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The N64 And The Overhyping Of Nostalgia
The N64 has oft been considered the greatest console of all time however, under closer inspection; it's quite the opposite.
Allow me to discuss why. In other words, watch as I dig my own grave
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Becoming an adult is admitting the ps1 is superior to the n64
@TMHLBPFan
3 ай бұрын
By a LONGSHOT. It's why I get my MegaMan games on PlayStation. I am NOT playing Mega Man Legends with that jank ass controller. 💀
The N64 isn't the "best" console ever, in fact it's incredibly flawed. That doesn't change how I feel about it. It was my first console and to this day my most nostalgic to revisit.
I think 90s nostalgia is the reason why 6th generation games are being forgotten.
@NitroIndigo
5 жыл бұрын
@@simpletonapollo9723 I meant by companies.
@DuelmasterX3
5 жыл бұрын
Nitro Indigo Them too.
@KermisVoyager1997
5 жыл бұрын
I actually like the Early 2000s a little better than the 90s.
@Maxxieuguu
4 жыл бұрын
KermisVoyager1997 2000’s is my fav decade! Even though i as only around for 3 years of it.
@trisky210
3 жыл бұрын
2000s stuff in general.
Also the Saturn had a controller with a 3D analog stick which released at around the same time as the N64, and that Saturn controller didn't have three handles, the N64 one did.
Fun fact: the PS1 was the first console to sell over 100 million units. Its main competition, the N64, sold about 30 million.
@supermariof0521
6 жыл бұрын
The N64 is basically that mainstream system with a cult following because back in its prime, it didn't have much of an audience. It was great for local multiplayer, but a con for everything else.
@xXSpongeBroBrownPantzXx
5 жыл бұрын
Chris Wuebbolt I don’t give a sh**! The n64 is so much more fun! It has Conker’s Bad Fur Day for fook sake!
@jacktsang05
5 жыл бұрын
Another fun fact. N64 graphics was smoother and didn't have texture polygon warping. Look at metal gear cut scene and see how many til as are warped and bending.
@Ballowax
4 жыл бұрын
all because nintendo decided to use cartridges on a game system, in in the late 90s
@redblack8766
3 жыл бұрын
OOF!
Superman 64 is the best N64 game because nostalgia. Thumbs up if you disagree.
@thefierycharmeleon164
5 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but I can't dislike this because it IS THE BEST GAME EVER!!!
@KermisVoyager1997
5 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is, The Beta Version was actually way better than the released game itself. It was actually a passion project but the company was forced to redo the game under a such a time constraint which is why the game was really shitty in it's final release state. Superman 64 is a tragic result of limitations imposed by other authoritative cuntpanies.
@somebodyoncerolledme7211
4 жыл бұрын
@@KermisVoyager1997 Sounds a bit like Spyro: Enter the Dragonfly, except that game probably would have been slightly, but not hugely, better with full control for it's developers.
I haven't really heard anyone call the N64 the greatest system of all time, it's always the PS2 and sometimes the SNES.
@beanenator
5 жыл бұрын
Snes is the best system ever and i can be proven scientifically. Lttp, mario world and super metroid by themselfs makes it amazing
@HollowRick
4 жыл бұрын
@@beanenator it's the best 2d console ever made but in terms of 3d has to go to the Ps2 imo
@alphatrion100
4 жыл бұрын
Ps2 is the best. SOOO many interesting games.
@Jordan-sn4mw
3 жыл бұрын
Snes is better but n64 is my personal favorite.
@britishguy54dx
2 жыл бұрын
@@HollowRick Nah. The PS2 has a quality library, but people go nuts for Nintendo and Sega nostalgia. The GameCube and even the Dreamcast have more memorable titles for some people.
Looking back at the N64, it feels like a Nintendo beta console that was 2-3 year from being done, and that is was an console which offered 20-30 games worth of buying. Because there were so many areas around the n64 that could have been made better, which you raised. While I found that large parts of the console's game library were very bad, with the exceptions being very few (Nintendo games, Rare) However, the things that make me remember the N64 as something special(Nostalgic) were the console's ability to push 3d gaming forward, the console's ability to push 4 player gaming, And getting to play some well-known ips based on varied tv/Movie franchises (Southpark, Superman, Star wars) Which was more than often bad.
@failingnovelist6443
3 жыл бұрын
90% of the N64's library was sadly very shitty.
@nibirbaishnabchannel4650
Жыл бұрын
only if there was a third zelda64 game which isn't a rom hack a mario 64 sequel a hello kitty game a nemo game a dora the explorer game half life 64 zimmy neutron 64 and klonoa 64
>2 years late to the party >can't do fmvs >cartridges therefore small storage meaning: >compressed sound aka bad sounding music >blurry mess >more expensive games you know what released 2 years after the n64 same way n53 released 2 years after thr ps1? the dreamcast
0:52 - I was born in 2001, and I prefer the PS1 over the N64 and prefer the Crash Bandicoot games over Super Mario 64 and Banjo-Kazooie (although I do like all those games).
@segaspice4062
3 жыл бұрын
You should have bought a Dreamcast
Over the years from watching many game reviews and footage of N64 games, I don't like the way these games look graphically? They're always blocky as hell with textures smeared everywhere in multiple directions and jagged edged polygonal environments. I would go as far to say most PS1 games look better. I never grew up with an N64, maybe I would have a different opinion otherwise, but I can't ignore this fact.
