. In fact a big issue during the last provincial elections was about how regional public transport has been slowly cut to ribbons.

Public transit is great, bureaucracy sucks.

Lot of Dutch trains are not grade separated...and it is difficult to maintain good frequency with trains/trams that are not grade separated...because they have to slow down for safety reasons when crossing or in traffic. Slow trains mean poor frequency, because the same vehicle can't service more route miles per hour compared to a faster vehicle.

@wesleycanada3675

10 ай бұрын

You can still run them more because I’m even if it’s unpredictable a 2-7 minute wait is better than a 10 minute wait

@AaronSmith-sx4ez

10 ай бұрын

@@wesleycanada3675 But then you need more trains and that costs money. All things being equal...frequency is simply a function of train speed and route length. Train A that is twice as fast as Train B can provide twice the frequency. This is why frequency is paramount, and at-grade transit (buses/trams/trains), almost always cost so much and have such poor frequency. Speed is everything.

@vaska00762

10 ай бұрын

That moment you realise Dutch trains aren't even grade separated from boats

@wesleycanada3675

10 ай бұрын

@@AaronSmith-sx4ez sure but 5 minute average frequency in your city center is not crazy for the fares they are charging and non should be 20min

what’s the song in the second bit?

How can you own a car in New York when your landlord is already bankrupting you ?

Why fight NJB?

From phoenix and my local bus route runs at those frequencies and I know that they are better in other ways but if your comparable to phoenix saying it’s perfect is crazy

@roy_hks

10 ай бұрын

It’s not just about frequency. It’s about lines properly connecting to eachother and every single part of the city making the combination of walking and public transit favorable over cars no matter where in the city you work or live.

@wesleycanada3675

10 ай бұрын

@@roy_hks i understand that but it also is frustrating that people hold up eroupe as the holy grale of urbanism whenit can have problems too

@TheTrainTheoristOfficial

10 ай бұрын

Not even, the 3 Bus comes like every 10 mins. And they come in pairs.

@grahamturner2640

9 ай бұрын

@@TheTrainTheoristOfficial and the 72 is also fairly unreliable, no matter the day of the week, in my experience. Pretty much the only times I've taken that route with it being reliable and punctual is from north Scottsdale or around Rural/Southern. There was one time I was waiting for a 72 bus from the University/Rural light rail stop, and since it was taking so long, I hopped back on the light rail and took a different bus to where I was going. Some routes further out in the suburbs seem to be way more reliable.