Well, that leaves us with the question: why did they make it so the game over screen never appears when the flag is on? It looks to me like there's more that can be researched on the effects and causes... :) Great video, by the way!

@RockabyPlays

6 жыл бұрын

DaVince21 while definitely not confirmed, the general consensus right now is the game treats "unconsciousness" as a status ailment, and doesn't know how to respond when OSS is on and all the kids have this game ending status ailment.

@stochaztic

6 жыл бұрын

I do have another theory on why this is the case. After a scripted battle, the "battle subsystem" gives the "script subsystem" back a code stating whether the player won or lost the battle, so the script can branch down two different paths depending on the outcome. While this isn't used in the actual game for anything like this, preventing the normal Game Over effect would have allowed for a non-game-over event to occur if you died; for instance, if you lost to the fight outside of the Happy Happy shack, they could have made it so you wake up outside alone with 1 HP, and Paula is locked back in the cabin. In the actual game, OSS is actually on during this battle; but the script afterwards either makes Pokey do his movement and turns OSS off if you win, or just turns OSS off if you lose to make normal game-over happen. But the potential exists in the code.

@Logan-hx3md

5 жыл бұрын

I have no real evidence but maybe because OSS is on, Death is counted as a status effect? The game (I assume) checks for the death status of all characters to load the game over effect. Because OSS is off, the game just assumes your party members are dead (with all the properties of being dead, such as no PSI) While also assuming that the party members who entered the fight alive have not changed their condition

@WasabiKitCat

5 жыл бұрын

My best guess is that it thinks being knocked out is a status condition, because your party members are shown as ghosts on the overworld if they've been knocked out. That'd explain why your whole party is shown as ghosts during the glitch.

@Pirlo926

5 жыл бұрын

well, if you use the debug menu to make everyone in your party unconscious, or remove everyone from your party, a glitchy game over occurs. it seems that with everyone in the party unconscious after a battle, the screen remains black so the textures can be loaded properly for the game over, and OSS prevents the game from allowing statuses to do anything, resulting in a black screen until a new room is loaded.

This man really made a great Earthbound video and said "alright imma head out" and never made anything else.

@MrMarxy

2 жыл бұрын

We need to revive him

@romajimamulo

2 жыл бұрын

He's too busy making stuff for Stephen George. He shows up on Stephen Plays a lot

@em5345-

2 жыл бұрын

And plus, he's been working on his project, the EarthBound Randomizer (which I believe started the same year this video released), which had it's 50th update this month, so he's still on the internet, just not on KZread at the moment.

@GSoulNight

2 жыл бұрын

Chad Grindset

@Robo-pump

Жыл бұрын

@@GSoulNight Gigachaz

The 3 moles are actually the same Mole Playing Rough and he's been chasing you the entire time.

@PKPrometheus

5 жыл бұрын

Amazing plot twist

@weet294

5 жыл бұрын

He's fucking mad. He got pissed you kept beating him and he's there to kill you every single time, whether it be directly or indirectly.

@OmegaCKL

5 жыл бұрын

Mole: B*tch I don't care if you can beat me to a pulp I have a trump card... THE OSS FLAG! Ness: NUUUUUUUUUUUU

@thease2096

5 жыл бұрын

Mole: I have a specific set of skills. Skills I've aquired over a very long career. Of being a 100% enemy. If you don't bump into me again until Deep Darkness, that will be the end of it. But if you don't, I will find you. And I will probably not kill you.

@SpoRkManiac

5 жыл бұрын

it's a revenge story

They're the other 3rd strongest moles.

@misspurdy27288

5 жыл бұрын

Ryan Hernandez no they’re the second and first

@Skiznefrik

5 жыл бұрын

Well, the Mondo Mole is probably the 2nd strongest mole and the moles from the gold mine are actually the number 1 moles.

@billlllllllllllll

5 жыл бұрын

the mole is an egg

@bakrobertjohnston4889

4 жыл бұрын

Ryan Hernandez they are the strongest moles in the game

@hardlyanydiggity3953

Жыл бұрын

4th strongest mole

This implies that killing moles will give you sunstroke, and that's exactly how it happens in real life.