@supersmashmaster43
6 жыл бұрын
Both consoles have really aged horribly. PS1 games that are 3D usually have super pixelated textures and no texture filtering and the games have no Anti Aliasing, so the models are all jagged. There's only a handful of games that aged well, but those are games that didn't experiment with 3D, mainly 2D games. I really hate how the N64 didn't have much 2D games cause they wanted to push 3D so hard back then, but it doesn't mean there couldn't have been more 2D games.
@NitroIndigo
6 жыл бұрын
N64 games look smeary because it uses bilinear filtering.
@NitroIndigo
6 жыл бұрын
@thanks jk What?
@jonahabenhaim1223
2 жыл бұрын
It really depends on the artstyle of the game. snowboard kids has kinda aged well
My mate had a n64 his brother had a Saturn and I had the ps1. And I never felt envious of them.
@poudink5791
Жыл бұрын
The Saturn's library was maybe decent if you lived in Japan. Otherwise? Irredeemably bad. A couple of quality titles does not a good console make.
@dracogram9580
Жыл бұрын
Ah man,a Sonic fan can only dream of playing sonic X-treme on a Saturn,too bad that game never left development hell
Super Nintendo and PS1 were the golden age of RPGs/jrpgs.
It hurts, but it's really true. Almost every N64 game, I would rather play on Wii U Virtual Console or other platform if available. The only games I can think of that aren't broken by the N64's issues are my three favorite games on the system, Pokémon Stadium 1 and 2 and Pokemon Puzzle League... All of which use the D-Pad primarily and one of which is almost entirely 2D sprites and images
I was a 90's kid full stop. The 64 was trash. Had about 15 games worth playing, all by either Nintendo or Rare. It was a goldeneye/smash/mario kart machine and that's about it. The sheer amount of quality and variety on PS1 was incredible and the games were way, way cheaper. $20-30 vs $60. Dualshock bodied the n64 controller. If you were into RPGs at the time, PS1 had epic after fuckin' epic...
@obama_man9933
2 жыл бұрын
It also had Mario 64, ocarina of time, and majoras mask, but all of those game have had remakes that are overall better though
@trevor_mounts_music
11 ай бұрын
@@obama_man9933 That's 3 games to the PS1's DOZENS of classics. I mean I like those three as much as the next guy...but they still don't really tip the scales imo. No proper RPGs, no serious racing games like Gran Turismo or Colin McCrae Rally, no decent fighting games...I could go on.
This is why we play N64 games on emulators.
N64 fans when they realize the 10 good games have all been ported
I think the logic around the N64 controller was "We have to make this different to the PlayStation controller because we can't be like Sony" It's the same reason that the N64 uses cartridges instead of CDs, Nintendo welched on deals with both Sony and Philips - the patent holders to the CD format. Sony got the PlayStastion out of it, Philips got Mario games on the CD-i... I think Sony got the best deal. Also got to love the fanboy comparisons, give someone an N64 with two games and a PS1 with one game and they'd laugh at the console with one game... Yeah, if you give someone borm between 1995 and 2006 an Atari Jaguar with two games and an N64 with one game, they'll laugh at the N64. As for those saying that the N64 is the best console of all time... they're probably playing an emulator with upscaled graphics and an XBOX One controller.
@obama_man9933
2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say it’s even close to being the greatest of all time, but it was very revolutionary when it was made and some games are still enjoyable for me atleast, like majoras mask, I’ve beaten it on the Wii U virtual console version
@mattlarrubia
Жыл бұрын
your point makes absolute no sense, the PS1 controller is very similar to the SNES controller. Why would Nintendo make a controller different from their own design just because Sony did a controller that is similar to their previous controller? Nintendo tried to innovate with the analog stick but they didnt know how to design it. They made it better on the Gamecube. Its worth mentioning that the PS1 first controller didnt have analog stick, only the D-Pad. So no, they weren't trying to make the controller to be different from Sony's
@GeoNeilUK
Жыл бұрын
@@mattlarrubia "Its worth mentioning that the PS1 first controller didnt have analog stick, only the D-Pad. So no, they weren't trying to make the controller to be different from Sony's" So why was the N64 controller designed like that?
Even as a hardcore Nintendo fan, I totally agree the system is overrated. I think the SNES, GameCube, Wii, Switch, and yes, even Wii U better. The only system I like less than N64 is NES, but I still love NES.
@Treyworld
6 жыл бұрын
Actually I think I like the NES more than the N64. At least NES had a variety of games. Yeah it had a lot of crap games on it but the good ones are still loved and remembered. N64 has fewer good games and many of them have aged worse than people would want to admit.
@TheYoshiGamer
6 жыл бұрын
@@Treyworld That's a good point. And in fact, one of my favorite games of all-time is on NES: EarthBound Beginnings
@alternativefacts6801
6 жыл бұрын
Treyworld NES better than N64? I disagree!
@greeneye2037
4 жыл бұрын
What was wrong with the wii u ?
@BigSmoke-xh5hi
4 жыл бұрын
Wii U sucks, and the nes is definitely worse than the n64
I'm from Brazil and back in that generation me and my friends didn't even know the N64 existed. No stores held them or held N64 games. It was all PS1/PS2 (for a while they coexisted). I absolutely loved my PS1, and ended up loving the N64 games later on as a teen, but damn, the PS1 just beats it out the park.
I've had similar thoughts about the N64 in general, thank you for making this video. Most of the popular games for it have been remade and are arguably better It's the least of it's generation, but there's still enough great games that I think it's worth owning, I also think it's worth arguing that there are better third party controllers than the official one, and that makes a big difference. There are still great exclusives like mischief makers, the other Bomberman games, mystical ninja, Fzero, Crystal shards, and Paper mario.
You forgot the Dreamcast in the best consoles of all time
PS1 and Saturn (if you throw in imports anyway) are both on the whole superior consoles IMO.
@yamato-999
3 жыл бұрын
I think Saturn had more great games even without imports
I don't think people are nostalgic for the N64 itself. They're nostalgic for the times surrounding it and the memories they made with it. I was born in 1988. I got a N64 a little short of my 10th birthday in 1998. I'm a bit nostalgic for that era ('98-'00), and the N64 is just a part of that. I'm sure it's that way with most people, especially those who played it as a kid.
I grew up with the N64 and this is accurate. The PlayStation wasn’t anchored with technical limitations despite being less powerful. The sky was the limit if you made a game for it, while developing for the N64 was like navigating a minefield to even get the game to run.
You could say the N64 is one of the most influential consoles in popularizing 3D gaming. Not necessarily the best console, though, because of the reasons you said.
@GeoNeilUK
3 жыл бұрын
I'd say the PS1, which was out at the same time, was more influential.
There was a Hori controller released in 2001 at the end of the N64's life that is modeled after a GameCube controller. It is surprisingly comfortable and it makes the games wayyyyyyyy more fun.
"The N64 has oft been considered the greatest console of all time" By whom? It rarely makes the top 10 lists
Your take ia spot on. Owning an N64 was super frustrating, because my brother owned a PSOne and kept bringing home games like Tomb Raider, Tekken2, Silent Hill, Command and Conquer, MGS, Formula One, ColinMcRae Rally and on and on and on.
@chickenwings6172
Жыл бұрын
Resident evil 2 Capcom had Angel Studios make the game and was on N64 is the single greatest accomplishment in gaming history. Who is Angel Studios, none other then rockstar games.
@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502
Жыл бұрын
@@chickenwings6172 that's a massive stretch. It's certainly a very impressive technical feat, but "single greatest accomplishment in gaming history"? It's just a port.
@aceassn716
Жыл бұрын
It also cost about $100 as did Conkers Bad Fur Day
It wouldn't surprise if in the year 2030 you do a video called "Wii U and the overhyping of nostalgia"
@LasagaMan
3 жыл бұрын
I'd watch that, Nintendo failed hard for overrelying on nostalgia, and we all know why.
The people who think the N64 is the best system are the ones who actually think the abysmal game at best DK64 is good.
I never heard people said the n64 is the best console of all time. I usually hear people shit on it. Your opinion of the n64 is actually way too common.
@557deadpool
4 жыл бұрын
Not really
@bigolebot
Жыл бұрын
@@557deadpool yes it is.
Gotta say, you nailed down the biggest issue with N64: It consistently felt like these games were held back for a questionable trade-in.
It should be noted there TGX that there exist way better controller options to play 64 games with. Probably the best there is is a Hori MIni-Pad which has a gamecube-esque design to it. Everything about that controller was better and it significantly improved the overall experience with playing the games. And while I would have to agree that while the standard 64 controller, while isn't amazing, Is a compitant enough controller to make things work the way they should.
Gamecube is the best console ever made---**SHOT**
@nicoloenricorimoldi7425
6 жыл бұрын
It's surely Nintendo's best constructed console. It's a shame it didn't use regular DvDs.
@fogblades6811
6 жыл бұрын
Gamecube did have discs. But they were small.
@alternativefacts6801
6 жыл бұрын
Bomber Blurr Okay now I'm starting to believe the GameCube overrated.
@Nicolas-pw9eo
5 жыл бұрын
Current gen is the be--- *Gets hunged drawned and quartered*
@TreyTheWilliam
4 жыл бұрын
Dammit, that hurt.
I don't know how people think that the N64 excelled at anything over the PS1. Most notably JRPGS, the N64 has easily one of if not the worst JRPG lineup, while the PS1 had one of if not the best.
@geekgo4
5 жыл бұрын
JRPGS suck
@Chelaxim
5 жыл бұрын
@@geekgo4 Nice troll but you have several JRPGs on your playlist titled video games. A good troll sets there status to private so they can't be called out on there bullshit.
@kevinmiller8111
5 жыл бұрын
JRPGs are great, but absolutely nobody bought an N64 for them. My family went with the N64 over the PS1 due to the Nintendo IP, the same reason why the underpowered Switch still has a following in a generation with much more powerful competitors' systems.
@ExtremalMetal
4 жыл бұрын
But did n64 need JRPGs? As in, not from the business standpoint, but architecturally. It was made for games like Super Mario 64, quick loading and tight graphics, not much detail but stable and readable. It's just as weird as wishing for better first person shooter support on PSP/DS/GBA/pick-your-second-stick-less poison.
@mattlarrubia
Жыл бұрын
you know that there are genres in gaming other than JRPGs, right?
N64 was my second console, and I agree with everything you've said, and I've been saying the same myself for years. So much for nostalgia.
I had both back in the day. It was rare that I got a game for the n64 because they were always expensive where I was. Meanwhile, we used to go to pawnshops and pick up ps1 stuff for around $20.
I agree, as much as I love the N64 it makes sense the points you made. Especially the developers of the Mother franchise, Mother 3 was going to be on the N64 but was cancelled. Probably due to the N64's limited hardware.