@PassTheSnails

5 жыл бұрын

Wh

@c4rt00nk1d

5 жыл бұрын

It's funny how nature do that

@ethanhampl1520

5 жыл бұрын

Lol

@TomateFelizXD

5 жыл бұрын

:V

@S0L3SURV1V0R

4 жыл бұрын

👁👄👁

The true Third Strongest Mole.

@zekethezekenator3163

5 жыл бұрын

No, it is the strongest mole

@ryandennison8754

5 жыл бұрын

THINK ABOUT IT. The No. 3 Moles are all tied as the strongest moles. The Sanctuary Guardian in Happy Happy Village is the second strongest, therefore, THIS IS THE THIRD STRONGEST MOLE. Or seventh, if we’re counting all five of the No. 3 moles. >_>

This is one of my favorite games and I never even thought twice about this mole. Great video!

@BatterMontaguemusic

4 жыл бұрын

yooo whang

@indigowendigo8165

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Whang!

@nathantheman5572

3 жыл бұрын

Based Whang

@7niahceulb

3 жыл бұрын

I've wondered about it. Just never thought I'd ever get an answer.

@Bluematchhead

3 жыл бұрын

Holy shit! It's Whang!

Wow. I assumed the moles existed just to be a quirky funny Earthbound thing. I love that they actually serve an under the hood purpose!

@goatbone

5 жыл бұрын

I have played through a few times and they never stood out to me haha

@Kevinilos

4 жыл бұрын

they add mobs for the lols, like the depressed yellow man or rocklobster in mother3

@SurmenianSoldier

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kevinilos He is named Negative Man

@cupofspiders5830

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Thought it was just a cute little mole, but the magic mole lets you have sunstroke. YaAAaaaaAaaaaAAAAAy!!! Sunstroke! It’s fascinating.

@Flamsterette

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kevinilos There's no enemy called The Depressed Yellow Man.

"...if they lost to the third strongest mole." Which one?

@megasparklegoomba6807

4 жыл бұрын

Hostius Hostilius the third strongest, obviously. Which other one?

@psiness1464

4 жыл бұрын

The one that is stronger than the 4th strongest mole,and weaker than the 2nd strongest mole.

@S0L3SURV1V0R

4 жыл бұрын

The one that’s roughly in the middle

@adaslothland850

4 жыл бұрын

(Screams in confusion)

@pkmngamer1236

4 жыл бұрын

The one you fight after the strongest mole, the second strongest mole, the fourth-strongest mole, and the fifth strongest mole. He is truly the third strongest mole.

I love how game devs sometimes fix issues with games like this. "there is a glitch with the game over, we need to go through the whole code to fix it. Or we just place a mole there ." XD

@want-diversecontent3887

3 жыл бұрын

No I think it was more like "I want them to be able to explore in the desert before this point without getting sunstroke." "Well, let's use the OSS flag." "Ok, but we need them to be able to fight the other enemies." "Hmm...a textbox would be weird. What about a battle?"

FUN FACT: When walking horizontally, there is a programming error in the game that causes it to use spawns from a column of spawn plates that is shifted one row too high. This allows you to instantly despawn the mole spawned by the 100% plate in dusty dune. Instead of going around the top of the drugstore, walk left down the road until you're past the "drugs" sign, make sure you're on the close to the top edge of the road, then walk past the sign and up. The mole will often get spawned in too early and instantly get despawned due to being too far off-screen.

Honestly, this is an amazingly detailed and comprehensive video. Feels very natural too. Like someone who's been doing this kind of content for years. Fantastic job. People eat up interesting little facts like this, so keep it up!

@creeperfacekao

5 жыл бұрын

Ayyy I love your content and I didn’t expect to see you here!

@reesewhittington6778

5 жыл бұрын

*_DID YOU DO THE SUPERGUARD_*

@DarthFox

5 жыл бұрын

@@dislikeablemelon9991 False, KZread is dumb and downvotes do nothing.