@averagezoomer
6 жыл бұрын
Actually it was cancelled due to the GameCube releasing soon after development on earthbound 64 started.
As someone who still own a N64 and who grew up with it, it's safe to say time haven't been too kind on the N64 controller, mainly the control stick. Due to it causing blisters, this is the sole reason why I don't play the N64 anymore. Whether I'm going to head back to playing it is still up in the air but at this moment in time... er, no. I'll just stick to a console that DON'T give me blisters.
10:30 And arguably the Wii U. If you're a 2010s kid like me. I honestly feel bad many people never gave this console a chance. But for people born in the late 2000s, it's the best console ever made.
@britishguy54dx
2 жыл бұрын
I was born in the mid-2000s and I adore the Wii U. Being able to play NES, SNES, N64, GBA, DS and Wii games all in one, along with a slew of great exclusives. Granted, I much prefer the Switch, but damn I love the Wii U.
@RomanticRomeoCasanova69
3 ай бұрын
The difference between the failures of the two consoles is: Nintendo was at fault with the N64 and the ignorance of the public was at fault with the Wii U. N64 had very few games, no third party support and NO RPG's. The Wii U could have been successful but the herd mentality of the public ignored it for some strange reason.
Being born in 1998 I personally preferred the PS1 to the N64.
I think N64 didn't age the best but at least it aged better than the nes
@LavaCreeperPeople
Жыл бұрын
yes
Being born in 2003 I never played N64 games as a kid, I grew up with the Wii and DS. When I started to play retro games a few years back, I was always frustrated with how absolutely garbage Mario 64 feels to control compared with Galaxy or even Sunshine. It doesn't matter to me how revolutionary the game was at the time to me since I wasn't alive. I judge all older titles the same no matter what. It has always been a bit frustrating to me seeing KZreadrs hype up the N64 because of nostalgia. It's so funny to me as well that SNES games seem to hold up better than N64 ones, I guess the awkward jump to 3D didn't help with the games on the system. They're just so awkward and clunky compared to anything before or after them
@bubbythebear6891
3 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way about the SNES and N64 as you. The Snes is no doubt more fun, but I have a certain admiration for N64. I only ever played it at a friend's house, but it was just hard to get into. I admire, and have great respect for it. The third dimension was a whole new leap for gaming, so it was going to be a bit jankey. The SNES, while certainly inventive in it's own right, mostly improved what the NES did. I think the N64 would have faired better if it had some more 2D games that took advantage of the hardware rather than all 3D games.
@obama_man9933
2 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair the snes was made when they were making what they had better, it was just an upgraded nes, but the n64 was all new, they were just starting to experiment with 3d games
@TheFirehands150
24 күн бұрын
Well to be fair, Galaxy 1-2 is peak.
The thing is, if you have those games and can fulfill your sudden urge for nostalgia at anytime you think of it, of course the hype will be a little overboard. However, for someone who had these games, lost them, grew into a life where affording the games is doable however bills exists: ( I would love to sit there and replay some games from the N64 to see that dark fog that's like 20m out that looks super ominous but it's there to help the N64 handle graphics lol. Or like, how the flat textures gave me dreams. I remember the thumbstick for the N64 always being so fragile and dumb. Always getting loose. I would wrap the wire around the controller differently so that the thumbstick wouldn't be damaged. Or place it on the dresser with the controller up. Or like .. oh idk.
For me, the worst about the N64 is the lack of RPGs in comparison to the PsOne or even the Saturn
Featured some of the best games of all time, no nostalgia needed just good taste. Nothing overrated about it.
Ok, here's why you're fucking wrong. I'm kidding. A lot of your points are very right. the idea that they chose to stick with cartridges baffles me, any cross platform games, you're stupid to pick the N64 title over the others. My only real complaint is ripping apart the controller. a 3-pronged controller would be completely idiotic if it were ever intending for you to use all 3 prongs at once, which no game did. the way it's designed, it basically gives you 3 different ways of holding the controller, giving games the option to use 3 different control schemes(which no games really did, admittedly except for like, the Pokemon Stadium minigames). and while the thumbstick is in no way even passable by today's standards, "it was the first but it was the worst" is testament enough that it was a new idea and definitely needed work. Looking at the previous console's controllers, it was still an absolute step up. it was comfier to hold and had more options. Now, keep in mind I was a Playstation kid, not getting an N64 until I already had a Wii. the N64 in general was pretty weak, I'm gonna agree with you. I just think the controller is way undervalued.
Did you just say SM64DS plays better than SM64.....
@thisbox
6 жыл бұрын
Some people think that the D-Pad controls aren't that bad. But it's just a case to case scenario.
Disagree on the Super Mario 64 part. The DS version is far inferior because the controls are dogshit terrible. A dpad should never be used for analog controls.
@ainsbass
2 жыл бұрын
Disagree, I always played 3D platformers with a Dpad, especially on Ps1. Made precision far easier.
Mario 64 doesn't play better on the DS...there's no joystick on the DS and that game plays like shit on every controller.
Please do a video like this on the Wii. Most people who grew up on the Wii are between the age of 14 to 20 and nostalgia for it is kicking in. I grew up in the 8th gen with Wii U,3DS,PS4,and Xbox One so I REALLY HATE the stupid Wii fan boys who are blinded by nostalgia.
Born in that time-frame and i never liked n64 or its libary.
From the virtual boy the the n64… Nintendo really was grasping at straws to me back then.. overpriced carts, awful controller, how much was that expansion pak again?! FPS&Racing games were fun at least No Metroid or Punchout games either
Interesting perspective put forth by the video. I concede that mostly good points are made. However, I differ on the topics of load time & cut-scenes... it could be that I grew up on the n64 so it informed or set my opinions on this topic (or maybe I have ADHD, or a short attention span)... but I 100% abhor loading screens. Nothing makes me want to shut a game off and go outside more than waiting for a game to load. Never really cared for cut-scenes in games either, if given the option to skip them, I often do. Just my opinions here.
The graphics are so ugly and the controls were so bad, I can't stand to play most N64 games.
I remember back in 2013 when me and my younger brother attended an Anime Convention in Portland (said younger brother being born in 1995 like that example you mention specified). They had an N64 set up with Goldeneye and we decided to try it out. Suffice to say... we did not enjoy ourselves. The game itself aged like milk and the controller felt so unnatural in my hand, no matter how I held it it always felt wrong. Acting like anyone would choose the N64 over the PS1 with no prior knowledge of either is an idiotic argument because if that were the case, the N64 would have outsold the PS1 back in the day since we too had to choose between the two with no prior knowledge of either. It's fine if people think of it as THEIR favorite console ever, but to say it's the objective best is idiotic at best.
Great video and great arguments. That's all I gotta say. I will say the GameCube was hindered by design too, but it was much worse with the N64.
@jeftar3po372
6 жыл бұрын
Pedro Gonzales The small discs. That held games back buddy. I said the N64 was a lot worse. I will say GameCube at least had discs this time and had a competent controller. The small ass disc storage compared to other consoles. It's not a bad console, but that hurt the GameCube a lot.
@jeftar3po372
6 жыл бұрын
Pedro Gonzales That's why I said N64 was way worse. The only thing holding the games back was disc storage. You make a fair argument as to why GameCube is a decent or even good console which I say it would be. All the 6th gen consoles were good.
@toone1562
3 жыл бұрын
@Pen Bashiro, MD have you seen NFS most wanted on gamecube compared to ps2? Prime example
And all of this isn’t even mentioning the borderline extortionist prices for C.I.B N64 games past the most common titles out there (unless you understand Japanese writing and get the games and console imported, or be offered an unintentional bargain from a clueless seller who doesn’t know their value).
I'm glad someone other than me thinks this. While the N64 is often considered to have one of if not the greatest libraries of all time by a lot of people. I feel as though people always forget just filler titles on the system I.E 1/3 of the library consisting of racing games and sports titles.
This controller has three prongs. I have two hands. ... ... ... I can't cope!
The GameCube is objectively better than the N64 in nearly everyway. It's my favorite console, yet I don't relentlessly say why it's the best console ever made. I'm not going to say the PS2 was worse because it wasn't, just that I personally prefer the GameCube to it since I like the games on the later more. Sunshine, Prime 1 and 2, Pikmin 1 and 2, TTYD, Wind Waker, Fzero GX, Mario Party 4 and 6, and the list goes on
@obama_man9933
2 жыл бұрын
It came after, of course it is
Ocarina of time was even low key panned back in '98. It was the absolute worst offender with the smeared textures and ugly NPC models. The color palette looks like it literally was taken from a pub toilet stall. All the promises from the 64DD version of a world that remembers all you changes and interactions were broken. The story was panned because it was bare bones and confined to text boxes. (MGS came out the same time). Kids 14 and under didn't have a hope in hell of finishing it without a complete walkthrough necause of its obtuseness.
I think that using the CD would not save some of the most varied flaws of the Nintendo 64 such as the low number of polygons, the limited cache for textures (it would not help to improve much in the graphics). The fact that it doesn't support RGB and also the fact that it doesn't have a dedicated sound chip. Not to mention that games at 60 frames almost don't exist on this console, especially if we compare it to the Sega Saturn and PlayStation. The 3DO M2, which was supposed to come out at the same time as the Nintendo 64 (if Panasonic hadn't given up after seeing the success of the PlayStation) would be much more impressive.
These are pretty solid arguments, although I disagree with the controller argument. It's not the best controller by any means but the games for the most part, knew how to design themselves around them. Even the analog stick works pretty well for games like Mario 64 or Ocarina of time (I've tried playing emulations and the GameCube version of Ocarina and found them to control much worse than on the original hardware personally). But the hardware was a solid enough argument, that in my opinion applies to pretty much all of Nintendo's consoles (excpetions being the SNES and GameCube to a lesser extent)
I prefer the PlayStation over the N64, but I still love a lot of the games on the N64.
@averagezoomer
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah the games on N64 are really good but they are hindered by the problems he mentioned in the video.
Spider-man on N64 absolutely has voice acting. just not in the comic cutscenes
TGX as much as I will agree with you on the N64 controller because it's very flimsy, but what happens if I try to buy used PS1 game and it has a lot of scratches? This is why I hate CD based consoles, and don't tell me I need to go to a game expo because there's not one near me, and don't even tell me to fix them or go to the library to fix them because there's no library near me nor ways to fix.
The N64's library isn't great, in fact, it's the console's biggest weakness by far, with just over 300 games to choose from, most of which are very poor quality cash grabs or several different versions of the same sports games (practically none of which have stood the test of time). In fact, you could argue that the N64's library is worse than the NES's, and I'd say it's not just worse, it's worse by far. The NES is no wonder, many of the games are low-quality ports compared to the arcades of the time, but at least we have a more or less varied range of styles. If I had to spend time in prison and had to choose between the NES and the N64, I would choose the NES without thinking twice, with all those arcade games, shooters, 2D platformers and even puzzles and RPGs, I would have acceptable options for a long time, much more options than the N64 and its blurry and obsolete games, running at 20 fps with monstrous input lag.