@SenshuRysakami

5 жыл бұрын

Can confirm, I use RPG maker all the time and so this bit was very interesting!

@vantasm

5 жыл бұрын

Holy shit, Fatguy, you're still alive

This theory is further proven by the deep darkness being right next to that one Mole Playing Rough. If I had to guess, sunstroke probably occurred on the beach at some point, and was cut.

@swagar

6 жыл бұрын

Introbulus That would make sense. Have you seen what happens when you get a status ailment like sunstroke or a cold and get that "health is critical" text box while you're on a flight of stairs, much like the stairs in Summers? It glitches to the point where you can walk off the map.

@goatbone

5 жыл бұрын

Havent played in a while sorry, what event occurs in Deep Darkness that is related to this?

@Introbulus

5 жыл бұрын

If you watch the video through, you'll notice that they mention taking damage in the Deep Darkness - that would be what I'm referring to. Adding a Mole Playing Rough there guarantees that there'll be an enemy encounter to re-trigger proper map-side effects.

@goatbone

5 жыл бұрын

Ah yes I was distracted when watching that section of the video. Thanks/

@sfc0450

5 жыл бұрын

A little fun fact that I discovered way back in the day: At the beginning of Deep Darkness, there's a very tiny spot near some plants where you'll play the sweating animation if you stand there, but I have never been able to get sunstroke from it before. I get the impression that maybe it's a remnant of an earlier version of that area?

"everything else in the desert is 10%" *Literally the next spawn point is a 90% magic butterfly*

@datpoyo4900

4 жыл бұрын

Now I Can Cheat My Way To Level 60 Before Fighting The Mani Mani Statue.

@knox1392

4 жыл бұрын

@@datpoyo4900 Stop Typing Like This It's Obnoxious

@datpoyo4900

4 жыл бұрын

@@knox1392 it's been 2 months,and i trying to stop typing like that

@datpoyo4900

4 жыл бұрын

@First Name Done

@SurmenianSoldier

4 жыл бұрын

@@datpoyo4900 Dat poyo i like you

wow great job man! I learned so much!

@malik87breaker

5 жыл бұрын

Shesez hi. :D

@jeremyaster7470

5 жыл бұрын

Heyo dude

@flashswagton

5 жыл бұрын

169 likes lol

@thebulbamachine4789

3 жыл бұрын

Why does this sound sarcastic?

@user-vs9ds3dc2y

2 жыл бұрын

@@thebulbamachine4789 fr 💀

Wow, I've always wondered why that specific mole was there, but never would have guessed that game over glitch had anything to do with it! This game is like, what over 20 years old, and people are STILL making discoveries about it? That's amazing! This was really informative, thank you!

I assumed at one point that the mole existed to give you extra finances in case you're lacking some. This is actually a lot deeper and even explains one of the more perplexing glitches in the game.

@clubi56

5 жыл бұрын

I'm all ears for that explanation, if you wouldn't mind

@e-mananimates2274

5 жыл бұрын

+Daniel López You mean my assumption regarding the mole? Well, some parts in the game require money. Since the only effective way to earn money is defeating monsters, then it makes sense to keep a weak monster nearby for grinding purposes. Otherwise, if your party is not in peak performance, then challenging stronger beasts is not recommended.

@happy.time.boredom

4 жыл бұрын

@@e-mananimates2274 Interesting idea.

>Makes 3 earthbound vids >decides to make a banger 10 minute video on the mole playing rough >leaves >refuses to elaborate

@Aidan_B_Young

Жыл бұрын

To make things weirder, it says this channel was created in 2011, but all four videos were uploaded in the span of a month and a half in 2018.

Please become the Pannenkoek2012 of EarthBound.

@horesfan400

5 жыл бұрын

I volunteer to be the TJ ""Henry" of Chaz

@Electrosa

5 жыл бұрын

@@horesfan400 If that /is/ your real name.

@horesfan400

5 жыл бұрын

I meant I should be his sort of rival.

@Electrosa

5 жыл бұрын

That was the joke; in his Watch For Rolling Rocks video, Pannenkoek made an "if that really IS your real name" joke about TJ because of the suspicious quotes around "Henry".

@aestheticgamecube1936

5 жыл бұрын

SalThePiplup Build up exp for 12 hours

great video :D I always wondered about that mole. The joke with my friends was "That mole must have had one hell of a plan." since its brave enough to attack your team at that point.

@goatbone

5 жыл бұрын

*SPOILER* The mole was also contacted by someone from the future and was on his own mission to stop Giygas when he encountered some children in the desert. Both parties attacked, and sadly for the mole his adventure ended here.

Why does the mole exist? _unsightly things such as moles are common occurrences on the human skin, and should not be worried about_

@SegaDream131

3 жыл бұрын

Unsightly my ass....

this guy really said "imma drop a banger of an earthbound video" and just disappeared right after

@raid9913

3 жыл бұрын

Since its taking too long, there is only 1 conclusion left. It will DEFINETLY be an absolute banger!

Limitations and creative workarounds in older cart based games is something I love seeing picked apart, since it's such a fascinating topic. You did a great job breaking down the hows and whys of the surface game play, on top of the coding back end.

@MrOmegatronic

5 жыл бұрын

If you haven't seen it, then, you should look into how they got a voiced OP in _Tales of Phantasia_ . The SF/SNES actually _couldn't_ play it, so they just broke it up into dozens of tiny sound bites, and _reprogrammed the sound processor to stream audio from the ROM_ because hardware limitations are for chumps. They then went on to make one of the only... I think it was two games that needed special hardware in the cart because they were too big for the SNES/SF to handle, because limit breaking should never be limited to fictional characters.

The mole’s secret? 6.022x10^23

@bramnemeth565

5 жыл бұрын

Nice one.

@smolbrendan5978

5 жыл бұрын

This joke constantly makes me laugh.

@oofulele2182

5 жыл бұрын

Took me a bit to get it

@MorfsPrower

5 жыл бұрын

NEEEEEEEERD That was seriously a pretty good joke though, I loved it.

@Sherf...

5 жыл бұрын

This crippled me.

it pains me so much this youtuber dropped a single video of this high quality and hasn't been seen since... Wherever you are, I hope youre doing ok and doing what you love

@OctoberDoesArt

11 ай бұрын

Don't worry, he's been seen plenty! Chaz is a good friend of StephenPlays/StephenVlog and he pops up constantly. He works with Stephen and even Chuggaaconroy on some projects, and he also created the Earthbound Randomizer!

@Azazelea

11 ай бұрын

@@OctoberDoesArt THANK YOU I didn't know any of this!! While I'd love to see more videos from him I'm much happier knowing he's still doing the things that interest him ;u;

First we have to talk about parallel universes.

_how to get rid of moles?_ ... *MULTI BOTTLE ROCKET* (0_0 ) works every time.

@Fenyx_Birb

5 жыл бұрын

Multi bottle rocket is better than any attack 2000 so much damage

@SurmenianSoldier

4 жыл бұрын

@@Fenyx_Birb imo super bazooka is better. it has splash damage

I've always wondered about this, I always assumed it was just a running gag the developers made but your theory on it sounds pretty precise.

damn this is like some pannenkoek2012 shit right here I like it

@caroltaylor5861

5 жыл бұрын

Bitch Lasagna explanation?

@CybernikTheHedgehog

5 жыл бұрын

They both explain stuff about the code of video games.

@GewelReal

5 жыл бұрын

You can't press A only half!

@mastershack

5 жыл бұрын

Carol Taylor both go into code with extreme depth in nintendo games pre 2000’s to explain something that no one asked about in an entertaining fashion.

Well, who would've thought those Moles actually had a purpose? I thought the devs just forgot them or misplaced them. Great video, it was an interesting watch!

@spartangoku7610

4 жыл бұрын

J-D Thunder me too. I thought the mole was a glitch. Or maybe, they used the glitch to fix the glitch.