But it's the most googly eyed of all the systems which has been unmatched since.
From my perspective, I never really liked the N64 (Not that it's bad, but it doesn't catch my interest as the PS1, and can't say anything about the Saturn because I don't have it yet) Aside from both Zeldas and Smash, nothing gets my interest, or left a bad impression. Not a fan of MK64's control movement, feels off SM64's movement issues, like turning and overall movement it may be the first 3D game, but that doesn't automatically gives it a pass). The RARE titles haven't found enjoyment out of them (especially Goldeneye 007 and DKR), but Banjo Kazooie was the most tolerable one per say. Even thou that OOT is my favorite N64 game, it has its own issues.
Still keeping 64 in my name (never play a N64 so I can't judge you)
PS1 is way better, Better controller Better games CD quality audio More games
@ironinquisitor3656
6 жыл бұрын
While the PS1 was not the most powerful console it was still a beast. Great exclusives and a lot of hidden gems.
@jacktsang05
5 жыл бұрын
Had both and it's a tie. N64=better graphics and fantastic local mul tgames. Ps1= answer amount of games and rpgs
I have never honestly seen anyone say that the N64 is the greatest console of all time. Some called it their favorite, yes, but never the greatest. You say the N64 is terrible as a console, but has a great library. Saying that the D-pad was useless in 95% of games is probably an exaggeration. These are the 5 N64 games I like the most (in alphabetical order): Banjo-Kazooie Diddy Kong Racing Mischeif Makers Paper Mario Wonder Project J2 (good game in unexpected place inspite of the system it's on and that TGX "can't fucking stand anime in most cases")
I've never been someone to complain about graphics or framerates, but when it comes to the N64 I can absolutely NOT play it due to getting motion sickness and headaches. Doesn't matter if it's on the console itself or emulated. It's the only console that gives me these symptoms. Therefore, I am physically unable to play the console and therefore it's library of games. I'd love to play OoT and MM and I've tried suffering through the motion sickness but I just couldn't do it past the first dungeon in OoT. I may try those 2 games on the 3ds but I can't seem to get a clear answer if the games look and run better on the 3ds. I think it may be the blurry and stretched out textures that most N64 games loved to have, but I can't pinpoint the issue.
Everyone knows the N64 is a flawed console so I'm not sure who this video is directed at aside from a few N64 fanboys. I don't think Nintendo had any clue how important CGI and voice acting were going to become, as Nintendo has always just made video games and never focused much on story or the cinematic elements of games. I never had a problem with the N64 controller but then again I'm not a stickler for controllers. Imo the biggest issue with the N64 was a lack of 3rd party support and certain genre's (fighting, RPG) being terribly underrepresented.
Funny thing is that on the N64, the cartridges are a hindrence, CDs where moch better, the cartridges where fucking massive, on the Switch, the cartridges are a plus, they can hold a lot of data, I don't know how it compares to a blue ray but it's enougth for the games to run, especially when you can buy a 128GB SD card on top of the 32GB the console nativelly have to just stock pile updates, save data, extra content and DLCs, even full games, the cartridge allows for shorter loading times and they are so small, this is both a pro and a con, they are small enougth to be easilly lost or slide down under furnitures in retarded places, but you can have about a hudred games in a jacket pocket.
there's need to be a video like this about the wii u.
If you're playing Goldeneye or Perfect Dark, for the love of God please use the 1.2 control scheme. Movement on the dpad, looking on the stick. Almost modern
While I am not a big fan of the N64, even back then I thought it had a very narrow library of interesting games, I think the argument that controls hinders the game is unfair. You have the benefit of criticizing it after controls evolved and streamlined into what we have today. Hindsight is 20/20. I can tell you when we were playing Goldeneye, outside of the tired keyboard and mouse argument, no one thought the game was lacking because it could have controlled better. No one thought of a second stick and the scheme we have now. And honestly using the C buttons to strafe wasn't all that bad. I can still go back and play it smoothly today.
@RegretfulDeadMan
4 жыл бұрын
No, there were fundamental improvements in videogame controls that needed to happen. The N64 came before those changes, so once those changes were implemented, everything before it became obsolete and poor by comparison. If say, the steering wheel in cars used to be done with a lever, but then the steering wheel was invented and made steering 100X easier, nobody would use the lever if the wheel were available; and sure as hell nobody would try and defend the lever over the wheel. It doesn't matter what hindsight is, most N64 games play worse than modern counterparts or remakes fundamentally. Context or not, hindsight or, that is an undeniable fact that hinders the games system wide. It's not unfair, it's reality.