I think the Apple of Enlightenment is Apple Kid

@charbomber110

5 жыл бұрын

I think I heard somewhere that the apple of enlightenment was an ancient machine that predicted the future, and Gigue (Gigue? Gyigue???) took it apart to make it into the devil's machine.

@lampsshine3784

5 жыл бұрын

It’s giygue in Japan.

@SgtTwilight

5 жыл бұрын

@@The_Autism0 Giygue was an early translation of it. Older fans like me and I presume him grew up on the EBZ version of Mother so we're more used to the older, "bad" translations. Honesty I can't see his name as anything other than Giygue at this point.

@Dr0dd

5 жыл бұрын

The Apple of Enlightenment is explicitely called a prophecy-telling machine in the original Japanese, according to Legends of Localization.

Your theory sounds pretty solid. I noticed that the moles can also run away from you which means that although they weren't able to predict speed runners skipping the essential one, they perhaps didn't account for players who may possibly be overpowered at those points (although if the other moles were integrated fully this may have been picked up in playtesting.

@DudeTheMighty

5 жыл бұрын

Well, even with the moles running away from the player, it's likely that most players would run up behind it for an easy instant win, especially if they're grind-happy enough to be that over-leveled.

Chaz, if you’re still With us. Thank you and I hope you’re all right

this is legitimately one of my favorite videos on youtube of all time

This guy dropped a great video, then bounced. What a legend

The mole used play rough *Its super effective*

@jevilsmagikarpasianmagikar2265

5 жыл бұрын

Ryaquaza 1 pokemon reference

@wienerschnitzel1739

5 жыл бұрын

Ya think

@Saturn.argo.

5 жыл бұрын

Your ★Giratina profile pic over Ryaquaza name really bugs me

Best part: (9:33) "So while we are unlikely to ever have confirmation that our mole friend exists for this reason, there is pretty solid evidence that this little guy was specifically put here to belatedly bring the joy of dying of heat in the desert to us all. Thanks, Mole Playing Rough." * Said while giving a Multi Bottle Rocket to Jeff using the debug menu specifically to defeat the Mole Playing Rough *

I absolutely love the little tricks like this employed in older games

he's truly the third strongest

It's certainly not often that I learn something new when watching a video about Earthbound, but well done on this man! You earned another subscriber!

@PorkyMinch

Жыл бұрын

HOW IS THIS NOT THE NUMBER ONE COMMENT SINCE YOU ARE POPULAR WITH THE COMMUNTIY

This was interesting af

Mr. Resetti’s little brother Nintendo seems to have an obsession with secret moles Like the one on paper Mario

Really interesting video! I appreciate that you brought something new to Earthbound analysis and talked about something that I think I and other players had probably never thought about before! It's so cool to think that you could understand the game design backward by studying the methods it employed in the placement of the mole.

super interesting breakdown and very well made, great video dude! an awesome 1:00am watch lol

We’ll be in Onett soon. But seriously, I love that you’re making more EB content. This discovery is awesome!

I love videos like this. You have got to have some serious dedication to trawl through the code of a game just to work out why a mole attacks you in the desert. I really hope you make more videos like this.

Dude, this video was really good. I'd love to see more like this!

This is fascinating. I love this kind of KZread content. Thanks for making this!

Great digging into Mr. Mole Playing Rough! Also love how you celebrated him at the end of the vid!

"Thanks, Mole Playing Rough!" *MPR gets fucking obliterated by a multi bottle rocket* That's an odd way of thanking him.

oh hey this is a pretty cool video, can't wait to check out his other videos like this! ... oh, damn.

I just like the idea that it’s a gag that the mole playing rough just shows up no matter how outclassed he is

You did a really great job on this video!

I enjoyed this thoroughly, Chaz! Very interesting.

The need for your earthbound videos is massive.

Extremely well thought out and researched

I love this game and this video grabbed my attention instantly cause I figured it was just EarthBound goofiness so I didn't understand where 10 minutes of content could come from this. I was not expecting such an awesome, in-depth, and precisely explained video put together so well. Amazing job!