@corvettez06usa
4 жыл бұрын
@@RegretfulDeadMan But until the steering wheel came about, all people would know is the lever. It's only when they get the steering wheel can they go "huh, this is way better than the lever." It goes into the argument that surrounded RE2's remake and the tank controls of the older game. Or even take Tomb Raider. 3D was new, but our idea of how to control a character was still being developed. RE2 had tank controls in part due to the fixed camera, but it wasn't until Devil May Cry that Capcom thought about making directional input relative to camera and not the character. Tomb Raider was developed for a Dpad. To say "well 10 years later we came up with better 3D controls so they're bad" is an odd position to take. You have to look at it in its contemporary setting imo
@RegretfulDeadMan
4 жыл бұрын
Let me put it this way, being obsolete is excusable, but it's not an excuse. It doesn't matter what the "then" was because we don't live in then, we live in "now"
@ainsbass
2 жыл бұрын
Criticising controls of the N64 is not unfair, especially considering other controllers of the era did not have the same self-inflicted issues.
imagine actually liking nintendo
@RayTheSnivy
2 жыл бұрын
imagine having opinions
@obama_man9933
2 жыл бұрын
As a company I hate them, atleast in recent times, but they do make really good games, not so much recently though
@LavaCreeperPeople
Жыл бұрын
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I was born in 2007 and I prefer Banjo-Kazooie and Mario 64 over Crash Bandicoot. So what does that tell you.
Like your videos but this one i have to disagree on many points. I grew up with both ps1 and n64 during their launch. I agree that ps1 was more cinematic and crisp sounding, but the 3d graphics was horrible with the warping polygons. The floors, walls, sky all warp and misaligned when you move just a bit. This is not the case w the n64. Also load time is non existent in the n64. If you want to talk about wrestling games, nothing can compare to what was available on the n64, come on THQ. What ps1 have over the N64 is just the sheer amount of games and course the RPGs. As for the controllers, neither myself or the group of friends that I game with back then ever mentions anything about the controllers. It was just something we were able to transition without a thought of what was better, ps1 or n64. The controllers just worked for whatever we were playing. Either way I am a fan of both console and controller and do have a large collection of games for them that I still play to this day. I do t know understand why most people think it's that hard to use the n64 co trolled nowadays. Mario 64, wave race, starfox...Still great w the o controller.
I happen to like the N64 controller 🤷♀️ Its not for everyone, though. and to be fair ive modded mine with a Gamecube style stick so you are correct in hating it lol
They said the cartridges were due to piracy that is also why the gcn uses mini cds and the wii & wiiu DONT have dvd support
I loved my N64 growing up but over the years I don't return to much of the games, even the first party ones. I was jealous of my friend's playstation, we were sort of family at that time, and he let me play it a lot. I didn't get a PS1 until 2000, that's how late to the PS I was. I got my first PS2 in 2005 and the PS3 in 2009. So I have always been late to Sony's consoles.
I personally grew up with both the N64 and PS1, and so to anyone who says that anyone if forced to choose between the two that they would laugh at the PS1, I completely disagree. I loved the PS1 far more than the N64. Honestly, the only two games I cared for on the N64 were Super Smash Bros. and Mickey's Speedway USA, and yes, I did have Banjo-Kazooie, Mario Kart 64, and some Pokemon games, but I never liked Pokemon, didn't really care too much for Banjo-Kazooie (playing it now on my Xbox 360 I care for it more now, but even then, it's not a game that I love by any means) and even as a child I thought Mario Kart 64 was boring, thus the reason why I played Mickey. Seriously, the PS1 was so much better. Crash Team Racing is still in my opinion probably the best kart racer ever, I loved Crash Bash, Rampage, Spyro, and a bunch of games that I honestly can't remember the names of (but still have left an impact on me). So, as someone who grew up with both, the PS1 is far better, something I even as a 6 year old who couldn't even beat children's video games on the easiest level knew (mainly due to the fact that the PS1 had a much bigger impact on me, and had far better games).
Maybe for the time it was revolutionary but looking back yeah it's a mess
The favoritism at the time especially in reviews and the revisionist history is the reason this needs to be said. Honestly ff7 should have the legacy of a witcher 3 but we all have to pretend OOT is the greatest game ever because fan boys. If you're a younger person getting into retro gaming you can pretty much skip all but 15 games of the n64 library. But you wouldn't know that if you paid attention to the zeitgeist. While retro gaming is a different beast because you never know how a game is going to hit 25 years later. Would I recommend resident evil 1 or mgs, no I'd probably tell you to play the gamecube version. Would I sing the praises of games that have better iterations later like front mission probably not. But there is a laundry list of ps1 games that are great even by today's standards. Re2 and 3, parasite eve 1 and 2, ff7 8 9 tactics, suikoden 2. And the thing is there is a lot more like probably more than 50. Even now I found out persona 2 had an unreleased game translated years later and is it for everybody? No but as a fan of rpgs I'm enjoying the shit out of it in 2021. Why does this matter because if I was a kid today and people told me the n64 was better than the playstation and the best thing since sliced bread. Then I try it and walk away feeling like that was dogshit. Well if that was the best the 5th gen could do, why would I even bother looking into the playstation.
@mattlarrubia
Жыл бұрын
FF7 has a very good legacy but it's not a innovative game in any sense. The only thing it had going for, when compared to the previous FF games, were the CGs. The story is also not the best on its own system, games like FFT or Xenogears had a lot more going for.
@monkeyinalamborghini
Жыл бұрын
@@mattlarrubia Eh it's production values allowed it to be a break out hit. Popularized Jrpgs. Like FF6 has great pixel art but in battle it's literally jpegs and slash marks. To me it's like mass effect or ES oblivion. A great developer goes for mass appeal and nails it without streamlining everything good out of their game. The game is pizza, square got it in everybodies hand's and it's great. You could prefer FFT, Xenogears, chrono cross, parasite eve. None of them were going to sell 10 million copies. I'm not delusional other games are as good but this one is the geraldo of rivera.