0:57 when he said, "To answer that question" I almost thought he was going to say, "we need to talk about parallel universes."

@tomyyoung2624

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, they are our wives.

I love this. Wow peeking behind the scenes a little bit. Awesome job!

Really enjoyed this video, super well made and informative! Would be really interested in seeing more videos on EarthBound minutiae.

Fascinating stuff, man! Very clever. Amazing what things people are still finding out.

This video is really good. I hope you can make more videos, man.

Thanks for being one of the few KZread's that covers earthbound. You channel deserves more love!

I honestly didn't expect a literal answer to the question when I clicked this video. Very well done.

one of the best vids on the whole site, if you still around i need more of this

Interesting and actually easy to follow. One of my favorite games. Well done.

Great video. Your work is impeccable, and you've won me with evidence and reason. Really well done.

Love finding new bits of info on my favourite game. Great video

Man you explain better than anyone I've ever heard good job! Love your videos!

Fainting is the ultimate status effect in Pokemon has never rang clearer

I hope you make more videos. You have a great voice, a great style, and the video was super interesting.

I have legit been wondering about this for years. Thanks for shining some light on the matter!

Believe it or not, this kind of game engine coding is still prevalent in today's modern gaming, and some games still use these kinds of tricks to get games to behave a certain way. World of Warcraft, 'classic' specifically, used a similar technique to trigger quest completion. Almost every single quest completion trigger was actually dependent on the death of a single invisible rabbit. This rabbit could not be seen, targeted, and had no ability to move, nor did it make any sounds when it died. This was the mechanism used because there was only two triggers to determine the completion (or progression) of a quest: item acquisition (picking something up), or the death of something. This functionality worked well when dealing with things like kill quests or fetch quests, but what about escort quests? Or "put X item in Y location"? Invisible rabbits worked as the triggers for these things, an escorted NPC's proximity to the rabbit would kill the rabbit, thus making the trigger for the quest completion to trigger (as it quantifies as the 'kill' needed to make the quest complete), and the player would get the notification in their quest log that they'd completed the escort quest. Another interesting purpose these rabbits have is that they are often used as spell casters in order to make certain raid boss encounters work, or work as a kind of controlled particle effect within a boss encounter to make the fights more flashy. At any rate, I find this kind of stuff very interesting, and very much enjoyed the video!

@wariolandgoldpiramid

5 жыл бұрын

interesting

Great video. Well researched, and well spoken. I hope to see more content like this.

Fascinating, thank you for your hard work. I'm always impressed about how much we continue to learn about this game.

A very cool analysis, thanks for the video.

very good video! i'd love to see more like it

This is fing facinating. Thank you Chaz!

Excellent video! Very informative and entertaining!

It's 2019, and I'm learning new stuff about a game I've been playing since 1995. Great video.

this channel's going to be big. keep it up man

This is actually so interesting, great research and video!

Don't know why this was in my recommended but glad I was! Good shit bro!

That was fascinating. Great sleuthing, sir!

this video seemed to answer all the questions about the little guy. You really dove deep to find out! XD

Please make more videos like this. Really cool love your understanding of this.

What a great video. Thank you for doing all this work!

this is a great video, i would love to see more content like this from you. :)

Nice video man very succinct and I'd say your theory is spot on makes complete sense

This is a great little resource of reference to have on hand for anyone developing a new game for a retro platform.

Your voice is perfect for these videos. Keep it up.

love the science behind this!!!! great video brother

Great content. This is my favorite game, I love finding new ways to appreciate it.

Oh that's it, I definitely need to look into how to decompile SNES games.

Thanks for the interesting video Chaz

This video is very good and you have a nice voice. You need to make more videos like this. Its very interesting and i hope to see more of you in the future

ok for real you need to make more videos like these. It's so cool to see videos showing off code and bugs.

Great video, Chaz. :D

Hey man if you make anymore of these I'll def watch.

Great video, I never thought of this before! It's so weird but funny to know that this unassuming enemy actually served a purpose.