@mattlarrubia
Жыл бұрын
@@monkeyinalamborghini It is a great game indeed, and deserves the hype it gets. But its not revolutionary, having great production values and graphics doesn't mean that the game brought something new gameplay-wise, it certainly didn't. Just like The Witcher 3 didnt, despite being another great game. Ocarina of Time did, there wasn't anything like it on the PS1
@monkeyinalamborghini
Жыл бұрын
@@mattlarrubia That's kind of magical thinking, we could play a semantic game about what makes a videogame innovative and I could try to satisfy your conditions. I'll get back to this. Revolutionary not really. On ps1 there was alundra and I'm sure a few other zelda clones. I'll give OOT that, it was innovative and different, if other companies could of made a zelda game they would have tried. But it didn't have the influence of tony hawk for extreme games genre or resident evil for survival horror. I think zelda did a few new things but looking at gaming as a whole it's hard to find a new mechanics that didn't exist somewhere. Zelda going 3d is probably as big a deal as grand theft auto going 3d and maybe returnal although I haven't played it. PS1 didn't have the hardware to make a 3d game like zelda, N64 didn't have the storage to make most ps1 games. Brave Fenser musashi is probably as close as you'll get. But I judge games on quality. I played a bit of OOT and if you're telling me OOT is better than gran turismo 2 or metal gear solid. To quote ron burgundy "I don't believe you". N64 had an amazing launch but squaresoft probably had more talent and was on their level. Namco with tekken, capcom with resident evil, konomi with sotn and metal gear. Point being after square left nintendo, fans were left with mario and zelda, so to justify their purchase they started getting irrational with rating those games. At the same time the people who made chrono trigger, ff6 and super mario rpg were now not as good as nintendo. I've seen lots of developers go on crazy runs bethesda, square, bioware, capcom, sega, from software. I'd never make the argument that ES oblivion is head and shoulders above everything else because magical, magic.
The N64 controller is one of the biggest POS I've ever had the displeasure of using. You need 3 hands to properly operate the thing.
I never owned an N64 myself so I have no nostalgia but I've played the games and its one of my favorite Nintendo systems.
N64 games shown in order: WWF No Mercy, Mario Kart 64, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Bomberman 64, Super Mario 64, F-Zero X, The Legend Of Zelda Ocarina Of Time, Banjo-Kazooie, Diddy Kong Racing, GoldenEye 007, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3, Spider-Man,
@kirbyman1kanden7pf
Жыл бұрын
that's not Bomberman 64
Ps1>sega saturn>n64
Honestly, the moment someone has to say, "You don't like it because you didn't grow up with it," that says more about the thing they're talking about than the person they're talking about it to. If you "had to be there", if you cannot go back to something and honestly say, "Yup, this is still great," then it's not timeless by any means, especially when something like the Nintendo 64, the PlayStation 2, or - to a lesser extent - the Xbox 360 is home to some of the worst ways to play the majority of its library (with some Ratchet- and Jak-riddled exceptions).
Has anybody ever played the sega saturn? I would say alot of those game have aged well, specifically the 2d games
To be fair the reason the N64 controller is a plastic trident, is supposedly because the idea was that during the transition from 2d to 3d some game developers that make 2d games would like to use the d-pad and ignore the joystick, while 3d game devs would use the joystick and ignore the d-pad. So if a game used the d-pad as it's primary means of movement you could use it and the L button, but if a game wanted you to the joystick you could use it and the Z button. Admittedly it was an answer to a problem that didn't really exist, but at least now we there was at least SOME logic behind the thing. The quality of that logic though... well I'll let you decide that. Also, the reason people consider the N64 to be the best console EVAR, has nothing to do with the console itself, and everything to do with the library that came with that console.
Lol no the n64 was the greatest console console of all time and your wrong ( With no notifiable evidence)
@doraeguyakaneddie6586
4 жыл бұрын
@Mimikyutube YT its a joke In the video tgx says this exact message
I could apply several things that were agressively overhyped due to nostalgia but don't actually hold up well. 1) The first three seasons of MLP (Mostly just Season 1) 2) Sonic Unleashed (Its just a tedious chore both during the day and during the night) 3) "Thomas and the Magic Railroad" (Yes "Thomas the Tank Engine" had a movie) 4) "The Powerpuff Girls Movie" (Its just a dragged out origin story. No wonder it bombed) 5) "Phineas and Ferb" (Perry the Platypus was the only enjoyable thing about that show) 6) "An American Tail: Fievel Goes West" (Have you people even seen the original?) 7)The "Super Mario Bros." movie (Its not even so bad its good anymore. Its just painful.) 8 ) Disney direct to DVD sequels. (While some like "Lion King 1 1/2" are actually good, some people try (and fail) to convince me that "Beauty & the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas" was a god sequel. My point is that nostalgia should NEVER be a deciding factor. Sooner or later people will realize that what they liked as a kid, may not be that great when they are older. If you still like what I listed as a guilty pleasure, that's fine, but if your gonna try and convince me that they are objectively good, your just shooting yourself in the foot.
@djmeagaaim17
5 жыл бұрын
I agree with the number 5, it was a very average show
@supermariof0521
5 жыл бұрын
@@djmeagaaim17 The only thing I liked about that show was Perry the Platypus.
I'm a ps1 baby but n64 I still enjoy especially with it's multiplayer library. Every system has good games and bad ones. I haven't collected a bad console yet I don't think. Even the Sega saturn has good games
Rakugakids takes over a minute to load because it has so many sprites. If it was on PS1, what would it be like?